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Wisconsin Republican Targeted For Recall by Wife and Maid
Is that a dollar between your legs?
Wisconsin Republican Targeted For Recall by Wife and Maid
Yes, life as a Republican sell out is tough these days. Republican state Senator Randy Hopper (R-Fond du Lac) is one of the eight senators being targeted by outraged Wisconsinites. When they arrived at his home bearing their recall petition, his maid answered the door. She was more than pleased to sign the petition and said she was sure his wife would also sign it. Later Mrs. Hopper appeared at the door and informed the protesters that Sen. Hopper was no longer living at this address.
Why the betrayal?
Here he is explaining why he won’t be at a local parade with his family because of the evil protesters who are threatening him, courtesy of WBAY:
Citing recent threats during the budget repair bill battle, Republican Senator Randy Hopper says he will not participate in Saturday’s St. Patrick’s Day Parade in Fond du Lac.
In a written statement, Senator Hopper said, “I had looked forward to walking the parade route and sharing this celebration with my family, friends, neighbors, and constituents, but I, in no way, want to put the citizens of Fond du Lac in harm’s way.”
Yes, it’s the protesters fault that he can’t attend a parade with his lovely wife and family. Those horrible, evil teachers and farmers – does their perfidy know no end?
Well, er, it turns out, Mr. Hopper was exercising his family values by living in another district with a 25 year old former state Senate committee staffer and now lobbyist. Oh, I loves it when the Republicans sleep with their dollar bills literally. It just makes the story so much easier.
Blogging Blue reports:
Randy Hopper filed for divorce from his wife in August 2010, and it’s being reported his soon to be ex-wife will be signing a recall petition.
As for the claim by Hopper’s soon to be ex-wife that Hopper is living in Madison with his 25-year-old mistress, I’ve received unconfirmed reports the “other woman” is Valerie Cass, who as of this morning was a lobbyist for Persuasion Partners, Inc., a right-wing lobbying firm.
Gosh, maybe Mr. Hopper lied about the reason he wasn’t attending the parade with his family. Maybe it has something to do with the 25 year old he’s living with now in another district. I mean, I would imagine that a wife who is signing a recall petition against her soon to be ex who is living with a 25 year old lobbyist wouldn’t be willing to sell herself out by attending a parade with her cheating husband.
I’m just saying.
The fact that another Republican family values creep is having sex with someone half his age is while he’s married to someone else is creepy and gross and totally expected. This is what you get when you elect people who need the public to believe the false image they project. The fact that she is a lobbyist is just so predictable and leads me to wonder if Republican men can only feel mild stirrings of lust when money is in play. We should note that Randy’s mistress lobbies for Persuasion Partners, among whose clients we find Scott Walker and Americans For Prosperity (aka: Koch brothers). Yeah, wherever we look we find Republicans, Koch, and dollars. Even in their beds.
At any rate, while Republicans are exceptionally accepting of their elected officials’ hypocrisy, what isn’t going to fly is the possibility that Mr. Hopper is no longer living in the martial home which is located in his district. Instead, it’s reported that he is living with his mistress in Madison and Article 4, Section 6 of the Wisconsin Constitution states that “…a candidate for state senate must be a qualified elector in the district which he may be chosen to represent”.
If Mr. Hopper no longer lives in the marital home, but has failed to update his new address with the DMV as well as notifying the appropriate parties that he is no longer residing in the district he claims to represent, Mr. Hopper has some explaining to do. Mr Hopper is quite frankly ineligible to hold his seat if he no longer lives in the district.
Mr. Hopper has been a close ally of Governor Walker’s in his search and destroy mission against living wages for Wisconsinites, so it pains me to report that it looks like he’s in for a world of hurt, more imminent than a recall campaign. I’m also simply devastated to learn that Mr. Hopper’s maid and wife will be signing the petition to remove this morally-depraved dollar sign from office. When even your own family is targeting you for a recall, chances are good that you really should not be in office anymore.
