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	<title>Comments on: After 10 Years of Tax Cuts The GOP&#8217;s Job Creators Haven&#8217;t Delivered Jobs</title>
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		<title>By: Artie</title>
		<link>http://www.politicususa.com/tax-cuts-jobs.html#comment-117284</link>
		<dc:creator>Artie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 15:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1. US needs to stop being the policeman of the planet and an occupier of countries that hate us. We should not have been in Iraq or Afghanistan as an OCCUPYING force. Since its all about oil,...we should have been pumping Iraqi oil for all its worth and making them pay for our troops to be over there. Once we got Bin Laden, it was time to get out of Afghanistan.
2. Cut off foreign aid to our enemies like Pakistan. 
3. Cut out excessive government bureaucracies and duplication of functions within Gov&#039;t. Also, things like a &quot;Super Congress&quot; is probably a bad idea. What is next a &quot;Super Senate&quot; and a &quot;Super President?&quot; However, we do really need a full time committee  to deal solely with the complexities of this country&#039;s budget mess. Preferably one whose members DON”T  have ties to special interests and are real economists and some elected government representative.
4.Eliminate all useless projects and obvious &quot;pork barrel&quot; spending.
5. Outlaw lobbyists and special interest groups...they&#039;ve destroyed our government and the economy especially the &quot;banksters,&quot; oil lobbyists and Wall Street &quot;wise guys.&quot; The people need to take back this country.
6. Revise the tax code and plug all the loop holes used by &quot;wise guys,&quot; special interests (e.g. big oil) and other thieves. Better yet...get rid of the complex tax code and impose a flat tax where everyone pays a reasonable share except for the most indigent and poor. Any US company or individual using a tax haven is either laundering or hiding illegally gotten money.  IF they are found out, these manipulaters and “wise guys” should go to prison.
7. Crack down on financial fraud and black hole smoke and mirror economics on Wall Street. Put in prison, those unconscionable, greedy, bastards and &quot;wise guys&quot; along with their political cronies who caused the housing mess which necessitated the almost  $1 trillion in bail-out money footed by the taxpayers. Make the companies who got the bail out pay it back with interest to the taxpayers.
8. Hire more auditors to weed out welfare, medicare and medicaid fraud. Put auditors on commission.
9. People are going to have to work longer for Social Security and the income and salary base will have to be raised.
10. Medicare is going to have to be on more of a sliding scale. Those who can afford to pay more will likely have to do so and pay higher deductibles.
11. Enforce immigration laws.
12. Institute tort reform 
13. Stop political finger pointing...there is enough blame on both sides of the political aisle with our irresponsible Gov&#039;t and what is wrong with our country. It is useless. Neither party has done a great job.
14. Bring back &quot;Common Sense&quot; and throw out &quot;Political Correctness.&quot; 
15. Establish term limits for both houses of congress.
16. Separate God and religion from politics.
Anyone care to add anything useful?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. US needs to stop being the policeman of the planet and an occupier of countries that hate us. We should not have been in Iraq or Afghanistan as an OCCUPYING force. Since its all about oil,&#8230;we should have been pumping Iraqi oil for all its worth and making them pay for our troops to be over there. Once we got Bin Laden, it was time to get out of Afghanistan.<br />
2. Cut off foreign aid to our enemies like Pakistan.<br />
3. Cut out excessive government bureaucracies and duplication of functions within Gov&#8217;t. Also, things like a &#8220;Super Congress&#8221; is probably a bad idea. What is next a &#8220;Super Senate&#8221; and a &#8220;Super President?&#8221; However, we do really need a full time committee  to deal solely with the complexities of this country&#8217;s budget mess. Preferably one whose members DON”T  have ties to special interests and are real economists and some elected government representative.<br />
4.Eliminate all useless projects and obvious &#8220;pork barrel&#8221; spending.<br />
5. Outlaw lobbyists and special interest groups&#8230;they&#8217;ve destroyed our government and the economy especially the &#8220;banksters,&#8221; oil lobbyists and Wall Street &#8220;wise guys.&#8221; The people need to take back this country.<br />
6. Revise the tax code and plug all the loop holes used by &#8220;wise guys,&#8221; special interests (e.g. big oil) and other thieves. Better yet&#8230;get rid of the complex tax code and impose a flat tax where everyone pays a reasonable share except for the most indigent and poor. Any US company or individual using a tax haven is either laundering or hiding illegally gotten money.  IF they are found out, these manipulaters and “wise guys” should go to prison.<br />
7. Crack down on financial fraud and black hole smoke and mirror economics on Wall Street. Put in prison, those unconscionable, greedy, bastards and &#8220;wise guys&#8221; along with their political cronies who caused the housing mess which necessitated the almost  $1 trillion in bail-out money footed by the taxpayers. Make the companies who got the bail out pay it back with interest to the taxpayers.<br />
8. Hire more auditors to weed out welfare, medicare and medicaid fraud. Put auditors on commission.<br />
