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Rep. Steve King Says a Victory Over Obama is a Victory for God
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Rep. Steve King Says a Victory Over Obama is a Victory for God was written by Hrafnkell Haraldsson for PoliticusUSA.
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KatzKids
Sep. 16th, 2012 at 7:28 am
Great post Hraf! Again, the projection from our very own religious extremists. Everything they claim about the Muslims is a mirror image of themselves.
They completely ignore the fact that Muslims worship the same Abrahamic God the AmeriTaliban claims as their own. The God they call Satan is their own.
They choose to ignore Muslims revere & follow Jesus’s “love thy neighbor” mandates. He is an honored, respected and important Prophet of theirs too. They not only don’t worship idols, they don’t even allow pictorial representations of Mohammed as they are considered disrespectful in the extreme, which is what the outrage against the movie trailer is all about. And the violence is coming from their extremists not from the majority of the Muslims.
American (traitors) religious extremists have deliberately initiated the violence for the benefit of trying to get Romney elected and are not one bit dissatisfied by the results. The death of our citizens is just allowable collateral damage to them. Romney’s smirks & obvious joy at his press conference tell the true story. The GOPTP Rovian tactics have again caused the deaths of American citizens, just as the Terry Jones & our own RW soldiers Quaran burnings have.
The fact that Romney’s shameful performance at his “triumphant” press conferences brought universal shame, deters them not a bit. They prove they will literally do anything under the sun to get back in power, & bring on their “Rapture.” Hate is their name & destruction is their game.
Thank you Hraf!
Mike Lane
Sep. 16th, 2012 at 10:54 am
Just a note, the Muslim Allah is not the same god that Christians worship. The Quran states that Allah didn’t have a son. Also, Allah was a specific god (not Jehovah) that the prophet Mohammed directed Muslims to worship.
Sandra
Sep. 16th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Your post then would indicate that Jews do not worship the same God as we Chrisitans do since Jews do not believe in Jesus Christ being their Messiah and have no truck with him. Christianity and Islam are based on Judiasm and that`s a fact. Islam/Muslims recognize Jesus Christ as a Prophet and think highly of him as Christians do. Jesus Christ, the Prophet is mentioned throughout the Koran. The RW pseudo christians in American more resemble the Talibans as both wings use their religion as an excuse to fermet intolerance and hatred and wars. Neither (hate) group speaks for their religion or true believers and practioners of their respective faith.
harris stein
Sep. 16th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
Your reply to the comment by KatzKids is meaningless. Anyone thinking that god is a hairy old white man who lives in the sky needs to think again about what god is. That goes mostly for Jews, Christians, and Muslims who believe that their group’s hairy old white man is more powerful than the other group’s hairy old white man.
I would hope that in the 21st Century when the sky has been proven to go on forever, that the home of god cannot be pinpointed with any certainty by any organized religious group. In fact, if American Exceptionalism wasn’t an excuse for Christians of this nation to use the First Amendment to denigrate other peoples beliefs we wouldn’t be mourning the killing of Americans in Lybia.
W Ford
Sep. 16th, 2012 at 11:21 pm
Yes, actually, they do. Judaism, Islam, and Christianity all worship the god of Abraham. Read the later parts of Exodus, and Deuteronomy and Leviticus, and you will find the laws that form Sharia.
Janicot
Sep. 17th, 2012 at 10:39 am
You’re sadly misinformed, Mike. The Hebrew word “El” (“God”), the Aramaic word “El’aha” (“God”) and the Arabic word “I’lah” (“God”) plus about twenty other nearly identical Semitic language root words simply means “God”, it only refers to one specific god if one happens to believe in only one specific god. BTW if you’re an observant Christian worshipping “Elohim” you should be informed that the term is plural, you’re inadvertently calling upon a pantheon of gods the Hebrews worshipped before the turned monotheist.
Diane
Sep. 16th, 2012 at 7:45 am
Interesting that today’s Pope does not support a preemptive war.
