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Quran Burning Terry Jones Armed In Dearborn Michigan to Protest Mosque
Quran burning Pastor Terry Jones is in Dearborn Michigan to bring his special brand of “Christianity” to protest the Islamic Center of America mosque in Dearborn. Dearborn is home to the largest Muslim community in America and is in close proximity to West Bloomfield and surrounds, home to a large Jewish community. The communities have worked with the neighboring Christian community peacefully and successfully for years, making the Dearborn principle of religious tolerance and interaction a model for other communities.
Terry Jones wants to throw gasoline on their model of tolerance, but his plans have backfired.
Jones was denied a permit to protest on public property, and warned that he could be subject to arrest if he protested without a permit. Jones said that wouldn’t stop him from protesting. After a judge told Jones he could protest if he paid a peace bond and stayed in a free speech zone as he planned protest near a school and churches, Jones opted instead for a trial to rule on his planned protest for 5 PM, which is taking place today. Jones wasn’t pleased when the judge initially cited public safety concerns, suggesting that extra police would be needed if Jones were to protest and Jones needed to pay for such.
900 people gathered to protest Jones’ and to show solidarity with the Mosque, including religious leaders Archbishop Allen Vigneron of the Catholic Archdiocese of Detroit, Imam Sayed Hassan Al-Qazwini, leader of the Islamic Center; and Richard Nodel, president of the Jewish Community Relations Council.
The Detroit News reported:
The Rev. Charles Williams II, pastor of King Solomon Baptist Church in Detroit, said Jones has actually done the community a favor by uniting the various religious factions.
“Thank you for bringing us together,” William said as the audience all stood to applaud. “This is our time to go to work.”
Before and during the rally, hundreds of people signed a 50-foot-long banner that exhorted them to oppose Jones and remember the best parts of their faith.“We, as caring neighbors in southeastern Michigan, stand together in condemning the actions of those who spew hate and fear, and who misuse and desecrate holy books of faith,” read the banner.
The issue here is free speech versus public safety. Jones recently burned the Quran in Florida, an act that incited Muslim retaliation leading to 20 people’s deaths in Afghanistan. Jones says he won’t be burning the Quran in his Dearborn protest. Jones also said he would be armed with a pistol but is coming in “peace.” While Jones is entitled to free speech, he is not entitled to endanger the safety of other people and he is responsible for the cost of extra police if his hate speech is incendiary enough to necessitate extra police. The taxpayers shouldn’t have to fund riot police for his hate speech. The ACLU is monitoring the situation to ensure his free speech rights are protected.
As much as his behavior can enrage those who witness it, lessons can be learned here. Watching the way the religious communities are rallying together around their Muslim brothers and sisters is a great example of how to deal with hate while not denying free speech.
Hate speech such as practiced by Jones is an example of the lowest level functioning of human beings and sad to say, it’s not going away any time soon. Just like any miserable being, it craves to bring others down to its level; it desires reaction and distraction. Jones would like to bring his hate to Dearborn and disrupt a very workable and admirable cooperative mixed faith community.
But Jones isn’t going to get that satisfaction if the religious leaders of the area have any say about it. Instead, the religious leaders are forming stronger bonds of peace and mutual cooperation, and standing firm in directing their actions to meet the higher expectations of their faiths. This is how we deal best with hate. We show hate that it can’t win, it can’t infest us, and we are immune to it. We return hate with a strong bond that insists on respect and mutual tolerance. And most importantly, we condemn hate without succumbing to it.
It’s maddening that Jones wants to waste his life spreading hate in the name of Jesus. But here in America, he has this right unless he endangers public safety. We’ll see how the jury rules today. There’s nothing hate hates more than being met with immovable bonds of higher-minded intentions, because that’s when hate loses for real.
Image: Dearborn Patch
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majii
Apr. 22nd, 2011 at 10:30 am
Excellent reporting, Sarah!
I am so glad that Jones is receiving significant push back from the local judicial system and a united religious community. He is learning the hard way that what will “fly” in Jacksonville, FL won’t “fly” in Dearborn, MI. The religious community in Dearborn is definitely an example of “religious tolerance and interaction and a model for other communities.” It is also an example of the Establishment Clause as envisioned by the Founders.
english saddle
Apr. 22nd, 2011 at 1:00 pm
I love dearborn this makes me so mad but I’m proud as a peacock. Of them. Suck thus Terry.
