Palin’s Collapse, Economy Power Obama to Leads in Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania

ImageQuinnipiac University’s polling institute released the results of their latest poll this morning (Wednesday). But this is no ordinary, generalized, national poll. Quinnipiac specifically polled the three biggest, most critical swing states: Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania.

Here is what the poll results showed:

Florida: Obama up 49% to 43% pre-debate and 51% to 43% post-debate

Ohio: Obama up 49% to 42% pre-debate and 50% to 42% post-debate

Pennsylvania: Obama ahead 49% to 43% pre-debate and 54% to 39% post-debate.

The news from this poll is very good for Barack Obama considering the fact that just three weeks ago, he was either down in polls, or at the very best, tied in some states. The momentum then was definitely with John McCain and it felt like McCain may start to pull away.

It is also great news for Obama considering that no one from either party has been elected president without winning two of the these three states because these three states are rich in electoral votes–a combined total of 68 (out of a necessary 270 to win the presidency).

Though the poll results show pre and post debate numbers, the debate itself was not that big of a factor, according to those who were polled in these states. When asked directly, many polled indicated that they felt Obama won the debate but quickly added that the debate was not the primary factor they considered when deciding on whom to vote for.

In Florida, there has been a dramatic 13 point shift since the presidential debate. John McCain still leads with men and white voters in the state, but his margin has shrunk to 50%-45%. Independents in Florida have shifted to Obama in a big way. They have gone from 50%-43% for McCain to giving Obama a 12 point lead 52%-40%. This along with Obama’s 20 point lead with women in the state helps to explain his turn around. Seventy nine percent of Florida voters watched the debate, and by a margin of 49%-34% they said Obama won.

In Ohio, the story was much the same as in Florida. Sixty four percent of Ohio voters watched the debate, and by a margin of 49%-33% they that Obama won the debate. It is good news for Obama that McCain has not been able to make up any ground in Ohio. Obama leads among Buckeye State Independents 46%-42%, and is tied with McCain among men, 46%-46%. Obama still enjoys a double digit lead among women, 53%-39%. Fifty nine percent of Ohio voters said the economy is the biggest issue in the election, and they trust Obama by a margin of 50%-39% to handle the economy.

Pennsylvania has reverted back to a margin that is closer to what many thought Obama would enjoy in the state. The economy is the most important issue to Keystone State voters and on this issue Obama has a nearly 20 point lead over McCain, 55%-36%. Sixty four percent of those surveyed watched the debate, and they said Obama won by a margin of 51%-31%.

McCain’s gamble on jumping into the economic crisis has really hurt him in Pennsylvania. By a margin of 51%-15% voters thought that Obama has been helpful in solving the crisis compared to 39%-35% for McCain. Voters oppose the bailout bill in all three states by double digits. It has the least amount of opposition in Florida (42%-36%), and the most in Ohio, (48%-29%).

The other factor in the shift to Obama has been the complete collapse of Sarah Palin’s approval ratings. In Florida, Palin has gone from a positive 47%-23% rating to a negative 36%-39%. In Ohio Palin has gone from a positive 41%-32% to 35%-35% tie. In Pennsylvania has gone from a 39%-26% positive to a negative 34%-37%. Palin is now hurting, not helping McCain.

This election is no longer about character or foreign policy. It is about the economy, and John McCain’s terrible performance over the past two weeks has led to him falling like a rock. It appears that the debate did not change many mind, but merely confirmed the way that people were leaning. Independents are worried about the economy, and they are leaving McCain in droves. I think that Obama’s lead is a little inflated in Pennsylvania, and probably Florida too.

The troubling number for McCain is in Ohio, where the race seems to have steadied into a solid lead for Obama. No matter what happens elsewhere in the nation, if Obama holds all of the blue states and picks up Ohio, he wins this election. I am not willing to name Obama the next president just yet, but if these numbers hold steady after the second presidential debate, then the Democrat is in an excellent position to win. With Sarah Palin hurting the ticket instead of helping it, McCain has little ammo to use to turn the momentum back to him. It is pretty simple, if this election is about the economy on November 4, John McCain will lose.

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39 Replies to “Palin’s Collapse, Economy Power Obama to Leads in Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania”

  1. Sarah Palin is intellectually bereft of real ideas for leading all of this country out of the George Bush Sewage Dump. However, she is so obviously out of her league on this one. I think more people are going to be watching the VP debate tomorrow night. Policy vs. pageantry. Hmm. I wonder what the country needs more of right now?

