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UN Vote Monitors Draw Outrage from the GOP’s Voter Suppression Groups
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Republicans hate the United Nations. They hate globalism and the world government that supposedly threatens to consume the freedoms Americans enjoy – at least before they themselves can strip them from us. Recent events aren’t going to make them happy.
They brought it on themselves.
The Hill reports that “International monitors at US polling spots draw criticism from voter fraud groups.”
United Nations-affiliated election monitors from Europe and central Asia will be at polling places around the U.S. looking for voter suppression activities by conservative groups, a concern raised by civil rights groups during a meeting this week. The intervention has drawn criticism from a prominent conservative-leaning group combating election fraud.
Of course, given that voter/election fraud groups is a conservative euphemism for voter suppression groups, it’s not surprising they’d bristle at the idea of UN observation.
Greta Van Susteren says if we can’t make our own eleections fair we ought to “hang it up.” In other words, what the hell is up with conservatives not being able to blatantly suppress the vote this year? Some other “Patriot” yokel thew up this headline: “U.N. Eurotrash Will Monitor Polling Places Around the U.S. for ‘Voter Suppression’.”
Glenn Beck’s The Blaze went with this headline, answering their own question: “U.N. PARTNER TO MONITOR U.S. ELECTIONS FOR VOTER SUPPRESSION BY…CONSERVATIVES?”
Yes Glenn, by conservatives.
Just to be clear, Tea Party groups plan to deploy their stromtrooper bullies on Election Day to suppress the vote under the guise of “protecting us” from electionfraud – you know: minorities voting.
It is a sad commentary on conditions in the United States that we actually need the UN to protect our rights; rights, ironically, conservatives claim the UN threatens.
I never thought, product of America’s Cold War might that I am, that the people of the United States would need the United Nations to protect us on our own soil from our own elites. That’s something that is supposed to happen in developing nations, what I grew up thinking of as the Third World.
But it’s real. The Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE), ironically enough a Cold War product like myself, will, says The Hill, “deploy 44 observers from its human rights office around the country on Election Day to monitor an array of activities, including potential disputes at polling places. It’s part of a broader observation mission that will send out an additional 80 to 90 members of parliament from nearly 30 countries.”
You can imagine how unhappy conservative voter suppression groups are to have witnesses to their act ivies on Election Day, especially from a group that specializes in this sort of thing. The OSCE says that they are “a leading organization in the field of election observation. It conducts election-related activities across the 56 participating States, including technical assistance and election observation missions.”
Good thing. Recent news tells me we’re going to need all the help we can get.
The United States is one of those 56 states. You can bet if Romney wins, that will no longer be the case.
The Hill reports:
The Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, the NAACP and the ACLU, among other groups, warned this month in a letter to Daan Everts, a senior official with OSCE, of “a coordinated political effort to disenfranchise millions of Americans — particularly traditionally disenfranchised groups like minorities.”
Predictably, “The request for foreign monitoring of election sites drew a strong rebuke from Catherine Engelbrecht, founder and president of True the Vote, a conservative-leaning group seeking to crack down on election fraud.”
Crack down on voting, you mean, given that Engelbrecht is excited about having thousands of volunteers suppressing the vote this year.. Yes, like Bulgaria, Romania, and Belarus, America, we do need the OSCE; we need them more than we have ever needed anything, this coming Election Day.
Engelbrecht whines that “These activist groups sought assistance not from American sources, but from the United Nations,” she said in a statement to The Hill. “The United Nations has no jurisdiction over American elections.”
Where else are they going to seek help from? They’re not going to get help from you, who are trying to silence their vote, who are seeking to disenfranchise millions of Americans so that a few rich white folks can put their surrogate in the White House.
The Hill points out that, “Neil Simon, director of communications for the OSCE’s parliamentary assembly, agreed the U.N. does not have jurisdiction over U.S. elections but noted all OSCE member counties, which include the United States, have committed since 1990 to hold free and democratic elections and to allow one another to observe their elections.”
Free elections the GOP has decided we don’t need after all. Trickle Down Economics has now become Trickle Down Voting Rights. The money doesn’t trickle down folks, and you don’t need me to tell you that the vote doesn’t either.
