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Romney Silences Teacher at Round Table: ‘I Didn’t Ask You a Question’
Apparently for Romney, the idea of a round table to discuss education doesn’t involve hearing from the experts gathered.
Cheryl, a teacher from Colorado, says when she attempted to give Romney a few of her ideas, he silenced her by saying, “I didn’t ask you a question.”
Watch the video from Obama for America Colorado here:
Cheryl shares:
“He said, ‘…I understand there’s a teacher here today, which one of you is the teacher?’ So I raised my hand thinking that’s a good thing; he’s interested in education. But it wasn’t a good thing.”
“I felt like his view was a little old-fashioned and I was surprised by it. He went on to kind of lecture me about schools and how bad they are. He talked bad about the teacher’s union. He was talking about the importance of private schools and voucher systems.”
“At one point, I said to him, ‘I have an answer for that.’ And he said, ‘I didn’t ask you a question.’
You People have been warned. The manager is in the house, and he doesn’t take input from the generals.
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119 Responses to Romney Silences Teacher at Round Table: ‘I Didn’t Ask You a Question’
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Nefer
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 10:18 am
This is a perfect example of why this whole idea that people who have been business owners or CEOs would make the best president is a terrible one.
We the people will be employing Romney were we to “hire” him by electing him. He would work for us.
But it is clear that his concept of a Presidency is that of a CEO; he makes the decisions and the little people don’t have a say at all.
Stephanie Kuebler
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Totally agree with you Nefer, the idea that I am totally in charge and I don’t have to listen to “you people” is just not the way someone who is “hired” by the American people ought to be thinking.
froggyalley
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 2:48 pm
It’s not the way anyone who expects to run a successful company should be thinking either. You surround yourself with the best people you can hire, compensate them well for what they know, and listen to them. Anyone can run a company into the ground, that’s easy.
Robert Chapman
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 4:30 pm
I recently read an account of US Army General & Secretary of State George C. Marshall’s way of conducting a staff meeting.
Gen. Marshall demanded that the staff voice all their objections to whatever plans he put forward, “Otherwise, ” Marshall said, “I would not know what I did wrong.”
Dan
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Great explanation..
Amy
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 8:01 pm
He stated I did not ask a question, I have heard many teachers tell their students the same thing. Show some respect and do not interrupt someone that has the floor to speak. She may of not liked what she heard but she had no right to interrupt him. Most classroom teachers would not put up with students interrupting them.
I find it appalling that so many people bash him because he is a christian and that is why he did not listen to her. You do not understand Christianity at all. Out of all the other religion Christianity gives more rights to women then any other religion.
A business man is what we need for this country not someone that will turn us to a socialist country. you have no idea what turning us into a socialist country will do to us. It is ultimately going to allow the rich to get richer and the poorer to stay right were they are. Everything will be taken from the middle class.
Shiva (Moderator)
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Can you tell us where the socialism is in the current administration or are you going to run away?
Romney is not a christian, he is mormon and has a different god then you
Reynardine
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 8:36 pm
I don’t doubt your teachers told you to be quiet in class many times, because if you think Rott Mimney is a “Christian”, you must have been disruptively stupid.
Phyllis
Sep. 25th, 2012 at 10:25 am
totally agree!
min
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 9:21 pm
Amy, Mitt Romney is NOT a Christian. He is actually a Mormon. If you have failed to pick up that fact then you haven’t been paying attention to this political season at all. If you are voting for Mitt Romney because you think he is a Christian with what you think are Christian values, then you need to re-evaluate your candidate. President Obama IS a professed Christian and he does follow the teaching of Jesus Christ by wanting to care for the least fortunate in society.
John Kelly
Sep. 24th, 2012 at 12:45 am
If you don’t know Mormons are Christians you haven’t been paying attention for about as long as you’ve been alive, never mind this election season. Just ask one. You’ll get an earful about Jesus, I guarantee you, and if you visit one of their services (I dare you) you will hear Jesus’ name invoked many times.
Not that it matters. In this country, religion and government are separate. I don’t care if a candidate is Christian, Muslim, Hindu, agnostic, or atheist; all I care about is whether they’re honest and capable. I got my own stuff to do on Sunday, I don’t give a damn what they do.
CB
Sep. 24th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Actually that is incorrect. Mormonism is not equivalent to Christianity in any way. Mormons believe Jesus was a prophet just like their own prophet, Joseph Smith and that alone is an absolute abomination to Christian theology, but I will give you more… Mormons believe if your skin is non-white it is because you were cursed by God <- look it up! Mormons believe they are going to live on a planet after death, not Heaven, and that they will be the supreme ruler of this place with their wives beside them as servants; basically that they will be Gods in their own right in their after lives. Mormons even believe they have to be dressed in special garb after death in order for their God to accept them and give them this planet/place that they are to rule over. I don't remember reading anything even remotely like that in Christian theology. Mormonism is not even close to Christianity. It is actually significantly closer in it's beliefs to Islam, though it's even got vast differences from that religion; it's just a closer approximation to try to relate those two religions than to try to relate Christianity to Mormonism.
nomad
Sep. 24th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
It could be argued that Mormonism is a Abrahamic religion, since Jesus is considered to be a prophet. This is also true of Islam and Judaism which considers Moses, Jesus and others to be divinely inspired but not deities.
Since its conception, Mormons have had a antipathy towards Christianity. The third president of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, John Taylor, in Journal of Discourses, states:
We talk about Christianity, but it is a perfect pack of nonsense…. and the Devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work that the Christianity of the nineteenth century.”
The Encyclopedia of Mormonism gives still further information:
“The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints does not see itself as one Christian denomination among many, but rather as God’s latter-day restoration of the fullness of Christian faith and practice…Other forms of Christianity…are viewed as incomplete…
That, incidentally, is precisely how Muslims see both the Jewish and Christian faiths.
