Debunking the Fox News Obama International Aid Oil Spill Lie

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Over the last two days various Fox News personalities including Bill O’Reilly, Glenn Beck, and Sarah Palin has been pushing a new falsehood that Barack Obama turned down international aid for the Gulf oil spill. While trying to play up the Obama’s inept narrative the FNC crew neglected to mention that Canada, Germany, Mexico, Netherlands, Norway are all in the Gulf.

Fox News opened the day yesterday with Glenn Beck spreading the lie on Fox and Friends:

Beck said that Obama,”needs to explain why we haven’t — why we turned down all the international help. They offered it within a couple of days. We said no.”

Of course if Beck said it, then Palin had to run with it as she did last night on The O’Reilly Factor:

Palin said, “What the federal government should have done was accept the assistance of foreign countries; of entrepreneurial Americans who have solutions that they wanted presented they can’t even get a phone call returned. The Dutch they are known and the Norwegians, they are known for dikes and for cleaning up water and for dealing with spills. They offered to help and yet no they too, with the proverbial can’t even get a phone call back. That is what the Norwegians are telling us, and what the Dutch are telling us, and then the entrepreneurial Americans, the company in Maine that has the boom and the absorbents.”

The story was told again tonight on The O’Reilly Factor by Dick Morris and Bill O’Reilly via Media Matters:

Morris said, “We didn’t get foreign ships in because he still hasn’t waved the stupid Jones Act.”

The only part of the Fox News story that is true is that the Jones Act has not been waved, but as a press release from the Unified Command for the BP Oil Spill noted yesterday, “Currently, 15 foreign-flagged vessels are involved in the largest response to an oil spill in U.S. history. No Jones Act waivers have been granted because none of these vessels have required such a waiver to conduct their operations in the Gulf of Mexico… Even if the Jones Act applies, a foreign flagged vessel can still conduct certain planned operations as part of the BP oil spill response if the vessel is an oil spill response vessel and meets the requirements of 46 USC § 55113.”

What about those Norwegians that Sarah Palin was so upset about last night? Well it turns out that they are already there along with several other countries. Once again, from the Unified Command, “To date, the administration has leveraged assets and skills from numerous foreign countries and international organizations as part of this historic, all-hands-on-deck response, including Canada, Germany, Mexico, Netherlands, Norway, the United Nations’ International Maritime Organization and the European Union’s Monitoring and Information Centre. In some cases, offers of international assistance have been turned down because the offer didn’t fit the needs of the response.”

Surprise, surprise, Fox News is not telling their viewers the truth. FNC has a masterful ability to keep repeating a lie until it is accepted as truth by their audience. The Fox News agenda is to turn Obama into George W. Bush. The newest lie about the president turning down international aid fits in with their two year old narrative that Barack Obama is in over his head, which is why voters need to put the GOP back in charge.

The disheartening element to all of this is that there are a couple of million people who watch Fox News every day and the majority of them don’t understand that they are being brainwashed by right wing propaganda. All that the rest of us can do is stay vigilant and be ready to debunk the mistruths of Fox News at all times, and hopefully we can expose Fox News for what it really is and open people’s eyes, even if it is only one viewer at a time.

25 Replies to “Debunking the Fox News Obama International Aid Oil Spill Lie”

  1. Jason, please do not correct Sarah’s inept way of speaking.
    Sarah actually said: “The Dutch, they are known, and the Norwegian, they are known for um for dikes and for cleaning up water and for dealing with spills.”

    She did not say the Norwegians. She said the Norwegian. It would not surprise me if she were to say the “Netherlandians and the Norway people”. Needless to say, geography and demographics are severely lacking in Sarah’s little world. The only nationality Sarah knows is “rill (white) Amurikkkans”. She doesn’t know the difference between Iran and Iraq, would she call them the Iranis and the Iraqians? And in her pithy little mind, all blacks are Africans, from the country of Africa.

    As Keith Olbermann says: “That woman…is an idiot.“

  2. It was actually BP who politely refused initial requests for help from other countries, not Obama. This was before the magnitude of the disaster had begun to sink in.

    It was not unlike offering condolences to someone who had just lost a family member in a tragic accident…the initial shock precludes that the person is unable to process their long-term needs.

    It was Obama’s team that pushed BP toward utilizing all available resources, including those from other countries.

    A little “Intro to Journalism 101” might help Fox do a better job. Hope they’re studying hard for the midterm…they need to get that grade point up or they’re gonna fail the class.