Shiva (Moderator)
Apr. 22nd, 2011 at 1:40 pm
You live in Dearborn? I lived in Lapeer most of my life
english saddle
Apr. 22nd, 2011 at 3:11 pm
Gross pointe a while ago. Miss it a lot.
Cynthia Timko
Apr. 22nd, 2011 at 3:05 pm
Why on earth wouls Reverend (and I use the term loosely) need a pistol???!!!
Pure paranoia-hie amygdalaa is appaently nit finctioning too well,,,,
Reynardine
Apr. 22nd, 2011 at 10:32 am
If memory serves me, the holding in Terminiello dictated that a speaker’s tendency to incite the hatred and violence towards himself, by the expression of views however obnoxious, is not cause to suppress his speech. It is only his own incitement of immediate violence against others that justifies that (Beauharnais), and if I read it right, the Westboro case corresponded factually to Terminiello, not Beauharnais.
I would dearly like to stick a Super Pinky sponge rubber ball in this man’s mouth and send him bouncing down the road. But if restraint of speech or preventive fines are justifiable on anything less than a Beauharnais basis, all of us here are liable to being shut up, because our positions, though reasonable to us, drive a certain contingent out there to murderous fury. You may bet that if that sort of restraint becomes acceptable, it won’t be the troglodites who feel it first.
D. L. MacKenzie
Apr. 22nd, 2011 at 1:45 pm
I reluctantly agree. The ACLU defended the right of the KKK to hold themselves up to public ridicule on the basis that “constitutional guarantees of freedom of speech and press would be meaningless if the government could pick and choose the persons to whom they apply,” the same holds true for Jones, and for the Westboro Baptist Church, et al.
Oldsun
Apr. 22nd, 2011 at 11:22 am
“Jones also said he would be armed with a pistol” This is a problem if true where did he get the pistol? I he brought it with him did contact the ATF and tell he was crossing state lines with the pistol? Did he contact the sheriff’s department of the county he was going to and tell he had brought a pistol? Did get a temporary permit for the pistol? Failure to do any one of these things is a Felony in the federal government eyes.
Reynardine
Apr. 22nd, 2011 at 11:29 am
Fits in with the gun lobby’s pressing for national open carry laws, doesn’t it, Watson?
Katherine
Apr. 23rd, 2011 at 9:58 pm
It’s true. He has a license to carry a concealed weapon. Police found he had not violated any legalities when he brought it with him. He stored it properly on the plane, etc.
On Thursday night, while sitting in the passenger seat of his rental car after an interview, a gun went off. Turned out to be Jones’ gun. He accidentally discharged it while attempting to put it in the glove compartment after removing it from his person. It was done in front of a news crew standing just a few feet away from his car, and who later reported on it and recorded him on the phone explaining to his wife (dude has a wife??) what had happened. It was splashed all over Thursday night’s news.
Hrafnkell Haraldsson
Apr. 22nd, 2011 at 11:29 am
Nothing like taking your message of hate on the road. Glad to see those of actual religions (rather than ideologies of hate) gathering together to offer support for the First Amendment. Let’s not let pistols in the hands of demagogues frighten us off the guarantees of the Constitution. Great article, Sarah.
ah-clem
Apr. 22nd, 2011 at 11:30 am
Having lived in the Detroit area from the mid 80′s through 2000, I can vouch for the long cooperation of the Muslim, Christian and Jewish communities. I applaud their coming together on this issue. Piss-ant Jones does no one any good by opening his pie hole in Dearborn. This should show how evil Jones really is, and that rather than being driven by Christian concepts, it is in fact his on inflated and hate filled ego that that motivates him.
Shiva (Moderator)
Apr. 22nd, 2011 at 11:51 am
They are dealing with Jones the best way possible. Through collective decision making for solidarity. (how many times can YOU use both words in a sentence?)
