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Facing Surplus, Wisconsin Republicans Go After Firefighters and Police
By: Sarah JonesMay. 15th, 2011more from Sarah Jones
You knew they would.
When the Wisconsin Republicans came for the public sector employees this spring, they exempted firefighters and police unions. But those unions didn’t buy into the divide and conquer strategy of the GOP; instead, they demonstrated with their brothers and sisters, protesting Governor Walker’s union busting bill (and continuous attempts to pass said bill in any way possible). They said then that if you come for one union, you come for all unions, exemplifying the meaning of and the power of Solidarity.
Now the Republicans are coming for the police and firefighters.
The Wausau Daily Herald reports:
Rep. Bob Ziegelbauer, I-Manitowoc, introduced the bill that would eliminate collective bargaining for public safety employees on health care and pension contributions. Ziegelbauer’s bill does not require an employee to contribute to health care and pension funds, but would allow municipalities to mandate contributions.
Jeremy Kopp, a Wausau firefighter and the department’s union president, said he will urge firefighters to email and call legislators to express their opposition to Ziegelbauer’s bill.
Police and firefighters joined tens of thousands of public workers who protested this spring in Madison in opposition to Walker’s bill, even though they were exempt. Kopp said firefighters and police officers took part suspecting their jobs would be targeted in the future.
“We knew it would come eventually; we just didn’t know when,” Kopp said.Josh Klug, a firefighter from Merrill and president of the Central Wisconsin Firefighters Association, said that firefighters statewide have made concessions during contract negotiations to help municipalities struggling with revenue losses. During union contract negotiations four years ago, Merrill firefighters accepted a smaller salary increase than they received in the previous contract, Klug said.
Ziegelbauer, who as an independent caucuses with the Republicans, says the bill is an attempt to apply key parts of Gov. Scott Walker’s controversial budget repair bill to police and firefighters. Ziegelbauer voted for Walker’s union-busting bill.
That “revenue” loss does not exist anymore – that was a ruse. First, it only existed because Walker gave tax cuts to corporations and now, it only exists in the world of Republican spin:
The nonpartisan Legislative Fiscal Bureau released a revised estimate of state tax revenues showing Wisconsin collecting an additional $233 million this fiscal year, $204 million the next year and $199 million in 2012-13. Officials with the agency said the increase is likely due to an improving economy, a stronger stock market and higher business profits.
Did you hear that? The House that Scotty built was built on a lie. There are no revenue losses.
If Governor Walker thought he could move on from the vocal protests last February and March, he was wrong. “The Fight is Not Over” rally took place yesterday in Madison, with between 7,000-10,000 protesters showing up.
The Wisconsin State Journal reported, “We have to reclaim our moral outrage, our sense of indignation,” Mahlon Mitchell, president of the Professional Fire Fighters of Wisconsin, said to cheers from the crowd. “We have to keep the pressure on and let them hear us.”
It’s telling that in the wake of the news that Wisconsin isn’t broke, is in fact facing a budget surplus and economic growth to the tune of a potential $636 million boost, Walker and the Wisconsin Republicans have not changed their story one bit.
When you take the curtain of “economic crisis” away from Walker’s justifications for his union busting, the truth is revealed to be a petty little puppet man, whose mouth moves when the Koch brothers pull his strings. Facing a surplus, Walker and the Republicans say they will not change course.
Instead, they will continue their miserliness, a proven economic failure. Republican governors are associated with lower rates of growth, and regretfully, Walker’s policies personify the factors contributing to lower growth. Walker and the Wisconsin Republicans seem hell bent on creating a fiscal crisis in Wisconsin come hell or high water; if they can’t do it themselves with tax cuts to corporations, they’ll just pretend it exists. If that doesn’t work, they’ll claim it’s time to pay “our bills” – as if workers’ pay isn’t part of those bills.
It’s impossible to have rational discussions with people whose actions are based on an ever-moving goal post. The Wisconsin unions have given financial concessions that should have addressed any real fiscal issues, but instead, the Wisconsin Republicans keep changing the goal post, moving it further down the field every time they get what they want. And now, given the revised estimate of a rosy fiscal situation, the Wisconsin Republicans are still demanding concessions and when they get them, still going in to kill collective bargaining.
The curtain has been lifted from Oz. The economic crisis the Republicans were so gleefully using to kill unions does not exist, but instead of backing down, they’re now coming for the firefighters and police.
Updated: 5:11 PM to clarity that Ziegelbauer caucuses with Republicans.
