Olbermann and Maddow’s Blasting of Obama Proves MSNBC Is Not Fox

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Last night on his MSNBC program Countdown, Keith Olbermann spent almost 12 minutes of his show criticizing President Obama and his administration for compromising on the Bush tax cuts. This was followed up by Rachel Maddow doing the same with her 9 PM program. This is why MSNBC is once again not the, “liberal Fox News.” FNC would never allow their hosts to criticize the GOP that way.

Here is the video of Olbermann’s special comment last night:

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Olbermann pulled no punches with his criticism, “Mr. President, for these meager crumbs, you have given up costly, insulting, divisive, destructive tax cuts for the rich and you have given in to Republican blackmail which will be followed by more Republican blackmail. Of course, it’s not just tax cuts for the rich that you’ve given up… This President negotiates down from a position of strength better than any politician in our recent history. It is too late now to go back and ask why the President, why the wobbly Democratic leadership, whiffed on its chance to force John Boehner to put his money where his mouth was. In September Boehner said if he had no other option, of course he would vote to extend tax breaks only for the middle class.”

Olbermann also took on the administration’s mentality of blaming the base, “Yesterday I had an exchange with a very Senior member of this Administration who wanted to sell me on this deal. I pointed out that that was fine, except that — as I phrased it to him — “frankly the base has just vanished.” “Well,” he replied, “then they must not have read the details.” There, in a nutshell, is this Administration. They didn’t make a bad deal — we just don’t understand it.”

Rachel Maddow followed Olbermann with her own criticism:

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Maddow spoke about the risk to the Obama presidency that this deal making is presenting, “What is happening now is that this presidency is at risk of becoming a punch line, It’s not that he has lost a fight or two or three or four. It’s that the very idea that he knows how to win or even wants to win has become a joke. . . . When this president starts to be ignored, when what he wants, his political vision becomes irrelevant. . . . If the president cannot win when his party is the majority in Congress, if no one can even conceive of the president winning fights when his party is in the majority, let alone the minority in Washington, then the presidency itself starts to atrophy. It starts to disappear.”

Can you imagine for one second Bill O’Reilly devoting about a quarter of his show to criticizing a Republican president? Can you imagine Sean Hannity following O’Reilly on the same evening and doing the same? You can’t because it would never happen on Fox News. Although MSNBC’s opinion programming targets the left, those hosts are free to voice opinions that run contrary to the party line, so can we please stop with the MSNBC is just like Fox News nonsense?

This false equivalency is something that was put out there by the right, and later picked up by Jon Stewart at his Rally to Restore Sanity, as justification for the methodology and bias of Fox News. It is a simplistic argument that ignores the fact that every MSNBC host from Chris Mathews and Ed Schulz to the prime time line up of Olbermann, Maddow, and O’Donnell has at one time or another been critical of Obama and his administration. This is not a behavioral characteristic of a propaganda network.

The mission of Fox News is to help the Republican Party, while MSNBC still functions as a news organization with a progressive tilt. The difference is night and day. The hosts on Fox News would never say anything to jeopardize the Republican cause, while those at MSNBC aren’t working for Obama despite what many on the right choose to believe. The difference between the two networks has never been clearer than it was last night, but as Eric Boehlert at Media Matters pointed out, it doesn’t matter what MSNBC does, the idea that they are Fox News for the left won’t die, and despite my hopes, I doubt last night changed this inaccurate perception.

10 Replies to “Olbermann and Maddow’s Blasting of Obama Proves MSNBC Is Not Fox”

  1. Yet another crazy, unsubstantiated rant on this liberal site!

    So, MSNBC is supposed to be a credible news source because it criticized the president?

    FOX News criticizes the president plenty and all you libbie kooks do is keep calling FOX News bias.

    Who’s stupid now?

  2. Apparently, we are supposed to ignore everything Obama has done right and concentrate on all that is wrong, because life would be so much better with a President McCain in office, at least that is what these progressives seem to think.

  3. 2 years and a half ago,i had this crazy ideal, that people in DC ,especially this president that i know now*** back stabbed millions of low income-people, because bush took- out the -middle-class-people, long ago. This so- called president ran-as-a democract,however,he is a GOP, a** kisser. i have such comtempt -for a person who laid down and let jerks walk all over them. I have also been-supporting obama against others trash talk.
    Look how he thanks me and millions of others. i will be glad to see him replace in two years. at lease i knew where mr. bush was coming from. people in my family does not want me to say anything this about this big-lie he told!!!,i will never-ever-vote for anyone else,not even an issue. That is what obama did to my belief. I would not vote for a dog -catcher !. Now I see first hand what a person will do and say -just to-get in-office-, yes, i support Keith and Rachel, in what they said. Someone need to say it,they have the opportunity to do so. I write, however, that is not a voice. mr. obama played the heck out of many blacks ,whites, latino, if he really wanted to help the hispanic race ,long ago -2years-ago,when all both houses were run by dems,he did not bring a bill in. In my state people are sour on this man. lies,lies,lies, jesse jackson was right.!!! if he he was not strong to handle issue against then why the heck …did he run? wasting my time. I KNOW-WHAT -TIME -IT IS-AND- I AM-NOT-EVEN- WEARING -A WATCH!!!

