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Republicans Watch Their Harry Reid is a Liar Strategy Crash and Burn
Republicans are learning the hard way that calling Harry Reid a liar is a strategy that is blowing up in their faces.
Our adventure begins with Sen. Lindsey Graham repeating the GOP talking point that Harry Reid is a liar.
Video from CNN:
Transcript from CNN:
CROWLEY: I need a two-word answer from you, and that is what vice presidential pick would best help Mitt Romney?
GRAHAM: You know, I think Pawlenty and Portman are in the hunt. One last thing. You didn’t ask me about Harry Reid. I’ve been around this town for a while. I actually like Harry. But what he did on the floor of the Senate is so out of bounds. I think he’s lying about his statement of knowing something about Romney. So this is what’s wrong with America–
CROWLEY: That’s pretty stiff. You think–
(CROSSTALK)
CROWLEY: — the leader of the Senate is lying?
GRAHAM: Yes, I do. I really do. I think he has created an issue here. I think he’s making things up. And at a time when the country is just about to fall apart. Cyber security. There is a bipartisan desire to do this. There’s plenty of blame to go around. But, candy, we’re running out of time as a nation. Let’s start talking about the real issues that matter to real people. And I just can’t let that pass. I just cannot believe that the majority leader of the United States Senate would take the floor twice, make accusations that are absolutely unfounded, in my view, and quite frankly making things up to divert the campaign away from the real issues.
CROWLEY: Senator Lindsey Graham, I wish we had more time. I’ve got to run. Thank you so much.
Sen. Graham and the rest of the Republican Party didn’t know it, but their strategy was about to backfire. After Graham’s segment, the Obama campaign’s Robert Gibbs hit CNN and made the Republicans pay.
Video:
Transcript from CNN:
CROWLEY: Let us start out with Harry Reid. You heard Senator Lindsey Graham saying he thinks Reid is lying, that he is making this up, when he gets on the Senate floor and Senator Reid says, I’ve been told that Mitt Romney has not paid taxes for 10 years.
I spoke to a Democrat yesterday who said — who’s in touch with the Obama re-elect in Chicago, who said, if Chicago wanted Reid to stop, he would stop, but Chicago doesn’t want him to. Are you just as happy to have him out here saying these things?
GIBBS: Look, I think it’s important that we know the financial backgrounds of candidates. You saw Lindsey Graham, I think appropriately, talk about the role that tax loopholes play in our tax code and how much it costs average taxpayers. We’re going to have a pretty big debate about tax reform in the next coming months. And we have to know what’s in people’s tax returns and what they are getting the benefit for.
Candy, if Mitt Romney…
CROWLEY: But he — but Mitt Romney didn’t make the loopholes. Let’s make that clear. And no one is saying he did anything wrong.
GIBBS: Well, we don’t — we don’t know that, Candy.
CROWLEY: You don’t know it, but…
GIBBS: No, we know this…
CROWLEY: Let’s go back to the…
GIBBS: No, no, let me…
(CROSSTALK)
GIBBS: Sure.
CROWLEY: … which is, do you think Harry Reid…
GIBBS: We do that every — we do know, in the one tax return that he did put out, we found out he had a Swiss bank account that wasn’t on his financial disclosure, OK?
So we do know that he has used not releasing his tax returns to hide where his money is.
But let’s be honest, Candy.
CROWLEY: But it wasn’t illegal. He wasn’t hiding it. He put it out, right?
GIBBS: He….
(CROSSTALK)
GIBBS: Again, after the tax return came out, he updated his financial disclosure to let the world know he had a bank account in Switzerland.
CROWLEY: But you know where I’m going with this, because you all want to couch it as he’s hiding something really terrible; he probably cheated on his taxes; he didn’t pay taxes; you pay too many taxes. But you have the leader of the Democratic Party in the Senate saying that Mitt Romney didn’t pay any taxes, while you have Mitt Romney saying, “Yes, I did.”
