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Guns Don’t Kill People But Second Amendment Radicals Do
It’s been a few weeks since the tragic Arizona shootings and as is typical in event aftermath the conversation about gun rights has ceased. Immediately after the incident gun sales shot up because people wanted to defend themselves against crazy. Also, as usual after all headline making gun related deaths, there were predictable reactions from those who proposed limiting gun rights and the equally expected retaliations from gun advocates re their constitutional right to bear arms.
Those who choose to kill with guns in these types of incidents are often disenfranchised, have diagnosed mental problems or are romanticizing the deadly event they want to orchestrate. Since we are no longer in the wild wild west of untamed territories where the law of the land was often written by the smoke of a Peace Maker, I think we need to reframe how we discuss gun rights. We must first address the systemic societal problems that cause someone to pick up a gun with the intent to kill because then and only then will we be able to stem the violence that is so pervasive in society today.
Being a gun culture, our language is saturated with gun related idioms. At work you may be ‘under the gun’ or ‘going great guns,’ sometimes you ‘jump the gun’ or ‘beat the gun.’ If you’re trying to get someone to do something they resist they feel you’ve ‘put a gun to their head.’ During an argument you ‘stick to your guns’ or might call someone a ‘son of a gun.’ If you’re investigating something and find the element that breaks open said investigation you’ve found ‘the smoking gun.’ These sayings, which equate to a violent expression of shooting, are second nature to us. The mentally tormented among us that are planning an act of evil may use those phrases in their everyday and because we’re used to hearing them, we don’t recognize the eminent threat .
Not only does our culture contribute to the ease in choosing a gun to kill but so does the political landscape and rhetoric. It is extremely easy to purchase a gun. Your neighborhood Wal-Mart sells them. Sometimes car dealerships will offer you a gun with the sale of a vehicle. Republican State Legislatures have introduced and passed legislation to allow guns in parks, bars, and now schools. And when the phrase “guns don’t kill people, people kill people ” is the mantra of gun rights advocates it’s easy to see how an angry person would reach for a gun and pull the trigger.
The phrase “guns don’t kill people, people kill people” is inane. Of course guns kill people and of course people kill people. Oh I know a gun, in and of itself, just sitting there doesn’t pick itself up and fire itself but it is a weapon, an instrument of death. Obviously a person must make a choice to kill and then having made that choice must then choose the weapon and when that person chooses a gun, it’s the gun that delivers the bullet that enters the body that wounds or kills.
Guns by their very nature are not passive, their whole purpose is to shoot a bullet at something or someone. Oh you can dress them up in pretty pearls or gold accents, you can put extensions on them to silence their bark or distance see but just because they’re all gussied up doesn’t negate their violent nature. I can understand people’s desire to hunt; defend themselves and their property but how many guns does one need in order do to that and what type? And before the NRA comes knocking on my door to pass out pamphlets –I was raised around guns.
My father took me hunting with my brother, not all the time though and he took us target shooting. But here’s what Dad did that’s missing in a lot of gun ownership households today, he sat my brother and I down, not once but several times and repeatedly educated us about guns, he kept the guns locked in gun cabinet long before it was mandated he do so and he kept the bullets separate from the guns.
In addition, he repeated over and over again what we were to never, ever, ever, ever do with a gun which was point it at another human being. A lot of today’s gun owners are vigorously ignorant and use their gun not to hunt or defend but to intimidate and control and they do not educate their children about responsible gun ownership but rather educate them on whom to shoot.
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Sarah Jones
Feb. 21st, 2011 at 2:22 pm
Welcome to PoliticusUSA, Janine! We are so happy to have you.
I love this post. You have reframed this issue brilliantly, and somehow made it personal to the reader. I agree 100% with your take on this. The part that hit home the most was your dad’s warning to never point a gun at another human being.
Excellent work.
janine
Feb. 21st, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Thanks Sarah, I’m glad you liked the piece. I’m happy to be part of the team and happy to get the conversation going
Reynardine
Feb. 21st, 2011 at 2:24 pm
I have stated before that people kill people, sure, but they seldom do it with macaroni, and even when they do choose macaroni as a weapon, it’s actually the Velveeta that does the dirty work.
Well, you can die of Velveeta, but it doesn’t kill quickly, and outside of an institutional setting, it’s limited in scope and easy to avoid. A 1787 flintlock killed faster than Velveeta, but it was almost as limited and avoidable. By the Civil War, minie balls and hand-cranked gats had increased the efficiency of murder, and we now have weapons that can mow down a hundred on an instant’s itch. They don’t belong even in the hands of a skilled hunter, let alone a felon or a lunatic, and we need to rethink our laws accordingly.
novenator
Feb. 21st, 2011 at 2:45 pm
Excellent article and very fresh perspective!
