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Senate Republicans Plan to Shut Down the Government Unless Obamacare is Defunded
In the recording industry it is fairly common knowledge that regardless which artist, producer, arranger or record label puts out a bad song, it
was destined to fail because it was a bad idea. A highly-regarded, big-name artist can re-record the song, use a different arrangement, and record label, but they will not have any more success than the original artist because the song itself was a bad idea. In 2008, then-Senator Barack Obama likened John McCain’s alleged “change” to the same failed Bush-Republican ideas and said “You can put lipstick on a pig. It’s still a pig,” and the same principle applies to Republicans today who claim they are a changed party after their defeat in November, but are still adhering to the same bad ideas and strategies with enhancements that make them worse.
For four years, Republicans obstructed and attempted to block every effort by the Obama Administration and Democrats to jumpstart the economy, and held recovery hostage to achieve more tax cuts for the rich, eviscerate the public sector workforce, and slash spending to keep the private sector in a perpetual hiring slump. However, President Obama and Democrats foiled Republican’s strategy with the American Reinvestment and Recovery Act (stimulus) and payroll tax reduction that bore fruit the economy is still benefitting from. Republicans began the 113th Congress with the same agenda and tactics they used throughout the last session, and their goal is the same; halt recovery, kill jobs, and resort to hostage taking to fulfill their anti-government austerity mission as the economy is improving.
The GOP message coming out of their post-election defeat was a friendlier group not beholden to the richest one-percent of income earners, and strong advocates for the middle class, but regardless cosmetic changes, they are the same Republicans. Thus far, instead of growing the economy and creating jobs, John Boehner pledged the GOP’s primary mission in 2013 is ending abortion, Senate Republicans plan to withhold funding to keep the government running as hostage for a ransom of defunding the Affordable Care Act (ObamaCare), and House Republicans for ending the contraception coverage mandate to satisfy religious extremists promoting theocracy. Paul Ryan is expected to reveal a House budget proposal that gives the wealthy tax cuts, privatizes Medicare, and enacts severe austerity measures to impact hiring and create deeper poverty among already struggling Americans. Last week, Republicans celebrated the Koch brothers’ sequestration cuts that guarantee to slow growth, kill jobs, and take food out of the mouths of children, seniors, and the working poor that repeats the entire agenda of the 112th Republican Congress.
There was good news yesterday when the government reported that unemployment fell to a four-year low of 7.7% with better-than-expected gains in the private sector courtesy of the President’s stimulus, payroll tax reduction, and low tax rates for businesses that Republicans opposed because they knew consumer’s having additional money to spend would spur private sector hiring and create new jobs. The report also put to rest the absurd Republican notion that the only way to create jobs was through deep spending cuts that takes money out of the economy. However, the good news was tempered with a warning that the improved jobs numbers would be short-lived because the Republican sequester cuts will impact hiring and kill anywhere from 400,000 to one million jobs later in the year as a result of the abridged first year of sequestration. The next nine years of sequester cuts will increase by approximately 20% and have a profound effect on jobs and economic growth.
Economists expect the sequestration’s effects to begin in the April jobs report as businesses will be discouraged from hiring in expectation of reduced consumer spending, and warn that the full effects of reduced hiring will be manifest later in the year once austerity cuts have had time to contract economic growth, but Republicans were well aware that enacting austerity during a tepid recovery would kill jobs and retard growth.
The report was good news for the private sector, but public jobs are still decreasing as Republicans have cut federal and state government middle class jobs that drive real economic prosperity and growth. In fact, if public sector jobs like teachers, law enforcement, and federal employees were maintained at the same levels as at the end of 2008, last month’s jobless rate would be 7.2 percent. The public sector workforce has been ravaged over the past four years, and last month 10,000 more jobs were eliminated as spending declined in the never-ending debt and deficit reduction crusade to cut the government.
In the Senate, teabagger hero Ted Cruz promised to shut down the government unless the Affordable Care Act is defunded, and Republican savior Marco Rubio concurred with Cruz that unless the health law is eliminated by defunding, he too will vote against any continuing resolution to keep the government running. House Republicans have their own ransom to keep the government operational to satisfy evangelicals desperate to end contraception coverage in conjunction with Paul Ryan’s Sanctity for Human Life Act that grants personhood to a single-celled organism. It is the same Republican agenda that Americans suffered through for the past two years and it is predicated on wasting time on issues unrelated to growing the economy and creating jobs, and shutting down the government unless the healthcare law and contraception are eliminated.