  3. I went to the web site you cited. It was dated 6/15/10. It says, and you reiterate that “Currently” the vessels are in the gulf.
    Fox news was reporting that 3 days after the spill we turned down help from other countries. That would have been APRIL 23, 2010, right after the spill. How much less oil do you think would have hit the coast if we’d tried cleaning it up, getting it out of the water, right away??? I contend it would have made a HUGE difference in the amount of oil the states are seeing today at the coast. But then again, that’s just my opinion.
    The all hands on deck approach is correct… it just should have been started from the beginning.

    I did a little checking, and found an article on dated 6/10/10 by Brian Wilson stating:
    “Foreign companies possessing some of the world’s most advanced oil skimming ships say they are being kept out of efforts to clean up the spill in the gulf because of a 1920s law known as the Jones Act.”

    It goes on to say the Coast Guard says some foreign technology is being used “but that is largely technology transferred to US vessels. … Some of the best cleanup ships are NOT being used.”

    Maybe you’ll believe them.

  4. I forgot to give my source., and the article was called JONES ACT SLOWING OIL SPILL CLEANUP?”

  5. @Sara’s friend,

    As you may or may not be aware, that was BP who turned down help. See, BP was in charge at that point.

    Maybe they don’t tell you guys this stuff on Fox? I’m not trying to be mean, it’s just that at some point, Fox viewers need to chose to either stay in the bubble of misinformation or open their minds, at which point they will discover that they’ve been lied to for a long time and it will most likely be a moment of crisis for anyone with any integrity.

    The news is in a bad way all over, but Fox is not even news. This is a fact, not opinion.

  6. @Sara’s friend, My bad. Told you I was new to this! The CNN site had moved me over to your obviously hated Fox News site. I just realized it when I was closing some windows to do some work. Sorry about the mix up. BUT the story is still the same. I just don’t think you’ll believe it as much coming from them.

  7. @Sara’s friend,

    Why, just because Fox does political activism for Republicans and allows them to be hosts on TV shows when they are running for office and reads the RNC talking points straight off their memos without fact checking them?

    What’s to question?


    Someone pointed out — the story isn’t the same, Obama was not in charge, LEGALLY he can not be in charge of the clean up. Don’t know when people are going to get that. IT’s the law. He is to direct the clean up, direct BP, but not in charge, can’t call the shots.

  8. Scarah Palin, GOP VP candidate and Presidential Contender for 2012:

    “What I am telling you is that is not what I’m hearing, what the American public is hearing from the top official in our government and that’s why those poll numbers show that no, the public… we don’t know where to turn if we can’t trust BP to be able to fix this leak, we know we can’t trust government because they’ve had eight weeks of overseeing, of regulating, and of kind of um coaching this whole process, this whole issue of stopping the leak and they haven’t succeeded in doing it. So the people are very frustrated and no, we have to know that President Obama’s number one priority is to stop the leak.”

    Yes, the govt has had 8 weeks of overseeing…er, no, because she meant regulating…but no, government doesn’t just start to regulate NOW, see, the oil is ALREADY GUSHING NOW SARAH. And yes, govt doesn’t oversee and regulate NOW, because according to the LAW brought on by her own state’s oil spill, BP is in charge of clean up.

    So, Sarah advocates for no oversight and no regulation, and then she thinks it’s Obama’s job to stop a leak NO ONE IN THE WORLD can stop, rather than admit drill baby drill is a fucking LIE?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????? and the Puke party is running this mental midget liar for office? AGAIN????


  9. Just a note from your friendly fox news station… Congressman Djou (HI) says some ships from Canada, Mexico and Belgium have not been able to help because of the Jones Act.

    And Maritime Law Professor Martin Davis said in US waters not all ships would qualify… “If they brought in oil tankers to store the oil in, foreign flag oil tankers, then there would need to be a Jones Act waiver for them.”
    (from me) Thad Allen has said the process for waivers would be streamlined.

    I’m confused though… Thad Allen also said the other day there were some 5,000+ ships in the gulf. Why don’t we ever see them when the reporters from various news stations are filming? I keep looking and looking. If there were that many, you’d think we’d get a peek at some of them sometime! I’ve even emailed several news stations in the past weeks & asked them to show us the ships working on cleaning up the gulf, telling them the people need to see them! I just keep seeing the same file footage over & over of a couple of large ships, even on different channels. Have you seen more than I have?