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47 Responses to Wisconsin Republican Targeted For Recall by Wife and Maid
Hrafnkell Haraldsson
Mar. 13th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
I love the family values of the GOP, always on full display. Nice grab, Sarah (pardon the pun). This is just another layer of hypocrisy (as if there weren’t enough already). Moral depravity seems to be the common coin among conservatives.
Shiva (Moderator)
Mar. 13th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
LOL, I expect so little from republicans. I am only surprised the woman wasnt 16
Reynardine
Mar. 13th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
I’m surprised it wasn’t a Congressional page. You gotta love their family values.
neil
Mar. 14th, 2011 at 2:45 am
I.m only surprised it isn’t a boy under 16.
galactus6x
Mar. 13th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
Lobbyist,whore.Same thing. Republican,liar and scumbag. Same Thing. I am surprised the whore was not a dude. You are all done in 2012. We are on to you.
rod
Mar. 13th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
You know it is truly pathetic that there are complete idiots who vote these Rethugs in to office. STUPID PEOPLE, STUPID PEOPLE, STUPID PEOPLE etc……………….
Donna
Mar. 13th, 2011 at 10:20 pm
brilliant satire.
Stephen in Portland
Mar. 13th, 2011 at 11:00 pm
if you want to know how people like this can ever be elected, google Right Wing Authoritarianism. It’s a psychological tendency that explains much. Some people just suck up to strong power figures and do what they’re told, and get enraged when the rest of us don’t go along. As an added bonus, they are able to compartmentalize their beliefs in such a way they can reconcile contradictory FACTS with false beliefs, and continue to believe the lies. Scary. Because a majority of such people form the bedrock of Republican power.
Reynardine
Mar. 13th, 2011 at 11:10 pm
It’s definitely a condition worth learning about, along with Social Dominance Orientation. During games about handling international relations and global resources, when the players were high in these traits, planetary extinction was declared in about three hours.
Reynardine
Mar. 13th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
By the way, a late friend of mine who visited certain secret dives in Baltimore, told me it was silver dollars they used to… uh… and you can’t get those any more.
BRG
Mar. 14th, 2011 at 12:19 am
Does you think he will invoke the “Newt excuse” at his upcoming press conference/ resignation announcement?
Sarah Jones
Mar. 14th, 2011 at 12:48 am
Ah yes, the old I did it to each of my wives for my country excuse. Always a winner. Yea, Family Values!
Karen
Mar. 14th, 2011 at 12:36 am
“Yeah, wherever we look we find Republicans, Koch, and dollars. Even in their beds.”. W
is pure gold! =D
I’d only add two more things: oil. and gas.
;-)
patriotaxe
Mar. 14th, 2011 at 12:51 am
It sounds as if Valerie Cass puts the “persuasion” in Persuasion Partners, Inc. Wouldn’t it be a hoot if this right-wing lobbying firm was also handling DOMA?
At the risk of being rude, I’d like to suggest that “Koch” be pronounced “cock” from this day forward.
Sarah Jones
Mar. 14th, 2011 at 2:11 am
They’re handling anti-choice regulation, which is Walker’s other big issue- he wants to make abortion illegal even hen the mother’s life is at risk and illegal for rape and incest victims, so DOMA wouldn’t surprise me one bit.
neil
Mar. 14th, 2011 at 2:48 am
I’ve always said that teabaggers are Koch suckers.
patriotaxe
Mar. 14th, 2011 at 12:58 am
I know this is going to sound incredibly naive, but what would make a young woman, three years out of college, choose to work for an organization that is going to expect her to sleep with (yech!) conservatives as part of her job? Is the GOP elite running an escort service disguised and a lobby group? When she calls home to Mom & Dad and they ask her what she does in her new job, what do you suppose she tells them?
Conservative Heart
Mar. 14th, 2011 at 2:21 am
God hates wives and happy marriages. That’s why God gave Republican Tea Partiers the right to cheat on their wives. But only Republicans.