  2. Suzanne,

    Policy versus pagentry…beautifully said! What a great analoy! I’m goind to steal that one…hope you don’t mind!

  3. So many people are turning a blinds eye to the fact that the democrats, especially Clinton, Frank and Dodd are responsible for the present state of our economy.

    1977: Pres. Jimmy Carter signs the Community Reinvestment Act into Law. The law pressured financial institutions to extend home loans to those who would otherwise not qualify. The Premise: Home ownership would improve poor and crime-ridden communities and neighborhoods in terms of crime, investment, jobs, etc. Results: Statistics bear out that it did not help.
    How did the government get so deeply involved in the housing market? Answer: Bill Clinton wanted it that way.
    1992: Republican representative Jim Leach (IO) warned of the danger that Fannie and Freddie were changing from being agencies of the public at large to money machines for the principals and the stockholding few.
    1993: Clinton extensively rewrote Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac’s rules turning the quasi-private mortgage-funding firms into semi-nationalized monopoies dispensing cash and loans to large Democratic voting blocks and handing favors, jobs and contributions to political allies. This potent mix led inevitably to corruption and now the collapse of Freddie and Fannie.
    1994: Despite warnings, Clinton unveiled his National Home-Ownership Strategy which broadened the CRA in ways congress never intended.
    1995: Congress, about to change from a Democrat majority to Republican, Clinton orders Robert Rubin’s Treasury Dept to rewrite the rules. Robt. Rubin’s Treasury reworked rules, forcing banks to satisfy quotas for sub-prime and minority loans to get a satisfactory CRA rating. The rating was key to expansion or mergers for banks. Loans began to be made on the basis of race and little else.
    1997 – 1999: Clinton , bypassing Republicans, enlisted Andrew Cuomo, then Secretary of Housing and Urban Developement, allowing Freddie and Fannie to get into the sub-prime market in a BIG way. Led by Rep. Barney Frank and Sen. Chris Dodd, congress doubled down on the risk by easing capital limits and allowing them to hold just 2.5% of capital to back their investments vs. 10% for banks. Since they could borrow at lower rates than banks their enterprises boomed.
    With incentives in place, banks poured billions in loans into poor communities, often “no doc”, “no income”, requiring no money down and no verification of income. Worse still was the cronyism: Fannie and Freddie became home to out-of work-politicians, mostly Clinton Democrats. 384 politicians got big campaign donations from Fannie and Freddie. Over $200 million had been spent on lobbying and political activities. During the 1990’s Fannie and Freddie enjoyed a subsidy of as musch as $182 Billion, most of it going to principals and shareholders, not poor borrowers as claimed.
    Did it work? Minorities made up 49% of the 12.5 million new homeowners but many of those loans have gone bad and the minority homeownership rates are shrinking fast.
    1999: New Treasury Secretary, Lawrence Summers, became alarmed at Fannie and Freddie’s excesses. Congress held hearings the ensuing year but nothing was done because Fannie and Freddie had donated millions to key congressmen and radical groups, ensuring no meaningful changes would take place. “We manage our political risk with the same intensity that we manage our credit and interest rate risks,” Fannie CEO Franklin Raines, a former Clinton official and current Barack Obama advisor, bragged to investors in 1999.
    2000: Secretary Summers sent Undersecretary Gary Gensler to Congress seeking an end to the “special status”. Democrats raised a ruckus as did Fannie and Freddie, headed by politically connected CEO’s who knew how to reward and punish. “We think that the statements evidence a contempt for the nation’s housing and mortgage markets” Freddie spokesperson Sharon McHale said. It was the last chance during the Clinton era for reform.
    2001: Republicans try repeatedly to bring fiscal sanity to Fannie and Freddie but Democrats blocked any attempt at reform; especially Rep. Barney Frank and Sen.Chris Dodd who now run key banking committees and were huge beneficiaries of campaign contributions from the mortgage giants.
    2003: Bush proposes what the NY Times called “the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago”. Even after discovering a scheme by Fannie and Freddie to overstate earnings by $10.6 billion to boost their bonuses, the Democrats killed reform.
    2005: Then Fed chairman Alan Greenspan warns Congress: “We are placing the total financial system at substantial risk”. Sen. McCain, with two others, sponsored a Fannie/Freddie reform bill and said, “If congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system and the economy as a whole”. Sen. Harry Reid accused the GOP ;of trying to “cripple the ability of Fannie and Freddie to carry out their mission of expanding homeownership” The bill went nowhere.
    2007: By now Fannie and Freddie own or guarantee over HALF of the $12 trillion US mortgage market. The mortgage giants, whose executive suites were top-heavy with former Democratic officials, had been working with Wall St. to repackage the bad loans and sell them to investors. As the housing market fell in ’07, subprime mortgage portfolios suffered major losses. The crisis was on, though it was 15 years in the making.
    2008: McCain has repeatedly called for reforming the behemoths, Bush urged reform 17 times. Still the media have repeated Democrats’ talking points about this being a “Republican” disaster. A few Republicans are complicit but Fannie and Freddie were created by Democrats, regulated by Democrats, largely run by Democrats and protected by Democrats. That’s why taxpayers are now being asked for $700 billion!!

