How Glenn Beck Warped Extreme Liberal Thomas Paine into a Teabagger

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Government’s most essential obligation is to protect the people. Thomas Paine, who by any standard was no fan of government (he called it a “necessary evil”) understood this when he advocated a system of social programs by the English government on behalf of the poor and needy.

Glenn Beck dislikes government. He also dislikes social programs – such as Social Security, Medicaid and Medicare. Those who advocate such programs are, for Beck, “cockroaches.”

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Beck, a radical conservative, thinks he channels Paine, an interesting feat considering Paine was a radical liberal. Doubly interesting since Paine has been called, rightly, the “real father of social security” and is therefore by Beck’s definition, a cockroach.

Yes, Beck thinks Thomas Paine was a cockroach.

If you are truly interested in what Paine said, read Paine. Do not read Beck. You don’t see Beck discussing Paine’s view of Christianity and you won’t see him discussing what I am about to discuss here.

Paine’s views on government are not the whole picture: read The Age of Reason (1794) or The Rights of Man (1791-92) for starters.

In the latter, Paine speaks of “practical relief” (p. 335): “To pay as a remission of taxes to every poor family, out of the surplus taxes, and in room of poor-rates, four pounds a year for every child under fourteen years of age; enjoining the parents of such children to send them to school, to learn reading, writing, and common arithmetic…”

“Accepting this method,” he tells us, “not only the poverty of the parents will be relieved but ignorance will be banished from the rising generation, and the numbers of poor will hereafter become less, because their abilities, by the aid of education, will be greater.”

For the purposes of education Paine proposes (p. 338) “To allow for each of these children ten shillings a year for the expense of schooling, for six years each.”

Is Beck pro-education? No, Beck has taken the Pink Floyd song to heart; he says, “We don’t need no education.” He wants to abolish the Department of Education.

Conservatives like Beck see education as an example of “big government excess.” Clearly, Beck is not channeling Paine.

To deal with the problem of the aged, who were often worked to death, Paine argues that at 60 “his labour ought to be over.” Beck has never voiced his opposition to people being worked to death. In fact, he thinks the current retirement age should be raised.

Of course, Paine died penniless and was never rich. According to celebritynetworth.com, Beck made $32 million dollars in 2009.
Beck may not need retirement benefits (or care that others do) but Paine understood that common people were in need (p. 336) and suggests that every person from age 50-60 receive six pounds per year and every person over sixty, ten pounds per year. Paine also feels (p. 339) that newly married couples should receive 20 shillings and 20 more upon birth of a child to “relieve a great deal of instant distress.”

Contrast this Beck’s proposal to do away with Social Security. As well as Medicaid. And Medicare.

This support, Paine says, “is not of the nature of charity, but of a right (p. 337).

Beck shares the current Republican view that the poor and unemployed are poor and unemployed because they are undeserving, not because they are victims of social or economic injustices, or flawed Republican policy during the eight years of the Bush Administration.

Beck does not see Paine’s system of relief as a right at all, but a socialist plot to undermine America.

In Agrarian Justice (1795) Paine further developed the ideas put forward the Rights of Man and puts forward ideas of land redistribution!

Significantly, he states, “[T]he first principle of civilization ought to have been, and ought still to be, that the condition of every person born into the world, after a state of civilization commences, ought not to be worse than if he had been born before that period” (p. 475).

In words that must sting those conservatives who today attempt to co-opt Paine, he states:

“It is not a charity but a right, not bounty but justice, that I am pleading for. The present state of civilization is as odious as it is unjust. It is absolutely the opposite of what it should be, and it is necessary that a revolution should be made in it. The contrast of affluence and wretchedness continually meeting and offending the eye, is like dead and living bodies chained together” (p. 482).

It is no wonder that Thomas Paine argued that the burden of taxation falls unfairly on the poor (Rights of Man, 360). How different from the cry raised by the Tea Partiers and GOP, who claim that the burden of taxation falls unfairly on the rich!

“Government,” Paine said, “even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.” Thomas Paine wanted better government. He understood that government is necessary.