Mary
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 9:21 pm
Amy, who said anything here about him being a Christian much less bashing him for it. He contradicts himself: I’m going to lower the tax rate by 20% across the board….the wealthiest will still be contributing the same percentage that they have been. He’s changed what he says he’s for so many times he may not know what he supposedly believes these days.
But that’s why I think he’s unpopular – no one’s sure of what he’d actually do if elected.
Daran
Sep. 24th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
That’s not a contradiction at all – if you bothered to actually look at his tax plan. The wealthiest don’t pay much in Income Tax…their income comes from Capital Gains….completely different…which he is in favor of actually raising taxes on.
shari telek
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 10:06 pm
Mormonism is NOT Christianity! To the Mormons Jesus Christ is a prophet. Joseph Smith, who wrote the Book of Mormon, is worshiped over Jesus. Get your facts straight. Hey, even the Muslims think Jesus was a prophet!
John Kelly
Sep. 24th, 2012 at 12:41 am
I’m not a Mormon, but your statements are false. Mormons are indeed Christians. They do not worship Joseph Smith. I spent a couple of years in close company with them and every prayer I heard ended with “our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.” Their theology (bizarre as it is) never puts any human above the Trinity. They don’t worship Joseph Smith any more than they do Ezekiel, though they regard both as prophets.
Not that it matters. The Constitution says religious tests cannot be used as a qualification for public office. If you have a problem with that, you might want to move to Iran.
Reynardine
Sep. 24th, 2012 at 11:43 am
Given that Mormons believe that God began as a mortal human being on another planet, physically impregnated Mary, physically begot Satan as well as Jesus, and that mortal human male Mormons become Gods on other planets, Mormonism can at best be styled a rank Christian heresy.
PaterMike
Sep. 24th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
“Mormons self-identify as Christian, though some of their beliefs differ from mainstream Christianity.” ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mor... – third paragraph).
Mormons do not believe in the traditional idea of the Trinity, which most Christian religions regard as necessary to be called Christian, regardless of the specific brand of Christianity (see www.whatdomormonsbelieve.... and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chr... ).
nomad
Sep. 24th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Mormon’s 15th president Gordon B.Hinckley, (as reported in LDS Church News in 1998) stated that the Christ he believed in is not the same Christ as the one followed by those outside the LDS Church. He stated:
[Joseph Smith]knew more of the nature of God than all the learned ministers of the gospel of the ages”
I assume that this statement refers to the writers of the New Testament. In rejecting the Gospel, and declaring the God can only be understood through Smith, Mormonism can hardly be called Christian anymore than Scientology.
The twelfth president of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church) from 1973 until his death in 1985, Spencer Woolley Kimball wrote in his book, Miracle of Forgiveness:
“One of the most fallacious doctrines originated by Satan and propounded by man is that man is saved alone by the grace of God; that belief in Jesus Christ alone is all that is needed for salvation.”
Since the time of the Nicene Creed in 325 AD, this was a unshakable tenet of the Christian faith. So no, Mormons are not Christians. I have more examples if you need more.
T Taylor
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 11:21 pm
Listen carefully to the video again:
1) You are ‘assuming’ that the teacher interrupted. There is no evidence to support your assertion!
2) There was NO mention of Christianity in this video. Your comment here is about as relevant as last week’s football score.
galactusx
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 11:46 pm
Whether or not he is, or is not, a christian does not matter. He is not a christian by the way. Mormonism is not a christian faith and is a cult. There were no Hebrews here in America long ago and the Native Americans are not some remnant of such. There is no planet Kolob and women are not populating their own planets. Jesus Christ and Lucifer are not brothers etc. Pay attention people just because they use the title of Jesus Christ in their religion does not mean they are christian. If I call my church the Church Of Jesus Christ of Baba Rum Raisin does not make it christian.
Dona Rozell
Sep. 24th, 2012 at 12:09 am
First, Romney is not Christian because he is a Morman. Second, buisiness being the the keeper of the henhouse is the weakest argument for Romney ever. Bless you poor fool.
Mr. Wonderful
Sep. 24th, 2012 at 12:58 am
“I find it appalling that so many people bash him because he is a christian and that is why he did not listen to her. You do not understand Christianity at all. Out of all the other religion Christianity gives more rights to women then any other religion.”
Of course you do. Like many Christians, you are in love with the feeling of being persecuted.
But your comment is ludicrous. The teacher didn’t say anything about his being a Christian. He said something with which she disagreed and he couldn’t be bothered to listen to her. Who have you seen who “bashes” him for being a Christian? It’s like saying that people bash him for wearing suits. And by the way, many Christians think he’s not a Christian because he’s a Mormon.
Then again, never mind. The Republican Party has become the party literally of insanity, of delusional people who passionately believe in things that not only are not true, they’re demonstrably, objectively not true.
Orhan
Sep. 24th, 2012 at 2:50 am
At school, students are there to learn and the teacher is there to teach them. If Romney is going to treat an insider expert, whose opinion he should value and learn from, as a teacher treats a child who is there to learn some predetermined curriculum, that right there shows up his extreme arrogance, lack of caring, and unsuitability to be president.
And just out of curiosity, where does the notion come from that people bash him for being a Christian? People dislike him for being a liar, for being uncaring, disrespectful, for lacking in empathy, compassion, honesty, and dignity. All these are qualities one would associate with a good Christian. So, if Christianity is going to come into the picture at all (and it is far from clear why it should), then one would have to say people dislike him for not being a good Christian.