Newt, God forgives you. But not Bill Clinton.
Karen
Mar. 14th, 2011 at 2:53 am
Maybe its the type of sex. Republicans must only approve of missionary style or something. Whatever it is, they sure were titillated by Bill’s BJs and cigars. I think thats what really knocked my mom over the top and shes a lifelong Dem. Just couldnt get past the non-vanilla sex.
novenator
Mar. 14th, 2011 at 4:39 am
I bet his pets would sign it if they could too.
SCRIBE
Mar. 14th, 2011 at 8:00 am
The constituents of his district should immediately DEMAND his resignation. Don’t wait for a recall election. Resignation NOW,to protect the innocent young people he comes in contact with.Sexual predation is a disease,with no known cure….
Laura Meritt
Mar. 14th, 2011 at 9:22 am
“”"We should note that Randy’s mistress lobbies for Persuasion Partners, among whose clients we find Scott Walker and Americans For Prosperity”"
“Persuasion Partners” lol, good name for your young ‘ho “lobbyists”. Must be ‘hard work’ to lobby an old man.
Anthony
Mar. 14th, 2011 at 9:41 am
I would be more p!ssed that he is claiming the state has no money and the unions are the problem, when he has a MAID!!! im pretty sure the tax payers of Wisconsin are paying for that one…. and im guessing they are paying for the house he’s living in in another district
but unions are the problem…….
Kevin Nelson
Mar. 14th, 2011 at 9:44 am
Can someone please school me on where this guy preached his “family values” in his campaign? I would love to read something based on actual knowledge and less pandering – you can see the same kind of crap from conservative sites as well. YOU claim to be better you switch republican from democrat and you all spew the same crap with NO facts to back it up. OHHH a scorned housewife asks for her husbands recall?? this is news why?? Never mind the constitutional review that needs to happen to see if what took place in the legislature was legal, he cheated on his wife so get him out of there and put back in the democrats!!! You all make me sick… You act like a bunch of friggin sheep.. Learn to think for yourselves and get off the party bandwagon and start thinking about what YOU can do to make this country great again. Oh and for the democrat senators that ran away from their posts, why is there no need to recall them? Draft dodging was illegal but Grown Humans can run and hide from their ELECTED positions?
Sarah Jones
Mar. 14th, 2011 at 9:57 am
So you’re OK with him not living in his district and sleeping with lobbyists. Got it.
majii
Mar. 14th, 2011 at 10:45 am
The dedicated dittoheads have gotta preserve that cognitive dissonance so that they can continue to vote against their own best interests! They seem to have no mechanism that permits them to see the difference between the platform these republicans run on and the way they actually live.
Shiva (Moderator)
Mar. 14th, 2011 at 10:04 am
1. The national GOP platform is family values.
2. News does not call you daily to see what is available according to you.
3. Its obvious you do not know why the 14 Dems left Wisconsin, you probably should not be commenting on it.
4. If you are sick, leave and do not post again
patriotaxe
Mar. 14th, 2011 at 10:58 am
Draft dodging is illegal? I think not. If it were, I’m certain that George W. Bush and Richard Cheney would NEVER have done it. They love their country too much and they respect the laws of our land.
Anne
Mar. 14th, 2011 at 9:56 am
Being targeted for recall by both one’s maid and wife has got to be the ultimate irony. I have no sympathy for Senator Hopper, who has not only betrayed his own constituents for Gov. Walker, but also conforms to the image of the hypocritical Republican who preaches family values but practices something else altogether. I don’t know what his young mistress’s motivation is for sleeping with him, and if that’s the price of employment, she needs to get away ASAP. On the other hand, if it’s the idea of proximity to power, I wonder what she’ll do when he gets recalled. Either way, it’s a bad career move on her part. I have absolutely no respect for these Republicans.
jaime
Mar. 14th, 2011 at 11:07 am
John Edwards makes this man look like a Saint. Hopper filed for divorce back in 2010, hello this is 2011! What is a seperated man suppose to wait till the divorce is finalized, Hell No. Sarah you are jumping to conclusion that that is why he filed for divorce. Hell how do you know his wife wasn’t running around on him? or the marriage was just over. All this pandering is total BS… but in the end he still looks like a saint compared to the one time face of the Democratic Party, Edwards.