I don’t know why today’s republicans are always looking backwards. They never look forward and appear to be afraid to use the brains that God gave them. They are afraid of everything and nothing satisfies them unless it is 100% what they want.
This country will never move forward with republicans. The rest of the world is moving forward and they want to take us back?
They want to lift this country up to destroy it?
I will never understand what goes on in a republican mind.
SinghX
Sep. 16th, 2012 at 8:02 am
“… but when did the presidential election turn into a religious crusade?”
Well, as you point out, this is nothing new. In this country, however our “crusader” history that goes back to the era after the civil war when mostly southern fundamentalist (that’s what the used to always call themselves before Billy Graham changed it to “evangelical christian”) decided to turn it’s back on the “new world”–post civil war culture. (FYI–take a look at the Christian Temperance Movements platform).
The inroads these traitors have made since the 70′s IS our current history. We, out of our OWN ignorance, have ignored our OWN history of religious zealots and chosen to see them in our OWN “liberal”, brother’s keeper image; we choose to see them as normal citizens expressing their right to worship and speak their mind, even if we disagreed…no one wanted(s) to deal with the facts; they have opened up large pockets of totalitarianism within certain physical geographic areas of the country…and now, we’re sort of “bleeding” within from their cancerous growth on our culture and society.
The Branch Dravidian’s were our last “warning shot”–I know many things were done after the fact (via the Clinton admin), but, it was all kept hush-hush as to how many groups were out there, how many Marshals went to various militant christian cult communities and kept the lid on them (peace)…it should have been our moment for a national conversation etc, but…
“WE” failed ourselves because the general citizenry didn’t want to deal with them or hear about the enormous growth of “cults” of militant Christians (especially during Bush I) and now, we “bleed” metaphorically as they take to their sabras…
SinghX
Sep. 16th, 2012 at 8:20 am
I want to add that the cameras were on the Koresh compound for 51 days (this is NOT an open invite to rehash that incident)…And how many times/days have we watched and listened about the children in various polygamist compounds being removed?…How many reality shows do we have to watch about the Dugger cult?…How many books have to be written by former members of these cult communities about their aberrant, pervasive, dominance over human beings… how many have to appear on the shelves before we stop coddling them?
Steve King?! Why, he’s is the tip of the ice berg; he’s just one of many…
Reynardine
Sep. 16th, 2012 at 8:17 am
You recall what they did to the Dixie Chicks just for disagreeing with Bush’s war? You remember the rivers of French wine being poured down the gutters? Yet if it’s not *their* President, they dare talk like this. *Their* First Amendment freedoms are sacrosanct, just like *their* Second Amendment freedoms. I hope to Hell there are agents in that gathering, because something tells me if the election doesn’t go *their* way, they will not go gently into that good night.
j
Sep. 16th, 2012 at 8:23 am
I worry about another form of religion, Romney had a fundraiser in Israel and was effectively bought and paid for, and is pushing for a war with Iran, Bibi is now going to be on MTP pushing for war with Iran, has a foreign country ever in history tried to buy our government to fight a war that we the people do not want. We are tired of repubs wars, we have lost enough of our young men in wars already and we are deeply in debt for them, why on earth do we give aid to Israel – already a rich country where people have health care and live well! Romney prefers our poor people die and our poor children starve, but there is always money for war!
Shiva (Moderator)
Sep. 16th, 2012 at 9:42 am
Precisely why I think Bibi is behind the revolts in the ME at this time. All of them just pop up at thew same time Bibi is screaming at Obama to attack Iran? No way is this coincidence
Reynardine
Sep. 16th, 2012 at 11:51 am
I think you guys would do well to lay off the Eternal Jew meme, and your coyness about it isn’t cute. Netenyahu is not even the Eternal Israeli. How’d you like the world thinking we were all eternally summed up by George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld?
Sandra
Sep. 16th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Huh? Who said anything about Bibbi being an eternal jew? People are just wondering what part he played in what’s happening in the Middle East. It’s a bit convenient that after the current chaos, he was on Dick Gregory’s (Republican wing nut) show to criticize PO and what’s occurring.