9. People are going to have to work longer for Social Security and the income and salary base will have to be raised.<br />
10. Medicare is going to have to be on more of a sliding scale. Those who can afford to pay more will likely have to do so and pay higher deductibles.<br />
11. Enforce immigration laws.<br />
12. Institute tort reform<br />
13. Stop political finger pointing&#8230;there is enough blame on both sides of the political aisle with our irresponsible Gov&#8217;t and what is wrong with our country. It is useless. Neither party has done a great job.<br />
14. Bring back &#8220;Common Sense&#8221; and throw out &#8220;Political Correctness.&#8221;<br />
15. Establish term limits for both houses of congress.<br />
16. Separate God and religion from politics.<br />
Anyone care to add anything useful?</p><div class="commentRating" style="padding: 8px 10px 0 10px; float: right;">What do you think? <img width=20 height=20 style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="up-117284" src="http://ww2.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_20_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('117284', 'add', 'www.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_20_'); ckRatingCkMarkUp('117284');" title="My thoughts exactly." /> <span id="karma-117284-up" style="font-size:13px; font-weight: 700; color:#009933;;">0</span>&nbsp;<img width=20 height=20 style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="down-117284" src="http://ww2.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_20_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('117284', 'subtract', 'www.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_20_'); ckRatingCkMarkDown('117284');" title="You got to be kidding." /> <span id="karma-117284-down" style="font-size:13px; font-weight: 700; color:#990033;">0</span></div>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.politicususa.com/tax-cuts-jobs.html#comment-117182</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 23:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bush only stole the first election.  The second one he won fair and square.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush only stole the first election.  The second one he won fair and square.</p><div class="commentRating" style="padding: 8px 10px 0 10px; float: right;">What do you think? <img width=20 height=20 style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="up-117182" src="http://ww2.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_20_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('117182', 'add', 'www.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_20_'); ckRatingCkMarkUp('117182');" title="My thoughts exactly." /> <span id="karma-117182-up" style="font-size:13px; font-weight: 700; color:#009933;;">0</span>&nbsp;<img width=20 height=20 style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="down-117182" src="http://ww2.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_20_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('117182', 'subtract', 'www.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_20_'); ckRatingCkMarkDown('117182');" title="You got to be kidding." /> <span id="karma-117182-down" style="font-size:13px; font-weight: 700; color:#990033;">0</span></div>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 23:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Use reverse psychology.  Say how &quot;great&quot; the republican ideas of cutting medicare and social security are, because you are sick of paying for the lazy people who are living off government handouts.  Right after you say this, ask your grandma how much she paid for her recent prescription.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Use reverse psychology.  Say how &#8220;great&#8221; the republican ideas of cutting medicare and social security are, because you are sick of paying for the lazy people who are living off government handouts.  Right after you say this, ask your grandma how much she paid for her recent prescription.</p><div class="commentRating" style="padding: 8px 10px 0 10px; float: right;">What do you think? <img width=20 height=20 style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="up-117180" src="http://ww2.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_20_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('117180', 'add', 'www.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_20_'); ckRatingCkMarkUp('117180');" title="My thoughts exactly." /> <span id="karma-117180-up" style="font-size:13px; font-weight: 700; color:#009933;;">0</span>&nbsp;<img width=20 height=20 style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="down-117180" src="http://ww2.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_20_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('117180', 'subtract', 'www.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_20_'); ckRatingCkMarkDown('117180');" title="You got to be kidding." /> <span id="karma-117180-down" style="font-size:13px; font-weight: 700; color:#990033;">0</span></div>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Basil</title>
		<link>http://www.politicususa.com/tax-cuts-jobs.html#comment-117113</link>
		<dc:creator>Basil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 17:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[  

How about forcing them to work a bit with a return to 91% tax rates?  The Tea-Nut-Partiers act like poor people need to be more poor so they&#039;re motivated- that was Clinton&#039;s line when he savaged welfare- but what about rich people? Wouldn&#039;t they work harder if money was harder to come by, too?