Shiva (Moderator)
Mar. 14th, 2011 at 11:12 am
But, but, what about -John Ensign? Vitter? But, but….Mark Sanford!
Jaime, your wasting the air in here, please open a window
Sarah Jones
Mar. 14th, 2011 at 11:23 am
Jamie, I know it’s tough, but try to read the words on the page. I never said WHY he was getting divorced. For all I know, he could be getting divorced because he slept with his dog before the lobbyist.
He does not live in his district. Read the words and try to absorb that they violate the law. Unless, of course, you are saying it’s OK to violate the law for Republicans — I have heard that Jesus is giving out special dispensations for certain Republicans, as Shiva listed already. And of course, we have Newt, sleeping around on his wife who was in hospital with cancer – but he did it for his country, so I’m sure we can all understand that.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us all, but we already knew you wouldn’t care about his morals or the law or his sleeping with special interests lobbying him for taxpayer money. Save some time next time and skip it.
Steve Miller
Mar. 14th, 2011 at 11:58 am
This is great. Especially since none of our fellow democrats have ever divorced their spouses or cheated on them. John Edwards never existed, JFK, maybe even Al Gore getting his inner thighs massaged, perish the thought. This is the type of tactic that turns people away. Lets not stand on the strength of our ideas or merits of our arguments, lets persuade others with personal attacks. We could create a new Jerry Springer show politician edition, highlighting republican personal indescretions, the problem is there are just as many or even more self-rigteous democrats who will be our next guest. How many of people writing on this board have cheated on a spouse or significant other, or lust after others than your wife/husband? This is what sickens me about todays political world. How about we make the best argument becuase our ideas and positions are the best for Wisconsin? How about our representatives do their job instead of using tax payer money to work on recall effort? Maybe we need to recognize that many of the disgruntled citizens of this state are angry with us. Maybe we should not ask for whom the bell tolls, for the bell tolls for thee.
Shiva (Moderator)
Mar. 14th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
another one the failed reading comprehension. I guess that you are saying that you want to ignore the part where it talks about he doesn’t live in his district, where he legally has to live in order to be a representative from that district. What is it about people that absolutely cannot read several paragraphs and not get past the first line
Steve Miller
Mar. 14th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
At least your response exemplifies my point. Your writing demonstrates that you are casting stones in a glass house but that is your choice. Are you sure he does not have any legal residence in his district? Did you check the tax rolls? Did you check all sales and rental in his district? Did you determine if the house where his wife currently resides is still considered his property even jointly and would establish residency? I am assuming that you have done all this research or you would not respond as you do. If all that is left of the Democrat party is personal attacks and shoddy research then maybe it is time to move on to a political ideology that has some intellectual prowess. Best of luck if you wish to continue with your recall, slanderous writings, and shunning of reason. I hope that these same things do not befall you but they will continue to tear at the fabric of our nation, our unity as a people and will only push away those who wish to have rational discussions.
Shiva (Moderator)
Mar. 14th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
He is not living in his district. Stop being rediculous
“Best of luck if you wish to continue with your recall, slanderous writings, and shunning of reason.”