Breitbart.com, of course, is in a tizzy. “Dr. Susan Berry” storms:
News of the UN-affiliated observers comes one day after Breitbart Editor-in-Chief Joel Pollak reported that the United Nations Special Rapporteur on Counter-Terrorism and Human Rights has warned Americans not to elect Republican candidate Mitt Romney as the next president. Alluding to Romney’s refusal to ban waterboarding in interrogation practices of terror detainees, Ben Emmerson of the UN said that electing Romney would be “a democratic mandate for torture.”
We already know that this election will not be like any other election we have experienced. Because of Obama’s overwhelming willingness to apologize to the world for the supposed “sins” of the United States, he has furthered the cause of the United Nations becoming a global government. As the Romney-Ryan campaign continues to gain momentum, we can expect more input than ever thought imaginable from other nations and the UN regarding what the U.S.’s actions and decisions should be. It is also sobering to remember that, even if Romney wins the election, Obama will still be president until January, enough time to do yet more considerable damage.
If you peruse the web you will find comments like this from conservative readers (these were at The Yeshiva World News):
1. I think there is a joke in this article, but I don’t get it. We’re worried about conservatives cheating at the polls? How about all those Chicago-vote-early-and-often folks? How about those black panthers in Philadelphia in 2008? They sure guarded the polling places. Also, we seem to be asking the wolves to guard the henhouse! Maybe it takeh is a joke, but the joke’s on us, folks!!!
2. So is this what the UN spends its money on with our USA-provided taxpayer money??
3. #1, No, they’re concerned about conservatives trying to prevent cheating.
The usual. Despite the lack of evidence for voter fraud anywhere, conservatives acting in the finest traditions of cognitive dissonance, have convinced themselves that liberals are stealing elections through voter fraud. These fine readers have somehow missed all the news of Republican shenanigans since President Obama was elected.
The same goes for sites like Patriots for America, where the headline…
Is This Constitutional? – “International monitors at US polling places draw criticism”
…is followed by the question,
“Is this constitutional? If so, please explain how by referencing the U.S. Constitution only.
Twana
Unfortunately, folks, this “Twana” person is serious. She really wants you to explain how this can be constitutional, referencing only the U.S. Constitution. The U.S. Constitution isn’t going to mention the United Nations. They didn’t have the United Nations in 1789 (which I’m sure is a point “Twana” would raise. Rest assured, Twana, this is constitutional. Or do you perhaps not know what “observing” means?
Unsurprisingly, her readers are feeling, shall we say, typically aggressive and violent and would make Hitler proud:
with this action, every honest American citizen has been slapped in the face and betrayed yet again by a president who himself has made a complete mockery of our constitution since the first day he took office. this may get very ugly and my question is, will these monitors be just as willing to intervene every time they come across voter fraud at the polls by acorn and other liberals.
Yeah, okay, stupid question. Twana and her readers didn’t read the article, just the headline (see that all the time here, too, don’t we?) and they do not know what “observing” means.
The next one is the Nazi…er, I mean, Tea Party at it’s best:
I have read ing (sic) the Constitution and no where (sic) in it does it give any one (sic) authority to monitor our elections! If some faggot wearing U.S. Blue shows up at any polling station, feel frree (sic) to kick his ass on the spot!
These people are living proof that Americans need the UN. I think that along with sending mosquito netting to Africa, we need to send mirrors to Red States. When they ask “Why?”, all they will need to do for an answer is to lift up their mirrors and look into them.
And this comment captures conservative behavior perfectly:
If I go to the polls here in My district,and see even a HINT of intimidation,
I will come back and react in kind.
If I see even a HINT of a UN “observer”,well,violence,of course,will not be
necessary,but NO-ONE with tender ears will want to hear the dressing-down
I’ll hand the SOB,and there won’t be a damn thing he/she can do about it.
Have Me arrested?For what? Disturbing the peace,maybe?I’ll be out by morning,
I have an excellent lawyer.
This I promise.
Republicans are all in a tizzy over the origins of these vote monitors: places where icky brown foreign people come from. I dunno, reading the comments above I’ll pick the “icky brown foreign people” over icky yokels who marry their sisters.