It seems to me that we have a moral obligation to tax away most of what people earn at the high end, because sloth is sin, and it is unfair to rich people to allow them to be unmotivated due to having too much money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about forcing them to work a bit with a return to 91% tax rates?  The Tea-Nut-Partiers act like poor people need to be more poor so they&#8217;re motivated- that was Clinton&#8217;s line when he savaged welfare- but what about rich people? Wouldn&#8217;t they work harder if money was harder to come by, too?</p>
<p>It seems to me that we have a moral obligation to tax away most of what people earn at the high end, because sloth is sin, and it is unfair to rich people to allow them to be unmotivated due to having too much money.</p><div class="commentRating" style="padding: 8px 10px 0 10px; float: right;">What do you think? <img width=20 height=20 style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="up-117113" src="http://ww2.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_20_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('117113', 'add', 'www.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_20_'); ckRatingCkMarkUp('117113');" title="My thoughts exactly." /> <span id="karma-117113-up" style="font-size:13px; font-weight: 700; color:#009933;;">0</span>&nbsp;<img width=20 height=20 style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="down-117113" src="http://ww2.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_20_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('117113', 'subtract', 'www.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_20_'); ckRatingCkMarkDown('117113');" title="You got to be kidding." /> <span id="karma-117113-down" style="font-size:13px; font-weight: 700; color:#990033;">0</span></div>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Fran Joy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fran Joy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 16:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is one thing I  just don&#039;t understand about supposed intelligent people. How is it that you actually believe that giving tax breaks and tax cuts to the rich create jobs. The big corporations are sitting on trillions of profits and they&#039;re giving their CEO&#039;s multi million dollar bonuses. (bonuses plus salaries) Where are the jobs and the job growth that would substantiate the GOP&#039;s claims? The growth that&#039;s taken place has been with the corporate execs. It&#039;s only a very small percentage of growth that takes place for middle class workers. (those that still have jobs) Do your research; that information has appeared on MSNBC on the Ed Show and the Rachel Maddow show. Try this link from the NYT for some info as well. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/08/business/economy/08charts.html Here&#039;s another reference from the Rachel Maddow Show on MSNBC, http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/07/26/7170139-charts-seriously-its-the-bush-tax-cuts.
One other reference from the Washington Blog, http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2011/07/its-simple-tax-cuts-for-middle-class.html There&#039;s lots of research out there. The Wikipedia gives the pros and cons, but the gist lets you know there is no trickle down effect from tax cuts to the rich. 
Important:
If you watched the GOP debate last night, all the candidates vowed to never raise taxes even if spending cuts are matched by 10 to 1. That pledge alone should send shivers down the spine of all Americans except the rich!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one thing I  just don&#8217;t understand about supposed intelligent people. How is it that you actually believe that giving tax breaks and tax cuts to the rich create jobs. The big corporations are sitting on trillions of profits and they&#8217;re giving their CEO&#8217;s multi million dollar bonuses. (bonuses plus salaries) Where are the jobs and the job growth that would substantiate the GOP&#8217;s claims? The growth that&#8217;s taken place has been with the corporate execs. It&#8217;s only a very small percentage of growth that takes place for middle class workers. (those that still have jobs) Do your research; that information has appeared on MSNBC on the Ed Show and the Rachel Maddow show. Try this link from the NYT for some info as well. <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/08/business/economy/08charts.html" rel="nofollow">www.nytimes.com/2009/08/0...</a> Here&#8217;s another reference from the Rachel Maddow Show on MSNBC, <a href="http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/07/26/7170139-charts-seriously-its-the-bush-tax-cuts" rel="nofollow">maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/...</a>.<br />
One other reference from the Washington Blog, <a href="http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2011/07/its-simple-tax-cuts-for-middle-class.html" rel="nofollow">georgewashington2.blogspo...</a> There&#8217;s lots of research out there. The Wikipedia gives the pros and cons, but the gist lets you know there is no trickle down effect from tax cuts to the rich.<br />
Important:<br />
If you watched the GOP debate last night, all the candidates vowed to never raise taxes even if spending cuts are matched by 10 to 1. That pledge alone should send shivers down the spine of all Americans except the rich!!!!!</p><div class="commentRating" style="padding: 8px 10px 0 10px; float: right;">What do you think? <img width=20 height=20 style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="up-117107" src="http://ww2.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_20_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('117107', 'add', 'www.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_20_'); ckRatingCkMarkUp('117107');" title="My thoughts exactly." /> <span id="karma-117107-up" style="font-size:13px; font-weight: 700; color:#009933;;">0</span>&nbsp;<img width=20 height=20 style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="down-117107" src="http://ww2.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_20_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('117107', 'subtract', 'www.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_20_'); ckRatingCkMarkDown('117107');" title="You got to be kidding." /> <span id="karma-117107-down" style="font-size:13px; font-weight: 700; color:#990033;">0</span></div>]]></content:encoded>
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