  4. kEITH THANK YOU!!! -YOU HAVE SAID WHAT MANY DEMOCRATS WANTED TO SAY; DID NOT HAVE A SHOW,OR MIC,FOR SOMEONE TO HEAR IT. PLEASE HEAR THIS —OHIO DEMS. DO NOT EXPECT PEOPLE TO VOTE YOUR COWARD,SORRY, YOU-KNOW-WHAT IN AGAIN!! NOW AND FOR EVERMORE,I FEEL SUCH COMTEMPT FOR YOUR SORRY BEHINDS, THAT ..I AM NOT IN ANY PARTY-AS OF SEPTEMBER 2010.!!!
    YOU HAVE MADE ME SEE THE LIGHT, I HAVE YOU TO THINK FOR THAT. TODAY YOU SHOWED THE WHOLE WORLD THAT YOU ARE A BUNCH OF –COWARDS,AND SHOULD VOTE YOURSELF OUT!!! NOW! OTHERS,{THE PEOPLE} WILL HAVE THEIR TIME TO ACT ON YOU …WHEN IT IS TIME TO VOTE,THE CLOCK WILL RUN OUT. WE DO NOT NEED THIS KIND OF GOVERMENT FROM PEOPLE WE VOTE IN,
    I THANK THIS SITE FOR LETTING US TELL YOU HOW YOU BEHAVE ON SOMETHING THAT WAS WRONG. WENT AGAINST EVERY THING, YOU SUPPOSE TO BE DOING FOR YOUR STATE,!!! BE IT REPUBLIC OR DEMS,INDEP-WHATEVER,I AM GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT I AND OTHERS WILL WALK THE PAVEMENTAGAINST YOU GETTING BACK IN OFFICE!! ,TRADERS,AND REMIND THEM OF WHAT YOU DID TO ,SHAME US!!! WHY DID YOU DO THAT?WENT AGAINST EVERY THING,SENSE,PRINCIPAL ISSUE ,ETC,THAT SENATOR FROM PENN,LOST HIS JOB,BECAUSE HE WENT ALONG WITH ,THAT MAN…GOP,DON’T THINK YOU ARE GREAT, IF WE AS A PEOPLE HAVE COMTEMPT FOR THE DEMS…IT IS TRIPLE FOR YOU,ESPECIALLY,BIG EYES-DOUBLE CHIN,OLD A**…MM. I DISPSE YOU LOW LIKE CREATURE,,, SEE HOW MUCH YOU LAUGH, WHEN YOU MET YOU FRIEND BELOW THE GROUND,TAKE SOMEONE NAME BHO WITH YOU!!! PS, PLEASE-NO-ON-THE-TRANING,FOR ANYONE. I AM SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO,ASHAMED OF THIS PARTY. HOWEVER, I AM STILL A SURVIOR, I BELIEVE IN A HIGHER POWER!!! NOT YOU.