Republicans have failed at governance at epic proportions, and are repeating every foul tactic to subvert the economy and kill economic growth they used during the 112th Congress. Defunding the ACA will not create one job any more than criminalizing contraception, privatizing Medicare, or deliberately killing hundreds-of-thousands of jobs through sequestration cuts, but creating jobs was never a Republican priority and they have made it clear that during the 113th Congress their plans and despicable tactics remain unchanged. Republicans can tell Americans they are nicer, working for the middle class, and working to grow the economy, but regardless their self-portrayal as altruists toiling to change their image, they are still pigs, hostage takers, job killers, anti-government religious fanatics, and devout woman-haters and no amount of phony makeup will change who they continue proving they are; enemies of the people.
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Shiva(Moderator)
Mar. 9th, 2013 at 10:58 am
I have no idea why anyone would support the gop and their plans. Do they want birth control to be a thing of the past. Do they want their parents ruthlessly thrown into their homes? Do they want their children, who might have cancer or juvenile diabetes to die needlessly? Do you want to see your kids kicked off insurance when they get sick like they used to be again? The GOP has no alternatives to these plans, they just want ACA gone.
Its no different then the idiots who support unions disappearing. Will they wait until they themselves have lost benefits and regular raises? No more nice paid vacations? Do they think the GOP has an alternative to the benefits you now get? The laws that govern both the benefits and the healthcare you have now are easily dropped.
Selfless uncaring people
GeneralLerong
Mar. 9th, 2013 at 12:20 pm
They think they can win a civil war and get back to bossing everyone else around.
Different century, same delusion.
vance
Mar. 9th, 2013 at 6:31 pm
selfless…?
don’t you mean selfISH?
i’d never describe repugs as “selfless”.
Shiva(Moderator)
Mar. 9th, 2013 at 7:22 pm
Well selfless indicates to me there is no soul. Nothing inside. Empty
Sandra
Mar. 10th, 2013 at 12:36 pm
Souless would be a more apt description of the R’thugs. Their aim is to destroy what’s left of American that Bush/Cheney wasn’t able to do with the help of their masters, Koch(roach) Bros., Big Oil, Big Pharma and their ilk.
When will their followers who will suffer the most, wake up and realise these thugs are using them for their own selfish purpose and care nothing about them. Jesus said ‘a country that wars among themselves with fail.’ Is that what they really want? It’s time to stop the division and hate and work together for the betterment of the County and her citizens.
Tina Israel
Mar. 9th, 2013 at 11:10 am
Please tell me I am still sleeping and this is all a bad dream! You know what, go ahead and shut down the government. At this point it is almost completely useless. Are you sure there is no way we can somehow get rid of these particular people in Congress? Can their state recall them or something? Or can they be impeached and tried for treason? Something, anything. . .
Reynardine
Mar. 9th, 2013 at 12:32 pm
The only feasible course is to go after them on public corruption charges, for which I am reasonably certain the evidence is there; once they are serving time, it is up to that Chamber to refuse to seat them.
Practically, this is only worth the effort with senators, and with representatives who never face opposition. Otherwise, the remedy is to ensure effective turnout against them.
TStMauro
Mar. 10th, 2013 at 11:06 am
Treason–yes, but not against the government. Treason against the people of this country. Is that possible?
Judy M
Mar. 9th, 2013 at 11:46 am
I have been wondering for the past ten years about the American public: Where’s the outrage? What does it say about us as a country that idiots like Eric Cantor, Paul Ryan, Ted Cruz, etc. get elected and re-elected and are allowed to destroy the good that we once had?
Paws
Mar. 9th, 2013 at 12:43 pm
Judy – you took the words right out of my mouth. The politicians are disturbing in their own right but what really disturbs me is that there are people out there voting these men and women into office over and over and over. It just boggles my mind. People are not actually paying attention so they just keep voting for the same people. It’s really unfortunate because it is the whole country that is paying the price.
Just A Dumb Fireman
Mar. 9th, 2013 at 12:45 pm
It says what I’ve been saying ever since my college years in the mid-70′s: This country is full of idiots.
Peter Barnett
Mar. 9th, 2013 at 2:19 pm
If Pelosi can get elected, anybody can.