  10. @EnglishSaddle, Just so I can figure this all out, who do you guys trust as a news person on TV? Certainly you don’t think Chris Matthews is impartial! He does political activism for the Democrats, so what’s the difference?

    And who at Fox is running for office and hosting a show? And before you rip me up any more, by accusing me of not having integrity, I watch several news stations. I apologized for my mistake, & corrected it the minute I found out.

  11. @Sara’s friend, Let me guess here. You are trying to say there are not 5000 ships in the Gulf becuase you dont see them on the news?

  12. @ProChoiceGrandma, Sorry, sometimes I do it out of habit. She…just….doesn’t….make….sense. :)

  13. Let me make myself clear here. I want the oil cleaned up just like you & everyone else in the country. Number 1 priority, I want as much oil collected out in the gulf as possible. I want as many barges or tankers as possible out there sucking it up. And what has already gotten near or on shore, I would like to see the many intelligent American people’s and companies’ ideas used to clean it up. I’ve seen some great ideas! So let’s buy their products(BP or whoever), so they can hire some people, and we can help ourselves out of the financial mess we’re in and clean up the gulf at the same time. I think we should try every idea. The ones I’ve seen have been safe for people & animals. Let’s get our country working again!

    Let’s not worry about union or non-union. And if another country has a great idea or tool, I think we should use it. We have too many gov agencies getting in the way of solving the clean up process. If there are 5000 boats out there & they’re not getting it done, then let’s get 5000 more. But let’s get after it in a huge way! I wish it could have happened a month ago, but it didn’t, so let’s do it NOW, not next week!

  14. The difference between Chris Matthews and Fox news is this—Chris is not trying to pretend his opinions are facts. He is quite obviously telling you what his opinions are, and showing you the facts behind his conclusions. You can agree or disagree. FOX news however, tells you that what they are giving you are facts, when in reality, they are giving you opinions, and you are shown choice bits of visual aid to bolster there scheme. I don’t want to chastise or “rip you up”. I hope you don’t feel that I have done so. I really just want to explain the bottom line of why Fox is so hated.

  15. Now there is something we can agree on! Let’s just remember that some countries may want to help, but what they offer isn’t what is needed, and will have to be turned down (maybe to be called upon later), and that sometimes too many people in the kitchen makes for a big fiasco. Can’t let everyone help at the same time, but maybe need to spread the help out over time, by telling some to come help later after the ones who are present go home..

  16. @Shiva: Are you trying to say that, even though no footage released from the controlled Gulf region has even hinted at an armada of ships that size, that you just “blindly take Obama & BP’s word” on it? The FAA even restricted flights in the area a couple of weeks ago, effectively suppressing the ability of media (independent or mainstream) from actually photographing anything going on there. Of course, before the FAA lockdown, average everyday pilots did make flights over the spill & posted on You Tube….

    Which is exactly why I was TOTALLY SURPRISED when Obama laid out that “5000” (-plus) number during his Tues speech last week. 5000? –Is he counting the regular shipping traffic that occurs every day to the 5000+ oil refineries still in operation throughout this crisis? (The “moratorium” was not on ‘all drilling’, but only ‘new drilling in deepwater’.)

    I find it amusing that everyone’s just accepting this 5000 number without any sort of evidence. Although, we do have evidence that the spill just keeps going and GOING (with only Kostner’s magic ‘oil separator’ machines providing any future hope in sight of stopping). And, if there really are that many ships out there (5000!), then the Obama press team is totally incompetent, because footage of that kind of activity would go a long way toward easing peoples’ concerns that not enough is being done.

    I’m neither Republican or Democrat, btw. So, I certainly would hope that Obama is being truthful. However, if you read the recent Rolling Stone article, other publishing & facts starting to appear on the web … he & his administration HAVE NOT been truthful AT ALL about the government’s initial analysis of the crisis, nor of his administration’s supposed previous efforts to reform the Bush administration’s lenient regulation policy. ..But, hey: 5000+ ships? –Sure, must be, right?

  17. Well, perhaps if you read what I wrote, I neither denied or supported the 5000 ships.

    I simply asked if the person of note that I responded to was denying that the ships were NOT there becuase he couldn’t see them on the news. He since ran from his earlier position.

    I am sorry, I am not going to feed your conspiracy theory’s. If you think Obama has lied and its important to you, produce some evidence instead of calling him a liar..