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Pam
May. 15th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
Reminds u of “first they came” except the police and foremen didn’t buy in in the first place.
Sarah Jones
May. 15th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
Exactly my thoughts. Very proud of all of our unions for standing strong — standing together. First they came for …..
Teacher in Cheeseland
May. 15th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
Yeah, they marched with me and my union brothers and sisters. I guess Walker realizes he doesn’t need the intense protection he needed during the height of his political maneuverings. Together, the people of Wisconsin–not merely the unions, but the people who have seen malfeasance and deception in their government–will bring the government back to the people of Wisconsin, where it belongs.
DannyEastVillage
May. 15th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
I can easily imagine our police-state proponents throwing union organizers into prison. With all the ugly that the Roman catholic hierarchy puts out, one wonders why that big powerful organization isn’t being heard about the rights of workers. Roman catholic leadership embraced that position a century ago. So where are they? Still busy taking queers to the woodshed I guess.
Karen
May. 15th, 2011 at 8:05 pm
What on earth does the Church have to do with this? This is about the firefighters and police unions. What on earth is the matter with you?
You’re just another hate monger.
hoovsie
May. 16th, 2011 at 3:24 am
May be he’s a paid GOP troll, trying to stir up trouble, or one of Walker’s goons trying to make us union folks look like thug hate-filled bigots. F**k that guy!
Rob Cypher
May. 15th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
One thing – that’s an “independent” introducing the bill, not a Republican. At least if I’m reading “I-Manitowoc” correctly.
Rob Cypher
May. 15th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
You should probably add some extra info…I had to go to Wikipedia to find out that he caucuses with the GOP, even though he has the “(I)” label.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob...
It says he was originally a Democrat, than left the party sometime before running for office in 2010, then after he was elected he decided to caucus with the Republicans.
Rob Cypher
May. 15th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
Er, he actually got elected as a Democrat in 2008, then switched to (I) in 2010 during his re-election campaign. Not sure if he was “primaried out” or what.
Sarah Jones
May. 15th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
Thanks for the extra info. I updated to clarify.
I note that Lisa Murkowski is also calling herself an Independent for purely political reasons relating her to re-election.
Reynardine
May. 15th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
Deja vu all over again: PATCO
Anne
May. 15th, 2011 at 5:37 pm
Any unions that endorsed Scott Walker last November has got to realize by now that he is willing to throw them under the bus. I never believed for one moment that he would stop at gutting the unions that endorsed his opponent. It’s just an extension of his blatant power grab, and it should put even more non-unionized workers on notice that no one is exempt. Walker’s history as Executive of Milwaukee County should also be instructive in the way he handled unionized workers in that capacity. He is a willing tool of the Koch brothers and their ilk. In addition, he and his henchmen are trying to push their agenda through in anticipation of the recall elections.
Sally
May. 15th, 2011 at 5:41 pm
And yet, the GOP thinks they are lining up all their little soldiers to take over the country next year. I would say that anyone with a brain will vote Democratic, but then I go elsewhere and see the hundreds of people supporting Sarah Palinsky, who agrees with everything Walker is doing (or at least, when RAM tells her to.)
Shiva (Moderator)
May. 15th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
it is obvious to me that the drop in corporate taxes in the shunning of certain revenues by states are contrived means of creating a false emergency as you note.
There are quite a few governors across the United States doing this and each one as far as I am concerned is guilty of a crime and that is of defrauding the state that they represent. In Wisconsin this all seems to be pathetic to me simply because they are doing everything they can to get thrown out of office so that the Democrats can come in and put things back the way they were and restore the rights of the people. The fiscal emergencies are the ones who created by the governors
EV
May. 15th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
Like the police and firefighters knew they would………They stood in solidarity with us before and we will stand in solidarity with them now. Solidarity Forever!
radii
May. 15th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
The naked cynicism of the Karl Rove playbook was exposed early on after the 2010 election – the Republicans would go after unions and public employees and make them the new “welfare queen” – with the argument that these workers are “overpaid” somehow when the data show that they could earn more in the private sector – pitting the working class against itself … Round 1 was Wisconsin where a Tea Party moron new Republican governor attacked public workers and it backfired, big time … he manufactured a crisis in the fiscal budget of the state by giving a big tax break to the wealthy causing a tiny temporary deficit and after a while now the state has a surplus – but he and his band of union-busting anti-worker right-wingnut ideologues haven’t let up yet … now they’re going after firefighters and police … pathetic … the question begs to be answered, maybe private employees should have as good of pensions, healthcare coverage and other benefits that public sector workers and union workers have rather than taking away what those workers have to make their jobs as crappy as private sector jobs …
The_Patriot
May. 15th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
wait – don’t policemen have guns?
msbpodcast
May. 16th, 2011 at 12:20 am
You know how to take care of the problem (republicans,) just don’t respond to their 911 calls.