“Well you have to pass it to find out what’s in it!”
Wow…
Paws
Mar. 9th, 2013 at 2:54 pm
I suppose understanding the context of a statement instead of a cherry-picked quote is too much to ask, huh Peter?
“In the fall of the year,” Pelosi said today, “the outside groups…were saying ‘it’s about abortion,’ which it never was. ‘It’s about ‘death panels,’’ which it never was. ‘It’s about a job-killer,’ which it creates four million. ‘It’s about increasing the deficit’; well, the main reason to pass it was to decrease the deficit.” Her contention was that the Senate “didn’t have a bill.” And until the Senate produced an actual piece of legislation that could be matched up and debated against what was passed by the House, no one truly knew what would be voted on. “They were still trying to woo the Republicans,” Pelosi said of the Senate leadership and the White House, trying to “get that 60th vote that never was coming. That’s why [there was a] reconciliation [vote]” that required only a simple majority.
“So, that’s why I was saying we have to pass a bill so we can see so that we can show you what it is and what it isn’t,” Pelosi continued. “It is none of these things. It’s not going to be any of these things.” She recognized that her comment was “a good statement to take out of context.” But the minority leader added, “But the fact is, until you have a bill, you can’t really, we can’t really debunk what they’re saying….”
mjh
Mar. 11th, 2013 at 2:18 am
“If Pelosi can get elected, anybody can.”
True enough. Look at George W. Bush.
Oh wait — he was appointed, not elected . . .
“Well you have to pass it to find out what’s in it!”
No — you have to READ it to find out what’s in it . . . something Boehner and the other Teapublicans who complained the Healthcare Bill was “too long” refused to do . . .
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Ginny F
Mar. 9th, 2013 at 5:25 pm
Judy, we don’t see the outrage because most of the people who are being screwed are working two or three lousy paying jobs to try to make ends meet; I personally know at least 5 single moms in exactly that situation. They’re so tired, they don’t have time to be parents to their kids or get a decent night’s sleep. The rest of us have to speak out on their behalf.
mjh
Mar. 10th, 2013 at 12:32 am
What does it say about us as a country that idiots like Eric Cantor, Paul Ryan, Ted Cruz, etc. get elected and re-elected and are allowed to destroy the good that we once had?
It says that the Kochsucker Brothers have spent quite a lot of money . . .
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Anne
Mar. 9th, 2013 at 12:09 pm
Anyone who is part of the government and threatens to shut the same government down if they don’t get their way is treasonous. There really needs to be some kind of mechanism in place to get people like these out of powerful positions rather than wait 2 to 4 years to vote them out after they have done possibly irreparable damage. I also consider what they are trying to do impeachable.
Susan
Mar. 9th, 2013 at 1:27 pm
Anne, I completely agree. If your candidate loses the election you don’t get to call it “rigged” and the winner is a “dictator.” It’s called LOSING you morons. So anytime a Democrat is elected and enacts a policy voted for by a majority of the people the GOP will seize the government and shut it down crippling the country until they get their way? That’s called overthrowing the government. Can we use drones on them since they are such a threat to national security on American soil? Please, try these petulant lunatics for treason already.
Rho
Mar. 9th, 2013 at 5:46 pm
the whole of the two houses need a reboot. let’s get some real, fresh, uncorrupted people in there, that can leave the labels behind and use logic to fix things! Oh, here’s one!
drummondforcongress.org
David Wilson
Mar. 9th, 2013 at 12:17 pm
I’m trying to get this Whitehouse petition launched in response to this Rubio tactic. No service no pay, wh.gov/7wq6
TigerLily
Mar. 9th, 2013 at 12:51 pm
Can you start one that says BOEHNER DOES NOT SPEAK FOR THIS AMERICAN! I’m sick of hearing him go out there and say THE PEOPLE SAID AND WANT this and that, that the GOP is proposing. NO I DON’T AND NO I DIDN’T! Someone stop him! Is he speaking for you when he says the 1% deserve more tax breaks? Is he speaking for you when he says women shouldn’t have basic birth control, mammograms, cancer screenings? Do you agree that children should starve over a tax break for the rich? Do you agree if a woman gets raped she should have nothing to say about how she wants to handle that most traumatizing situation that could can happen to a woman or young girl? Do you agree she should not have the right to an ABORTION if she chooses? Do you agree that we should NOT CREATE JOBS so the black Pres can look like he did it? Did you agree to NO BENEFITS, NO PENSIONS, NO SS, NO MEDICARE, NO INFRASTRUCTURE, NO FAIR WAGES? So many things I do not agree with that he said I did. I DID NOT. Then lets sign this PETITION dam it and STOP BOEHNER FROM SPEAKING ON YOUR MINE AND EVERYONE’S BEHALF when we DO NOT AGREE WITH HIM OR THE GOP–except of course their RW constituency that do mind at all that their party is DESTROYING AMERICA!