    I have googled the 5000 ships thing and can not find a single place where it was said. I went through several Thad Allen press interviews, I googled Obama, 5000 ships and got nothing. Every time I googled 5000 ships it comes out 5000 feet below the surface.

    In fact, I have here the text of the presdient speech last tuesday and there is no mention of the 5000 ships. You might want to check and see what the kids are putting in your pipe

    Text of President Barack Obama’s Oval Office address Tuesday on the Gulf oil spill, as transcribed by CQ Transcriptions:

    Good evening. As we speak, our nation faces a multitude of challenges. At home, our top priority is to recover and rebuild from a recession that has touched the lives of nearly every American. Abroad, our brave men and women in uniform are taking the fight to al-Qaida wherever it exists.

    And tonight, I’ve returned from a trip to the Gulf Coast to speak with you about the battle we’re waging against an oil spill that is assaulting our shores and our citizens.

    On April 20, an explosion ripped through BP Deepwater Horizon drilling rig, about 40 miles off the coast of Louisiana. Eleven workers lost their lives. Seventeen others were injured. And soon, nearly a mile beneath the surface of the ocean, oil began spewing into the water.

    Because there’s never been a leak this size at this depth, stopping it has tested the limits of human technology. That’s why, just after the rig sank, I assembled a team of our nation’s best scientists and engineers to tackle this challenge, a team led by Dr. Steven Chu, a Nobel Prize-winning physicist and our nation’s secretary of energy. Scientists at our national labs and experts from academia and other oil companies have also provided ideas and advice.

    As a result of these efforts, we’ve directed BP to mobilize additional equipment and technology. And in the coming weeks and days, these efforts should capture up to 90 percent of the oil leaking out of the well. This is until the company finishes drilling a relief well later in the summer that’s expected to stop the leak completely.

    Already, this oil spill is the worst environmental disaster America has ever faced. And unlike an earthquake or a hurricane, it’s not a single event that does its damage in a matter of minutes or days. The millions of gallons of oil that have spilled into the Gulf of Mexico are more like an epidemic, one that we will be fighting for months and even years.

    But make no mistake: We will fight this spill with everything we’ve got for as long it takes. We will make BP pay for the damage their company has caused. And we will do whatever’s necessary to help the Gulf Coast and its people recover from this tragedy.

    Tonight, I’d like to lay out for you what our battle plan is going forward: what we’re doing to clean up the oil, what we’re doing to help our neighbors in the Gulf and what we’re doing to make sure that a catastrophe like this never happens again.

    First, the cleanup.

    From the very beginning of this crisis, the federal government has been in charge of the largest environmental cleanup effort in our nation’s history, an effort led by Admiral Thad Allen, who has almost 40 years of experience responding to disasters. We now have nearly 30,000 personnel who are working across four states to contain and clean up the oil.

    Thousands of ships and other vessels are responding in the Gulf. And I’ve authorized the deployment of over 17,000 National Guard members along the coast. These servicemen and women are ready to help stop the oil from coming ashore, they’re ready to help clean the beaches, train response workers or even help with processing claims, and I urge the governors in the affected states to activate these troops as soon as possible.

    Because of our efforts, millions of gallons of oil have already been removed from the water through burning, skimming and other collection methods. Over 5.5 million feet of boom has been laid across the water to block and absorb the approaching oil. We’ve approved the construction of new barrier islands in Louisiana to try to stop the oil before it reaches the shore, and we’re working with Alabama, Mississippi and Florida to implement creative approaches to their unique coastlines.

    As the cleanup continues, we will offer whatever additional resources and assistance our coastal states may need.

    Now, a mobilization of this speed and magnitude will never be perfect, and new challenges will always arise. I saw and heard evidence of that during this trip. So if something isn’t working, we want to hear about it. If there are problems in the operation, we will fix them.

    But we have to recognize that, despite our best efforts, oil has already caused damage to our coastline and its wildlife. And sadly, no matter how effective our response is, there will be more oil and more damage before this siege is done.

    That’s why the second thing we’re focused on is the recovery and restoration of the Gulf Coast.

    You know, for generations, men and women who call this region home have made their living from the water. That living is now in jeopardy. I’ve talked to shrimpers and fishermen who don’t know how they’re going to support their families this year. I’ve seen empty docks and restaurants with fewer customers, even in areas where the beaches are not yet affected.