  4. God do I love hearing how everything is the Democrats fault. After all we’ve only had eight years of Republican domination in government. Don’t feel bad though in 50 or 60 years we will be talking about all of the great things the Geo W. Bush administration accomplished.

  5. Hey, lets privitize social security. I’m sure that the returns that we would get from Wall Street investments would be way better than the returns from the government. A definite BUSH PLAN for change.

  6. There can be fault put equally on both sides! The problem with the lead change I think is because of McCain’s repeated belief that the economy is stable and strong. His second mistake was Governor Palin, (really she should bow out gracefully). Governor Palin is afraid to tell what papers or magazines she reads, or does not know, or worse case scenario she does not read. There have been so many mistakes, some Republicans are leaving the McCain Camp. It is an embarrassment to McCain, to women, and the sad part is there are many women he could have chose that would be able to hold there own and help the ticket. Whomever guided McCain should be sent home and if it was John McCain, then fix the problem….now.

  7. Lol. You Palin lovers just go right ahead and gripe and rationalize and blame the press! It doesn’t really matter. After she and McCain lose, she will rapidly fade into obscurity, a footnote to the election and a historical oddidty.So knock yourselves out Sarah fans. You never heard of her a month ago, and won’t remember her a year from now..

  8. Don’t let your old father watch this debate whether he’s dem or rep. Seriously. The type of emotion you can have by watching it can damage his aorta or yours after a while because this is life matter and every person with a half brain, as somebody suggested somewhere, has understood that we need Obama as a president to manage “THIS HORRIBLE CRISIS”. Listen, there is nothing to force, proof watch what the economy is reserving you in the coming 4 weeks. Nobody wants to fake anything with this matter anymore. It’s about people’s future and next year can proceed with the biggest arrest of all the time by february or later may I predict! “It will be due by hiden things” People that have never been arrested can be arrested for the first time! And those who have been hiding will be put to light. This country has very good law makers, lawyers, judges and people with dignity, honnor, honnesty and probity who are not going to let this country being trashed; proud americans who mary their daughters and turn their sons to respectable citizens are still there. Don’t kick your dog too much, it will return and bite you as a stranger, even worst. Ask dogs owners and watch “unleashed”. This to say that even republicans are seing cristal clear about that. Where is your treasure, where your heart dwells. Economy is the heart.

  9. Palin is a total airhead!

    Scary to think that she could be a heartbeat away from the White House!!!

    Really Scary…Iranians must be laughing their heads off.

  10. Sarah Palin can’t treat Foreign Policy as if she’s cramming for a high school test. It takes years of experience, and FOREIGN TRAVEL, to know and understand the delicacies of dealing with the heads of state. She just doesn’t have it, and we don’t want a VP to be trained on the job!!!

  11. The person who wrote this long rant against the democrats ;is so obviously a republican. You can not go back 20 or 30 years and blame the economy problems on dems. The republicans have been in hog heaven the lAST 8 YEARS AND HAVE DONE NOTHING BUT SCREW UP THE ECONOMY, THE PUBLIC DEBT, OUR STANDING IN THE WORLD, AND TAKEN AWAY AS MANY OFOUR RIGHTS AS THEY COULD.

  12. Please let Sarah Palin go off and take care of her family and the State of Alaska, that is a stone’s throw from Russia. What an earth is she thinking when she indicates that Alaska’s proximity to Russia means she understands geo-politics and international affairs? She apparently has not even been to the one place in Alaska from where you can see a piece of Russia. All quite incredible!! Love it: pageantry versus policy.