zelduh
Mar. 9th, 2013 at 2:45 pm
I would have signed your petition if you had not included the President. He has worked really, REALLY hard; but the House is the problem.
Nettles
Mar. 9th, 2013 at 3:49 pm
I’ll sign on to this; however, I don’t think the White House can do this (separation of powers and all). In order for the proposed provisions of your petition to happen, Congress would have to pass a law. And…passing laws doesn’t seem to be something that they are very good at now.
TigerLily
Mar. 9th, 2013 at 12:22 pm
It says our people don’t pay attention to politics or don’t understand how political decisions/choices/agendas impact their lives until they get hit in the face with it. If you’re not listening to what they’re saying you’ll know nothing and thereby do nothing and not be prepared when you do get impacted. I mentioned the sequester to my coworkers yesterday..they were like ..What’s that? OMG! And they have spouses in the industries that will be imipacted. They may lose their jobs. I didn’t mention them that part. They are not ready for what the GOP will do to them in the name of KEEPING TAXES FOR THE FILTHY RICH & CORPS. The RW CONSTITUENCY will not realize what their leaders have done to them until they become one of the very people they detest –THOSE TAKERS–who lost their jobs because of your GOP and now are forced to rely on government assistance to stay alive so the GOP can again give tax breaks to millionaires who have so much money already they invest/house it in foreign countries BUT NOT AMERICA. And now they want to take that away from you too. Are you paying attention yet? To the RW constituency I say this. May the sequester your so proud of your GOP leaders bestowing upon us AMERICANS for no other reason than to make us hate and blame our black PRESIDENT OBAMA… may it place you exactly where you do not want to be but will–with the very people you HELPED DESTROY BY SUPPORTING YOUR COLD BLOODED AND BIGOTED GOP party. I feel for you. Because you’re next in THE FOOD LINE aka FOOD STAMPS. YOUR MIDDLE CLASS LIFE IS OVER. It used to be AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL. Now? Thanks to the GOP, ALEC and the KOCH BROS, and your support of the GOP it is now AMERICA THE FORESAKEN. In closing I would say I hope you all rot in hell for all the UNECESSARY suffering you have caused AMERICAN FAMILIES and continue to cause to so many for no other reason than YOUR GREED, BIGOTRY, HATE FOR WOMEN/MINORITIES/GAYS, our AFRICAN “AMERICAN” PRESIDENT and OUR GOVERNMENT which you CANNOT run a CIVILIZED COUNTRY WITHOUT. Sorry, I’M PISSED AND SICK OF THE RW!
Sandra
Mar. 10th, 2013 at 12:49 pm
Your post reminds me of my brother who lives in Houston, Texas telling fellow coworkers who are R’thug supporters that voting for Bush will cost them their job in the technology(computer) industry which they didn’t believe. It’s now a reality. He mentioned a few days ago that downtown Houston is filled with Indian workers being paid minimum wages to do the jobs Americans once had. His job was reclassified and he had to take a 40% cut in salary in January and his wife’s job was just downsized and she was let go after almost 30 years of loyal service. Why are people so stupid, they ignore the warnings until they get smacked in the face with reality then blame the other side. Makes you wonder, are we getting smarter or just more stupid as a race?
oldfoxbob
Mar. 9th, 2013 at 3:09 pm
To purposely attempt to shut down the government, is treason at least. Any person in Congress who attempt’s to do so should be arrested and charged with this crime. Or Each state that said representative is from should start a recall election of that person to remove them from office. This is Extortion at its greatest. Black Mail plain and simple.
Rhonda
Mar. 9th, 2013 at 6:15 pm
Their threat to shut down the government amounts to nothing more then treson. Those in public office who attempt to do such a thing should be arrested, jailed and brought to trial in front of the American People for treason and homeland terrorist charges.