  5. I HAVE BEEN A SOCIAL WORKER FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, PEOPLE-SO-CALLED -LAW MAKERS, IN DC, I WAS SO UPSET FOR WHAT YOU DID TO THE CHILDREN OF THE USA. MY PASTOR,HAD TO CALM ME DOWN. YOU DO NOT SEE WHAT I SEE EVERYDAY, I GO INTO HOMES TO SEE WHAT CAN BE DONE FOR THAT FAMILY WHO HAS NOTHING.
    YOU ALL GAVE CHINA OF ALL NATION!!!,EXPORT/IMPORT AND THEY ARE MAKING MONEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY- OFF OF YOUR DUMBNESS.WHY? THEY DO NOT LIKE THE U.S.
    HOWEVER, THE SO-CALLED LAW-BREAKER,LOOK THE OTHER WAY. ANOTHER THING THAT PISSES ME OFF IS THIS…-YOU ALL-GOOD FOR- NOTHING- SO CALL-DC-LAW-MAKERS…GAVE JOBS AWAY TO-OTHER COUNTRIES WHEN AMERICA IS HURTING,BLEEDING BADLY, JUST TO MAKE YOURSELF LOOK GOOD.
    THIS COUNTRY CAN NOT AFFORD TO GIVE AWAY ANYTHING.
    HERE, THE U.S IS DROWNING IN DEBT, AND THE US-DC-LAW MAKERS ARE NOT CONCERN ONE BIT, ABOUT THIS. I WILL SURVIVE, WILL THE POOR IN THIS WINTER MAKE IT…NO,NO, NO! I WAS LISTENING TO MSMBC,TODAY AND THIS LADY READ LETTERS FROM FAMILY’S…I CRIED UNTIL ,IT HURT TO CRY ANYMORE. PEOPLE ARE KILLING THEIR CHILDREN BECAUSE OF NO JOBS…THANKS, WASHINGTON,LOUSY LAWBREAKERS—I BET YOUR FREEZER IS FULL OF FOOD. YOU LOUSY NO-FEELING -IN -HUMAN PEOPLE. I PRAYED THAT YOU WILL BE SORRY THAT YOU WERE TO LAZY TO HONOR YOUR TASK.
    I TAKE MY JOB WITH HART. TEN YEARS AGO I MISSED MY SON’S WEDDING,BECAUSE A LADY AND HER 2 CHILDREN DID HAVE NOT HAVE A PLACE TO GO. THEY WERE PUT OUT IN THE COLD. MY SON UNDERSTAND THAT I HAVE TO DO WHAT I AM THERE TO DO -H-E-L-P- ANYWAY I COULD.
    BY THE TIME I FOUND A PLACE FOR THEM, THE WEDDING WAS OVER,THIS WAS A WEEKDAY CERAMONY. YOU ALL LOUSY- NO- GOOD FOR NOTHING JERKS,GOP AND DEMS SHOULD
    HIDE YOUR FACES.
    I AM PISSED,I DON’T CARE WHO I HURT FEELING. YOU HURT MY CLIENTS FEELING,PLUS, ALL UNEMPLOYED PEOPLE. MEN HAS BEEN REDUCE TO ASKING FOR HELP FOR THEIR FAMILY,WHAT DO YOU CARE.
    TO HECK WITH YOU!WHEN YOU SIGNED ON AN EXTENTSION FOR THOSE MONEY LOVERS,GOP’S LOSERS, I LOSED ALL RESPECT FOR YOUR PARTY!!!I ADOPED A FAMILY ON MY SALARY,I HELP GRANDCHILDREN AND FRIENDS. I WILL NEVER SAY “NO ” TO THEM!!!+I WILL SEND MONEY TO HELP …MSNBC SANTA CLAUSE PROGRAM FOR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES IN NEED.

    IT IS BETTER TO TIE A NOOSE AROUND YOUR NECK AND JUMP INTO THE WATER -THAN TO HARM A CHILD. A MUCH HIGHER POWER,WILL DEAL WITH YOU ALL. THE SADDEST THING IS…YOU-DO-NOT THINK YOU -DID WRONG.
    IF THIS IS WHAT THEY SAVED THE SENATOR FROM LAS VAGAS JOB FOR, THEN YOU MESSED UP AGAIN. HE CANNOT DO ANYTHING RIGHT.NONE OF YOU CAN!!! I WOULD LOVE TO LINE ALL THE DEMS UP AND SLAP YOU IN FACES. THAT IS WHAT YOU DID TO THE MAJORITY OF THE US.

    KEITH O. SAID JUST WHAT NEEDED TO BE SAID,IN A FINE WAY. YOU WOULD NOT HAVE ENDURE WHAT I HAD TO SAY TO YOU, I HOPE YOU DO NOT HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS.!!! VOTE ON THAT JERKS

  6. MISSISSIPPI; GOVERNOR B…. WATERMELON JOKES ARE OUT DATED,SURE I BUY THEM, ALONG WITH,APPLES,ORANGES,TANGERINES, ETC…I WILL SPARE YOU THIS TIME …HOWEVER, I COULD HAVE SAID …WHAT IS WHITE-FAT AND LOOK LIKE A WHALE? WITH NO COLOR THAT NEED TO BE IN THE SEA? BUT I DIDN’T.(:-))…DOUBLE CHIN… MM

  7. ATTENTION- FOX…KNOW THE ANSWER BEFORE YOU TRY TO SOLVE A QUESTION. IT,OF COURSE 3M-POST -IT -NOTE WILL AGREE WITH YOU,… YOU ARE BOTH, W–T-,… FOX PUT IN THE MISSING WORDS–IF YOU CAN.
    YOU AND YOUR GAME SHOW DOESN’T HAVE 800.000 DOLLARS.
    THAT IS THE REASON YOU ARE STICKING BY YOUR LIE. THE FOXES OUT FOXED THE FOX-AND IF A COMPANY PRODUCES SOMETHING THE PATTON OFFICE WOULD STAMP THAT DATE THEY MANUFACTURED IT. IT DOES NOT MATTER IF THEY EAT,GAVE,OR BURN THEM THEY STILL WERE PROMOTED FOR SALE IN 1977. I LOOKED IN THE INVENTION OF BUSINESS ENCH. YOU CHEATED THEM,NOW THE WORLD KNOW THAT FOX =WHAT A PHONEY,I WOULD HAVE YOU IN COURT RIGHT ABOUT NOW!!! WHO CHANGED THE ANSWER AT THE LAST MINUTE. JERKS,STUPID JERKS!

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