But conservatives like Beck seem to interpret Paine as saying that government is not necessary. The Tea Party is not the party of limited government but rather the party of no government. And Beck, who calls “progressivism” a disease, and a “cancer,” who says that progressives must be hunted down, fails to see that Paine himself, whom he claims to be channeling, was a progressive, one of the most progressive men of his time.

Paine cared about social and economic justice. Beck does not: “I beg you, look for the words ‘social justice’ or ‘economic justice’ on your church Web site. If you find it, run as fast as you can. Social justice and economic justice, they are code words.”

Beck does not channel Thomas Paine; he doesn’t understand Thomas Paine. As Bob Cesca writes, “Beck’s wicked awesome plan for saving the economy is to throw poor people and senior citizens over a ledge.”
As you can see, that was not Thomas Paine’s plan at all. He actually cared about the common man. Paine would have pulled them from the ledge, not pushed them over it.

All Paine quotes taken from The Thomas Paine Reader, ed. By Michael Foot and Isaac Kramnick (Penguin Books, 1987).

61 Replies to “How Glenn Beck Warped Extreme Liberal Thomas Paine into a Teabagger”

  1. I think this statement : “Glenn Beck dislikes government. He also dislikes social programs – such as Social Security, Medicaid and Medicare. Those who advocate such programs are, for Beck, “cockroaches.” ” simply really means in fact, it’s politically expedient for him to say this. I don’t think he has a real political agenda other than saying things that will fuel other peoples agendas.

    Thomas Paine was pretty clear that the common welfare of all people does belonged to the government. even if he didn’t like it he knew it.

    Just for once I would like to see the GOP and Glen Beck come right out and give us their picture of life without any social interactions such as Social Security health care and other things that we have. Would it be a life without libraries, without roads, I wonder how their beloved capitalism would work when the people are paid absolutely nothing to work.

    If they are so against the rights of people why don’t they ever come out and say what their idea of our life should be?

  2. Very nice post, Hraf. I did some writing on Thomas Paine in grad school and this quote always stands out to me. Paine argued that, “Government should be a national association acting on the principles of society.” The Beck/Tea Party view of Paine has taken the message of Common Sense, which opposed monarchy, and misapplied to today’s politics. Paine was an extreme extreme liberal who wished for a peaceful society guided by the Lockian heritage. He certain was not what Glenn Beck has made him out to be through distortion.

  3. Yeah, it’s impossible to tell how serious he is about anything he says. Either way, he’s selling a false bill of goods and I’m calling him out.

  4. Another great piece, Hraf. The revisionism going on via “conservatives” like Glenn Alcoholic Extraordinaire Beck is disconcerting to say the least.

  5. Thanks, Jason. Yeah, the poor man died penniless and despised for his extremist liberal views, and it just makes me ill to see Beck try to claim him for the conservative cause. The conservatives didn’t even want to rebel, let alone tear down the monarchy.

    My bet is Beck has never read Locke. Or any other philosopher. He certainly never studied Paine.

  6. Thank you, Sarah. I look forward to reading “Uncommon Nonsense” by Alexander Zaitchik. Looks like a good rebuttal of the Beck syndrome.

  7. The fact that Beck twists the words of people like Paine to suit his reactionary agenda is nothing new. In this case, though, he is attempting to twist the words of a man whose philosophy and principles were diametrically opposed to his own selfish, empathy-challenged, and backward-looking views. No one can be surprised that this is another example of the far right’s revisionist history.

  8. How is it that you people cannot understand that your social programs you love so much are tantamount to theft? Do you not see that you are taking from people whether it be money assets or rights?
    I want to ask you a sincere question. What did Bush ever do to you personally? Did he take money from you or increase the amount of money he took? Did he make it so you could not go to certain places or do certain things? Other than a war in which I doubt any of your relatives lost there lives in or even served in for that matter, there is nothing he did to effect your life individually, sure you didn’t agree with him and that made you mad but if anything he made your life better as a whole.
    In a year and a half I have had money, access to land, my healthcare dues have gone up, and the threat of an increase in housing energy cost by 300% (cap and trade) to name only a few. These are things that have personally effected me on an individual basis.
    I am a gun owning SUV driving hunting fishing 4wheeling mans man. To you I am not intelligent not elite not important. However, You will find that I represent the majority in this country and there will be a peaceful revolutionary change in this country the likes of which have never been seen. If you thought you were mad during Bush you aint seen nothing yet.

