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Wayne LaPierre Gets so Crazy that Even Fox News Calls Out His BS
Wayne LaPierre went so far off the crazy cliff today that even Fox News had to call out his conspiracy laden BS.
Here is video of the interview (Note: audio is not in synch):
LaPierre was in full blown crazy mode. When Chris Wallace brought up Supreme Court Justice Scalia’s opinion in the Heller decision that the Second Amendment is not unlimited, LaPierre said, “We have all kinds of reasonable laws right here, the NRA supports, that they enforce them in Chicago and cut crime. But for the most right is to protect yourself, and the American public wants to be able. Semi-automatic technology has been around for a hundred years. If you limit the American public’s access to semi-automatic technology, you limit their ability to survive. If someone’s invading your house, I mean you shouldn’t say you only have fix or six shots. You ought to have what you need to protect yourself, not what some politician thinks is reasonable.”
Chris Wallace played a clip of the NRA ad that uses the president’s kids, and LaPierre’s reply spoke volumes about how far over the cliff the NRA has gone,
LaPierre: The point of the ad is this. It wasn’t picking on the president’s kids…The president’s kids are safe and we’re all thankful for it.
Wallace: They also face a threat that most children do not face.
LaPierre: Tell that to the people of Newtown.
Wallace: Do you really think that the president’s children are the same kind of target as every school child in America? That’s ridiculous, and you know it, sir.
LaPierre: You know unfortunately, I think there are parents all of the school, I mean all over the country that think their kids are entitled to the same amount of protection when they go to school.
Wallace: So they should have Secret Service?
LaPierre: No, but what they should have is police officers, or certified armed security in those schools to keep people safe. If something happens, the police time, despite all their good intentions is 15-20 minutes. It’s too long. It’s not going to help those kids. Certified armed security in schools just like…
Wallace: But that isn’t going to protect them in the shopping mall, in the movie theater, on the street.
LaPierre went on a rant about gangs, and Wallace said mass shooters weren’t in gangs. Wallace then called out LaPierre for attacking the “elites” who have armed security, when he has armed security.
Wayne LaPierre and the NRA have officially gone so far off the rails that even Fox News had to call them out. Wallace gave LaPierre every opportunity to sound reasonable, but he couldn’t stop himself from jumping off the crazy cliff. What the NRA is doing is running a fear campaign. Their whole argument about fantasy intruders who are apparently armed with assault weapons invading YOUR home is meant to scare the holy heck out of the American people.
The whole idea that personal survival is dependent upon access to semi-automatic technology would be laughable if it wasn’t so sad.
The more desperate the NRA gets, the crazier their arguments against gun control become. LaPierre broke out the tin foil hat conspiracy fears that universal background checks would lead to some sort of national government database of law abiding Americans. It is obvious that the NRA is losing, so they are throwing all of their arguments against the wall and hoping something sticks.
The NRA is so far gone that even Fox News is telling them to cut back on the crazy. That is really all you need to understand about which side is currently winning the debate on gun control.
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28 Responses to Wayne LaPierre Gets so Crazy that Even Fox News Calls Out His BS
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Phil Perspective
Feb. 3rd, 2013 at 12:54 pm
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Carol Schmidt
Feb. 3rd, 2013 at 1:18 pm
I don’t own a gun of any kind at this time. I am a liberal democrat & I believe in the right to bear arms. With that said, I have had background checks performed multiple times just to obtain employment in an everyday job. I cannot see why it is such an issue to require it to purchase a firearm no matter who you purchase it from. It not only protects the purchaser, but the seller as well. We require licensing of all vehicles, so I see no reason to not require it of all guns. Where is the common sense here?
Background checks will not solve all the issues people have about guns, but it will help keep many lethal weapons out of the hands of unstable or criminal individuals. A lawful person should have no problem with regulating ownership.
When I purchase a firearm I will be glad to give any information required to register it including a background check. Freedom does not mean you can do anything you want. It is our responsibility to protect all our citizens rights. That means abiding by the laws we create for that protection. Its what makes America great. The constitution is a great vision meant to encompass all threats to the USA as a whole as well as the individual. It is our responsibility to uphold that vision. It’s called Democracy. By the people & for the people.
Yan
Feb. 3rd, 2013 at 8:08 pm
The problem isn’t that there are no background check ks, the problem is the enforcement. There are cases where background checks have been effective, but also ineffective. You can find. Other cases on your own leisure. The biggest problem would be a universal background check system. All this would create is a huge bureaucracy, which would cost too much money and resources as well as only producing too small of a result. Don’t take my word for it. Do the research and see if I’m wrong or right.