This man is dangerous and arrogant, he’s not popular in Israel from what I’ve read and the economy is not doing too well either, so he’s running around demanding ‘war’ to boost his #s and popularity.
I say he should go ‘f’ himself. He has no right dictate to any country but his own. Israelis elected him, let them deal with him. He’s a war monger just like Sharon.
Reynardine
Sep. 16th, 2012 at 8:24 am
It occurred to me that someone from that retinue could assassinate either him or someone of equal prominence, and then raise hue and cry that the Kenyan anticolonial cultural Marxist and his cabal of gay Mooslin international World Jews did it. The victim would be so much collateral damage.
I have no reason for thinking this. I was awakened by dark by my hound and my rooster and may be badly slept out. However, I think it is within the capacities of some of the people there.
Reynardine
Sep. 16th, 2012 at 8:27 am
By “him’, I meant King, not Romney. Romney, I am convinced, is as safe as if he were in the Tabernacle, and will be unless he is inaugurated.
serg
Sep. 16th, 2012 at 9:13 am
yeah well deus es machina
is an awsome game so bamm
damn psycho
Shiva (Moderator)
Sep. 16th, 2012 at 9:28 am
Make no mistake, these idiots see the religious fervor of the muslim and want it here. It MUST be here in order for these jackboots to destroy the muslim and let their religion run our lives.
There is only one hope and that is that the people of this country separate their religion from their government.
Of course we know the politicians are using the religion for their own ends, but the religion will be the stronger. The forays they ahve made into our military will see to that
Here is something from our precious mr king
www.govtrack.us/congress/...
chespen
Sep. 16th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Ditto to all the Katzkids said. I have been thinking the same thing all week. I think the press should start referring to these self proclaimed Christians as Christianists as they do not follow the teaching of Christ.I am very afraid for the world as your election this fall could still be stolen and Darth Vader will be in charge again.
Jahna
Sep. 16th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Stevens misses the entire doctrine of Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ offered Himself through God, His Father, to humanity. Jesus was not a dictator, who would force Himself on anyone. His message was and is to choose Him, beieve in Him and follow Him to receive the blessing of eternal life. His gift is still available, but it is one of choice, not force. The Republican agenda distorts the message of Jesus Christ. Theirs is not an agenda of Jesus Christ. Rather, it’s an agenda of self and pride, both of which we are to deny when we choose to follow Jesus Christ.
A Walkaway
Sep. 17th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Why would God condemn ANYONE to hell? What about people who never heard the Gospel, or worse, got treated as so many have been – like filth by the “Good Christians”? I know too many who reject Christianity altogether because of the harm done to their spirit by the “Good Christians”. Shoot, there are many times I wish I could stop being Christian, because of the things they did to me.
The concept of sending people to hell is a power-play addition. “Believe as we do, or go to Hell for eternity!!!” It’s abusive and ignores reality.
Uzume
Sep. 16th, 2012 at 10:29 am
That’s just so funny. You know when someone is desperately scrambling in the mud for a soundbite when they start using 13th century Europe reasoning. Hilarious!
SarCanz
Sep. 16th, 2012 at 11:30 am
I happened to hear the end of King’s speech on C-Span Radio. Obviously all that stuff about the pillars and the shining city was offensive nonsense. However, the fun part of listening to it was that Mitt Romney’s recorded speech to the group came on immediately after king finished. And the contrast between the two speeches was NOT good for Romney.
King may be wrong-headed, but he is a much better speaker than Romney; had a better written speech (content aside, the bit about the pillars was well written & used the metaphore well); and King sounds like he believes what he is saying and cares deeply.
Poor Mittster sounded, as usual, like a robot calmly saying whatever his handlers thought was appropriate to the situation. Even listening on radio, one could imagine the glum faces of a crowd that had been enthralled and cheering during King’s speech. One could almost hear how let down they were.