  9. Dearest Jak,
    It seems like there are two very different philosophies. One of selfishness and one empathy. You apparently feel that is something does not effect you directly it does not matter. Why should we care about a war if someone we know does not die in it? I still have my job, so why should I care when someone loses there’s? I don’t have kids, so why should I pay for schools? One day you may find yourself in a position when you need another’s help and I hope they are not as selfish as you are.

    ps. If you like toting guns so much and claim to be a patriot, why don’t you enlist?

  10. Jak,
    What has Bush done to me personally?

    He allowed the violation of one of my basic human rights, the right to privacy, by allowing warrantless monitoring of all of my electronic communication for at least the last 6 years. That’s a pretty big one, my friend.

    And your callousness in regard to the men and women who have sacrificed their lives in the conduct of two wars is really quite disgusting.

  11. “How is it that you people cannot understand that your social programs you love so much are tantamount to theft? Do you not see that you are taking from people whether it be money assets or rights?”

    So it was stealing when you where provided with an education for 12 years? This could have cost your neighbors $30K+!

    Is it stealing to set aside some of your own money for your retirement?

    Is it stealing to provide a base form of health care so people, including yourself, can lead productive lives even if they have a grieve illness?

  12. “How is it that you people cannot understand that your social programs you love so much are tantamount to theft? Do you not see that you are taking from people whether it be money assets or rights?”

    That’s not the point, Jak. The point is that Glenn Beck is lying about the content of Thomas Paine’s work. Beck does this to gain credibility from citing the founding thinkers of this great nation. He wants you to believe that these people, Washington, Jefferson, Paine, Franklin, &c, would agree with him. This is simply not true. Glenn Beck is simply lying, to you and everyone else. Whether social security is a good thing or not is beside the point, the point of this article is that Glenn Beck claims to oppose it in the name of a man who practically invented it.

    It is interesting that you declare that the threat of an imagined increase in energy costs has personally affected you, and yet you do not think that a very real waste of men and treasure has personally affected anyone who reads this blog. It is as if the idea that you might have to spend more money has more affect on your life than the fact that real young men and women are having their lives decimated, with repercussions that will be with us for a generation.

    You seem to be of the opinion that somehow, an increase in your healthcare premiums is the fault of the federal government, presumably because of legislation that hasn’t taken effect yet. And yet, you absolve George Bush entirely of any blame for a complete collapse of the housing and financial markets that took place during his presidency. Apparently, from your point of view, the fact that I was laid off from a business that was heavily dependent on the construction trade was a sign that my life was getting “better as a whole”. The fact that everyone who had money in a market index fund lost over half of their savings signifies, to you, a net increase in their well-being during Bush’s term in office.

    I can only assume that you blame this market collapse on Clinton, as he was the most recent Democrat in office, or on Congress after 2006, or, like Rush Limbaugh, you blame the collapse of the market in 2008 on Barak Obama, a man who didn’t take office until 2009.

  13. For further details on the actual role of government see:

    Similar to how Beck has tried to crowbar Paine into a form that suits his, Becks, needs; so does this article.
    The authors argument for these governmental agencies and forms of support, although supported by Paines principles, is not supported by Paines statement; as the writer of this article would have you believe.

    Paines states that the payments to the poor and destitute will come by way of “a remission of taxes” that has come from “the surplus taxes”. The “remission” Paine uses means to return something due to over payment. Same goes for the surplus. There is no mention in any of Paines writings of creating a tax, tariff, or lean with the intent of provided for the less fortunate. So, before we can support all Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid users, there must be a surplus of tax income to the government.
    For instance, A flat gross income tax of 10% is levied against all citizens. Then it comes out that only 9% tax would have been sufficient for the functioning of government that year. The additional 1% that came from every tax payer would then go to social programs. However, that one percent cannot be levied with the intent or purpose to pay for the social programs.

    For the purposes of education, Paine was decidedly local government. Paine never wrote that the Federal government should intrude on the process of education. For the United States, Paine stood for States right, and for France he held that the power was in the hands of districts and municipalities.