Shiva(Moderator)
Feb. 3rd, 2013 at 10:09 pm
The problem is also states with very lax gun laws. Thats who feeds places like chicago
lm945
Feb. 4th, 2013 at 4:18 pm
Why is the argument about something the Right disagrees with usually about money?
You don’t think it’s worth spending a few extra dollars to keep our children safe? Don’t you think they’re worth it?
djchefron(Moderator)
Feb. 4th, 2013 at 4:43 pm
Ferengi rules of aquisition
#3. Never pay more for an acquisition than you have to.
Micheal G Groshong
Feb. 3rd, 2013 at 8:11 pm
We live in a republic which is very different from a democracy although certain democratic principles apply or should – the US Senate is a notable exception. There are others.
Anne
Feb. 3rd, 2013 at 1:22 pm
We now know more than enough about Wayne LaPierre and his supporters to know that they have absolutely nothing of value to contribute to a necessary conversation about sensible gun controls. Giving him a chance to continue spewing his reality-denying, self-centered rhetoric is conferring a completely undeserved dignity on a proven nutcase who has proven to be only about the profits from gun sales for gun manufacturers. It speaks volumes that even FOX is starting to acknowledging his obvious lunacy.
Lori
Feb. 3rd, 2013 at 1:27 pm
I wonder if LaPierre thinks Gayle Trotter is “elite,” “powerful” & “privileged.”
“I think there are parents all over the country that think their kids are entitled to the same amount of protection when they go to school,” LaPierre declared. “It’s ridiculous, Chris, for all the elites, for all that powerful and privileged and the titans industry to send their kids to schools where there’s armed security, to have access to semi-automatic technology, to have access to [high-capacity] magazines…”
Yes, well. This is all very easy for [Gayle] Trotter to say, because she doesn’t send her six children to public school. No, her children go to to Beauvoir School in Washington DC, where tuition is $31,250 per year, per child. (I hope there’s a group discount.) One of the “perks” of attending Beauvoir School? Armed guards patrolling the grounds, evidently.
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Deanne
Feb. 3rd, 2013 at 5:33 pm
And Trotter, like Bozo LaPierre, believes it to be safe with an armed guard at the schools. Her kids had the luxury of having an ‘armed guard’ at their school — that said ‘keeping them safe’ armed guard who threatened and held hostage his estranged girlfriend who was a first grade teacher at the same school as the armed guard where Trotter’s kids went to. Ending of the story — they both ended up dead.
Everyone should have a ‘keeping them safe’ armed guard at their school like that — NOT.
Reminds me of a few weeks ago where an ‘armed’ but supposedly not loaded gun (yearightsure) of a retired cop who forgot his gun in the school kid’s washroom. Brilliant — freaking brilliant.
Every tom, dick and flipping mentally unbalanced moron is signing up to guard schools to ‘keep your kid safe’. NO THANKS.
Gindy51
Feb. 3rd, 2013 at 1:43 pm
Karl Rove, NRA and cash:
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Reynardine
Feb. 3rd, 2013 at 6:52 pm
I followed the link, and am more convinced than ever that the NRA is in the business of arming and priming Brown Shi(r)ts to win power for the Ultra-Right, if the ballot and corruption cannot.
Helen Beasley
Feb. 3rd, 2013 at 4:57 pm
This children are going to school with the fear that they are going to get shoot!!!!! You want then to put arm guards at the schools, what are these children going to grow up thinking, that they are always in danger. And that is the way to life. Mr. NRA, you are the problem. The reason a person needs an assualt weapon is to kill someone. That is MURDER! If you can’t kill a deer with two shots, you don’t need to go hunting. You Dumb-Ass…Eliminate assualt Rifles and we won’t have a problem.You are in you own worlds and tha’s not how I want to live.
Scott
Feb. 3rd, 2013 at 5:06 pm
Wayne LaPierre…..You are a crazy person. You are the mentally ill we should be worried about.