The recalls are necessary to the rights of people who work. You should join in. Slanderous and shunning of reason?
let’s see, what can we say about shunning of reason? Shall I play your silly game? Reducing the taxes at the corporations and wealthy pay, then cutting funding to education throughout all levels from kindergarten to college, then increasing the taxes on the middle class and lower class. For some reason you seem to accept this as the norm. trying to take healthcare away from people who desperately need it? Trying to control women’s bodies as if they were nothing more than a piece of clay? Not helping create jobs in any shape form or manner? Is all that’s left of the Republican Party is the destruction of American society?
go away. You don’t want to have rational discussions you only want people who see things your way.
not a rupub anymore
Mar. 14th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
to steve miller. It is the rupubs that claim the high, holy ground. That is what makes “family values” so hilarious
Vanessa
Mar. 14th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
Funny but persuasion partners is knee deep in with Koch’s and Walker, just take a gander at their clients. www.persuasionpartners.co...
Steve Miller
Mar. 14th, 2011 at 5:37 pm
I’m sorry you’re right, I hadn’t thought about the don’t be ridiculous argument. That caps it. We don’t need facts or information just an emotive opinion based on hearsay should be enough not only to say whatever one wants about a person but also to take away that persons job, elect public officials and run a country. A very impressive and reasoned argument that should be the cornerstone not only of recall efforts but the platform for anyone who would run for that seat. Did you steal? Don’t be ridiculous. Ethics violation? Don’t be ridiculous. Will you be honest and forthright? Don’t be ridiculous. That argument is most certainly a clincher.
Now, you have made an assumption as to my position on the issues you highlight. Well, again when we assume, well you know what happens. In regards to taxes, as a taxpayer of Wisconsin I would like to see taxes raised so high that I am forced to move to another state and close my business and move it there. That would be greatly beneficial to the state. Wisconsin tax rates are already prohibitive to business and individuals, we are the fourth highest tax state in the country and that does not seem to be attracting more jobs to our area. We have a massive brain drain because we are not able to attract businesses, especially in higher technology fields, and so people with a college education leave the state in droves. By losing any businesses, or by simply not adding more, we increase the tax burden on the remaining individuals and eventually there comes a tipping point where families are too heavily burdened, the elderly on fixed incomes can no longer pay their property taxes and we face less and less revenue to the point of bankruptcy as a state. (Please do not be like Michael Moore and say states cannot go bankrupt. If as a state you cannot receive credit because of your poor financial rating, and are not allowed to print your own currency, you can go bankrupt when expenses exceed revenue.) At some point we must face the reality that the government cannot tax itself out of the habit of spending too much. This means that for better or worse, most likely both, cuts do have to be made and we have to find ways to live within our current means. I will say this however, everyone has the right to pay more than what is required in taxes. I would assume that you pay at least 30-40% of your income to the state and only keep the absolute minimum you need to buy enough nutrient to keep you alive and functioning and that you have turned from things such as automobiles, microwaves, ovens (fire is cheaper), even computers (wait that cannot be true, so you must not be sending in all that you have to the state and therefore must be some horrible conservative living well beyond what is necessary and wasting resources that should be going to the poor or to purchase supplies for recall efforts or the unions).
I hope you find that statement absurd but it is using absurdity to reveal absurdity. The desire to take everything from the rich is only relative. Do you have a home or apartment, food to eat, clothing to wear, a computer to type on and electricity to make it work? You are richer than not only most of the world but many people in Wisconsin who have no home, little food or clothing and therefore you are relatively rich. What you have should be taken from The desire to take everything from the rich is only relative. Do you have a home or apartment, food to eat, clothing to wear, a computer to type on and electricity to make it work? You are richer than not only most of the world but many people in Wisconsin who have no home, little food or clothing and therefore you are relatively rich. What you have should be taken from you and given to those who have even the slightest bit less than you. What about the person who has a four bedroom home and their neighbor with a two bedroom home? Should the “wealthier” person be compelled by the state to give a room to the neighbor? At what point does it stop?
I believe you can support sustainable healthcare for all people, equity in taxation, quality education and at that same time reduce the oppressive nature of the government. You can be liberal in thought and not need to resort to class warfare, you can work for lower taxation upon all people and businesses and still promote a strong society, you can even completely disagree with me and at the same be working for the benefit of this state and country. This country was founded not upon the idea that the government is the solution to the problems of the people but the people are the solution to the problems.