Erica Ritz, at The Blaze, asked, “Though, really, what inspires more confidence in fair elections than representatives from Kazakhstan?” I would ask, “Though, really, what inspires less confidence in fair elections than representatives of the Republican Party?”
As a dear friend of mine said, “sickening freaks.”
Amen, sister.
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45 Responses to UN Vote Monitors Draw Outrage from the GOP’s Voter Suppression Groups
Paws
Oct. 22nd, 2012 at 9:03 am
I’m all for monitoring of our election. There are too many instances of voter intimidation and suppression and the American people who are eligible to vote, should be allowed to do so. Tales of voters being informed of the wrong election date, scams to vote by phone (which you cannot do), registration forms gone “missing,” etc., necessitate the need for international monitoring.
It kills me though that the country that claims it wants to spread democracy around the world would require election monitoring. How did we come to this?
Reynardine
Oct. 22nd, 2012 at 9:44 am
We came to this in 2000, but it has been long in the making.
Friedmanists, Randians, plutonomists, Dominionists-all- have realized that an enemy of their vision for society has been the general franchise. Both Friedman and the Citibank/Ajay memo have pointed out that, so long as a poor person’s vote counts as much as a rich one’s, the evil “little people” will (gasp) vote in their own self-interest, diverting resources which, in an unfettered “free market”, should be flowing upward, to things like public transportation, public schooling, public health, public nutrition, public police and fire protection. Dominionists know that, given a choice, most people are not going to want to live in the ugly, brutish way being dictated to them. Therefore, these worthy folk have decided, elections should first be reduced to a “pageant” (I cannot remember now whether it was Deborah Lipstadt or Flo Conway and Jim Siegelman who so quoted one of these worthies), and then eliminated altogether. Until then, though, it has to be assured that only the right people vote, or that certain elements of the wrong people (such as poor white males and women) be manipulated to vote right. Both the goals and the tactics of the Right Wing, however, are becoming all too apparent, so they are pulling out all the stops in this election, because if they lose it, they fear we’ll never give them another chance. If they win it, though, you may depend upon it they’ll never give us one.
Sandra
Oct. 22nd, 2012 at 11:47 am
If this article is true, then this Canadian says THANK GOD!!! If the Conservatives/Tbaggers get away with vote suppression, disenfranchisement and outright voter fraud, then it’s only a matter of time be it speads to Canada. Robo calls last election by Conservatives here started already.
Ken Blackwell of Ohio committed vote fraud in 2004, Politcolnews.com Oct.19th and the world is aware of the hanging chads fiasco/fraud in Fla 2000. The DOJ has to get tough on these criminals and jail them, that’s the only deterrent. Tagg Romney and his parents are now invested in a company that makes voting machines, WTH. Thanks UN.
Virginia Nancarvis
Oct. 22nd, 2012 at 8:52 pm
This U.S. citizen says thank God, too.
JTP
Oct. 25th, 2012 at 4:48 am
the un is beyond corrupt..obviously..
what a joke,..sierra leone was part of the commision on human rights abuses and that is all they do ver there abuse their citizens..r they monitoring abuses in syria or voters in iran?
police dpts around the country are now being ordered to escort them out as this is an enemy combatant in our mdst and the national guard us also being deployed to arrest them.
where were they when the back panthers and their billy clubs abused voters ? ooooh. missed those didn’t they!
never believed in arming ourselves …never but this is now the time to take up arms as this is an invasion.
god bless the usa. this is an act of war.
javadavis
Oct. 29th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
What was that we heard when electronic surveillance was promoted during the Bush II years? Something about ‘if you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to worry about.
By the way, JTP, the Caps Lock is on the left side of your keyboard – if you cannot get it off you need a new keyboard.
Beaglemom
Oct. 22nd, 2012 at 9:18 am
After the recent spate of voter suppression laws in this country I welcome the UN election observers. Let’s send them to Virginia, Florida and Ohio right away. They can also make stops in Pennsylvania and possibly a few other states as well.
I find it extremely interesting that the US political party that has traditionally wrapped itself up tightly in the flag has had to resort to outright sedition in Congress and illegal voter suppression legislation to feel even competitive in this election. Maybe if the Republicans had been behaving even moderately civilly in the past four years they would not have felt the need to resort to enacting laws that are repressive, regressive and suppressive on the eve of the 2012 presidential election. Oh I forgot – they’ve been into hijacking presidential elections in the past too – 2000 comes to mind all too easily.