    The article author is accurate concerning Paines desires for what amount to pension and retirement. However, Paine, and the article writer, both note that a person should not be worked to death. This means the person must work in the first place.

  14. “The article author is accurate concerning Paines desires for what amount to pension and retirement. However, Paine, and the article writer, both note that a person should not be worked to death. This means the person must work in the first place.”

    I love seeing how a lot of conservatives have this idea that if you’re in the bottom 50%, it’s not because you’re working, but because you’re not working hard enough. I’ve never made six figures, but I’ve definitely worked minimum wage before. There are a lot of things you have to go without – like access to health care or decent, healthful food. It became such a part of my life that I still don’t go the doctor or eat properly like I should. (Bad habits are hard to break sometimes.)

    But that never stopped me from helping someone out if I could, or even a few times where I couldn’t really afford it. Like a previous commenter said, it’s about empathy. If you care about people, you don’t want to see them down and out, and you want to help them. I don’t want to offer a permanent teat to suckle off of, but I got by with the help of people, and I think that’s the truth of how the world gets by.

  15. Jak,
    I want to say, thanks for posting your comment. I completely and totally disagree with you, but you stated your opinion despite a larger amount of people disagreeing with you. I wanted to tell you that because I like open debate and discourse, and I want to encourage that and remind everyone that debates and discussion isn’t about the person voicing opinions, but the logical arguments backing those opinions up.

    As for Glen Beck, anything that comes out of his mouth doesn’t surprise me anymore. What surprises me is how he can get away with making UNTRUE STATEMENTS just because he is an “opinion show.” Freedom of speech doesn’t mean you can LIE to people on camera, in writing, etc. I don’t care what his opinion is, but I DO care that he can commit libel every time he goes on his stupid show. NOT okay.

  16. Jak is a lost soul. And he seems to lack logic. Military spending isn’t stealing but health care is. And he now pays more for health care is automatically Obama’s fault. It couldn’t be that most health insurance companies jacked their premiums by about 35 to 35% this past year…

    What did Bush do to me personally? He stole from me. Big time. And he gave it to his rich crony friends. All of those no-bid contracts during the first four and half years of Iraq? What were those?

    What about all those “money drops” on palatefuls of cash money into Iraq and Afghanistan? Palates of cash money. Look into it. Put down your guns and stop driving your SUV long enough and do some actual reading and some actual research.

    And then come back and use some valid, supported claims.

    The entire eight years of Bush was one big funnel money up scheme.

  17. Pssst. Guys. Jak’s gone. He’s not coming back. He said his two cents then he left to go shoot fish and drink beer while happily thinking about smart people being punched by burly guys with tattoos.

    And maybe abuse his wife and kids. Maybe.

  18. I’m troubled by your reply, Jak. You’re telling me that if I have an SUV and a gun and a job I should be happy with how things are? How does that attitude help anyone else? Or make me a productive citizen? I care about my community and my country – and about the world. It’s in the nature of humans to want to make things better and not just for themselves, but for everyone.

    Have you troubled yourself to look at what the Bush administration did to this country? You say you are doing well. How about the millions who have lost their jobs due to Republican mismanagement of the economy?

    Try this site:

    Look at the two simple graphs and tell me again why I should not be unhappy with Bush.

    Oh, and the matter of an illegal invasion of a sovereign nation and lying to the American people about why we’re there, illegal torture, detainment, rendition…you get the drift.

    Not to mention flirting with those who wish to impose theocracy and banish the Constitution to the dust-bin of history.

  19. Paine did not “stand for states rights.”

    In “Public Good” (1780) Thomas Paine later stated that it demonstrated his early advocacy of a strong central government and he calls for a “continental convention” which presages the later Constitutional Convention of 1787 (he earlier hinted at it in Common Sense).

    To the claim of the right of states (Virginia specifically) to lay claim to land beyond their borders, Paine says:

    “It is only the United States and not any single State, that can lay off new States and incorporate them in the Union by representation” and points out that Virginia, with her claims, does “the rest of the States wrong in point of equity.”