Rhonda
Mar. 9th, 2013 at 6:33 pm
Treason is defined as an act of disloyalty against a nation or national sovereign by a citizen of that nation. It is usually treated very seriously by the penal system, as a single calculated act can utterly destabilize an entire government. In most countries, conviction of high treason is accompanied by a death sentence, a long term of imprisonment, or a substantial fine. Someone who commits this crime is called a traitor. Anyone can be a traitor, including ordinary citizens, members of the government, or active duty military.
A major act of treason would be an activity that is designed to lead directly to the overthrow of a government, or carrying out a threat to a major state figure, such as a member of the royal family or a president. If the nation is involved in a war, fighting on the side of the enemy is treason, as is assisting enemy combatants. Spying and other acts of disloyalty are usually prosecuted under the same laws, as they are viewed as betrayals of trust that ultimately operate to undermine the government in power.
Jeff R
Mar. 10th, 2013 at 1:44 am
You’re right on this one.
But I don’t believe they can be proven guilty of treason, but I’m pretty sure they can easily proven guilty of sedition.
Sedition – “The crime of creating a revolt, disturbance, or violence against lawful civil authority with the intent to cause its overthrow or destruction [aka drowning government in the bathtub].”
Because it is limited to organizing and encouraging opposition to government rather than directly participating in its overthrow, sedition is regarded as falling one step short of the more serious crime of treason… [R]ecently, the courts have applied a more stringent test of sedition to ensure that constitutional guarantees regarding freedom of speech are not abridged. See also Alien and Sedition Acts.”
They are too cowardly to actually commit treason, but they are quite willing to and practiced at inciting it.
American Eagle
Mar. 9th, 2013 at 8:15 pm
shut the bitch down!!!!
Shiva(Moderator)
Mar. 9th, 2013 at 8:18 pm
I am leaving this to show there are still uneducated low in formation people out there. The proof is they cant find their caps lock key and they hate their coutnry
Dr Billy Kidd
Mar. 9th, 2013 at 8:16 pm
Shutting down the government is just another idle threat unless it can be blamed on Obama. That is why the House of Representatives passed a continuing resolution. It gives the president 98% of the money he asked for. Boehner is one up on this one by not blocking government funding through September. The Senate should take it up and see if the Republican Reactionaries (Cruz, Rubio, McCain) filibuster it. If the Majority Leader, Democrat Harry Reid refuses to bring the bill to the floor, then Obama can be blamed for a government shutdown (But I have not read the bill. I expect that Boehner’s put some strange riders in it, like cutting Medicare and killing grandma, ending Headstart, making Fox News the Capitol In-House Station and yanking CNN).
labman57
Mar. 9th, 2013 at 8:53 pm
The Republican Party made a huge gamble by embracing the naive, frequently irrational, highly impulsive, usually hyperbolic rhetoric of the tea party movement. For the past four years, delusional tea party pundits and politicians such as Rubio have been behaving like a deranged, estranged spouse who — rather than lose the house, investments, and parental control of the kids in a divorce settlement — decides to burn down the house with the spouse and kids inside.
Churchlady
Mar. 10th, 2013 at 1:05 am
As one who leads ordinary citizens to action on key issues, I have one suggestion – stop blogging and go in groups to demand what you want at your House member’s office. Do it day in, day out. Join with unions, teachers, firefighters, progressive faith folks, unemployed or underemployed working people who can take the time, with minorities, seniors – whoever. BUT DO IT.
My organization mobilizes people on major issues, and when we get our dander up – WE WIN. We passed the CA Clean Air Act – not special interests or even enviornmental big groups but we did, the people, speaking constantly. We passed ACA, the people, not the ‘deals’ you all think happened (that didn’t) with insurance and Pharma but PEOPLE.
That’s YOU. If you think it’s useless of boring, you’re dead wrong. It’s WHAT WORKS.
Democracy is NOT a spectator sport. It requires diligence over and above rallies and demonstrations. What do you think would have happened if Civil Rights people had NOT pushed Congress and the President in 1964 and 65? We’d STILL be marching over the Edmund Pettus Bridge just to GET rights, not symbolically standing for preserving them.
If you think you don’t have time – think how much you just spent here. You can do both – you must. The art of power lies in showing up and making your wants plain. The one thing that ALWAYS offsets money is votes – ALWAYS. You show up, you show up again with MORE people, you make your views known – you will move mountains.