No wonder the UN is thinking of providing observers. Welcome, UN observers.
A Walkaway
Oct. 22nd, 2012 at 12:54 pm
If I see a UN observer, I’m going to go up and thank them.
If I see someone from the ACLU or other freedom-supporting organization, I’ll thank them as well.
Cockroaches run from the light. Maybe if there are enough points of light, they’ll stay away enough for people’s votes to count.
Tommys_girl
Oct. 22nd, 2012 at 9:19 am
I’ve been thinking all along that Jimmy Carter should have the UN here to monitor this election – just like he’s done for other 3rd world countries to ensure they had an honest election. Too bad it’s come to this in our own country. Way too bad for the Republicans who started this mess. My heart pumps peanut butter to all of them.
buckeyewill
Oct. 22nd, 2012 at 10:06 am
WELL WHAT DID THEY EXPECT?????
When you act like a fascist thug, you will be TREATED as one.
I am ashamed and embarrassed that in a country that prides itself “land of the free, home of the brave” that this would come to this. Haven’t we settled these issues LAST CENTURY through the courts and Congress??? IT’S ALL THE FAULT OF THE TEA PARTY. You act like a fascist thug, you will be seen as one. They can wrap themselves around the American flag and clutch their crosses, and I still think they are a blight and embarrassment to our country.
Earl Warren, Martin Luther King, people in Congress,the courts, activists who made our country a little bit better with their rulings and actions must be turning in their graves while a bunch of fascists stain and tarnish the image of our country overseas. And they decide to complain after getting exposed???
Here’s hoping the Tea Party becomes a footnote in American History…like Bull Conner.
Sandra
Oct. 22nd, 2012 at 12:12 pm
To be fair buckeye..The Republicans are also party to this undemocratic behaviour 2000-2004 before the Tbaggers became such a force. Mitt Romey is phoning business’ telling them to encourage their employees to vote for him..that’s threatening employees, not encouragement. This type of disenfranchisement/fraud ocurred decades ago when poor whites, mainly farmers had to pay $4.00 to be able to vote, AAs had to count the # of jellybeans in jar etc. These practices were eliminated with the Voting Rights Act. The founding fathers and the Federalist Papers made a mistake giving responsiblity of election rights to States, in hindsight it should have been left to the Federal Government to set laws and dictate elections thus avoiding these blatant assault on democracty and citizens’ rights.
Ingrid Buxton
Oct. 22nd, 2012 at 10:17 am
To bad the election wasnt UN monitored in Florida in 2000 and in Ohio in 2004. Imagine a world where Gore had won, or Kerry.
Hrafnkell Haraldsson
Oct. 22nd, 2012 at 10:31 am
I think I would cry if I spent too much time thinking about that particular might-have-been, Ingrid.
Mary
Oct. 22nd, 2012 at 10:35 am
the repugs have no problems with redneck thugs monitoring and scaring away those who will vote for obama.
Yogi29073
Oct. 22nd, 2012 at 10:37 am
I have been staying on top of the voter ID law here in South Carolina, and, as of today, it can not be used.
I don’t think I am going to see much in the way of observers or Poll Watchers here in this state, it is solidly behind Romney.
What I have studied is the tactics “True to Vote” will use to gum up the works, which they did very successfully in Ohio in the past.
Watchers can challenge a vote to a voting manager.This stops the line till the challenge is handled. Because it holds up the line, the delay adds up to hours waiting in line to vote. The more challenges to voters, the longer the time to wait in line to vote. “True to Vote” has this tactic mastered, and in the swing states, expect huge delays in voting in precincts that vote Democratic because of challenges to all voters in line.
Note when these challenges to voter registration it takes time away from election boards lists were made. Close to the election! The closer the better:it gums up the works: because it takes away people needed to set up the required amount of booths necessary to accommodate the voters, the time is consumed in fruitless checks on valid lists and less voting booths are set up, mostly in democratic leaning districts.
If your vote is challenged, make sure that it is the voter manager that questions you, NOT the watchers, THAT’S ILLEGAL!! Watchers are NOT to approach or TALK to ANY voter, but present the challenge to the Voter Manager.