GIBBS: It’s a time-honored tradition that presidential candidates release their tax returns, right? And the standard was set by Mitt Romney’s own father, who said don’t put out one or two years because those could end up being an anomaly, and he put out, I think, somewhere around 12 years. Barack Obama has put out something…
CROWLEY: A lot of folks since then haven’t put out 12 years, but…
GIBBS: But Mitt Romney gave John McCain 23 years of tax returns in order to be the tryout for vice president where John McCain picked Sarah Palin. If 23 years is good enough to show John McCain so Mitt Romney can be vice president of the United States? Candy, we could put all this stuff to rest tomorrow. Mitt Romney can go to Kinko’s; he can photocopy his tax returns. There are several hundred pages. He could hand them out to people like CNN; he could hand them out to reporters all over the country. And, you know what, we wouldn’t talk about this tomorrow. We wouldn’t say is he paying taxes; what’s he paying. The whole world would know exactly what loopholes he’s taking advantage of…
CROWLEY: Right, to the propriety — to the propriety of the leader of the Democrats in the Senate accusing, based on a source, the Republican — presumed Republican nominee of not paying any taxes for 10 years — is that something that Chicago has encouraged? Do you want him to stop?
GIBBS: Look…(LAUGHTER)
… let’s be clear. I don’t think anybody controls Harry Reid.
CROWLEY: But if you asked him to stop, he would?
GIBBS: You know, again, put the tax returns out. Put this whole thing to rest.
Candy, have you ever — have you ever seen anybody go to such great lengths to not put something out? And when you generally don’t put something out, isn’t it because you’re generally hiding something? Again…
(CROSSTALK)
CROWLEY: … he might think it’s private. But in the end…
(CROSSTALK)
CROWLEY: The visual of Mitt Romney doing his tax cuts (sic) at Kinko’s is sort of throwing me, but…
GIBBS: I’ll — I’ll send him the nickels, and — I think it’s a nickel a page, and we can — but here’s the thing.
CROWLEY: You will not tell Harry Reid to stop?
GIBBS: I would tell Mitt Romney, if he wants — if he wants all this debate to go away — and let’s be clear. Harry Reid isn’t the one who’s made this debate. Mitt Romney has brought this to the fore. This has been something that has been talked about well back into the Republican primaries.
We did an interview on the foreign trip where ABC said, have you paid — what’s the tax rate? “Have you paid a lower tax rate than what you released?” And do you know what Mitt Romney’s answer was? “I’ll go back and check.”
Candy, he’s not at Kinko’s making photocopies. He’s not — he doesn’t have any intention of checking. He has gone through — I’ve never seen anybody jump through more hoops to say, A, that somebody is lying but also not put out a document that would prove what the real truth is.
CROWLEY: OK. So Chicago is not going to tell Harry Reid to stop. Let me move you on.
Lindsey Graham spent 60 seconds calling Harry Reid a liar. Robert Gibbs spent 4:20 answering Candy Crowley’s questions about Harry Reid by talking about Mitt Romney’s foreign bank accounts and his tax returns.
Every time that Republicans call Harry Reid a liar, they are keeping Mitt Romney’s refusal to release his tax returns in the news. The size of the transcripts for Graham and Gibbs tell the story.
Republicans are actually making things worse for Mitt Romney by calling Harry Reid a liar. When Republicans talk about Harry Reid, they are also talking about Romney’s tax returns, and Mitt Romney has put his party in a no win position.
There are a dozen different ways that Republicans could address Reid’s accusations, and they have chosen the worst option. The liar, liar pants on fire strategy is only effective if it can be proven that Reid is lying. Since Romney won’t provide the proof, Republicans have given the Democrats the gift of an endless loop of conversation about Romney’s tax returns.
After Lindsey Graham’s attack backfired so badly, you would think maybe the Republican Party would learn that calling Harry Reid a liar is a really, really bad idea.
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Ronc99
Aug. 6th, 2012 at 12:12 am
Notice that Candy Crowley did the GOP talking points for Mitt Romney and the GOP. She ALWAYS does. I despise that Wall St hack!!! How does someone of her ilk get a Sunday talk show, anyway? By kissing Wall Street butt. That’s how! Sick of it!!!!!!!!
NativeSonKY
Aug. 6th, 2012 at 12:41 am
She always skews the conversation and interjects her OPINION on EVERY interviw; that’s why I won’t even watch them on CNN, but wait until they are scrutinized and discussed and diseccted.
Hsquared
Aug. 6th, 2012 at 7:46 am
Notice how she keeps referring to “Chicago”, as if she’s talking about a crime syndicate. “Will Chicago ask him to stop?” “Is this something that Chicago has encouraged?”