Carol Habig
Sep. 24th, 2012 at 3:00 am
I’m sorry but Mitt the twit isn’t a true Christian at all. He is a Mormon. They believe that God had once been a man and became a god. Jesus is NOT god to them. Mormons control their women. They are to have lots and lots of babies. There is a difference. Also, Mitt was taught that ONLY men have the correct answers and women have no say. Mitt the twit was also pontificating on things he doesn’t understand sa usual. Amy, you have no clue about Mormonism. They even used to believe that Blacks were that way because of the sin of Cain so they couldn’t be Mormons. The only reason now that African-Americans can be Mormons is because the US Government wouldn’t give money to them because of the racism. So, the then-prophet heard a voice that said that blacks can now be Mormons so the Mormons could get money. Mitt the twit understands NOTHING and he was RUDE to the teacher. She wasn’t a student. He asked if there was a teacher and his comment and question REQUIRED a statement or an answer. Mitt the Twit pontificates and he considers 47% of the country worthless. Are you part of the 47%, Amy? If so, Romney doesn’t give a freaking damn about you. Mormons give almost nothing. Women, if they displeased their women, used to KILL them by slitting their throats. Brigham Young did it and so many did as well. He is NOT a Christian. Mormons pretend to be Christians. Learn the difference, Amy. Check out the history before YOU start pontificating and be stupid. This is NOT a socialist country and Obama is NOT a socialist. Learn the difference. Mitt wants a Oligarchy. Of the rich, by the rich and for the rich. Mitt deserves to be bashed because he is an evil man. Mitt baby wants to give MORE tax breaks to the rich and it will cost the middle class and destroy them. Mitt the twit is, indeed, a pompous ass. Amy, deal with it and learn your history. Stop watching Faux News. They rot your brain.
John of Indiana
Sep. 24th, 2012 at 7:52 am
Amy, did your husband make you write this?
I’ll echo the idea that you must have disrupted the class with idiotic pronouncements when you were a kid because you’re stupid enough to think that what was screwed up royally in this country by a “businessman” can be fixed by another “businessman”.
Pat Boni
Sep. 24th, 2012 at 7:52 am
Obama is also a Christian–you don’t know how to write properly “(have” not “of”), and you haven’t the vaguest idea what socialism is. Obama is not a socialist, he’s a true democrat, and Romney is a plutocrat.
Ingrid Buxton
Sep. 24th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Willard is not a Christian.
Emmett Grogan
Sep. 24th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Hello Amy: This wasn’t a classroom and the teacher was there to give her input – that’s what a round table is, everyone has their say. The article says nothing about her interrupting him, anyway. Again, this is a round table, not a speech. And people aren’t bashing him because he’s a Christian, heck, most Americans don’t consider Mormonism to be Christian, even though they do believe in Jesus. They bash him because he is completely out of touch, hasn’t told the public what his plans are as president and he gives completely idiotic, senseless, out-of-touch responses to questions. Nor does Christianity give women the most rights – that would be neo-Paganism, who believe that all things feminine are sacred. Far too many Christians want to take away a woman’s reproductive rights such as birth control and abortion. And Christians AREN’T the victims – but Moslems, Jews and neo-Pagans are. These groups are systemically abused by Christians. I live in the South, and I don’t know anyone who isn’t Baptist that will come out publicly about their religion, even if they’re Catholic because you risk being ostracized, not being able to do business with anyone and perhaps even having your house burnt down. yes, that’s happened and it was Christians that did it, no one else. Someone spread around the rumor that we were “devil-worshippers” – which we aren’t and never would be, but people in this small town believed it and it hurt us horribly, I couldn’t even get a vet up here for my horse, who subsequently died. So don’t tell me Christians are the victims, they do far more victimizing than any other religion. And as anyone not Baptist can tell you, there is no freedom of religion in the South, because of the Christians who bully anyone not of their own faith.
gsb
Sep. 24th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Emmett,The examples you give are exactly why I would never move down south.The mind set is just way too small.
iodine9
Sep. 24th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
sure, teachers (me included) have told students “i didn’t ask you a question” while in the classroom, especially if it is out of context or untimely. but being in a classroom is different from being at a round table discussion with a political candidate. she may have interrupted him, but she did it in a valid, profesisonal manner. moreover, as far as anyone knew, they were all equals at the round table. romney proved that he was more interested in underlining his power differential by shooting her down and disproved his ability to appear, at the very least, as if he thought that “ordinary” people might have some answers or solutions to problems that affect them and that he had a modicum of interest in finding out. you present a second issue of people lambasting him for his religious convictions. i would suggest sticking to one issue per post because otherwise you spread your convictions too thinly and because your arguments become more difficult to keep track of – it is hard to figure out what issue you are more passionate about: that the teacher was hypocritical or that others need to leave romney alone for his faith? otherwise, try to find a logical thread to link two disparate ideas together to show process in contemplation. you are welcome.
nomad
Sep. 24th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
“She may of not liked what she heard but she had no right to interrupt him.
With that statement, you have broken the hearts of every English teacher who tried to teach you basic grammar. :)
“Most classroom teachers would not put up with students interrupting them.”
A baffling comparison. Nothing was said about interrupting. Besides, we can assume that Romney did not come to teach, but to have a discussion which necessarily involves listening and speaking in equal measure.
Romney’s behavior is yet another example of the kind of disrespect he tends to show those on the front line, the workers and the people who actually contribute to the country.
V
Sep. 24th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Where have you been? First, what has being a “christian” got to do with anything? Second, Romney is a MORMON, not a Christian. MORMONS are the guys that say that Jesus wasn’t good enough to save the world, so God had to call Joseph Smith and give him magical spectacles to read golden plates no one else could see to tell the world how to live. At least get the basic fats right.
