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New Years Beatdown: Wasserman Schultz and Weiner Destroy Michele Bachmann
On CBS’ Face The Nation today Democratic Representatives Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Anthony Weiner squared off with Republican Reps. Michele Bachmann and Mike Kelly and gave us a preview of the fireworks that we can expect during debate in the new Congress. While Bachmann and Kelly kept repeating campaign talking points, the message from the Democrats was simple. You won, and now your asses are on the line.
Here is the video from CBS News:
Rep. Bachmann was first up on the show, and she made the claim that the message from the 2010 was that the American people want less government spending specifically on things like unemployment benefits. While talking about the tax cut compromise Bachmann said, “It also blows a $111 billion hole in the Social Security trust fund. There is no money in that trust fund, so they have to go to the general treasury, where there’s also no money. That means an additional borrowing for that $111 billion in addition to the $57 billion for unemployment. So we’re continuing to go down the road that we’ve gone down before, which is spending money that we don’t have. That’s really I think one of the strongest messages we took away from the election in November.”
Democratic Rep. Anthony Weiner joined the discussion and immediately started holding Republican feet to the fire, “I mean, many of them campaigned on the idea of privatizing Social Security. They campaigned on the idea of making Medicare a voucher program so seniors don’t have guaranteed health care. I want to see what it is they’re in favor of. We heard about what they’re against in this campaign. I don’t know what they’re in favor of. We Democrats are prepared to work with them where we can, but we’re going to challenge them and fight against them where we must. It is not a subject of compromise for many democrats, privatizing social security. We don’t believe that’s a good idea. Eliminating Medicare as a guaranteed benefit for seniors– we don’t agree with. Those fights are going to happen.”
Freshman Rep. Mike Kelly was there to play the role of Republican self-made man and Washington outsider. Kelly’s orders apparently were to portray the GOP bringing the “real world” to Washington, “I don’t think for an average guy the common guy who comes from a private sector, running something $14 trillion in the red is not impressive…I’m looking to really go to work and work very hard. I’ve worked hard all my life. I’ve done it with my own money. I’ve had my own skin in the game. I’m kind of interested to seeing when you get in a situation where it’s not your money. You can spend anything you want. Keep raising the debt ceiling as much as you want, because you don’t have to worry about paying it back. It’s hard for me to think that that’s all right to do with the American people.”
Democratic Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz then basically told Kelly that it is time to dump the campaign rhetoric, “What remains to be seen is whether members like Mike Kelly are going to be able to turn their essentially campaign rhetoric into some kind of reality, because with all due respect to his response, there isn’t any there there. We haven’t heard any concrete proposals…We’ve only heard attacks on what they don’t like.”
When asked about raising the debt ceiling Mike Kelly went back to his talking point about being a real world adult who pays his own way. He also claimed that revenue doesn’t come from raising taxes, “You know, speaking as an adult who has always paid his own way, I do understand what happens and raising the debt ceiling to me is absolutely irresponsible. We’ve been spending money for so long that we don’t have. It’s okay. We’ll just raise taxes and find “tax revenue comes from people who are working, people who are profitable. It does not come from raising tax rates.”
Michele Bachmann’s answer to the debt ceiling question was to plug her website and complain that it isn’t fair that Democrats are holding Republicans accountable, “Now, they’re standing back folding their arms saying, ‘oh, taunting us how are you going to go ahead and solve this big’ it’s fine when they have the credit card and they’re spending money.” Mike Kelly chimed in with more adult real world nonsense and was slapped down by Anthony Weiner, “Congressman Kelly, now you are one of those folks. It is your job in the majority party to govern. The first thing the republicans did when they took back the House the last time is they drove the government to a shutdown. I guess, from what I’ve heard Michelle say and you say, that’s what’s going to happen again. All the “you” stuff has to end today.” Bachmann responded by claiming that the Republicans don’t want to shut the government down.
On the topic of the deficit, Debbie Wasserman Schultz reminded everybody the Republicans who now claim to deficit cutters are the ones who ran up the debt in the first place, “Let’s remember the deficit was exploded by Republicans. President Bush inherited a record surplus and turned it interest a record deficit. Two wars unpaid for. A prescription drug plan unpaid for.” After Anthony Weiner pointed out that Republicans don’t believe in guaranteed Social Security and Medicare benefits, Michele Bachmann’s response was to whine to guest host Harry Smith, “Harry, Anthony continues to make these statements.”
When asked about healthcare, Rep. Kelly’s response was to talked about, you guessed it, how he is a self-made man from the real world, and finally Weiner had enough and said, “This real world stuff is going to get old really fast. This is now your job… This is a serious business here trying to figure out how to solve big problems. Social security does have to be paid for. Medicare does have to be paid for. But this idea like ‘the real ‘…”
Kelly tried to tell Weiner that he knew nothing about the real world, “In your life, you have never done everything on your own with your own skin in the game. I respect the fact that you’re an elected congressman, I do not …” Weiner replied by reminding Kelly that he too is an elected congressman, “What do you mean I am. We are. You’re part of this now.”