YOu don’t show up – well, the Baggers and ultra right ARE. So – learn from their power and success. Why the HELL do you think they won? They showed up.
Now you do, too.
sj
Mar. 10th, 2013 at 7:14 am
May God strike everyone of them down so they have to live in the poverty they have created.
bassie
Mar. 10th, 2013 at 8:03 am
You may be interested to look up and read about High Crimes and Misdemeanors a phrase from Section 4 of Article Two of the United States Constitution. Allegations of Misconduct by Officials. Phrase Covers All or Any Crime that Abuses Office. Abuse or Violation of Public Trust. Historical References: for Whatever Reason Whatsoever. High Crimes and Misdemeanors and what it’s phrase Means is a MUST READ! Even Wikipedia, gives a ok Reference or Sec 4 Art.2 of U.S.Const. One must ask,if members of Political Office have in fact stepped into the realm of High Crimes and Misdemeanors, the Process for Impeachment. The Sup Court held that such phrases must be construed, to what the framers meant when they adopted them, ok so check out what the framers said! Misappropriating Government Funds, Executive Rendered himself Obnoxious, Corruption, Maladministration,Solicit Bribe,Violation of Public Trust, a social distrust even, and many other examples. So just because you are an Elected Official it does not mean you can govern without Impunity,for the Detriment you may inflict upon Citizens! However if your expecting to get a vote on smething like this good Luck, they don’t vote on anything anymore!At very least it is a good read.
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labman57
Mar. 10th, 2013 at 11:11 am
The Republican Party made a huge gamble by embracing the naive, frequently irrational, highly impulsive, usually hyperbolic rhetoric of the tea party movement. For the past four years, delusional tea party pundits and politicians have been behaving like a deranged, estranged spouse who — rather than lose the house, investments, and parental control of the kids in a divorce settlement — decides to burn down the house with the spouse and kids inside.
djchefron(Moderator)
Mar. 10th, 2013 at 12:29 pm
Whatever republicans are smoking,it must be some loco weed.Get this,the much talked about wunderkind Paul(eddie munster)Ryan master budget plan to cut the deficit is based on the repeal of the ACA aka Obamacare.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…I cant breathe.Here is what he said on faux today
During an interview on Fox News Sunday, host Chris Wallace asked Ryan how the Republican budget could cut $770 billion out of Medicare in the next 10 years without impacting benefits.
“These are increases that have not come yet,” the Wisconsin congressman explained. “So by repealing Obamacare and the Medicaid expansions, which haven’t occurred yet, we are basically preventing the explosion of a program that is already failing. So we’re saying, don’t grow this program through Obamacare because it doesn’t work.”
“Are you saying, as part of you budget, you would repeal — you assume the repeal of Obamacare?” Wallace pressed.
“Yes,” Ryan insisted.
“Well, that’s not going to happen,” Wallace pointed out.
“Well, we believe it should, that’s the point,” Ryan replied. “This is what budgeting is all about, Chris. It’s about making tough choices to fix our country’s problems. We believe that Obamacare is a program that will not work.”
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And this my friends according to the media is the serious thinker of the republican party.I swear the GOP seems perfectly willing to hold their breath until the whole country turns Blue.
mjh
Mar. 11th, 2013 at 2:14 am
I swear the GOP seems perfectly willing to hold their breath until the whole country turns Blue.
I think you mean Red. :)
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Richard Fritz
Mar. 10th, 2013 at 4:13 pm
I tried,to reply to,this garbage once before without using direct vocabulary, I danced around with words that were probably far beyond the knowledge of most republicans . I refer particularly to rayan’s comments/ believes regarding contraception and the definition of life as a single called organism. Senator if you want to be that specific as to what constitutes human life you can not use the single cell theory. I am a scientist, (you are not,as shown by your ignorance on the subject of life) . Yes there single called organisms that are alive,trillions of types surely. But not human, to be human that single cell must replicate thousands if not billions of times , prior to that it is only a human stem cell. There is another direction that your way of thinking can take us. Haploid cells. These are sperm and egg which are basically half of the cell but are in the case of human produced , human.
So , the only your ideas for stoping contraception work is to disallow the production of such haploid cells out of the uterus.
In other words you appear to want to make it illegal for males to masterbate .
Charles Almon
Mar. 11th, 2013 at 1:58 pm
“Governing by Extortion”
It’s a Republican thang.