    His view of states rights would doubtless be at odds with Beck’s and the rest of the conservative establishment with their bellowing over the Tenth Amendment:

    “the supremacy of the United States…is the only authority adequate to the purpose would be worth more to her than what the whole would produce under the management of herself alone.”

  20. 9/11 affected the entire country. The wars that George W. Bush started a effect everyone whether they lost a relative or not. That is a completely uncalled for statement on your part. George W. Bush did nothing to make anyone’s life better. You whine about the threat of your housing energy costs going up yet do not whine at all about the fact that we spend $1 trillion in borrowed money on two wars started by Bush. That’s pretty selective whining far as I’m concerned. If you think Bush did nothing to affect your life you’re out of your mind. Like the housing bubble? Have you ever googled the Bush home ownership society? Maybe you should. Bush killed off over 4000 soldiers of ours needlessly by listening to Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld. he kept Rumsfeld in office even though the man was totally inadequate to be the Secretary of Defense. He cut taxes that added trillions of dollars to the deficit.

    Healthcare has gone up every year since the 80s. Once again you have absolutely no argument here. In the last 10 years the cost of healthcare has gone up wildly because they are totally unregulated. during the Bush administration my company changed healthcare providers twice because of the costs going up. I don’t blame Bush for that but it happened under his term as president. But I do enjoy watching people like you who don’t even admit or give responsibility to Bush for anything during his term.

    you’re simply repeating clichés about the gun ownership man’s man that you think you are. I own a gun and hunted most of my life. I can’t stand fishing because I can’t stand sitting still in the vote for more than five minutes. but your clichés about people being elite and all that kind of stuff are just silliness.

    I say get off the clichés. The name Pres. George Bush will be maligned for years and years to come because of his actions against the people of the United States. But I will cut him a tiny bit of slack. 9/11 happened under him and as far as I’m concerned I don’t blame him for it. Bush left Obama a horrible financial situation, and I don’t blame Obama for that situation.

    I do understand your fear of stepping into the 22nd century. The rest of the world the civilized has health care for its people and quite frankly have better health care systems. How a person can argue against healthcare is beyond me because you are arguing against people’s children and the health of this nation. There is no theft here, just a perceived one. You have no concept of what a nation without these social programs would look like. A small example is that right now you pay for people who go to the hospital and don’t have insurance to the tune of billions of dollars every year. It’s in your taxes yet you say nothing. Nothing but clichés

  21. Everyone seems to think that freedom of speech extends to anything they want it to mean. It doesnt. Thats why we have libel and slander laws. It means the government will not suppress or censor your ideas and information and the expression of such. It is always subject to limitations, in any democracy

  22. But even this rings hollow. The first generation of Christians, spoken of in the book of Acts, took it upon themselves to sell all their possessions and bring the proceeds to Christ’s apostles so they might redistribute the wealth to all believers.

    Acts 2:44-45 says, “All that believed were together, and had all things in common; And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.”

    Raw Story on Glenn Beck

  23. The key there is took it upon themselves. They did not have their money taken from them and spent on mostly nonsense.

  24. “All Paine quotes taken from The Thomas Paine Reader, ed. By Michael Foot and Isaac Kramnick (Penguin Books, 1987).”

    Is this the same Isaac Kramnick who wrote “The Godless Constitution”, which, in the bibliography section said, “we have dispensed with the usual scholarly apparatus of footnotes”?

    If so, I think I’ll call BS on ANY AND EVERY quote in this article.

    Kramnick has proven that he is NOT interested in learning/teaching, he’s interested in INDOCTRINATING the masses into his own warped view of history.

  25. Really, do you that most of the scholars of today have done away with footnotes as in the book you reference, we use an appendix. Footnotes tend to slow the reader down and interfere with the reading experience. That why since the late 70s there has been a movement towards appendixes and away from footnotes. JACKASS

  26. Painee you dumbass, Old Jewish law states if you grow a garden you must not pick the last two to three rows depending on the size. Why you might ask so if a hungry soul came upon you garden they could eat. You are also too leave water and wine on your doorstep to quench the thirst of strangers. This is a law, many might feel that they should not have too abide by but it is a law nonetheless. All throughout history there have been laws like this so they have can help the have not’s. double JACKASS on you.