  13. I have the feeling somehow that tomorrow night Palin will have rehearsed so much and been crammed full of information that it will appear that she knows what she is talking about when she really doesn’t. I hope Americans don’t watch her and decide that oh, yeah, she really does know what she is saying. Don’t be fooled! Palin still is behind the times, she still is cruel with her views on wild animals..she needs to definitely step down. She is ambitious and unless forced to step down, she won’t. She is too full of herself and has too big of an ego to do so on her own.

  14. The sleeping Tiger has arisen – American people have finally woken up from their Bush Induced coma. This banking thing was the last straw. NOW they are realizing that indeed “Pagentry vs Policy” is no way to run a country. Nor is a secret, screw the will of the people government good for anyone. The Bush administration and their ilk will finally be brought to task – thank God. When the vast and sundry secrets and lies are fully exposed – the world will shudder and a great cry will go out across the world against Bush, Cheney et. al. The best thing they evcer did was essentially kill the present demonic incarnation of the GOP (Greedy Old Pigs). Perhaps Lincoln can finally stopp spinning in his grave. I hope they don’t ever rest in peace – they need to be indicted, tried and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law FOR EACH AND EVERY CRIMNE – including MURDER of American Soldiers and 100’s of thousand of Iraqis. IF (right, if…) Cheney or his many minions has destroyed records – assume the worst and hag ’em high. WE HAVE FINALLY WOKEN UP AND THERE IS NO MERCY – THE TRUTH IS COMING TO LIGHT. THOSE OF US WHO USE OUR BRAINS WERE ALREADY AWAKE – BNUT FINALLY THE RANK & FILE GOP HAVE AS WELL. Jail ’em all and throw away the key. NO GOING BACK.

  15. If you think this crisis occured because of the last 8 years, you don’t follow history. For the American banking industry to fail in such a large scale was 20 years in the making. This didn’t occur because of Iraq, GWOT, or just the republicans… this is a product of our government and the “swindle everybody, just give me mine” attitude of a large number of our governmental leaders…

    This bail out is wrong. If they want to help people… give each tax paying household 300,000 dollars, let us pay off our debt, deposit or spend the rest. The money will be back in the banks one way or another and the people of America will be in better shape.

    For your information… it did start with the deregualtion under the Carter admin, and worsened under the Clinton admin’s watch and just last year Beans’n Frank said FM and FMac were fine…

    ps… I am a BlueDog democrat and our congressional leaders are not worth pissing on if they were on fire.

  16. Every GOOD teacher tells you NEVER to cram – learn and process and digest the information slowly as you go along. CRAMMING only leads to confusion. I think MOST people have finally seen what she is – the woman behind the curtain – and Todd Palin is the man behind the woman. DON”T GET LOST in her endless sea of empty words.

  17. Sure… it takes an airhead to be a govenor… maybe it is time for your refil of reality.

    I guess it is OK with you that Obama’s economic adviser is the former CEO of Fannie Mae, that was fined $50 million dollars for banking fraud in connection with illegal accounting practices at FM… oh, that was only $50mil or the $240 mil severence/golden parachute package he got…

    I guess that doesn’t matter to you…

  18. Palin says what she is told.It is a known fact that they won’t let her speak,and gave her special debate rules limiting her speaking time.McCains reason was that he didn’t want her to feel “overwhelmed”.If speaking will overwhelm her,how the hell can she run the country or any part of government? She may sound like she knows what she’s talking about tomorrow.Hell,my 13 yr old could too,with enough cramming-as she is doing now.McCain is so far up Bush’s butt,he can see out his nose.He admitted 90% of the time,he voted with Bush,and Bush has made this mess we are in.McShame has also said he doesn’t understand the economy.Geez-he doesn’t even understand how many houses he owns.He wants this expensive war to go on indefinately.He repeatedly has cancer and he’s old.Failin’Palin should NOT be in the position to run the counrty!Especially when she thinks that Russia can be seen from her backyard!LOL