Issue a refund on their tax bill, but that would actually cost something out of pocket so eliminate it from next years taxes entirely.
If they don’t want to pay, they don’t have to, but neither are you obligated to respond AND PUBLISH the names, phone numbers and addresses of all the republicans who aren’t covered.
sherriww
May. 16th, 2011 at 12:38 am
We just have to hope the voters are awake NOW,AND GO VOTE!Get Walker and every politician and govenor like him,Tossed OUT on their ear,and the sooner the better! ANYONE who ever votes for these Teapublicans again,well,I wish they would all get together in some one state,do their thing,and leave the REST of us alone! I do Not know when decent people came to decide to attack our Teachers,Cops,Firemen,and all the rest who keep us safe,provide us sevices,and teach our children! It is a Disgrace,nothing less,and the World is watching!
novenator
May. 16th, 2011 at 2:38 am
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out –
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out –
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out –
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me — and there was no one left to speak for me.
www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/arti...
Mark
May. 16th, 2011 at 7:28 am
And there you have it.
They’re coming for EVERYONE until everyone is working at minimum wage for the landed gentry.
Mark
May. 16th, 2011 at 7:32 am
And whenever a 911 call comes in I recommend that all emergency workers determine the caller’s political affiliation first, then tell the caller that if they are sympathetic to any GOP/Teatard causes, they’re either on their own, or must pay FIRST before they get a response.
frank
May. 16th, 2011 at 10:11 am
I don’t understand your beef! Why should you not contribute to your health care or pension? Why are you entitled to not have to contribute? Take responsibility. I have read talk equating to a nanny state. If you contribute to these things you have a say, otherwise you take what they give you and like it. While I have read only one view point, I am not ready to pass judgement against Walker. Wake up before the spoon fed garbage poisons you.
Paul
May. 16th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
Huh?!? You trolls are the ones with “spoon fed garbage” and are the ones who should wake up and realize you’re being duped…BIG TIME!
Shiva (Moderator)
May. 16th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
it’s obvious you don’t understand the beef.the people in question had already taken concessions on their healthcare and pension and were all set to pay more. However, that didn’t seem to matter to the Gov.
This has nothing to do with a nanny state. Nor is anyone asking for one. But thank you for the talking point
Robin Allison
May. 16th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
Many years ago I worked as a state employee during an economic downturn. It was not in Wisconsin, but this holds true everywhere I believe. The state had frozen hiring and pay raises. The second year of this, the legislature decided that while they could not commit to a pay raise, with associated costs in taxes and benefits, instead they would pick up the employee contribution to the retirement plan, essentially giving us a 5% raise. If benefits/etc. were at the time~ 30% of extra cost based on salary,it means the state gave 2 years worth of COLAS while saving a third of the cost. It also meant the money was not paid out to anyone who quit before vestment. Coupled with single people dying before getting their money, it was economic sense to make the full contribution to the retirement. I’ll bet someone with a long memory or union negotiation minutes probably shows this negotiation somewhere in WI’s past.
Fiscally,there are only a couple states with any problem with their defined benefit plans. Those states either gambled on things like diamonds or borrowed/deferred payments into their funds. The numbers can be spun to convince the ignorant that the pension funds are going broke,but it is all spun for those who really don’t know how these things work.. Retirement for public employees cost approximately zero dollars to the tax payer, while ensuring a better quality employee at lower cost than paying private sector wages. If a fellow can make a couple hundred thousand as a consultant and teaches for 80 grand instead out of love and desire for a steady income and benefits, cutting out the perks is going to make it a lot more attractive to go into the private sector. Realizing this and crafting policy to account for such nuance is not a republican strong point in this day and age.
Anne
May. 16th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
A few weeks ago, when Walker came to D.C.,he was forced to admit that union-busting had ABSOLUTELY NOTHIING to do with balancing the budget. Anyone who is still buying the myth that unions have a sense of “entitlement” has obviously been drinking the Koch Kool-Aid. It’s about the GOP’s efforts to eliminate reliable sources of votes for Democrats, but they may very well have delivered Republican and Independent votes to Democrats in the near future. That was their rational for destroying ACORN with their lies.