Amatullah
Sep. 26th, 2012 at 10:31 am
It was a roundtable discussion. That means Romney is supposed to talk and listen. Not lecture. All the participants are supposed to be on equal footing. He seems to think that the people need him and he doesn’t need the people. He could have told her that he would like to hear her idea, in just a minute. That is what a smart man would do. Instead, he was rude and talked down to her. Unlike Mormons, Christians DO NOT believe they will be ‘gods’ one day. Mitt believes he already is.:-)
Jerzygirl45
Sep. 26th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
This was not a student-teacher situation. They were not there for a lecture by Mitt, it was supposed to be a roundtable where ideas are discussed. Apparently that’s not what candidate Romney had in mind.
She was trying to correct something she thought was not accurate and he shut her down. If he truly wanted to have a “roundtable” he would have said “ok, after I make my statement I’d be happy to listen to your ideas” but that’s not his style.
He can’t even fake caring about what the “little people” think or things are for people outside of his own set of experiences. Mitt is seriously clueless in thinking nobody sees this.
Laurel
Sep. 26th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Amy,
You need to read up on socialism and religion, and you are right, if Romney/Ryan are elected, everything will be taken from the middle class. Thus leaving us with rich and poor. Or “the rich” and their slaves. It is a lot easier to make money off the backs of others which is the Republican way. I can hardly stand how they can possibly be so cold, all of them, except the ignorant who don’t know any better. Bigotry comes from ignorance, and so does the Republican party.
Birf
Sep. 28th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Yes teachers say that too, but this was a round table, not a lecture.
jlt
Sep. 24th, 2012 at 9:12 am
More DICTATOR….than leader!
Anne
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 10:28 am
Romney has been saying or doing something during every single day of this election cycle to prove his unworthiness to sit in the White House. His dismissive remarks against this teacher are only an example of his utter contempt for the people in the country he is campaigning to lead. How anyone other than the fabulously wealthy can even consider voting for such a sorry excuse both as a candidate and as a man is mind-boggling. He is used to making unilateral decisions without being questioned, and he is obviously unwilling to accept the input of a seasoned teacher who has valuable insights. Just when I think I can’t despise him any more than I already do, he always outdoes himself.
Dan
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 12:34 pm
I completely agree with your statement, although I do remember 2004 when “W” was running for re-election. I kept saying the same thing…”How can anyone vote for George Bush not once but twice?” Well the results were very painful.
Peggy
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 2:23 pm
YES!!!!!!
buckeyewill
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 10:45 am
If we don’t have good schools and good teachers, how are we going to compete with India and China????
Public schools are not going away.
Eykis
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Buckeye,
I agree that public schools are not going away, however, this is the GARBAGE that is coming out of Nashville’s WEALTHIEST:
www.tennessean.com/articl...?
THe wealthy people in Metro (one of the few county-city govts) and surrounding areas already send their kids to Xtian schools anyway – there is one on every corner with basically no requirements for teachers – many receive GEDs because they are not certified. It is the usual REPIG crock o’ crapola~
Riley
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 10:25 pm
I live in Nashville and there are people who want their kids attending religous schools, but a great many are simply tired of sending their kids to failing schools. Even the “good” public schools in the suburbs fail when compared nationwide. The price of private schools is staggering and the public ones are failing. What’s a parent to do?
A Walkaway
Sep. 24th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Ah, but are they failing, or being starved to death?
It’s been proven a lie for a few years now that the Public Schools in this country are failing. The private ones don’t do any better… and they get their pick of the students too. There is a book out (I’ve forgotten the name, but I think it was posted on this blog a few times) that demonstrated the fact that the dominionists and Republicans have been after public schools for a long time, because they didn’t have as much control over what the students encountered (critical thinking, evolution, exposure to different cultures especially) as they’d like.
There is also a connection between quality of schools and the funding available to those schools… especially when it comes to teacher salaries and supplies (I’d agree that doesn’t apply so much to funding for fancy new buildings and nice Taj Mahals for the administration, or for using tax moneys for gigantic salaries and benefits for administration). Yes, throwing money at a problem doesn’t mean that the problem is solved, but starving the schools “into submission to “JEEZHUS” creates many times more problems than ever existed before.
Janiska Nordstrom
Sep. 24th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
It really doesn’t matter why the public schools are failing in making your choice for your children’s school. I chose to send my children to christian school for the better academics and the religious instruction. I did not want my children in an inferior public school because I believe in good education. If our public schools had been good, I would have sent my kids there. I agree that we need to have better public education. PS I work in public education, and made a well-informed choice
A Walkaway
Sep. 24th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
First, the research showing that the public schools aren’t failing is pretty sound. It’s a political lie that’s been told too many times so people believe it. If you’re rich enough to send your kids to a religious school, well, that’s your problem.
Second, I’d ask what “Christian” school you send your children to, and what their curricula are. If they’re teaching anything like most do (A Beka, creationism, “America was founded as a Christian Nation”, etc.), you’ve just failed your kids big time. If they don’t expose your kids to other cultures, ditto. Since most “Christian” (and that includes mainstream) church-based schools are very sectarian and insular, it’s likely that they aren’t getting the benefits of a good public education.
If you support crap like “A Beka”, creationism, or the other alternate “Christian” (really anti-Christian) curricula, you’re part of the problem and have nothing worthwhile to add to the conversation.
Cheryl C
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 10:47 am
He is playing up his CEO attitude. Romney sees himself sitting at the Bain conference table. How dare you interject?
Mary
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 10:48 am
Bush the 2nd he will only allow those who are uninformed and think like he does to speak…As each day passes more people see what a disaster mitt would be.
paulabflat
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 10:55 am
private schools and vouchers.
if he or his minions can’t make money off of it, forget it.
Shiva (Moderator)
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 11:05 am
How many people will have to quit jobs to get their kids to schools across town when they can “choose their own” schools?
And why, if the schools go all private is ANY of my money going towards them? Vouchers? I think not thank you.
I cant imagine Obama Dismissing a person at any type of meeting
Peggy
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Amen!