UncaJoe
Feb. 3rd, 2013 at 5:41 pm
If one has to register to vote, a constitutional guarantee, why should one not be required to register their guns?
djchefron(Moderator)
Feb. 3rd, 2013 at 5:46 pm
stop making sense
Micheal G Groshong
Feb. 3rd, 2013 at 8:08 pm
This interview provides ample reason why gun control is so necessary in this country. Mental health background checks should be mandatory among other things.
majii
Feb. 3rd, 2013 at 8:09 pm
I loved the part of the interview where Chris Wallace busted LaPierre’s claim that Sidwell has armed guards. Wallace told him his kids had attended Sidwell, and there were no armed guards. I researched Sidwell and discovered that the security is provided by unarmed parent volunteers. I was also happy to see Wallace mention that LaPierre had a security detail when he testified before the Senate committee last week.When Wallace revealed this information, all LaPierre could do was sputter and mention that he’d received threats. His security detail was so out of control that its’ members were pushing journalists around and frisking them. Some members of Congress had to tell LaPierre that those kinds of things aren’t allowed in either house of Congress. I’ve noticed that LaPierre and his supporters talk a lot about their freedom, but they never, ever realize that some of us think that they are infringing on our freedom to live in a society where we can go to the movies and the mall without having to worry about being mowed down by someone bearing an assault weapon or gun with large clips. To this day, no one knows why Jared Loughner, James Holmes, or Adam Lanza used weapons with large clips to kill innocent, law-abiding Americans, some of them kids. They took the most important thing the individuals they killed had–their right to live. I consider the right to be safe and live out one’s life to be more important than anyone’s right to own any type of weapon.
Open Minded
Feb. 4th, 2013 at 12:41 am
I can’t help but notice that this isn’t about the NRA or Obama or any other group desperate for the limelight …it’s about all of us! No matter what laws are put in place there will always be people to find ways around them. I’ve been in the security industry for 25 years and have visits tons of schools with proper access control systems in place to keep the unwanted out. I mean lets be real people are talking about incompantant security but the solution to that is to require hours of training much like a pilot, or and officer on the range. I as a parent have the same concerns as any other parent but I’m not opposed to armed security at schools, I just don’t want to see a 80 year old man/woman who has no training. Make it a requirement to renew the guards license every 2 years ans require qualifications that must be met to renew their license. This is just a very small crumb of the possible solutions. How are these people accessing these weapons? From others! Gun safes and alarm monitoring of these safes, biometrics requiring the owner of the weapon to allow the weapon to function..I’m just throwing ideas out. I posses rifles in my home…I have children…but I as a parent take ever measure possible to secure my weapons from my children and anyone else. The thought of anyone getting hurt especially a child makes me sick!!! I just don’t want to play the politics game. A person can do just as much damage with several 10 round magazines as with one 30 round magazine! Bottom line is with all this damn technology we have you can’t integrate biometrics in a weapon?! And of course I’m referring to civilian weapons. We do it with laptops and they aren’t worth a sh** compared to a device that can take a life. I don’t require a 30 round magazine to protect my family, but the real issue here is the word “Assualt” rifle which I classify as a “Fully automatic” weapon. No laws will ever take these weapons off the streets! Just like access to drugs will always…
Cyndi
Feb. 4th, 2013 at 12:14 pm
I like how he thinks its unamerican to have a national registry of gun owners but it’s okay to have a national registry of people who have had mental health care.
I love how he says rounding up the gangs will fix the problem but then the reporter says that the mass murderers of late weren’t in gangs and LaPierre about choked on his tongue trying to rebut that statement.
Joe
Feb. 4th, 2013 at 2:46 pm
Having read all the comments the prevailing thought seems to be less guns less violence. England has an almost complete gun ban and they have more violent crimes per capita than the US. Australia has an almost complete gun ban and they have more violent crime per capita than the US. Canada started a gun registry over 10 years ago that was supposed to cost 300 million to implement. Almost 2 trillion dollars later they are throwing it out as unmanageable. The most violent cities in America have the strictest gun laws. Until you can get criminals to obey the law you can make a million laws and it won’t stop them. We have over 20,000 gun laws on the books, how about they get enforced? Why is it that Mayors are going after ammunition makers but they don’t do a thing about companies that make and distribute alcohol? We have laws to keep drunk drivers off the roads, doesn’t stop em. A gun is no different, most gun owners are very responsible, you might be suprised at who might be standing next to you with a gun and there will be no problem. Look at the FBI statistics before saying guns with large magazines are the biggest problem. A criminal or disturbed person is not going to be detered because we have a law making it illegal to do what they plan to do….
Steve Miller
Feb. 4th, 2013 at 8:16 pm
Joe Joe Joe – There Ya Go Again
As a Canadian and responsible Gun Owner. Let me tell you what actually happened to the Gun Registry
You Wrote … “Canada started a gun registry over 10 years ago that was supposed to cost 300 million to implement. Almost 2 trillion dollars later they are throwing it out as unmanageable.”