The US has a long history of movements of religious fanatics. Ironically, this is probably because we have so much religious freedom. (Europeans tend to be much more leery of mixing government and religion, because they have more actual experience with the problems it causes.) Given the changing demographics of the US, there is good reason to think that this movement will fade too. (They’ve already basically lost on gay rights, in large part due to the experience & values of younger Americans.)
However, I don’t think it will fade until the Republican Party suffers one/more resounding defeats at the polls. Romney is such a pathetic candidate, and as voters learn more about Ryan’s plans for Social Security he’ll become more & more unpopular. So it is quite likely that this year, we may see the Republicans lose so badly that they might finally come to their senses and return to being the responsible party that they used to be.
labman57
Sep. 16th, 2012 at 11:54 am
And the sanctimonious socially-regressive conservative movement known as the Christian Taliban rolls right along.
This whole notion of God rooting for the Republican Party will not sit well with most Americans — the fundamental concept of God as a meddling, micromanaging manipulator who chooses sides in politics is as absurd as the claim that God enables a specific athletic team to win a championship.
Joshua Kricker
Sep. 16th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Seriously? I’m sure “God” told that to King personally.
Brigita Petrutis
Sep. 16th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Loved SingX’s literal bleeding heart liberal metaphor. The separation will come back, and there will be (should be!) some prosecution against those churches that have engaged in politics, donated to politicians, engaged in hate-speech, and otherwise violated the law in regards to their non-profit status. Don’t see this happening before the election, though. Then maybe the cults will have less effect, be less attractive a vehicle for the cult leaders, and hopefully, less preachers elected to Congress. They are getting way too much exposure in the wrong setting. O/B will get it done legitimately. If R/R get in, more police-state action via erosion of everone’s civil rights will take place.
Brigita Petrutis
Sep. 16th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Oops, SinghX — sorry.
Inez
Sep. 16th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Is the world, as a whole going to engage in a religious war? Killing of the infidels , does that mean to kill innocent peace makers? If we engage in violence in the name of religion, we certainly are going backwards. The Crusaders, it appears, have risen. I am against all wars; I respect the peacemakers, not the agitators, nor those who seek to destroy this wondrous world in which we should all share in its’bountifulness….I wih my childrens’ children and their children peace on earth. What does all of this violence get us? Death of the innocent at the hands of the selfish! AMEN
D. W. Skinner
Sep. 16th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
he’s absolutely right…. God will take care of this for the republicans… they don’t even have to vote… he will MIRACLE Mitt Romney into the White House.
V
Sep. 17th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
This election is a fight between two sides of the same COIN and that money is totally USELESS!!!!! – …hmmm..unless those who govern do this:
1.
Not only HELP Poor, But EDUCATE poor how to not hate Rich people, but pay respect to those who earned it( by being creative with their money is the best pay back)
2.
HELP Rich to Realize that GIVING = RECEIVING. When they share their blessings among others they gain good energy ( rich want to invest their money into something valuable )
3.
NOT excuse illegals ( never excusing them from taxes when they earn money illegally) – this is sigh of weak governing, just like weak parents spoil their kids – bad parenting.
4.
Government shoudl work for its People not for the Money. They shoudl TEACH by an EXAMPLE – live Modestly, live on a BUDGET, tide their belts together with a middle class…and Be THE CHANGE Themselves FIRST!!!
Americans are FREE to believe in God as well to “believe” in no religion. So long we live in dignity and NON violence all is well. At the end of the day we all will answer only to the Universe (Creative Truth ) – not to the government, or those claiming to speak for it or for God.
Thank you.
Shiva (Moderator)
Sep. 17th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
Your #1 is a bit misleading. The poor dont hate the rich. The poor pay the full amount of taxes they are required to pay. The rich do not. This starts at around $75,000. Thats what the flap is about. Not the poor hating the rich
BeneGesserit
Sep. 20th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
My question is “How can anyone think that the goal of Islam is NOT to kill every last Christian and Jew?”
I’m thankful we still have a precious few politicians willing to tell the truth about an enemy who is bend on killing me or dying trying. When will the western world stop trying to appease Islam, the wife-beating husband of the world?