David Hinson
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 11:14 am
“I felt like his view was a little old-fashioned and I was surprised by it. He went on to kind of lecture me about schools and how bad they are. He talked bad about the teacher’s union. He was talking about the importance of private schools and voucher systems.”
it looks like he wants to end public schools- and unions.
i have a mesage for the ewepeople who watch faux news, “Romney baaaaaaaad”
Heidi
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 11:16 am
We have documented evidence of Mitt Romney and his view on the world and life in general. We have documented evidence that he says and does whatever he needs to to win whatever office he is running for.
We have documented evidence that while Mormons are about social responsibilty and giving to the poor and helping those with less that he doesn’t practice that.
We have documented evidence that Mitt feels that 47% of this country are lazy.
But yet Pres Obama is only leading him bewteen 5-8% depending on what state that you are looking at.
There are people out there that don’t care that Pres Obama has their back, they are mad because a man of color has their back.
Anne
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 11:25 am
It just goes to show that we now know more than enough about him to know what a horrible president he would be. He is running the most inept presidential campaign in recent times, he was a lousy governor, and his tenure at Bain has been one of getting more wealth at the expense of thousands of workers whose jobs he outsourced after firing them. His utter disdain for those less fortunate is now well-documented, and with all these facts in mind, there is no reason to believe he would have our best interests in mind. If he was such a poor governor, and even worse at running a campaign, why would anyone think he could be an effective president?
Robert Chapman
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Anne, I just read your comment about Romney being a horrible Governor in Massachusetts and I feel that comment is a little unbalanced.
Romney was Governor when Massachusetts passed the frrst in the nation comprehensive medical insurance reform law.
Eomney’s role in that accomplishment is unclear, but it is counter-factual to deny that he had a major hand in passing that momentous legislation.
The difficulty with Romney, in my opinion, is that one doesn’t what one will get with voting for him.
Maybe we will get the Romney who carefully and tactfully stage managed the passage of Romney-Care….
Maybe we will get the Romney who panders shamelessly to the Right and is willing to bankrupt the US Treasury doing so.
The risk is just too great and the constrats with the accomplishments of Obama/Biden too stark.
Anne
Sep. 24th, 2012 at 12:05 am
Well, when he was governor of Massachusetts, the state ranked 47th out of all 50 in job creation. Besides, many folks from Massachusetts don’t have good memories of him as governor, and he is alleged to have outsourced jobs even in that capacity. Unbalanced or not, he has not campaigned the strenght of his one term as governor, and he has been especially quick to run away from his signature accomplishment during that time–his health care bill. Instead, he tried to use his tenure at Bain, where his actions as a predatory corporate raider cost so many folks their jobs, which he also outsourced to other countries. Sorry, but he just doesn’t seem to have been a very good governor, and that was his one experience in an elective office.
Kevin Shinn
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 11:31 am
Well, it’s not like Governor Romney was talking about me being one of those 47%… I’m white! I mean, c’mon–common sense!
NativeSonKY (@NativeSonKY)
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 1:41 pm
I wouldn’t worry at all about what the polls say. If they keep it looking close in the polls then the Dem base won’t get lazy and the Rs will keep pouring money into a losing race instead of putting their money in the down-ballot races. Actually the polls may be our best friend – and besides, the polls drive people to the talking heads and advertisers on the boob tube. They want to keep them close so people keep switching to their channels.
503me
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Sadly i have to agree with you, and the fact that racisim is so much a part of this election is shameful. The world laughs at us
Robert Chapman
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Who cares whether the world is laughing at us.
The effects of racism on the US are bad enough that we should be alarmed without reference to the outside world.
Students in inner communities made up primarily of people of color have a 50% drop out rate. This is something like 20% of our youth who are not being prepared to live in the US economy.
We simply cannot absorb that sort of drain on our human capital without dire consequences for the whole US.
A Walkaway
Sep. 24th, 2012 at 10:56 am
Absolutely correct, and when you put “Tracking” into the mix, it’s a disaster.
Anthropologists who study educational systems are well aware of the problem with Tracking, and believe me, the students are as well. They know they’re being prepared for a life of low wages – abuse – no benefits – persecution and they resent it.
Even white kids get it. My best friend and all of his fellow students in high school (years ago) knew that they were being tracked for working in the groves or the mines, and only the rich kids had any real future ahead of them (usually being trained to take over their parents’ businesses). They were open about the reason why they were acting up in school – because they knew what was really going on and that they didn’t see any future for them. He told me about the tracking a LONG time ago… like in the 90s – long before I’d learned how bad this area really is.
My best friend had to flee the county to try to have a future besides that labeled by the schools (which are solidly controlled and run by “Good Christians”, by the way).
The kids believe they’re essentially throw-aways (minimum wage grunt laborers) in society, and that is a devastating thing to believe about yourself (the churches tried – and succeeded for a while – in programming that in me). You add racism to that mixture and a good question would be “Why are people surprised at the low results?”
Reynardine
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 11:20 am
That is probably also how he believes in dealing with women generally. What a pr (strike that) prince (strike that) President!
ACW
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 11:27 am
The very definition of an autocrat. This goes back to my argument that Mitt is not receptive to ideas from *anyone*. He surrounds himself with Yes Men, which is precisely the sort of situation that led us into the Cuban Missile Crisis. Being a bully and barreling ahead with crummy ideas may work in a corporate setting, but is NOT a sound practice for the Executive Branch of our government. The man is an egotistical sociopath and has NO business being anywhere near responsibilities of decision-making. I am truly terrified by the thought of him representing our nation in foreign relations, and absolutely appalled that the GOP sold him the nomination.