Sally
Aug. 6th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Exactly…keep that “Chicago thug” meme going for Fox. Keep that Bill Ayres meme goiung so Palin can throw it out there again. Don’t talk abgout the issue, just recite the GOP fear memes. Really sickening. Th eonly thing missing was her asking about Obama’s transcripts or ‘admission papers’ as if he were a dog trying to get into Westminster. Or a horse under quarantine for the Olympics?
Frank Rommey
Aug. 6th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
The counter strategy should be “did Salt Lake approve of it? or, did he asked Salt Lake before he refused?”
As a matter of a fact, somebody I know, with connections to the LDS, was emphatic, “the problem is with the money given either way between the LDS and Mitt, which shows up in the returns… not with the earnings or taxes paid by Mitt.” That person wouldn’t be in the position of coming forward herself without facing immediate harm.
ibwilliamsi
Aug. 6th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
“Did Salt Lake approve of that?”
I can’t tell you how much I like this idea.
jlt
Aug. 6th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Crowley is the most repugnant of panderers..Hiding behind feminine wiles that she has never had !
Seems romney has tax problems in the EU too!
www.bloomberg.com/news/20...
susanai
Aug. 7th, 2012 at 12:00 am
How do any of these ‘hacks’ get a Sunday show? I have stopped watching – just talking points from interviewee and interviewer.
majii
Aug. 6th, 2012 at 12:14 am
Name calling is all they have left, Jason. Romney has ignored the pleas of over 20 of his own party members to release more tax returns. I imagine that it’s very frustrating to them that he’d rather hold onto his tax records and allow his campaign to flounder because of his arrogance and stupidity. It’s a really stupid move when every question a candidate is asked is responded to by avoiding answering the question. I think Romney doesn’t explain the details of his policies because he can’t. He’s knowing he’s trying to blow smoke up our bums, and I believe it is why it’s so hard to get an answer from him on any subject.
robyn ryan
Aug. 6th, 2012 at 12:38 am
These people are sooooo stupid.
Mr. Reid’s next pronouncement should be ‘I heard Mr. Romney has agreed to stop beating his wife.’
Hilarity ensues…..
Cha
Aug. 6th, 2012 at 1:12 am
I’m thinking Harry should say that he’s heard Romney is going to release his tax returns for 10 years and we’ll see who the “liar” is. :)
And, then romney and his surrogates can call Harry a “liar” again because willard is NOT going to release his tax returns under any circumstances..read “they’re too damn incriminating”. Brwawawawaaaa
www.democraticunderground...
Frank Rommey
Aug. 6th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Stop putting the cart before the horse. The statement should say: “Mrs. Romney pledged to stop beating her husband.”
Dan Skinner
Aug. 6th, 2012 at 3:01 am
Ingenious… Just ingenious. I love every minute they do this to Romney…. the man should have never ran for the office..period.
Sally
Aug. 6th, 2012 at 9:15 am
What’s hilarious is that this is what the GOP does all the time, and the one time Dems turn the table on them, they are just flabbergasted that anyone would do something so “Chicago.” Welcome to the new Democratic Party, Reince. We are mad and we aren’t going to take it any more. This is our country too!
diz
Aug. 6th, 2012 at 4:14 am
Gibbs should have asked Crowley for copies of the GOP/TP cease/desist memos sent to Brewer, Bachmann, Cantor, West, Jindal, King as well as surrogates Limbaugh, Palin, Faux News etc to use as a ‘model’ for drafting the little memo to Chicago she believes is his due.
Constantlyconfused
Aug. 6th, 2012 at 5:55 am
Have you noticed that for all the Republicans saying that Harry Reid is a liar, John McCain is not and he is the one person we know has seen Romney’s tax returns. It could be that he knows Reid is not lying.
Reynardine
Aug. 6th, 2012 at 7:25 am
What if he’s the source?
Sally
Aug. 6th, 2012 at 9:16 am
Love that!!!
Shiva (Moderator)
Aug. 6th, 2012 at 7:06 am
Its ok if they want to call Harry a liar. I just watched Mittens on TV saying once again for the 1000th time saying Obama said he would keep unemployment below 8% so anything Reid is doing is nothing compared to what Romney does every day. Where is Lindsay on that one?