Jones is not here for Jesus, he is here for attention and money. His history is very clear on that little note. He cares not that he got people killed with his actions, he cares about spreading a little hate and Im sure a book deal down the road. This guy is NOT a poor country preacher, he is a very well off person.
He may well be the devil device steeping into the devils den. Its not safe for man nor beast in Detroit. Drive through at high speed
Nicole473
Apr. 22nd, 2011 at 11:54 am
“Jones also said he would be armed with a pistol”
Okay. Where did you get this?
Last night on the local abc affiliate, Jones the moron said he would NOT be armed.
kerryann63
Apr. 22nd, 2011 at 12:00 pm
then he lied to abc – the moran shot a hole in the floorboard of his car this morning.
kerryann63
Apr. 22nd, 2011 at 12:02 pm
tpmmuckraker.talkingpoint...
Sorry – it happened Thursday evening – just after he left the abc studio
Nicole473
Apr. 22nd, 2011 at 12:26 pm
okay. Thanks, kennyann. :)
Reynardine
Apr. 22nd, 2011 at 12:03 pm
He has stated otherwise to the press; according to him, everyone wants to kill him, so he is armed for his own safety. Clearly, though, he does whatever he feels like, and duck anyone’s sentiments, rights, or safety.
kerryann63
Apr. 22nd, 2011 at 11:57 am
This won’t go over well at the hearing today: he shot a hole in the floor of his car this morning.
www.talkingpointsmemo.com...
Shiva (Moderator)
Apr. 22nd, 2011 at 12:02 pm
LOL thats hilarious!
Reynardine
Apr. 22nd, 2011 at 12:05 pm
He will argue, of course, that this wasn’t a gunshot at all; simply a mistimed explosion of his own caustic anal gas.
english saddle
Apr. 22nd, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Haha! These morons don’t have a clue.I think his anal gas is coming out at fox. That stuff carries.
Sally
Apr. 22nd, 2011 at 12:37 pm
There is a mosque planned for my town in Michigan. There has been some protest from neighbors, worried about calls to prayer, but this group will not be using them. Otherwise, it’s been a pretty peaceful process. Hope the anti-Christian, anti-human being ‘pastor’ doesn’t get wind of it. We don’t need his hate here. By the way, what does he care? Dearborn is a lovely city with tolerant people…you’d think he might celebrate true loving human beings instead of trying to incite hate, and with a gun?
Boscoe
Apr. 22nd, 2011 at 1:31 pm
Pure awesome, especially on Good Friday. Go Dearborn!
Thomas Paine We Need You
Apr. 22nd, 2011 at 1:57 pm
Well he was up at 4:30 must not have slept well seeing assassins around every corner. Typical of his paranoia. He is personification of the evil that Christianity is capable of when corrupted by ignorance and stupidity. Just as Islam is by those of the same criteria. Fundamentalism is usually very far from what the fundamentals are of the core beliefs of religions.
Thomas Paine wrote a book called The Age of Reason. It cost him dearly for speaking what he considered the truth about religion. Not about a belief in God which he had. He railed against all the second hand circumstantial evidence in the bible. He says if you want first hand proof of God walk out your door and look at what is here for us to use and live on. Everything is here for our existence without any terms of use, or rules, it is here and we exists.
Thomas Paine We Need You
Apr. 22nd, 2011 at 1:58 pm
It could be argued he is a danger to himself and the community at large. It may have been a way of chickening out too.
Moongal6
Apr. 22nd, 2011 at 3:17 pm
I often wonder (rhetorically), who finances these junkets that afford people such as Mr. Jones to attend and protest.
It’s similar to Joe the plumber, who paid for his trip to Israel? Who paid for him to travel about and spew this offensive rhetoric?
Anne
Apr. 22nd, 2011 at 4:02 pm
What a hateful moron Jones is! It’s more than enough of an atrocity that he chose to burn the Quran in his hometown, in spite of warnings that actions like that put soldiers servimg in countries like Iraq or Afghanistan at risk. But he took it to another level altogether by going somewhere that he’s not welcome and where Muslims live peaceably alongside their neighbors. He’s another hate-spewing carpetbagger like Sarah Palin, who got the cold reception he deserved. I hope he encounters the same lack of hospitality wherever he goes.