I believe that most Democrat and Republican representatives are doing what they believe is best for the state. I hope that this is true and I wish it were all of them. I may not agree with everything or many things they are doing but I will not pick up my marbles and go home just because someone disagrees. Additionally, if our concern is money for teachers or healthcare or whatever, then spending millions on recalls and new elections seems to be quite a waste of resources. As our President said, elections have consequences. So in simplest terms sometimes you suck it up and do your job while making your voice known and working toward what you believe should be done. I guess we should be thankful that even though almost two thirds of Americans opposed the national healthcare bill people did not recall all those who voted in favor and then have the President impeached. However, I guess this is how we behave in Wisconsin. Some may consider the bill that was past a disgrace (although please don’t abuse the term “rights”, there is not a constitutional right to collectively bargain for benefits even if you wish to stretch the Wagner Act or the executive orders from JFK and Nixon, nor by the way is healthcare a constitutional right, nor is a college education a constitutional right, they may be good things to have but they are not constitutionally guaranteed), but I believe when we play dirty political games, when our attitude is one of immaturity that if we can’t have our way we’re leaving, in our childish response because we have disagreed and therefore must demonize those with whom we have had disagreements and spread as much rumor and innuendo facts be damned, we as a state are a disgrace to the nation.
Shiva (Moderator)
Mar. 14th, 2011 at 5:42 pm
The right to drive isnt in the constitution either. Certainly you understand rights go far beyond the constitution? you have the right to collective bargaining when you sign an agreement with a union or a company. And there are laws on how that’s dealt with. If you want to play the little constitutional rights game than this country would shut down and minutes.
That post is like a run on sentence. I have no idea of what you are saying, but it looks rediculous. I did get the Mike Moore part, he enver said states cant go bankrupt. He said with 80% of the wealth in 20% of the population there is enough money pout there that the states are not bankrupt. lemme try and fix this so it can read by ordinary mortals.
Ok. First I am sorry you feel oppressed. The healthcare bill was not liked by many people because Obama was elected to give us National healthcare. He was asked to bring us up to the standards of the excellent care in Europe and Scandinavia So your claim of needing impeachment makes little sense. two thirds of the nation may dislike the bill, but you forgot to look at the reason why. There are millions of people who are happy to have the bill in that they can ensure their children without being dropped and insure themselves without being dropped. We are one of the few civilized countries in the world were a diabetic and drop dead in the street for lack of medicine and here we have conservatives laughing about it.
You may have noticed that a few years ago jobs went south. Basic corporations have no need to come to places like Mich and Wisconsin and pay the horrid overhead in heating alone. Taxes are not the detriment that you think. if a company has a reason to come to Wisconsin they will come. For instance a logging company, or whatever naturalresources etc. Wisconsin may have.
you keep saying cuts need to be made yet you’d don’t understand that the cuts are being made in the wrong place. You drop the taxes on the wealthy who own 80% of the wealth and then you tax the much poorer people at a higher rate. There is nothing you can say or do to get out of that one. And that is exactly what your governor is doing.
thank goodness I don’t pay a state income tax. I pay a higher sales tax. It all comes out in the end
that’s exactly what we’re doing here is making our voices being heard and you seem to have some problem with it. I had a link to several studies one of which was done over a 20 year period. Under almost all circumstances Republican and Democrat representatives voted for the wealthy, whether it be corporate or whatever. It was found in their voting that in 98% of the cases they paid absolutely no attention to what their constituents said. I do not believe any of them are here to help. If you look at your conservative House of Representatives whose priorities include religion, abortion and other silly things I think you may have to say that’s true. As a certainly are doing absolutely nothing for the middle class and the lower class except for raising taxes on them
there is no intent to take everything from the wealthy. There is intent to have them pay the correct percentage. The country demands it, you’re not going to get more from the middle class that is not working. Dropping taxes on the wealthy and adding them to the poor, taking away from the education requirements in this country will ruin a generation and for some reason the conservatives don’t care.