  19. I have nothing but contempt for those of you who make dismissive remarks about Sarah Palin and disparage her intelligence. All the evigence exposes you for the deceivers you so attempt to be. She has been a winner all her life. She ran for and won the Governorship of Alaska. It has the biggest oil supply in America. She recently put in a huge natural gas line to the lower 48 states. She has negotiated a financial bonus from the oil companies to every citizen in Alaska. She is the most popular governor in America (were you aware of this?) Unlike Biden and Obama, she “runs” a state as a chief executive. She meets with heads of state and CEO’s every day. As a girl, she sank two freethrows at the end of the game to win the state championship against the much bigger, state favorite. She has 5 kids and takes care of them, and she has a son in Iraq. She’s been a winner all her life, in everythinng she’s done. Those of you who call her names are slimply liberals filled with hatred–and you can’t stand a conservative woman who doesn’t believe in abortion–but does believe in God. She symbolizes everything that makes this country great. And as for those of you who hate her? You are simply “Losers.”

  20. Yes, yes, I guess you nailed us all with one swift swab of the broad, BROAD-stroking brush. Every single, last one of us who dislikes Palin has no real footing to stand on. We only dislike her because we , wait a minute, let me quote you verbatim… ” are slimply liberals filled with hatred.”

    Yeah, that’s it. It is exactly that simple.

    Wow. it will never seize to amaze me how “conservatives” dumb everything down to black and white or absolutes because their own brains can’t process much more beyond that. This kind of overgeneralized, oversimplified, tautological absolutism is exactly the kind of Bush BS that has dragged our nation down this ruinous path. And as hard as it is for me to admit this, I never thought I’d run across another person with as much mental bankruptcy as Bush, but Palin is scarily close!

    But of course none of our legitimate concerns about her matter to you, because like your president, you can’t be bothered with facts. You just need your “reliable gut,” God’s hand upon your shoulders justifying everything you do as his will, and the totally asinine fallacies of eighth graders.

    Hey, whatever makes it easier to live your life being you…

  21. “I have nothing but contempt for those of you who make dismissive remarks…those of you who call her names are simply liberals filled with hate…”

    Right. You have nothing but contempt yet we’re the ones filled with hate. You should learn to proofread your moronic drivel before you post them for all the public to see your stupidity.

  22. Yes, right. Blame it on the Democrats. In the last 40 years the Democrats have been in office 12 years. That means the Republicans have been in office 28 years. The last 8 years have been Republican. 20 of the last 28 have been Republican. So yes, blame it on the Democrats.

    By the way, I am going to vote for Nader for the 3rd time in a row, so don’t accuse me of being a Democrat. Ask me why? Becuase I refuse to caste my vote before swine, i.e., the two candidates who represent the two-party ruling class consensus. I have never in 32 years of presidential elections (since 1976) voted for presidential candidate of the two corporate, ruling class, bought-and-paid for capitalist/imperialist parties.

    But is fun watching the rest of you going through your contorsions trying to decide which of these ruling class vetted candidates you support. Be assured of one thing. Both will betray you in the end.

  23. If I had a nickel for every time Clinton and the Democrats were blamed for every problem that pops up , I would be rich.The Republicans have controlled the White House for the past seven years and the Congress for twelve of the past fourteen years! During those twelve years they were in control not one regulatory reform was passed. People can say anything they want, but wouldn’t be nice if they acknowledged this fact.

  24. Are you talking about Jim Johnson? He is NOT an economic advisor to Obama. He was an unpaid volunteer who was part of the committee wetting vice presidential choices. When the controversy arose, he graciously resigned. He last – what – 2 weeks?
    On McCain’s side, his campaign director is Rick Davis, who was (?is?) the chief lobbyist for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. And HE HAS NOT RESIGNED.
    Furthermore, there are 177 identifiable lobbyists in his campaign staff
    Guess who has more ties to the current economic crisis? Guess who is more beholden to all the lobbyists in Washington? (Hint – he’s not black.)

  25. To me it is very simple folks…
    The Republican crooks in Washington want to take our money and enrich the chosen few upper 10% types their friends etc.
    The Democrat crooks want to take their share of our money and let everyone have a chance at doing better.
    Unless you are in the upper 10 you have to vote for the Democrat crooks…

  26. Palin will not be “leading” this country out of anything at all, the President will. But speaking of intellectually bereft, Carter and Clinton come to mind and they WERE elected “President” and did make an attempt to lead the country and they, like Palin, had zero experience in foreign affairs and, like Palin, were governors of their respective states. So, what “league” is she out of anyway? The democraps are very much afraid of Palin, so is the liberal press and therefore can’t criticize her with anything of substance other than a deftly created Couric script intentionally written to berate her and intentionally make her look the fool that she isn’t. I’d forget even my name under those same circumstances. She did quite well in the interview even though she couldn’t, under immense pressure, remember any other legislation than RvW, even those she campaigned for previously. If she sticks to short, to the point, answers, she’ll do just fine. But if Biden is the usual “motor mouth” and unable to speak coherently because his foot is in his mouth (as usual), the democraps will be in a heap of trouble.