You do realize that 2 Trillion Dollars is 2,000 Billion Dollars or 2,000,000 Million Dollars. That would be cost over run of 1,999,700 Million Dollars. Or one that would make only a Republican like you or Dick Cheney and Haliburton happy. Oh Yeah – the size of the Canadian Economy is only $1.4 Trillion a Year. So first things first – Like all Right Wingers in the USA – Don’t Let facts get in the way of your rant.
A minority of the electorate in Canada – 30 percent of those that voted – elected a Conservative Neo Republican Light – Prime Minister.
Stephen Harper then dissolved the Gun Registry. We will dispatch with him and his conservative party in the next election. When a leader over- reaches in Canada – we banish them for a decade or more. It happened to the Conservatives here in 1993 and they were banished until 2006. We will send them to the woodshed again for over a decade. Maybe two.
You should try that with Wayne Lapierre and the NRA. I see Alaska Snookie Sarah Palin and Christine O’Donnell have got on their brooms and joined Lapierre. You know you are lost in the woods when Fox News doesn’t like your position
When Americans Love their Kids More than their Guns – The Slaughter Will End.
Remember Sandy Hook
lm945
Feb. 4th, 2013 at 4:15 pm
LaPierre got out of serving in Vietnam because he was diagnosed with a “nervous disorder.”
Is he afraid a background check will show he’s too unstable to own guns? Or that his family paid off the family doctor to keep him out of the military?
Robert
Feb. 5th, 2013 at 3:38 am
I think that by this point law abiding citizens of the United States that keep and may bear arms and have never broken any laws or safety customs are feeling a lot like the Jews during the Spanish Inquisition. I mean it has gotten unreal and well anchored in fantasy land complete with name calling, fabricated stats and just outright lies.
Most amazing, perhaps is that the front for the attack on the Bill of Rights consists of a war profiteer senator and a nobel peace prize winner who bombs children with drones.
And the motive for the whole scheme, which has suckered so many people in is the media trying to regain control of the country after assuring Carl Rove and friends that they could get Romney into the White house, then failed to do so after burning up $300 million. Finding it a little ahrd to justify the high prices they are.
djchefron(Moderator)
Feb. 5th, 2013 at 7:06 am
Huh?
Joe
Feb. 5th, 2013 at 4:09 pm
Steve Miller, My apologies, the correct amount of the registry by 2012 was 2.7 Billion( I was obviously thinking in American where eveything seems to cost trillions). Part of the problem with the long gun registry was, what you find in almost all government programs, mismanagement and unreliable data. The RCMP testified to the auditor-general that they could not rely on it( the long gun registry) in court. too many inaccuracies.
Steve your quote ” So first things first – Like all Right Wingers in the USA – Don’t Let facts get in the way of your rant.” You are assuming I am a ‘Right Winger”. I doubt my friends would agree with that. The ‘Facts’ show that strict gunlaws do not prevent violent crimes. You go right ahead and dispatch your Conservatives and reinstate the registry and spend another 2.7 Billion to get a registry that does not prevent any violent crimes.
Shiva(Moderator)
Feb. 5th, 2013 at 4:19 pm
Strict gun laws in some places and not in others does not stop crime. Not when you can go to a state, but 100 weapons and take them to Chicago and sell them.
Thats the facts. The fact is, we need the same gun laws in every state
texican
Feb. 11th, 2013 at 12:26 pm
Is it wrong to point out that us common citizens wish to have our children protected just as securely as the president does his own? Hypocrisy raises it’s ugly head, when those with full time security details wish to deny ‘us’ of our security details, mainly ourselves.
The NRA video made plain common sense to average Americans… why should those for gun control have armed guards? If they’re not hypocrites, they should disarm their security details, and have them armed with “DHS Approved” scissors.
Fantasy intruders, eh? Well, let’s just say that it isn’t a fantasy intruder. (Isn’t it nice that we have zero crime in this country… no armed robberies, no burglaries, no rapes…) If you do find yourself in a situation (that oh so never happens) when some disadvantaged misunderstood Democrat with a knife, or shudder, a gun, and wishes to rape and or kill you or your children, will you do the politically correct progressive thing to do, and accept your victimhood on the altar? or, will you scream into your phone, frantically dialing 911, for someone, anyone, to show up with a big pair of scissors (DHS approved, remember) or possibly, a firearm, to save you and yours from going into ‘that good night’?
Remember, it’s all just a fantasy, till it happens to you, then it’s a fact. Of course, it’ll remain a fantasy, because, once again, we all know that crime does not exist, especially in large cities ran by progressives. And, all criminals obey the laws, like those signs that say ‘gun free zones’.