Rmuse
Feb. 21st, 2011 at 2:58 pm
Welcome Janine to PoliticusUSA and thank you for addressing this gun society. It is a problem that will never go away unless the culture changes. It’s too bad we can’t fast forward to 2011 where we don’t need guns to protect our horses. But, since we are stuck in 1861. I can’t wait for the 20th Century to arrive. People will be more civil and will no longer need guns to survive. Until then, we’ll just have to lock and load and hope the South doesn’t try to secede from the Union.
janine
Feb. 21st, 2011 at 11:30 pm
I too pray for the 20th Century to arrive because then I’ll be able to vote, of course my friends won’t be able to marry whom they choose, but baby steps…
Shiva (Moderator)
Feb. 21st, 2011 at 3:26 pm
that’s the first thing I think of when I see complete morons having to carry weapons to political rallies and other functions. My dad in his lifetime no matter how strongly he felt about politics would not take a weapon out of that gun case unless he was going hunting or we were going to the gun club. There is no reason to. actually there is no excuse for it. If you have to strap on a weapon to make yourself look big, then you have to know inside your pretty small. Guns do kill people and anyone who says different is lying to themselves. I know several people were I live they carry pistols and have concealed weapons licenses, and they say it’s to protect themselves. But the odds of them ever using it for that are extraordinarily rare. And the odds of them hurting someone else if they did are extraordinarily high
this garbage about protecting yourself from the government is seriously wrong. Not to mention complete BS. For people to think that owning guns or the Second Amendment is the primary right in the whole Constitution is absolutely insane because it proves at least to me they have no thinking functions. And yes I own guns myself. They are in the gun cabinet
Reynardine
Feb. 21st, 2011 at 3:55 pm
I’d sure as hell rather see people engaging in the reckless public display of Velveeta, especially at political rallies.
Shiva (Moderator)
Feb. 21st, 2011 at 3:57 pm
you have to understand, that Valveeta is just as deadly as a gun. Both kill you from the inside
Reynardine
Feb. 21st, 2011 at 4:03 pm
Well, yeah, but you have a choice over whether to admit Velveeta into your internal workings.
T'omm J'Onzz
Feb. 21st, 2011 at 6:07 pm
i think it’s worth pointing out that the Second Amendment addresses “the right… to bear arms;” it doesn’t say anything about guns.
F Joy
Feb. 21st, 2011 at 6:18 pm
Thanks for bringing some sanity to this gun rights issue. The point about never pointing a gun at someone is so important to learn as a responsibility. Children have died by pretending to shoot someone and accidentally killing a sibling or friend. Then you have the loss and pain to a family member with the child having to live with the guilt for life. Even though the Republicans want to convince people that only crazy people kill people or are irresponsible with guns, that is not entirely true as with most GOP concepts. When gun shows or gun shops sell to just any and everybody, those guns end up in the hands of hardened criminals. Automatic assault weapons are also traveling south of the border to be used by drug cartels.
bargeman
Feb. 21st, 2011 at 8:00 pm
I think it would be a good idea if we took away all the guns. Them the criminals would be alowed to kill whoever they wanted too. I think the police are the worse ones to have guns. If we took them away obama could make us all, his and the government thier SLAVES.
Sarah Jones
Feb. 21st, 2011 at 11:08 pm
Yes and we all know Obama wants to make us his slaves! Thanks for keeping this discussion reality based.
bargeman
Feb. 21st, 2011 at 8:01 pm
I think it would be a good idea if we took away all the guns. Then the criminals would be alowed to kill whoever they wanted too. I think the police are the worse ones to have guns. If we took them away obama could make us all, his and the government thier SLAVES.
AcidQueen
Feb. 22nd, 2011 at 7:00 pm
Go back to the Freep, troll.
lalamen
Feb. 23rd, 2011 at 6:41 pm
And a particularly ignorant troll at that. What is Garbageman even trying to say? No logic in your argument, loser. Try again.
Anthony Del Signore
Feb. 22nd, 2011 at 2:20 am
Gun control in the US is quite understandably a very touchy issue- the right to bear arms is, of course, the second amendment of our constitution, a right guaranteed for the protection of the self and the inviolable right to personal freedom. Its something that needs to be viewed in context however, as this ‘right’ was given to the people to adequately defend themselves as militias against foreign invasions, given the whole American Revolution ordeal. That said, times change: we are wont to go out and by guns for personal protection, but given our country’s $800 billion/year expenditure on military spending, buying guns to protect ourselves from an invasion seems kind of superfluous.
There is the issue of home defense, however. The right to protect one’s own makes sense, but I doubt very much that the founding fathers wrote the second amendment in order to protect Americans from other supposedly crazy Americans. Guns are also vastly different in their capacity to kill today, and are far more effective at doing so than they were 230 years ago. An AK-47 can fire 700 rounds per minute, not the 1 round per 2 minutes it used to take to fire a basic rifle. That we’ve been privy to continue making more and more efficient death machines is saddening, but besides the point.
Americans love their guns- they always have, they have always felt entitled to them, and likely always will, because any threat (whether it be a Mexican drug cartel or inner-city gang violence or terrorists) will stir Americans into a gun-buying frenzy, because guns make people feel safe, a rather counter-intuitive notion given how proficient they are at killing people. As RMuse posted, this is unlikely to change unless there is a large cultural trend that legitimately renders guns erroneous. Seeing as how the second amendment has been around about as long as the US (and especially how this amendment was effectively a preventative measure against “others” harming “us”), this may not change for some time, if ever. I personally feel that the second amendment is an archaic relic of a time long ago, when America had a very real reason to feel threatened in its infancy as a country. But fast forward 230 years. Times have changed, and the US is the most powerful nation in the world. If you really feel you need a gun, fine. But use it with the responsible knowledge that guns are intrinsically very dangerous, and that, in all likelihood, you probably don’t one. And if you do get one, know that it will likely only spur others to do the same.