  27. Bush’s admin was one of the most corrupt, if not THE most corrupt. I had the opportunity to hear John Dean–Richard Nixon’s White House Counsel– speak a few years back. At the end of his speech, an audience member asked him if Bush’s admin was more secretive, more corrupt and utilized more political retribution…or was it Nixon’s admin?

    Dean, without pause or hesitation, said, “Oh dear lord, Bush’s admin, by far!”

    Now, if Nixon’s White House Counsel tells says Bush Co. was worse, that’s kind of like Hitler telling you that you hate Jews too much, isn’t it?

  28. I am also an SUV driving, gun owing, fishing/hunting fanatic and I feel I represent the majority of Americans as well. However, my nephew is now serving his FOURTH tour (three in Iraq, one in Afghanistan) and this war (which as of yesterday reached the $1 trillion mark) has effected me and my family. My healthcare cost (for a family of five) increased by 60% over the past five years. When are we as Americans going to wake up and realize that the repercussions we are feeling today are consequences of irresponsible government spending and the power of corporate American to control every aspect of Congress, both Democrats and Republicans alike. We give Obama WAY too much credit…it takes years to create the situation we see ourselves in today. More people need to study recent history and see where the out-of-control spending began…

  29. Darth, you’re within your rights to believe or not believe. Pick up another copy and check the quotes for yourself. But for the record, this edition DOES have footnotes and lacking footnotes does not automatically discount the scholarship involved.

  30. I’ve had a germ of an idea about cognitive problems that former and current (serious) alcoholics or drug addicts have have. They don’t hear or perhaps can’t process the adjectives in sentences.

    “Government is a necessary evil.” Perhaps Beck hears that as: “Government is evil.”

    We hear the cleverness in Pain’s statement and nod or chuckle. Beck hears, “It’s an evil!” More like “Government Evil,” just those two words make an impression and the rest is lost.

    I also suspect that they process indefinite articles very well, such as in the words ‘an evil’ as in one of many or perhaps even one very rare case. I think they tend to process like a statement about an entire class and it spins into a definite article such as “the evil” or just “evil.”

    Just a suspicion based upon conversations with similar jackasses.

  31. Thanks! Folks don’t get what “Free Speech” means. The second amendment makes us free from the Government making laws that inhibit free speech. We can also peaceably assemble (assemble how? Peaceably!)

    I wish every nut case would actually read the 2nd amendment before opening their yap, it is VERY short and it is only about your rights from the government.

    It does not protect someone from societies disapproval or even of a boycott of someone’s business (such as all FOX networks–just a suggestion).

  32. Jak: We in Wyoming increased OUR SEVERENCE TAXES on coal in 2003. That way OUR State Government can PAY FOR OUR NEEDS and run in the black. Enjoy YOUR energy usage and costs. Use less, save YOUR money and YOUR environment.

  33. Their view is that they are Kings and Dukes and Earls and Barons, living in giant keeps with servants waiting on them hand and foot, feasting daily and living comfortable lives while the “lessor humans” care for them for a shack to sleep in and dirt covered scraps to eat.

    The right-wing is the core of the Feudal Society, they want to return to that time, they like the idea that they are “chosen by god” to live pampered lives while the “dirty unworthy poor” labor and die for the amusement of the “right people”.

    We spent a lot of time and energy breaking free of those kinds of mentalities, but here they are again. The abusive few willing to torture, maim, starve, and kill the masses on a whim.

  34. Thanks and congratulations on some accurate and good comment on Paine — as well as an accurate take on Beck, who I have elsewhere called the Avatard of the Teabagger Right. I published a review of Beck’s so-called COMMON SENSE here, if you’re interested:

    if you search Glenn Beck on the blog, you’ll come up with some other links that address this issue.

    Thanks again for caring about Paine’s reputation and legacy. Long live liberty, equality and fraternity.

  35. well … it appears as though your comment system stripped out the links that I posted, so just search Glenn Beck at kenburchell dot blogspot dot com

  36. “Apes don’t read Philosophy.”