CNN has edited out the Sana Bash report that she has collaborating evidence. Why didnt Crowley present that? Its pertinent
Gilbert Okoye
Aug. 6th, 2012 at 7:29 am
Mitt, are you serious with the run for the highest office in the land in the USA? Even if th tax returns were not exactly what they should be, he should have releaed them, why? because of something called transparency. People like those who are transparent, not dodgy.Mitt, even in the third world, the people cannot put up with your intrasigence.
megisi
Aug. 6th, 2012 at 7:45 am
I was struck by Graham saying this: “at a time when the country is just about to fall apart,” then following it by suggesting that some sort of legislative approach to “America’s problems” is imminent or even possible. What a prevaricating little weasel.
j
Aug. 6th, 2012 at 8:13 am
I hope everyone has read the Bloomberg story about how Mittens is not welcome in Italy because of a dirty deal he did there and funneled about a billion in profits through Luxembourg!
Sally
Aug. 6th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Oh good. We have a former Pres and Vp who can’t leave the US or they will be arrested for war crimes, and a wannabe who isn’t welcome in Italy because of dirty dealings. The GOP is so proud.
A Walkaway
Aug. 6th, 2012 at 11:25 am
The funny part is how this is playing out in the local paper. It doesn’t show Romney as being in trouble… in fact, the way the article I read sounded, it was like Reid was in trouble or at least catching flack from the Republicans.
I also discovered that while our local paper is very conservative and has a conservative slant on most of the reporting, at the same time compared to at least one other local paper (in the region), it is very liberal.
The “Reid is a liar” meme, sadly, seems to be playing well for the dominionists and conservative people.
Donna K. Derry
Aug. 6th, 2012 at 11:37 am
I agree with all the comments posted. People are
smarter than the GOP and Romney give them credit
for. Romney is definitely trying to cover something up on his tax returns. Is it possible that he did not report all his income and therefore did not pay all the taxes he should have?
He seems to think that because he has paid a lot in
taxes that is good enough. But I think he is far richer than has been reported and not all of his income has been taxed.
KatzKids
Aug. 6th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
I had a self-proclaimed Republican respond to one of my comments on another blog, saying that I was wrong, Republicans don’t like Romney, (I hadn’t said they did) They really all want Jeb Bush. I refrained from answering – with difficulty. :-)
It’s amazing how fast you can shut up a winger when they start in about Reid lying. Exactly as you said Jason, when I respond “that’s not a problem if you want to prove it. Just tell Romney to release his returns to prove he really does pay “lots & lots” of taxes like he says he did.” Crickets…. They are beyond ignorant – even the supposed “brains” of the party. If it weren’t so maddening, it would be funny.
majii
Aug. 6th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
I’ve noticed that as this tax return issue has played out, KatzKids, conservatives are not as visible on the internet on liberal-leaning blogs the way they had been earlier this year. I’m thinking they know deep down inside that Romney is a dishonest, incompetent, candidate. It’s similar to the way that none of them seem to know GWB today. His name is never mentioned. They know they made a mistake in electing GWB, but they’re not honest enough to admit it. It’s the same thing with Romney. Many of them had high hopes for Romney and were thinking that his wealth would somehow make the majority of Americans like him. It doesn’t seem to be working, and I don’t think they know what to say at this point. Even my conservative friends on FB have gone eerily silent as more and more evidence emerges that shows Romney is an empty suit.
sam
Aug. 6th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Who is this nasty witch? I don’t want to see her anymore.
GO GET HIM Democrats! Don’t let this go!
Scott
Aug. 7th, 2012 at 7:11 am
There are two ways to end this debacle. You all know those two ways. But for those who remain brain dead, here they are:
1. Interview John McCain and demand he answer the question. He has Willard’s tax returns yet refused to choose Willard as his VP.
2. Demand that Willard release them to the public.
barry buchanan
Aug. 9th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
You are so right Scott. Although, I personally find it hard to believe that Rmoney didn’t pay taxes for ten years, maybe it is true and that would play well for my side. While I am not a fan of most of the Right, I respect McCain. If McCain would come out and say, Rmoney pain taxes I would believe him. I still want to see the returns either way. While I doubt they will show zero taxes paid, I believe it’ll show the tax rate embarrasingly low. We should all be able to afford the accounts Romney must have. I bet whatever he paid it is all legal, sleazy but legal. ;)