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Tolerance Wins Over Hate as Sisters Leave the Westboro Baptist Church
The granddaughters of Fred Phelps, Megan Phelps-Roper and her younger sister Grace Phelps-Roper, have left the hate group known as the Topeka, Kansas congregation of the Westboro Baptist Church. The sisters issued a statement Wednesday in which they revealed that they recently left the WBC.
The Westboro Baptist Church is infamous for their protests at the funerals of fallen soldiers’, desecrating the American flag, and threatening to protest the funeral of the Newtown Principal — all in the name of gay hate. Megan Phelps-Roper had been serving as the face of the organization over the last several years.
The sisters posted a statement on social media Wednesday titled, “Head Full of Doubt / Road Full of Promise” in which they wrote, “We know that we’ve done and said things that hurt people. Inflicting pain on others wasn’t the goal, but it was one of the outcomes. We wish it weren’t so and regret that hurt.”
In choosing to leave the WBC, the sisters have also lost their families. They write, “They now consider us betrayers, and we are cut off from their lives, but we know they are well-intentioned. We will never not love them.”
Megan Phelps-Roper told Jeff Chu of The Guardian that the seeds of doubt over her views were sown during conversations with an Israeli web developer, in which he pointed out that Jesus wanted people to have the opportunity to repent:
“My doubts started with a conversation I had with David Abitbol,” she says. Megan met David, an Israeli web developer who’s part of the team behind the blog Jewlicious, on Twitter. “I would ask him questions about Judaism, and he would ask me questions about church doctrine. One day, he asked a specific question about one of our signs—’Death Penalty for Fags’—and I was arguing for the church’s position, that it was a Levitical punishment and as completely appropriate now as it was then. He said, ‘But Jesus said’—and I thought it was funny he was quoting Jesus—’Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.’ And then he connected it to another member of the church who had done something that, according to the Old Testament, was also punishable by death. I realized that if the death penalty was instituted for any sin, you completely cut off the opportunity to repent. And that’s what Jesus was talking about.”
After researching and soul searching, Megan concluded to Chu, “The idea that only WBC had the right answer seemed crazy. It just seemed impossible.”
The Southern Poverty Law Center describes the church as a hate group, “Westboro Baptist Church (WBC) is arguably the most obnoxious and rabid hate group in America. The group is basically a family-based cult of personality built around its patriarch, Fred Phelps.”
Americans have stood together to obstruct the WBC, such as when 300 bikers rolled into Joplin, Missouri to protect the crowd from the WBC protesters.
Out here in the real world, the sisters are finding more of their old views debunked as well. Megan Phelps-Roper told The Star, “We’ve really appreciated the supportive words people have shared with us today. The environment we grew up in was very ‘us vs. them’; it’s been nice to see that the ‘them’ have been overwhelmingly kind — as we’d kind of hoped and suspected.”
This proves that there is hope for a certain segment of our population who’ve been brainwashed into hating gays, undocumented workers, minorities, women on birth control, and so much more. David Abitbol’s tolerance, patience and compassion planted the seeds that started Megan’s journey of questioning what she had been taught as the one right way.
The human spirit never ceases to amaze me; it takes great courage to be willing to endure the rejection of your entire family and it takes a lot of tolerance to continue conversing with someone whose views you might find repugnant. A head full of doubt led to a road full of promise for these two sisters.
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Shiva(Moderator)
Feb. 7th, 2013 at 1:22 pm
Knowledge, conversation, communication with the outside world are the worst things that hate groups fear. I am happy for these people, but I’m even happier that they’re leaving the church will indeed put a seed of thought into other members of the church. Sooner or later they will understand that the church they belong to is not acting according To the Way, Christianity says they should
This is exactly what would happen in the United States if we become a fundamentalist run country. We must fight to keep religion out of our government’s
RMuse
Feb. 7th, 2013 at 1:58 pm
So true Shiva. Many, many Christian groups forbid their members listening to any opinion other than their own, and the “sisters” are now apostates within the group. Thus, other members will be warned to stay away from them. I was a minister in a Christian faith, a big one, that decried higher education as the “road to perdition” and that even public schools corrupted kids into Satan-worship.