    “Yes, they do, Otto. They just don’t understand it.”

    -A Fish Called Wanda

  37. Americans need to wake up the fact that Beck is simply another opinion pushing charlatan who is a product of mormon cult theology and he mixes this with his personal make up as a dry alcoholic. And for the record, he is a Mormon and not a Christian. As someone with a graduate degree in religion, I can say with all qualifications that Mormonism fits all parameters of a cult and has none of the parameters of a religion. A cult is any group (regardless of its size) that interprets the doctrines of a religion in an unorthodox fashion. The problem here is the fact the most Christians do not understand the difference and they easily fall for the lies of Mormon missionaries when they come to one’s door. On Beck’s radio show and Fox Network program he consistent demonstrates all the unstable behaviors of a dry alcoholic which include grandiosity, judgmentalism, intolerance, impulsivity, ADD and indecisiveness. Alongside that reality, Glenn Beck does not possess a single ounce of journalistic integrity, has no college degree, has no qualifications and he is definitely not a true conservative. But then, what can anyone expect from someone who can’t find anything filthier than their own personal reflection. Since people like Beck cannot survive on the basis of any personal merits, they survive by putting others down with lies and half truths in order to feel good about themselves. The truth about Beck is that he a dry mormon alcoholic who never got the counseling required for alcoholics. To further complicate things and confuse people, Beck flippantly throws around Christian terms like “God”, “Jesus”,”Holy Spirit” as well as voices of other so called “Spirit Powers” on his radio talk show. Beck is a mormon in active standing with the mormon church and is not a Christian. Mormonism teaches many gods, that the god of the earth was once a man who attained godhood status, there is no trinity, the cross of Christ means nothing and that Jesus Christ and Satan were brothers. Because Beck does not possess a single ounce of journalistic integrity, he is the perfect abortion poster child for Fox Network. The people who love what Beck says are no different than the impressionable sheep who loved every speech made by Adolph Hitler in his early years when he brought Germany into an era of economic prosperity These same sheep also blindly followed Hitler into one of the darkest chapters of world history. Beck and the Fox Network both cater to the same lowest common denominator of demagoguery. Beck would not know the first thing about God as he is a mormon. Someone should ask him which of the many mormon gods he kept talking about during his argument with himself on Saturday on the square in DC. Like a typical dry alcoholic, Beck even lied on national television when he spoke about holding a document signed by George Washington. That event never took Place. Unfortunately, people who love being led around by the nose do not realize that Beck is talking about a different god than that of Christianity, Judaism or Islam and that he has been a product of mormonism cultism from the day he started doing a radio talk show as an opinion pusher. You don’t have to have a degree in psychology to see that he exhibits all the signs of a dry alcoholic. The only reason this unstable impressionable idiot fell into mormonism was because the woman he wanted to have sex with would not do so unless they got first got married and from that point, they joined the mormon cult. Glenn Beck is as big a charlatan as Josephs Smith or that 5th grade graduate (Charles T Russell) who started the Jehovah’s Witness cult. This is Glenn Beck in a very accurate and concise nutshell. Considering the fact that Becks personal views are extreme Marxist Libertarian, his form of patriotism is false and he is a person who has no real substance or depth. It will not surprise many of us when Beck’s next big thing is to come out of the closet and announce his homosexuality to the nation. Simply put…he is just another predatory neocon who is pushing the buttons of very ignorant & impressionable people who love being told what to think and believe. We live in a period of history where it has become socially acceptable to be stupid and follow extremist idiots like Glenn Beck, Adolph Hitler, Sarah Palin, Karl Rove, Dick Cheney and Rush Limbaugh. Chicanery and lies are their middle names.

  38. Dennis is on the left wings payroll. He has posted his same rant word for word across the internet using different names in an attempt to slander conservative voices.

  39. Jeff really needs to get a life and recognize that no rant has taken place across the internet. Please get some counseling Jeff as it is obvious you are probably just another sexually frustrated tea—bagger who can’t please a woman so you consistently vote republican in each election. The problem with false patriots like this is the fact that they will vote for any pathetic waste of skin who claims to be conservative and a whole host of other things they are not. You probably even believe that President Obama is a Muslim and is not an American citizen. I’d even be willing to bet dollars to pesos that you probably masturbate to pictures of Christine O Donnell as they are posted on Fox News Network. Be careful because you are lusting!