Suz
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 11:31 am
It’s consistent with the ‘Grab the Gold’ strategy. Whether it’s social security, Medicare, defense, pension funds, or education, the goal is to continue draining the money out until gone. When enough of us decide that his strategy isn’t in our interests, we’ll get rid of the tax loopholes, big government subsidies, corporate “wealthfare” and put our tax dollars elsewhere. A couple looks at the growing inequality gap shows where our money really goes, and it isn’t into the services the public wants.
That’s why Romney doesn’t listen — better education isn’t really his goal. The worse off education is, the easier it is to get the money by hollowing out public education budgets. I hope more people will catch onto the privatization shell game.
Elizabeth
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 10:02 pm
Eventually the day comes when the big business folk have no customers. The masses no longer have any money to buy anything. Then the masses get mad. In this day and age the billionaires will find there is no place on earth to hide. Molotov cocktail anyone?
molly malone
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 11:33 am
The mistake Cheryl made was in thinking she had been invited to discuss education from an in-the-trenches professional teacher’s perspective. That this was not the Romney camp’s intent is clearly evidenced by the fact that she was peremptorily shot down right from the get-go.
I suspect the real reason she was invited to this “discussion” was so Romney could say, “I’ve met with teachers all around the country (I’m sure Cheryl is not the only one) about the deplorable state of public education, and . . . (fill in the spiel for vouchers and privatization).
I am sick and tired of hearing, “Public schools are failing our children.” B.S. In failing to adequately fund public schools, WE are failing our children. End of rant.
Jan Hobbs
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Three cheers! And a standing ovation…you hit the nail squarely on the head. :)
Kevin Shinn
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 11:45 am
Do you know I laughed myself silly about the Clint Eastwood/Invisible Obama turn on Romney’s night at the RNC for about a day-and-a-half–until it finally dawned on me: these rich and self-important bastards with their Diebold-brand electronic voting machines, all the ALEC legislation, and megafucktons of “Citizens United” enabled advertising bucks are rubbing our faces in it! They’re thinking, “It’s in the bag.”
T’would be particularly nice to prevail over them this time.
Reynardine
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 12:05 pm
That has occurred to me. They are already demonstrating how little they care about what the ewepeople think, want, or need.
Kevin Shinn
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Oh, but the plutocrats have a plan to provide us something very nice (and it’s a public works project as well, I’m sure): a grinning, talking Animatronic Reagan Head on Mount Rushmore! I bet it has glowing eyes too.
It’s all in the Book of Revelation. Chapter 13. Word.
Robert Chapman
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Besides the emotional thrill of winning an election
a second Obama/Biden term backed up with a Democratic majority in the Senate and higher numbers of Dems in the House would give us
*a chance to take action on entitlement reform, maybe
* meaningful action toward sustainability
*trimming some of the bad deductions from the tax code,
*reworking the military to serve as defenders instead of high class muscle for the plutocrats.
Just a thought.
A Walkaway
Sep. 24th, 2012 at 11:04 am
I like that thinking!
(Especially that the rich learn they’re not entitled to our money!)
Churchlady
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 11:50 am
He forgets he is asking us to hire him. He is accountable to us, not the other way around. He can’t seem to learn that, so he’s unfit for the position he is seeking.
Rosemarie Benintend
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 11:52 am
You cannot speak unless a response is demanded by Him.
And your head cannot be higher than His.
And your back cannot be turned to Him.
And you’d BETTER see his new clothes, even if you can’t.
Susan
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Isnt that how all Mormons see themselves
James Ryan
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 11:56 am
Ideologically impaired Mitt the Twitt could not allow open discussion or out of his comfort zone ideas as he would not be able to cope or be in control enforcing his ideo myths…arrogant patriarch…needs counseling so he canhandle diversity…openess is a sign of self confidence…he has none.
Tim
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Entitled to steal and too “special” to learn.
kathleen harris
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Like I have said all along, he will be the dictator without much compassion for anyone other than his 10%ers. He is not interested in anyone, their ideas, or what the masses need. He has no idea of what he will do, other than what he wants to do…and that part he is not telling any of us!
So, BETTER WATCH OUT! He is a snake in the grass. And once he and Ryan gain control(if they ever do), we will be stuck with wahtever they do..and it is assured that WE will be paying for it!
SinghX
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 3:34 pm
Of course he’d become dictator…the Republicans have been looking high and low for someone with “Ken Doll” looks (they learned Palin attracted on looks while Lieberman, not so much…). The Republicans have been looking for a “charismatic” to lead the masses (so they picked Ryan) and they’ve known all along to…they know they can’t win any other way.
They hand picked Romney a long time ago–they picked him because he IS a dick, a theocratic jerk and knows how to run a business into the ground. They now act publicly “surprised” at his behavior? They now pretend they don’t “like him”, that he needs to get it together when all along they thought they had this thing bought long ago…it’s all a big, debauched, well-calculated farce.
Goldie
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 12:19 pm
What is it with these assholes and vouchers?
Missa
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 1:43 pm
It’s all about moving public money into (wealthy) private hands.
A Walkaway
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 6:47 pm
One of the dominionists’ stated goals for generations has been the total destruction of public education. Edy-me-cay-shun is supposed to be taught in the churches, dont’cha know, with 6000 year old flat earth and all the trimmings (such as blind obedience to authority, submission to those “above” you, etc.).
Seriously, that has been a goal for a long time. They consider public education to be socialism, anti-Christian (because it teaches – or is supposed to – people to think for themselves and such “horrible” subjects such as evolution and about other cultures), and taking away authority from parents and churches.
I’ve read of the anti-public-education cry dating back to the turn of the 20th century. Now that the dominionists have political power, they’re working to gain one of their stated goals.
Oh, and a second aspect is funneling all that tax money into church coffers.
Disillusioned
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Arrogance embodied …. Facts, truth, honesty, principals, integrity, be damned. George W. all over again.