A trick to this, to beat the challenge is to get to the booth or wherever you are going to mark or plug your vote BEFORE you can be challenged. In that case, they CAN’T challenge your vote. So, check in with the voter registration, and head directly to the booth before anyone says anything to you, you make it to the booth before someone challenges your voter eligibility and your vote counts.
Study your voter laws, what a “watcher” or “observer”can do and be prepared.
Reynardine
Oct. 22nd, 2012 at 11:44 am
If you have any reason to expect trouble at all, carry a camera phone with you. If someone other than someone you know is a legitimate poll worker asks for your ID, demand theirs. If you are harassed in any way, photograph the harassers. In most states, you can also record conversations addressed to you in a public place. If it’s physically safe to do so, warn them on the record they are being recorded; if they continue the conversation after that, it’s perfectly legal to record it. If they try to tell you it’s illegal to photograph/record them, that’s a real red flag. Conversely, if somebody is taking pictures of people voting/marking their ballots *inside* the precinct in such a way that the voter may be recognized and the ballot read, report it to a precinct worker (news media taking pictures of the polling place as a whole should be identifiable, and they should not be so positioned that ballots can be read).
Dei Gratia
Oct. 22nd, 2012 at 10:43 am
We have organized a small group of patriots who will volunteer to go to our polling places to keep an eye out for the tea party voter intimidators; and challenge them if necessary! we will take video, have the police, the media and lawyers on speed dial; We vow to be the Dauntless Defenders of Our Democracy. Most have already voted early so we be available on Nov 6th at as many polling places as possible. We urge you to try to do the same in your corner of the country!!!
Reynardine
Oct. 22nd, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Dei, who is this “we?” A lot of us would likely join in this endeavor, but you have given us no contact. I am in Volusia County, Florida.
James Threadgill
Oct. 22nd, 2012 at 11:37 am
In the past 30 odd years all the economic and much of the social progress made since the Gilded Age has been wiped out by three GOP presidents, Reagan, Bush, Bush. Interestingly enough, these three are also responsible for the majority of the National debt.
Try telling that to GOPs and they first deny, think slink away when presented with the numbers. Facts are pesky things–especially for GOP types. They just cannot seem to get a grip on the difference between facts and supposition. Anything they want to believe, such as Dinesh D’Souza’s suppositional claims, is a FACT–they seem typographically compelled to shout when they believe it—and anything they don’t want to believe is ignored by any means necessary from head it sand to fingers in ears. Their idea of Voter Fraud is someone who acknowledges facts—i.e. disagrees with the Faux News driven GOP party line.
As turns it turns out they were actually right this time. Voter fraud is rampant, but they are ones doing it.
regressivewatch.org
Theodore Knapinsky
Oct. 22nd, 2012 at 11:52 am
Yes, we need foreign groups monitoring our elections because we can not monitor it ourselves.
Eykis
Oct. 22nd, 2012 at 11:55 am
For RePig Fascists, it is perfectly okay to lie, cheat intimidate voters through the likes of True the Vote and other Thuglican organizations.
I am very happy the UN will have monitors – they should monitor EVERY SINGLE SOUTHERN STATE in particular.
Rob McDonald
Oct. 22nd, 2012 at 11:59 am
I am glad the international community recognizes the influence the Republicans have over the American media, and are taking steps to protect themselves from the economic collapses the Republican party is so attracted to: www.norcalbeat.com/republ...
There last manipulation went world wide, and the world isn’t very happy about that.
Marcia
Oct. 22nd, 2012 at 12:01 pm
I live near the OH and PA borders. How do I sign up to monitor? Should I contact the UN?
Calma
Oct. 22nd, 2012 at 12:41 pm
As if the complainers are going to see poll watchers at THEIR polling places!
A Walkaway
Oct. 22nd, 2012 at 12:41 pm
We’re “Icky ‘brown’ people”, but not foreign. (Many of us aren’t really even “brown” unless we spend too much time in the sun.)
Other than that important point (we tend to get forgotten by everyone, unless we remind them we still exist), I hope some of those monitors will come to this area. While I’m hoping that there aren’t any of those jerks at our polling place (surprisingly, while it’s in a church, they are careful to not only obey the law, but friendly and don’t seem to care who or what you are), I wouldn’t put it past the dominionists of this county to send “monitors” to polling places where they can’t dominate.