    I’ve talked to owners of shops and hotels who wonder when the tourists might start coming back. The sadness and the anger they feel is not just about the money they’ve lost; it’s about a wrenching anxiety that their way of life may be lost.

    I refuse to let that happen. Tomorrow, I will meet with the chairman of BP and inform him that he is to set aside whatever resources are required to compensate the workers and business owners who have been harmed as a result of his company’s recklessness.

    And this fund will not be controlled by BP. In order to ensure that all legitimate claims are paid out in a fair and timely manner, the account must and will be administered by an independent third party.

    Beyond compensating the people of the Gulf in the short term, it’s also clear we need a long-term plan to restore the unique beauty and bounty of this region. The oil spill represents just the latest blow to a place that’s already suffered multiple economic disasters and decades of environmental degradation that has led to disappearing wetlands and habitats.

    And the region still hasn’t recovered from Hurricanes Katrina and Rita. That’s why we must make a commitment to the Gulf Coast that goes beyond responding to the crisis of the moment.

    I make that commitment tonight.

    Earlier, I asked Ray Mabus, the secretary of the Navy, who’s also a former governor of Mississippi and a son of the Gulf Coast, to develop a long-term Gulf Coast Restoration Plan as soon as possible. The plan will be designed by states, local communities, tribes, fishermen, businesses, conservationists and other Gulf residents. And BP will pay for the impact this spill has had on the region.

    The third part of our response plan is the steps we’re taking to ensure that a disaster like this does not happen again.

    A few months ago, I approved a proposal to consider new, limited offshore drilling under the assurance that it would be absolutely safe, that the proper technology would be in place and the necessary precautions would be taken.

    That obviously was not the case in the Deepwater Horizon rig, and I want to know why. The American people deserve to know why. The families I met with last week who lost their loved ones in the explosion, these families deserve to know why.

    And so I’ve established a national commission to understand the causes of this disaster and offer recommendations on what additional safety and environmental standards we need to put in place. Already I’ve issued a six-month moratorium on deepwater drilling.

    I know this creates difficulty for the people who work on these rigs, but for the sake of their safety and for the sake of the entire region, we need to know the facts before we allow deepwater drilling to continue. And while I urge the commission to complete its work as quickly as possible, I expect them to do that work thoroughly and impartially.

    Now, one place we’ve already begun to take action is at the agency in charge of regulating drilling and issuing permits, known as the Minerals Management Service.

    Over the last decade, this agency has become emblematic of a failed philosophy that views all regulation with hostility, a philosophy that says corporations should be allowed to play by their own rules and police themselves.

    At this agency, industry insiders were put in charge of industry oversight. Oil companies showered regulators with gifts and favors and were essentially allowed to conduct their own safety inspections and write their own regulations.

    And when Ken Salazar became my secretary of the interior, one of his very first acts was to clean up the worst of the corruption at this agency. But it’s now clear that the problem there ran much deeper and the pace of reform was just too slow.

    And so Secretary Salazar and I are bringing in new leadership at the agency: Michael Bromwich, who was a tough federal prosecutor and inspector general. And his charge over the next few months is to build an organization that acts as the oil industry’s watchdog, not its partner.

    So one of the lessons we’ve learned from this spill is that we need better regulations, better safety standards and better enforcement when it comes to offshore drilling. But a larger lesson is that, no matter how much we improve our regulation of the industry, drilling for oil these days entails greater risk.

    After all, oil is a finite resource. We consume more than 20 percent of the world’s oil but have less than 2 percent of the world’s oil reserves. And that’s part of the reason oil companies are drilling a mile beneath the surface of the ocean: because we’re running out of places to drill on land and in shallow water.

    For decades, we have known the days of cheap and easily accessible oil were numbered. For decades, we’ve talked and talked about the need to end America’s centurylong addiction to fossil fuels. And for decades, we have failed to act with the sense of urgency that this challenge requires.

    Time and again, the path forward has been blocked, not only by oil industry lobbyists, but also by a lack of political courage and candor.

    The consequences of our inaction are now in plain sight. Countries like China are investing in clean-energy jobs and industries that should be right here in America. Each day, we send nearly $1 billion of our wealth to foreign countries for their oil. And today, as we look to the Gulf, we see an entire way of life being threatened by a menacing cloud of black crude.

    We cannot consign our children to this future. The tragedy unfolding on our coast is the most painful and powerful reminder yet that the time to embrace a clean-energy future is now. Now is the moment for this generation to embark on a national mission to unleash America’s innovation and seize control of our own destiny.