  27. So it sounds like you are in favor of socialism….

    All the bad things said about Gov. Palin are true when applied to Obama.

    Some of you fail to realize that Congress is more to blame for the economy then the Executive Branch. How many years have the Dems been in charge of Congress?

    Prepare for Jimmy Carter II if Obama is elected, remember (those of you old enough) double digit inflation, Iran hostages, etc.

  28. Considering McCain is the Pagent Host who brought the picture perfect hot mom out to begin with, I think it’s clear he put pagentry before policy.

  29. You stated that Carter and Clinton, the last two Democrats who were President who were also governors, were ‘intellectually bereft’ and you defended Palin from that big, bad, mean Katie Couric. You also stated that Palin’s experience stacks up with those two. Hmmmm, let’s take a look:

    Clinton-Went to Georgetown, then became a Rhodes Scholar and attended Oxford after graduation, and then got his law degree from Yale Law School. After a short time as a law professor at University of Arkansas, he became Arkansas Attorney General in 1976 and then was elected governor in 1978 (at the age of 32) and after losing the election in 1980, regained the governorship in ’82 and served an additional 10 years before being elected President.

    Carter-Attended the Naval Academy, where he graduated 59th out of 820 and served 6+ years as a naval officer before his dad died. After taking over his family business and making it a successful peanut farm, he then served two terms in the Georgia Senate. He lost his first bid for governor in 1966, but won in 1970. While governor and prior to running for President, he served as a chairman of the DNC.

    Palin-Attended Hawaii Pacific College for a semester, then North Idaho community college for 2 semesters, then attended University of Idaho where she graduated in 1987 (thought she did leave Idaho for a semester to go to a community college in Alaska). During this time she became Miss Wasilla. She became a sports reporter for an Anchorage TV station post-grad. She was elected to the city council of Wasilla in 1992 and became mayor in 1996, serving until 2002. Wasilla had 6300 residents at the time. She was defeated in her attempt at being elected lieutenant governor in ’02 but was elected governor of Alaska in ’06.

    So, there you go. You make the decision on if their resumes stack up the same. We won’t even discuss the facts that both Carter and Clinton spent years abroad prior to even running for anykind of office or anything they’ve done once they became president or after. My opinion is you look stupid for trying to make the comparison between these two men and Palin. Dubya, on the other hand…

  30. They have been in charge for 2 years without a veto proof majority. The senate republicans have used the filibuster over 80 times in 2 years to stop all democratic legislation they did not approve of to say nothing about the idiot in the white house with his veto power.
    Before you respond you should check your facts.

  31. It’s amazing how Sarah Palin is attracting the least informed members of our society. Rowe vs. Wade was NOT legislation, it was a supreme ct decision. I assume you know the difference but mabe you don’t. Your comparing her qualifications to those of Clinton and Carter is equally ludicrous. They both competed in contested national primaries in order to win their parties nomination. Do you really think Palin could have won the nomination if she had to go that route?

  32. Well, having read through all of the comments thus far, I have to say that thsoe defending the “Palin and McCain Administration” love nothing more than to give half the story…the half that Sean Hannity and McCain’s campaign tells them to go forth and spread.

    And let’s not bother at all with the facts. Facts, like your “great leader” Bush likes to say, only get in the way.

    Keep trying. Maybe if you repeat idiocy enough, people will believe it. And why not, so many have bought it for the past seven years…

  33. Obama is right in most places, except on Afghanistan and Pakistan. That war is illegal and a crime on the people of Afghanistan and Pakistan. McCain is wrong everywhere, including in the selection of Palin (the most ignorant political candidate I have ever seen, tells a bit about McCain’s judgement skills) but on Pakistan. Pakistan is the only country outside the war zones (Bush’s adventrues) that have been affected the most and helped the most. Its time we all help the country’s resources instead of helping India with nuclear weaponery and technology (its almost making fun of the nuclear non-proliferation).

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