In this county, I wouldn’t even be surprised to see deputies at the polling stations, to enforce the decisions of the Republican shoulder-strikers.
Despair
Oct. 22nd, 2012 at 1:25 pm
It is unfortunate that the delegation consists of only 44 observers.
I look forward to their report, regardless of the outcome of the election, but especially if Romney wins.
Bob Stillinger
Oct. 22nd, 2012 at 1:43 pm
I agree with all of your points but please drop the “nazi” language. This kind of Rushbeckian language only diminishes the message.
Hrafnkell Haraldsson
Oct. 22nd, 2012 at 1:57 pm
I understand your point and have had it pressed upon me before but I refuse to shy away from an accurate comparison not only of tactics but of ideology, however unpopular that comparison may be.
majii
Oct. 22nd, 2012 at 1:58 pm
I think the main reason some on the right are complaining so vigorously is because the onsite UN monitors will interfere with their plans to intimidate voters. I’m pretty sure that groups like “True the Vote” thought they’d be able to intimidate voters without suffering any backlash. The best way to make them aware that no shenanigans will be tolerated on election day is to have UN poll watchers, members of the ACLU, and other lawyers and individuals in place watching them. Hopefully, this will make them think before issuing a challenge to any voter about his/her right to cast a ballot on November 6. A key characteristic of bullies is that they don’t like being challenged/intimidated.
Lee Smith
Oct. 22nd, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Just FYI–The section of the United States Constitution that enables the United Nations to monitor our elections is Article II, Section 2, Paragraph 2, which reads: “He (the President) shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls.” This is an official treaty signed by the United States allowing monitoring of elections of ANY United Nations member. The resolution has been on the books for decades before this President was elected, thus it is not really about Obama at all.
Another posting by a Gene R Swank incorrectly notes (Article I) “section 10 3rd paragraph. no state shall enter into any agreement or compact with another state or with a foreign power!” Sadly, this is used incorrectly, since this part of the Constitution prohibits INDIVIDUAL states from making treaties (Florida declares war on Cuba, etc.). Just thought I’d weigh in and let everyone know what the correct answer was. Thanks.
Montag451
Oct. 22nd, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Long time lurker, first time poster.
I’m an English expat who lives in South America.
I’m really interested in the US elections because the global effect of the US actions should never be under estimated, especially now.
I would have thought the republicans would be overjoyed by watchers. They seem to profess to be very concerned about voter fraud, wouldn’t UN observers help to prevent it?.
I hope for the worlds sake President Obama is reelected. Romney would be a disaster for the plant.
Anne
Oct. 22nd, 2012 at 8:58 pm
While it’s a crying shame that the voter supressing GOP has brought us to this point, I am 100% for monitors to watch the intimidators. The GOP has always hated the United Nations, because of the bellicose, unilateral jingoism they have always brought to the issue of foreign policy and world affairs. Their win-at-any-cost mentality has been enormously destructive both to the political process and to the unity of the country as a whole.
dayglozoo
Oct. 23rd, 2012 at 9:28 am
Lee Smith is partially right about the Constitutional authority. Yes, Article II gives the President the authority to sign treaties. But what makes those treaties applicable is Article VI:
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land….
In other words, Twana, the treaties we sign with the United Nations have the same force and validity as the constitution itself.
Or to put it even more simply, Twana: Game. Set. Match.
Cthulhu
Oct. 23rd, 2012 at 9:42 am
Mitt Romney OWNS the 3rd largest voting machine manufacturer in the country, mahines that will be placed heavily throughout the important “swing” states.
And no one, not the GOP, the UN, the MSM, or anyone else who SHOULD be screaming about this is saying a stinking word.
If President Obama bought a voting machine company, the Rethugs would be storming the streets with torches and pitchforks (In their best white sheets of course.)
This election is rigged.
Lena Lambert
Oct. 24th, 2012 at 6:32 am
I agree why is no one saying anything about Romney and family having interests in these voting machines that just happen to be in the swing States imagine that!