  40. I am Nerdbotatron My fiance is a member of these blogs, so I decided it was time for me to join. There seems to be a wealth of information on here, I look forward to assimilating it xD Hmmm, a little but about myself….later

  41. Thomas Paine is one of my personal heroes. I’ve read almost everything he has written, The Age of Reason being my favorite. On a business trip last week I happened to sit down next to a woman reading Common Sense by Glenn Beck. I couldn’t resist asking her about Tom Paine. Naturally she was totally ignorant about him aside from a few “facts” presented in Becks book. The look on her face was priceless when I described his hatred for religion including Christianity, his dislike of George Washington, his support for a programs to help the poor and the like. She was in disbelief when I told her about Jeffersons deist beliefs. These tea baggers know nothing about the founding fathers. All they know are caricatures which have been promoted by Beck and his ilk.

  42. Are you a Christian also? What is said about the poor in the Bible? The Good Samaritan? Love thy neighbor?
    Personally, it really bothered me when Bush, at a Press Club Dinner, did a little skit where he thought it was funny that he joked about looking for weapons of mass destruction under chairs, and that the press/audience laughed. Downing Street Memo, Project of the American Century, Weapons inspectors not finding anything, Sadaam willing to go into exhile, and Bush wanting to wage war regardless. 1 million Iraqi civilians dead, 4.5 million Iraqi civilians made refugess. How many orphans and widows? Bothers me a lot. You? Probably not. Your life must be just great. Projections put total war cost at 3 trillion dollars when you take into account caring for wounded soldiers, ruined military equipment…interest since bush borrowed $, largely from communist China, for his war of choice. The depleated uranium and resulting birthdefects, the 16 intelligence agencies that say our wars create more terrorism. True Costs can never be counted.

  43. It is obvious you do not understand the 1st ammendment ,it makes no stipulation on how truthfull or acurate your speech must be.Nor does it make any provision for a regulatory arm that makes judgement on the acuracy or truthfullness of speech.

  44. “I wonder how their beloved capitalism would work when the people are paid absolutely nothing to work.”

    This makes no sense, contracts involve payment

    “The right-wing is the core of the Feudal Society, they want to return to that time, they like the idea that they are “chosen by god” to live pampered lives while the “dirty unworthy poor” labor and die for the amusement of the “right people”.”

    So now free market capitalism is equal to feudalism?
    The amount of economic ignorance from you people is scary

  45. Yes Filipe. Free Market Capitalism, or Capitalism without Regulation, is pretty much the same as Feudalism. It advantages those who are born with great Wealth, or have acquired Wealth by nefarious means.

    By the way, “we people,” whatever that is meant to denote, know as much or more than “you people.” We certainly know enough to recognize an undereducated Beck or Limbaugh Fan’s writings when we see them. You are a Moron and an unwarranted Elitist. Cheers!

  46. Those last ones both made me laugh out loud . . until I realized that they were probably exactly what Jak is doing right now. What a Buzz Kill!

  47. In writing or on broadcast it’s called “Libel.” Apparently, the Right-Wing Payroll doesn’t offer any Tuition Assistance. Save some money up and buy a Dictionary.

  48. Actually martin, there are Federal and State laws governing the accuracy and intent of Speech for Business and Information purposes. There are also “Truth in Advertising” Laws which make it illegal to lie in Commercials (good luck getting anyone to enforce them, however). A Person can make express any opinion they wish, as long as it is labeled as opinion. You can misrepresent anything you wish to in an unofficial capacity. The First Amendment does not, however, protect deliberate misrepresentation of facts by Public Figures working for Federally Licensed Television or Radio Stations. The penalties for such misrepresentations may not necessarily be criminal in nature, but there are ethical standards which flow from these Laws and Rules. Glenn Beck is allowed to express any opinion he wishes using his demented and disturbing chalk board drawings. But, he is not allowed to misrepresent facts, especially about things that people have done or said, dead or alive, without the possibility of sanction. Cheers!

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