Larry Conley
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 12:33 pm
W was actually a human being. Myth Romney is a cyborg!
Larry Conley
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 12:32 pm
In his 25 years as a financial CEO, Myth Romney operated on the basis of authority and he became habituated to authoritarianism.
His rudeness to a round table panelist is simply an expression of that. This is not a mistake on Myth Romney’s part. It is an example of whom he really is.
A Walkaway
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 2:23 pm
There was a link posted on here in the past that perfectly explains his behavior and attitudes – it’s tied up in his Mormon religion and its beliefs about authority and their church structure. Romney was a Mormon Bishop… and he expects no questioning or disagreement, total obedience, and subservient behavior. Everyone must be in their place and stay there (which is where-ever he decides it is).
His actions at Bain Capital can be explained too.
He’s no different than if Huckabee, Palin, or any other dominionist got into power… bad news from the word Go – and driven by religious ideology.
Roger Tafel
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 1:30 pm
How could anyone not question Romney’s ability to deal with the issues that affect the common American? If he’s not interested in hearing from a teacher about the state of education in our country, then is not interested in hearing anything from any of us. He apparently has already made up his mind about all things important to us and will implement his agenda without our cooperation. Maybe that is why he refuses to give details about anything related to his “plans.” To do so would turn so many against him.
D. W. Skinner
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 1:41 pm
it will be soooo great when he is gone.
Barry Roope
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 1:44 pm
At this point in the election, everybody with a brain, knows exactly what Romney and Ryan plan on doing, should they be elected. They have said it in code, and they have said it in plain speak, so if the American people are foolish enough to elect this hard hearted duo, people should expect to be exploited and used. Ryan and Romney are so devoid of morality and common sense to expect anything but tragic results is foolish. The American people need to vote in massive numbers for President Obama, to send the message to the Tea party Republicans, that if they plan on obstructing any further, they will be thrown out on their asses. The Tea baggers are responsible for the slow recovery, because they have voted against every job bill and other bills that would have helped the economy. We need to show the tea baggers, that their corporate goals of enriching the 1%, are not goals of average Americans. It’s amazing to me that the Tea party is to dumb to realize that the Corporations, used their anger to go out and vote against their own best intrests, Corporate CEO’s must laugh their asses off, about how the tea party is helping them gain more profit and power over the American Government. Guess what Tea baggers, the corporations are done using your ignorance, so basically, once Romney loses the election, your tea party funding is going to dry up and you will be back where you started, old, white and angry about the black guy in the White house. But unlike Mitt Romney, President Obama will still care about you and your family’s well being. Even though the tea party has insulted him and his family, he has honor and character, so he won’t turn his back on you, he will do his best to see all Americans have an opportunity to succeed. As Americans, we are very lucky to have such a great statesman representing us.
Robert Chapman
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 5:00 pm
The Tea baggers are responsible for the slow recovery, because they have voted against every job bill and other bills that would have helped the economy.
A bit of hyperbole is to be expected in political discussions-but let’s stay real on the recovery
it has been slow for economic reasons like
* lack of demand due to many paying back high levels of debt
* hign and rising inflation in fuel and food
* a mismatch between the job skills of many workers and the skills needed now in the economy and
* very turbulent world events which have slowed economic growth through nearly the entire Eurasian area.
TEA Party most certainly have not been helpful, but a lot of our economic suffering cannot be removed by government action.
Threfore it is more important than ever that the government take a lead role in
*training and retraining workers for tomorrow’s good jobs
*providing an income base for unemployed people
*providing food aid to prevent hunger
*assuring affordable access to high quality medical attention for all
*regulating banks and other financial institutions to eliminate predatory practices
*protecting the environment and assuring sustainable economic growth
*encouraging investment into sunrise industries that will grow jobs and discouraging investment in stagnant sunset industries whose continuing decline will lead to job losses
* and pursuing sound foreign policy that protects America’s interests while simultaneously lowering our military footprint and reducing the risk of war.
Obama has had a lot to do over the past four years, but he done it well and has earned re-election.
A Walkaway
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Part of the reason why “new job skills” are needed is because people like Romney shipped all of the jobs overseas. If they’d crack down on the “outsourcing” (even federal programs like Student Loans are handled in India – I’ve been insulted and abused enough by those jackasses) and force the corporations to do with a little less profit, retraining wouldn’t be needed nearly as much – if at all.
I used to repair robotics and computer-driven machine tools… and was there on the cusp of outsourcing. They’d have me fix up the machines, then ship them to the place where they could have skilled machinists doing the work for $5 a day and no benefits OR SAFETY LAWS. I was present a few times when the employees were let go – when they were told and got their last paychecks (no advance warning – not once in 14 years of seeing it).
They were given an hour to gather their things and leave, along with their final paycheck (they often literally risked loosing hundreds to thousands of dollars worth of personally-owned tools). In one case, the owner came into the shop and said “Why should I pay you jerks $20 an hour, when I can do the work in Mexico for $5 a day?” He also made some comment about not having to deal with OSHA any more.
I also learned that (1) it was a bad sign for me because when that happened, there was a good chance I not only wouldn’t get paid but if there was anything of mine on the premises, it was already shipped out, and (2) the futility of trying to recover money in situations like that. The rich do have a habit of not paying their bills if they can get away with it, and they don’t give a damn about their employees.
JJM
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 2:08 pm
What an ugly man this is, inside …
Linda Ferris
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Wonder if he would have shut the teacher down if it had been a man? Don’t think so.
NOTE TO WOMEN: In Romney’s world, you will not speak unless spoken to. Get it now????
Reynardine
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 2:54 pm
That was my thought also.
A Walkaway
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 3:02 pm
I also had that thought, but primarily I remembered being treated like that before I started working for myself.