The roles have now officially been reversed. For two years, as the House minority Republicans were able to sit on the sidelines and criticize everything that the Democrats did without having to offer alternatives. Bachmann and Kelly didn’t like it when they were reminded that they are now the Washington insiders and the majority, and they are now expected to solve the nation’s problems too. Notice that neither Republican proposed a single idea in the whole 15 minute segment. Mike Kelly seems to be under the delusion that he is on the campaign trail, and Michele Bachmann was trying to generate traffic to her website.
Both Bachmann and Kelly seemed to be under the delusion that they can continue on with what they did during the campaign, or in Bachmann’s case, the previous two years. They don’t seem to understand that they are actually expected to govern now. No matter how many times they talked about deficit reduction or the real world, they appeared to be completely out of touch with reality. In the real world people want Social Security, Medicare, and unemployment benefits. Only in ideological Republican Land are these things evil.
It will be interesting to see how the self-styled real world man Mike Kelly runs for reelection in two years when he is the incumbent Washington insider. The American people should not be surprised that they placed control of the House of Representatives in the hands of an intellectually bankrupt party that has no solutions to offer on any issue. Republicans have been coasting on the fumes of Reaganism for over a decade now. People like Bachmann and Kelly are who voters decided to put in charge. All I can say to that is, good luck, America. You’re going to need it.
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dani
Jan. 2nd, 2011 at 4:10 pm
Govern like grown ups? The gop? Not going to happen. They are children sucking off big government welfare for the morally impaired!
juicyfruityy
Jan. 2nd, 2011 at 4:18 pm
I have been wondering what the Democrats would be like in this year’s Washington turn of events (New House Leader). Or, what the next 2 years would be like for us. I would like to see the Democrats strong and united and get the job done. The first 2 years was just physically draining.
The Republicans still have not learned that problems requires solutions. Not just the same old dried up talking points. They can’t continue to be the party of “NO”.
Good article, Mr Easley.
Jtl
Jan. 3rd, 2011 at 10:41 am
Republicans deflect and whine and lie because they do not know how to govern!
Wanted to watch this but can not abide bachman…Schultz and Weiner , I knew would take care of them!
Thanks for reporting the essentials! Clueless gop!
Sarah Jones
Jan. 2nd, 2011 at 4:23 pm
It seems to me as if the Democrats have actually managed to gather up a few talking points (relevant tps at that!) and stay on message! If this is any indication of how they’re going to handle the next two years, I must say I’m impressed. Though they did put their two best forward on this one (or at least the creme of the crop).
Jtl
Jan. 3rd, 2011 at 10:46 am
Who do you consider the Creme de la Creme for the House Dems…??? Weiner and Schultz are the greatest at putting the point on obfustication by repubs.
Kelly seems to have little ‘skin in the REAL world game’… This is real problems–that need real solutions! Not platitudes and talking points!
They made them both whine—United we stand!
Scott Rose
Jan. 2nd, 2011 at 4:27 pm
Did Kelly “pay his own way” when he attended public schools, or when he got an automatic entry into his father’s automobile business?
majii
Jan. 2nd, 2011 at 4:37 pm
Thanks so much for this post, Jason since I cannot bear watching “conservatives” get on teevee, push their talking points, and do nothing after the cameras are off. It”s put up or shut up time for them, and I will be watching to see how Judson Phillips and the rest of the tea party folks react to republicans as they continue voting for legislation that benefits the richest Americans, Big Oil, and Big Business. I hope Boehner and his compadres have a strong safety net under this high wire act they’ve created for themselves. They’ll have to make choices, and I believe they’ll be in favor of BO, the rich, and BB, leaving the concerns of the tpers out in the cold, as usual.
Eykis
Jan. 3rd, 2011 at 12:57 pm
As a resident of Middle Tennessee, it “blows my mind” that Judson Phillips has become some sort of national spokesmoron for the Teabaggers. Teabagging has NOT caught on here in the Nashville area, matter-of-fact, it is not very popular in Tennesee at all – who is backing this Kreep? We NEVER hear about him here on the local news – we NEVER hear about the TEABAGGERS here in Music City, USA.
I would welcome any information regarding this lawyer who has tax liens on his home and business.
Many thanks.
25thcenturygirl
Jan. 2nd, 2011 at 4:38 pm
thank you — I LOVE THIS. So glad Anthony Weiner and Debbie Wasserman Schultz aren’t coddling these brats.
Shiva (Moderator)
Jan. 2nd, 2011 at 5:26 pm
Remember the day Obama took office and the republican whiners kept repeating “Dont say Bush, its Obama’s war now”?
Well bitch, the worm has turned. Get cracking. Wheres the jobs and wheres the economy?
Oh BTW Ms Bachmann, the tea party wont help you with this, but the Dems are going to make you work. And hopefully publicize it every time you take a step back from the table.
Eykis
Jan. 3rd, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Shiva,
It will be great fun to watch the likes of Captain Crazy Bachmann and her idiocy go down – she has done NOTHING since being elected to office except gripe and complain about the government she hates – Hey Michele, QUIT – you don’t earn your paycheck or your perks of office, i.e., insurance, retirement, et al – GIVE IT ALL BACK TO TAXPAYERS – you have EARNED NOTHING but contempt from the American electorate.