The Westboro sisters have a tough slog ahead and don’t be surprised if they wind up back and more committed to the hate cause than ever.
Reynardine
Feb. 8th, 2013 at 8:56 am
This is exactly what happened to a friend I used to have. She got recaptured, and a more spitting, hating, denunciatory creature you could not picture where a living human being once was.
robyn ryan
Feb. 7th, 2013 at 6:23 pm
Welcome to them.
Mark Phillips
Feb. 7th, 2013 at 7:04 pm
“Inflicting pain on others wasn’t the goal, but it was one of the outcomes.”
Maybe it wasn’t YOUR goal, but it sure as Helsinki was the goal of the trolls that run the Westboro Bat-sh*t Cult.
Reynardine
Feb. 8th, 2013 at 8:51 am
Helsinki sounds like what I have in my kitchen.
charlie
Feb. 7th, 2013 at 9:46 pm
Unfortunately, the deplorable actions of the WBC continue. It’s reported that their members will once again be polluting another memorial as mourners gather on Monday in Arlington, TX. to honor Navy Seal Chris Kyle. It’s probably a safe bet that the Patriot Guard Riders will once again be there as well.
www.examiner.com/article/...
It’s miraculous that these two women were able to break from the horrific influence of WBC. May they forever have the strength to persevere.
SinghX
Feb. 8th, 2013 at 7:27 am
OHMYGOD…where do I start?
There is so much more behind their decision and the story than is told (either by the media or two women); I have absolute “certainty” that their decision to leave is rooted in fear of the old man.
All it took was one conversation (with David) to push them over the top(?)…he did not “deprogram” them; they were already on their way out the door!
And, because of who they are in the public arena, they will be handled with kid gloves by one of the few “private retreats” that deal specifically with cult abuse…the only thing I can akin this to is when a spy defects; they will be swept away primarily for healing and then, debriefing–they will be “studied” by a crew of “specialist”. And not because of the church they left, but, because of the strong hold the “old man” has over his family. IMHO, other fundamentalist have been great admires what the old man has accomplished. They would love to learn how he created all the anarchy he’s orchestrated and his absolute control over followers.
Cults are very powerful to the people they “possess” and these two women had to have a “moment” (probably 6 months up to couple years ago) where they’re minds went “click”. I speak with “knowledge” on this topic–it is still, to this day, scary to acknowledge that I have interviewed “walkaways” (and more).
And, don’t discount that they may go return to the Church. They’re minds are reeling like the lyrics in the song “Alice” by Moby…
Shiva(Moderator)
Feb. 8th, 2013 at 8:04 am
I have to agree with Rmuse on this one, dont be surprised if they go back to the cult. I hope they dont
SinghX
Feb. 8th, 2013 at 4:45 pm
Huh???
That’s what I said; they could return, unless…
Whomever is ‘handling” the Phelps knows that these women must be isolated from any contact FROM the church/family. Cultist use trigger words, sort of like the “Manchurian Candidate”, to re-traumatize their followers causing them to fear those helping them; if old man Phelps gets their ear, they could suddenly bolt (and legally they can’t be stopped). If a walkaway stays isolated for 72 hours without wanting to contact the cult leader/family, then, the odds are much better that they’ve truly left for good.
These women were “raised” in this cult and know no other lifestyle; had they been recruited and joined, then they would have a better chance. There would be relatives, school-mates, old friends, etc. who could aid in the process of deprogramming. But, then again, one of Rev Moon’s daughters left and wrote a book on her life…the key to their survival is their individual resilience and, a support system void of major dysfunction.
They are a big “get” to walkaways all over the country. I’m certain these women will be handled with kid gloves; this may mortally wound the Westboro cult if these women survive…and talk.
djchefron(Moderator)
Feb. 8th, 2013 at 10:16 am
Even they try to do good the leadership says whoa there fells
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