Trish
Oct. 24th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Mitt Romney does NOT own the voting machine manufacturer …. wild online misinformation/disinformation/distortion is responsible for this latest theme. I think it is ridiculous for a UN related agency to be monitoring our elections like some third world country….they should have been in Venezuela a couple of weeks ago where voter fraud was obvious and rampant!! I fully support ongoing efforts to limit voter fraud by refusing “dead” voters, illegal aliens, foreign visa holders, and any other person not legally permitted to vote. For this reason, voter ID cards have a legitimate purpose and would be useful. My husband is an immigrant who experienced dictatorship and values his US citizenship ….. which includes his lawful right to vote in a free and legitimate election process. Those who have not lived in another country do not often fully appreciate what we have here ….. it often takes an immigrant to give us perspective …. and to feel the injustice of those attempting to unlawfully exercise a vote in our elections when they have no such right. We are the United States of America— the greatest country in the world— and should not have other countries (many with horrendous voter fraud) holding court on our elections.
John G.
Oct. 25th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Have you all listened to yourselves? Voter suppression? Having an international organization monitor US elections? You know what, you all think this country is so crooked and awful to live in – go to Europe, go the Midde East, wherever but to call yourself a US citizen is an insult to all of those who believe in this country and for those who have died to let ignorant people like you express stupid opinions and thoughts. I rarely will write words like this but reading through these comments makes me so angry at those of you who do not understand freedom and what a blessing it is to live in this country. Please leave and go to those places that are so much better than here. I still can’t believe how many of you support the UN being here…there are not words to express how I feel…we have become a sad nation…
Shiva (Moderator)
Oct. 25th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Another hilarious cliche speech from an uneducated cretan
Ann
Oct. 27th, 2012 at 2:25 am
You say that like any American who wants to can just pack up one morning and move anywhere else in the world they feel like. If it were that simple I know a lot of poeple who would’ve done so gladly.
The fact is it isn’t that simple. All countries monitor and limit immigration in some way because of the potential effects on the economy (among other things). This alone means the only way a person can just pack up and move is if they have enough money that they don’t have to worry whether they’ll be able to work.
That is the subset of our population who are benefitting the most from living here – while those who are getting screwed over and realize it also realize their only hope is to make changes here – because they quite literally *can’t* leave. I think it’s pretty reasonable to welcome outside help once you understand that help is needed and you have no way to provide it.
John G.
Oct. 25th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Dang Shiva, you caught me. I am so embarrassed…Shiva – please go live with the educated people you love so much that must not be in the US.
Shiva (Moderator)
Oct. 25th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
It was easy. You know nothing about the voter suppression movement in the GOP and you are trying to post about it.
We monitor other countrys election, they monitor ours. This is not new. Its only new to you becuase you support voter suppression and the GOP told you to be upset.
Please move along, You are just another cliches poster. You need to know what you are talking about to pass BS along
Sonia
Oct. 27th, 2012 at 12:08 am
You liberals are mentally insane. Forget voter suppression (which hasn’t happened since the 1960′s). You people need to be driven out of the country. You want to give our country to an international body. You are asking for a civil war by inviting the UN onto our sovereign soil. This is the last straw people.
Anne
Oct. 27th, 2012 at 1:26 am
Voter suppression is a very real problem. When there are states like Ohio where the Secretary of State John Husted tried to deny early voting to anyone but military personal, or like Virginia where someone was recently arrested for destroying registration forms for prospective Democratic voters, or purging legal voters from the rolls like in Florida, only someone immersed in denial, ignorance, or both would believe otherwise. And it’s the Republican Party that is involved in these antics. Calling liberals names does nothing to change these realities, and it’s a good thing folks are fighting back.
Michael
Oct. 27th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
It seems to me this will only escalate into a full civil war and riots. There is no way in hell we need UN monitors. If you think these people are neutral, you are delusional. The only reason you liberals invited them in is because they will back your whacky cause, and you know it. Otherwise you would have asked Americans to watch Americans.
If these people are seen anywhere near the polls, who can tell what disturbances might break out. I don’t want to see anyone hurt, but it will happen unless you libs wake up and stop this one-world dream you all seem to have.
ed harrison
Oct. 29th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Voter suppression?
This coming from Democrats? It would be funny if it werent so very sad!