That sort of attitude and behavior is typical of an abusive employer (especially those that get physical), and I encountered it even in “shop meetings” where we all were supposed to have input.
Tazman
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 2:36 pm
I have worked at a number of private corporations, from large to small. In those roles, I have experienced working with dozens of different managers. Whenever I am asked who the best and worst of those managers were, my answer was, and is, that the worst manager is the one who when we first met immediately made it clear that I should not ask any questions. That whatever I needed to know, I would be told what it is. The best manager was the one who honestly asked for my opinions and ideas, and was not looking for an echo of his pre-conceived answer but my own genuine response, not one biased to make him feel better. Guess what, the best manager is the one who consistently had the best results. Romney’s shut-down of that teacher loudly echoes the worst type of manager. So far, Obama has, to me, been an example of one of the best.
Robert Chapman
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Romney is not alone in treating teachers rudely and in disrespecting their opinions.
My daughter, a tenured NYC public school teacher and successful former NYC teaching fellow, often complains that the district level administrators treat the teaching staff like children.
But in displaying such open contempt for this teacher and, by reflection, the teaching profession, Romney is adding to the dumbing down of America that is one of the major outcomes of the Conservative Revolution that started with Ronald Reagan.
ibwilliamwsi
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Clearly Bishop Romney doesn’t understand the concept of a round table.
Favi
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 5:31 pm
I am not a bit surprised! He is showing his true nature more and more. He cares nothing for anyone who is not a rich, white man. Scary, scary, evil creature!!!
Maranon
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 6:03 pm
The ladies in the LDS church better stay out of the men’s business.
Their job is to get married as early as possible out of high school ( as soon as her mate returns from his mission), then start poping as many babies as possible (because that is the only way she can get into heaven, if her spouse allows it to happen)Her job is to make the cookies, clean the house, teach church on Sunday & Wed school and do not speak when not spoken to…It applies to all females in the church, why is it surprised that disregards other females opinions? it has worked for him all his life and why start treating females any other way now?
calma60
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 6:28 pm
Is there video or audio of the round table itself?
stenc
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 10:03 pm
With people the likes of Romney and Ryan taking over the Repo Party, and now trying to ascend to power in the U.S. through voter suppression, intimidation, and division, I fear that our America, the one we love, would fall into the hands of Neo-Fascists.
They have no respect for anyone who works or has worked for a living, especially teachers. They want to pump 2 trillion more into the Pentagon. I believe the ultimate goal is to dumb down our children and stick them all in the military. They want to subjegate the poor and needy. They can look into our eyes and openly lie.
STAN BURNS
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 10:25 pm
I find it quite amusing that if the name Obama replaced every mention of Romney in every one of these posts, then the wording would apply equally to Obama.
Reynardine
Sep. 24th, 2012 at 6:30 am
Ah, I see. You started out from humble beginnings. You began as an apprentice baiter, and worked your way up to master.
jem loften
Sep. 24th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
LOL!! That’s the funniest thing I’ve seen all day :D
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Sep. 24th, 2012 at 1:05 am
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Earl
Sep. 24th, 2012 at 7:34 am
If you want to help education boycot all state lotteries they are supposed to support education but they do not they show false statements of where the money actually goes
What they show thats going to education is actually what they spend on advertisement and lobbyist
Laura Person
Sep. 24th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Can we see the actual video of him saying this and not just her.
Linda
Sep. 24th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
The omnipotent Mr. Romney, is not above treating men in a disrespectful manner either. During the Republican debates, when asked a specific question, he spoke on an entirely different subject. The moderator, in essence said….you didn’t answer my question. Mr. Omnipotent said….I don’t have to. I’ll answer what I want to answer.
Gary DalCorso
Sep. 24th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
I agree with Laura. I am an Obama supporter, but to be fair I want to hear Prince Dancing Horse say what he is accused of having said.
A Walkaway
Sep. 24th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
There is another thread on this Blog that is recent, talking about the number of hits on YouTube. You may find it there.
Seriously?
Sep. 24th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Every Google reference that I can find to this “round table” that supposedly happened back in May only has her opinion and comments. I am highly skeptical that it even occurred. As a high profile candidate for the top office in this country, I would think that there would be media presence at a meeting such as this. Why haven’t we heard anything before now if it actually occurred. Where are the other people at the round table backing up her story? Very fishy and not very credible.
Shiva (Moderator)
Sep. 24th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Where are the people denying her story?
Chris Daniel
Sep. 25th, 2012 at 1:44 am
Christian or not, Mitt is a Moron (no, I didn’t forget the “m”). Compared to Obama, Mitt’s speech-giving skills are equivalent to “Nell’s” (Jodie Foster movie). I can’t imagine anyone believing he’d be good for our country! (Yes, I know, speech-giving isn’t the main requirement, but he can’t even keep from saying stupid things when he’s trying to get elected!! Just imagine when he’s got 4 guaranteed years to screw up!}
Missy
Sep. 25th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
So he shut the teacher up like the teachers shut the students up …. sounds like she was showed how it feels …. teachers need to start listening to and talking to students rather then shuting them up and talking at them …. then they may start learning and respecting
A Walkaway
Sep. 26th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Really? She was invited to the Round Table (with the strongly implied reason of giving her input as an expert and professional) and then told to shut up?
I know, professionals are bad. Experts in their field are bad too (I remember the nasty comments in the damned “Good Christian” churches I attended – about “expert being from ex – a has been, and spurt, a little bit of water”). Only “Good Christians” and Republican Politicians really know anything, of course.
Anyone with a fraction of a brain would realize it’s the other way around.
I think you’re deliberately missing the real point – that Romney is an abusive asshole who disses women and anyone who doesn’t go along with the party line – something that is characteristic of the Mormon and Dominionist churches.
StevenX
Sep. 28th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
Silly teacher. She forgot to throw him money first.