Anne
Jan. 2nd, 2011 at 6:21 pm
The Party of No is in perpetual campaign mode, and now that it’s time for them to participate in governing, Kelly and Bachmann at least seem a bit gun-shy. They have not offered anything that even remotely approaches solutions, simply repeating the stalei talking points that the GOP has been echoing for decades now. The “outsider” act that people like Kelly try to pull got old a long time ago. People like him like to boast about being from the “real world,” and not part of the government that they fought tooth and nail to be elected as part of. I don’t know what these next 2 years will bring, but I hope these Tea Partiers and their GOP establishment enablers get a harsh reality check. Unfortunately, it looks like it will be at our expense unless the Democrats push back vigorously. I also hope that the president uses his veto power to checkmate any of the insanity that these folks seem determined to visit upon Americans.
la Zingaro
Jan. 2nd, 2011 at 8:18 pm
Great article. I always love your posts but man its good to see some Dems with some chutzpuh. I was beginning to lose hope. Now let’s giterdone.
Ingarose
Jan. 2nd, 2011 at 8:54 pm
Thank you for the article. I was so upset when people voted most of the dems out, but maybe it was for a reason. The Democratic Party did not seem to have a spine. Now may be they found their real strength and maybe the republican’s strength of saying ‘no’ will turn into weakness.
YellowDog
Jan. 2nd, 2011 at 10:01 pm
The Washington Post ran a story last week about Kelly. He came across as clueless. He doesn’t use a computer and didn’t know what a Blackberry was until he received his government-issued phone. His wife refers to it as a “Blueberry.” He probably runs his car dealership on the back of an envelope. His real world is dated 1969.
Fenriq
Jan. 3rd, 2011 at 12:57 am
Michelle Bachmann is a one trick pony and an exceptionally stupid one at that. She has got to be one of the most ignorant and idiotic politicians of all time and her continued presence on the national stage is like a joke that got old years ago.
I don’t expect much to change in the way of the GOP trying to actually solve any of the nation’s problems. They don’t seem to think they are supposed to do anything for the people of the country, only the rich big businesses who donate so much money to their campaigns. Its disgusting that the GOP continues to obstruct, smear, lie and generally just be in the way of politicians who want to make the nation better.
From Boehner to Cantor to McConnell, these are not men who want all Americans to have better lives, raise more educated and employable children that can compete against the world’s best educations. These men are power-hungry freaks looking to manipulate the system so that they can pay back their corporate masters with ten, twenty or even a hundred or even a thousand fold returns on their campaign investments.
F Joy
Jan. 3rd, 2011 at 10:59 am
Well said! Maybe this midterm did happen for a positive reason, but not the one the GOP believes in. Maybe the American public will actually get the truth now
and gain a clear understanding of who actually governs for the people!.
Thomas Jeffersonclub
Jan. 3rd, 2011 at 9:47 am
You’re kidding, right?
Weiner & Wasserman-Schultz got taken apart by some new guy no one’s even heard of. We have to get this debt under control, and tossing good money after what’s been wasted by this administration shows how clueless W & W-S are.
I’m glad that there are some grown-ups entering the congress to join people like Michelle Bachmann.
Shiva (Moderator)
Jan. 3rd, 2011 at 1:09 pm
interesting that the party that caused most of the debt is the one you support the most. You fail to notice that Michele Bachmann is against earmarks, except for the ones that go to her state that she won’t call earmarks. instead she calls them the necessities.
Bachman is one of the ones who got us here. and she will do nothing to get us out of it because she has done nothing in her entire term
however I will accept the fact that you did not read the interview
TGC
Jan. 3rd, 2011 at 9:07 pm
Interesting that you support the party that’s stupid enough to believe that $162 billion, down from $400 billion, is a “record deficit” but $1.3 TRILLION isn’t.
fred sanders
Jan. 3rd, 2011 at 11:40 am
The American voters didn’t like the Democratic “ass” did they.They kicked them out of office as soon as possible.Obama and his bootlickers will be next in the elections of 2012.
Shiva (Moderator)
Jan. 3rd, 2011 at 1:11 pm
well Fred you’re forgetting that there’s two years ago, and the people on Social Security are gonna like the fact that the Republicans want to do away with it. The people on Medicare are not going to be impressed with the fact that the Republicans want to do away with it. This country was against the last two wars we are in will not be favorably impressed when the Republicans want to increase it like Lindsey Graham does.
No, there’s two years left. I would wait and see because even John Boehner had to admit that this was not a mandate for the Republicans
TGC
Jan. 3rd, 2011 at 8:55 pm
So I guess we just ignore that the economically retarded DWS predicted that more jobs would be created, last year, than during the entire 8 years of Bush?
Shall we also forget that the surplus of which she speaks came from a REPUBLICAN congress?
Shall we also ignore that the 111th Congress has wracked up more debt than the first 100 Congresses combined?
The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better. – Barack Hussein Obama, 20 March 2006