    This is not some distant vision for America. The transition away from fossil fuels is going to take some time. But over the last year- and-a-half, we’ve already taken unprecedented action to jump-start the clean-energy industry.

    As we speak, old factories are reopening to produce wind turbines, people are going back to work installing energy-efficient windows and small businesses are making solar panels. Consumers are buying more efficient cars and trucks, and families are making their homes more energy-efficient. Scientists and researchers are discovering clean-energy technologies that someday will lead to entire new industries.

    Each of us has a part to play in a new future that will benefit all of us. As we recover from this recession, the transition to clean energy has the potential to grow our economy and create millions of jobs but only if we accelerate that transition, only if we seize the moment and only if we rally together and act as one nation: workers and entrepreneurs, scientists and citizens, the public and private sectors.

    You know, when I was a candidate for this office, I laid out a set of principles that would move our country toward energy independence. Last year, the House of Representatives acted on these principles by passing a strong and comprehensive energy and climate bill, a bill that finally makes clean energy the profitable kind of energy for America’s businesses.

    Now, there are costs associated with this transition, and there are some who believe that we can’t afford those costs right now. I say we can’t afford not to change how we produce and use energy, because the long-term costs to our economy, our national security and our environment are far greater.

    So I am happy to look at other ideas and approaches from either party – as long they seriously tackle our addiction to fossil fuels. Some have suggested raising efficiency standards in our buildings like we did in our cars and trucks. Some believe we should set standards to ensure that more of our electricity comes from wind and solar power. Others wonder why the energy industry only spends a fraction of what the high-tech industry does on research and development – and want to rapidly boost our investments in such research and development.

    All of these approaches have merit and deserve a fear hearing in the months ahead. But the one approach I will not accept is inaction. The one answer I will not settle for is the idea that this challenge is too big and too difficult to meet. You know, the same thing was said about our ability to produce enough planes and tanks in World War II. The same thing was said about our ability to harness the science and technology to land a man safely on the surface of the moon. And yet, time and again, we have refused to settle for the paltry limits of conventional wisdom. Instead, what has defined us as a nation since our founding is our capacity to shape our destiny – our determination to fight for the America we want for our children. Even if we’re unsure exactly what that looks like. Even if we don’t yet know precisely how we’re going to get there. We know we’ll get there.

    It is a faith in the future that sustains us as a people. It is that same faith that sustains our neighbors in the Gulf right now.

    Each year, at the beginning of shrimping season, the region’s fishermen take part in a tradition that was brought to America long ago by fishing immigrants from Europe. It’s called, “The Blessing of the Fleet,” and today it’s a celebration where clergy from different religions gather to say a prayer for the safety and success of the men and women who will soon head out to sea – some for weeks at a time. The ceremony goes on in good times and in bad. It took place after Katrina, and it took place a few weeks ago – at the beginning of the most difficult season these fishermen have ever faced.

    And still, they came and they prayed. For as a priest and former fisherman once said of the tradition, “the blessing is not that God has promised to remove all obstacles and dangers. The blessing is that He is with us always,” a blessing that’s granted “even in the midst of the storm.”

    The oil spill is not the last crisis America will face. This nation has known hard times before and we will surely know them again. What sees us through – what has always seen us through – is our strength, our resilience and our unyielding faith that something better awaits us if we summon the courage to reach for it. Tonight, we pray for that courage. We pray for the people of the Gulf. And we pray that a hand may guide us through the storm toward a brighter day. Thank you, God bless you, and may God bless the United States of America.

    Read more:

    best of luck to you.

  18. I had thought about this after the post, and remembered: No, Obama did not ‘explicitly’ say “5000”. What he did say (read your transcript above, and other transcripts) is that “Thousands of ships and other vessels are responding in the Gulf”. –Have you seen evidence since the beginning of “thousands” of ships?

    The “5000” number is actually “5900”, which was released pretty widely the following day on national media. It is still a figure being used by the “Unified Command for the BP Oil Spill” (the Govt’s official mouthpiece site):

    And NO, it’s not “conspiracy theory” (nice try) about the inaction of Obama’s Administration to prevent the breeding ground for this accident to occur. Please read this extensive mainstream article, here:

    It also well illuminates how the Govt was initially aware that the spill was MUCH larger than they let BP report all this time.