I’m getting tired of trying to read your post so I will say first of all you’re not going to compare Americans to the rest of the world. there are homeless people all across the United States in every single state many of them veterans that every administration has kicked in the side. the Republicans in your state will do anything to destroy your rights as a person. They will destroy your wives rights to her own body. regardless if she’s going to have an abortion or not she still should have the right of choice of what to do with her own body. if you have children I am sure that you applaud the cuts that were made in education in states all across the nation. This is the country that put men on the moon and soon wont be able to have kids they can read their names.
Read this and tell us how proud you are
www.politicususa.com/en/3...
Frederick J Rourke
Mar. 21st, 2011 at 9:28 pm
Steve So you believe that we should not advance in social welfare since the constitution was written.If you read about the life of ordinary people in former times I think you would reconsider the good old days.
Steve Miller
Mar. 14th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
Sorry again, I just cannot help myself. Driving is not a right and is not guaranteed. No one has the “right” to drive. If it were a right drunk drivers could not have their license revoked the blind would have to be allowed to drive. Obviously, if you took all the wealth from the top 10-20% of the population you would not even pay off the national debt, but since Moore cannot do math and logic seems to escape this argument, you’re right lets burn down the houses of all those who have more than you do and take all their possessions, this will solve all economic problems. I assume Moore left all his assest in the state to help us. What? He didn’t? He’s a capitalist pig? Such a surprise. Oh, and by the way if you strip away all that wealth, sell all the stocks and bonds and the businesses what will you do next year when the economy has totally collapsed? And please, please, may my argument be so ridiculous that ridiculous will be spelled correctly. It is not diculous a second time. By the way when are you selling everything you own to give to those who have less than you? If you don’t you are nothing more than another capitalist pig who should have everything they own stripped from them by the government.
Shiva (Moderator)
Mar. 14th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
you certainly do go to extremes. You make no attempt to understand what Michael Moore said, like others you simply say why doesn’t Michael Moore give his money to the state etc.
driving is a right once you have taken the test. at that point you have the right to drive. Nothing is guaranteed. The Constitution gives you the right to habeas corpus, and you might pretend that that’s guaranteed, but one word from people in high places and you don’t have that right any longer. Under Bush you did not have the right to assembly unless it was on his terms. The rights in the Constitution are up to those who are in power and are not guaranteed
You just keep bouncing from one thing to another and you’re getting boring. No one ever mentioned anything about paying off the national debt than all of the wealth from the top 20%. I will give one more crack at it in hopes that you can wrap yourself around it. With 20% of the people holding 80% of the wealth, that leaves 80% of the people with 20% of the wealth. The 80% of the people of the 20% of the wealth are the ones who keep the wealthy wealthy.
If the 80% of the people with the 20% of the wealth have no money to spend then the state/country will go bankrupt. If the distribution of wealth changes to something like this: 20% upper class or the wealthy: 40% in the middle class: 20% between the upper middle class and the lower middle class: and 20% in the lower-class you will have a survivable state and nation. that was Michael Moore’s point. now you may remove yourself from Michael Moore’s assets, and try to catch up
BRG
Mar. 14th, 2011 at 7:08 pm
Wow, Steve, you dont have an argument….its a run on sentence
of mind-numbing vapidity.
Gayle Zachariasen
Mar. 14th, 2011 at 10:23 pm
I agree with BRG’s assessment of Steve’s rhighteous ramblings,in particular his comment about Steve’s “run on sentence of mind-numbing vapidity.” Steve should skip the liberal blogs and share his rants with intellectual heavy weights such as Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachman and Glen Beck. I am sure the four of them will find a lot of common ground. Steve’s “talents” are wasted on liberals.