    You can love Obama until the entire State of Florida is surrounded by sludge water. Or, hey: love whomever you want to; Palin & the right-wing A-clowns aren’t speaking out about the continued use of the deadly toxin Corexit to disperse the oil, either (see that Unified Command link; as of 6/20, they are STILL pouring gallons of this crap into the already-toxic oil spill). No one in the mainstream political arena seems to be speaking out about what a lot of well-informed people are warning: that BP drilled (without proper safeguards) into a huge resovoir near a methane gas pocket. And, even if that doesn’t burst, …hurricane season is just around the corner. We don’t have time for BP & Obama’s snail’s pace of recovery.

    Which is why the “thousands” or “5900” numbers are important now. Because, there better well be that kind of fury of activity. If not, the storms are going to carry the oil and Corexit to all kinds of places that we don’t want that stuff going (as if it’s not already bad enough that it’s in … you know….water – that you can’t limit the travels of).

  19. Looks like the posting mechanism blocks weblinks. The First article referenced above is from Rolling Stone magazine online. Go to their website and search for “The Spill, The Scandal and the President” (or just buy the 6/24 issue with Jay Z on the cover).

    The second link is to the Govt’s cleanup site. “deepwaterhorizonresponse” They have an “Operations and Ongoing Response” page, by date, with a tally of ships & ‘vessels’ in active duty.

  20. @Damonous

    you know as well as I do that it was BPs accident to start cleaning up, not the government’s. As far as thousands of ships and vessels in the Gulf, you must know that BP has hired thousands of ships captains to put all booms and to do other things such as carrying supplies. At this point you have no idea if there are 5900 ships out there or not. You seem to have automatically taken the stance that there are not which is a conspiracy theory.

    It doesn’t matter to me if the government knew that the spill was bigger than what BP was reporting. The government was not telling BP what to report as you insinuate
    “t also well illuminates how the Govt was initially aware that the spill was MUCH larger than they let BP report all this time.” if the government has different facts than they will be used against BP when they get sued, because they will be paying by the quantity that was leaking. Not the quantity that they(BP) say was leaking.

    the government was at the drill site on the second day. You have not detailed in any manner and how the government was slow in its response. My search at the Rolling Stone website did not come up with any article. that does not however mean that I doubt your word is there.

    if you’re assigning responsibility for the cleanup to Obama then say so.if you’re assigning responsibility for the cleanup to BP then say so. If you are saying Obama lied then please detail the lie or lies. Because so far I’m just not sure what your problem is. so far all you have is pretty much apparent right-wing rhetoric

  21. Ok I found the article

    on the same day the Rolling Stone found out the administration to the numbers were higher they were reported by the government. You don’t have any information as to how long the administration had had higher numbers. they had to wait for the Flow Rate Technical Group’s analysis. conspiracy effort on your part.
    “In fact, according to interviews with team members and scientists familiar with its work, that figure represents the plume group’s minimum estimate. The upper range was not included in their report because scientists analyzing the flow were unable to reach a consensus on how bad it could be. ”

    The government admitted that he did not have sufficient urgency to put an emergency cleanup of the MMS department in place. he did have a man overhauling it but that was not complete.

    Having read the article there is no scandal there. the article says there has been no contact with the Atlantis rig which is bigger and deeper than the rate that blew up according to an unnamed source. I don’t buy that at all.

    “(AP) The company whose drilling triggered the Gulf of Mexico oil spill also owns a rig that operated with incomplete and inaccurate engineering documents, which one official warned could “lead to catastrophic operator error,” records and interviews show.

    In February, two months before the Deepwater Horizon spill, 19 members of Congress called on the agency that oversees offshore oil drilling to investigate a whistle-blower’s complaints about the BP-owned Atlantis, which is stationed in 7,070 feet of water more than 150 miles south of New Orleans. ”

    I’m not sure what you’re attempting here but I am sure that is a conspiracy theory

  22. Personally, I think you guys want to vilify the side that opposes your incompetent positions. What is real and What is viable is that the President took a sabbatical in regards to this disaster. A wise response would have been on day 2 or 3; The President offers his condolences to those who lost their lives on the BP oil rig, and has offered BP the full assistance of the US government. But as usual, the Messiah had no time to do anything but listen to his vocal cords reverberate.
    Thus Folks, the Fox News Network is not the problem, and Sarah Palin is the only voice of reason in the high political arena of this Failing Land.
    And who is in the Background pulling the strings of the “Hussein” Puppet????

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