Rick Santorum Announces He Doesn’t Believe In the Separation of Church and State

A rather shrill and clearly self-pitying Mr. Rick Santorum was on ABC’s This Week today, hosted by George Stephanopoulos, to defend himself against GOP assumed front-runner Mitt Romney. His defense amounts to putting the media on notice that he doesn’t believe in the absolute separation of church and state and that anyone who doesn’t agree with him is attacking his rights to take away their rights.

Furthermore, watching John F. Kennedy’s 1960 speech to Protestant ministers in Houston made Santorum want to vomit. Yes, that’s a quote. The Republican candidate for President said Kennedy’s speech made him want to vomit.

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Transcript (modified from ABC’s version, emphasis mine), referring to watching John F. Kennedy’s speech to the Baptist ministers in Houston in 1960:

Rick Santorum: To say that people of faith have no role in the public square? You bet that makes you throw up. What kind of country do we live that says only people of non-faith can come into the public square and make their case?

That makes me throw up and it should make every American who is seen from the president, someone who is now trying to tell people of faith that you will do what the government says, we are going to impose our values on you, not that you can’t come to the public square and argue against it, but now we’re going to turn around and say we’re going to impose our values from the government on people of faith, which of course is the next logical step when people of faith, at least according to John Kennedy, have no role in the public square.

Note: Mr. Santorum admirably moves those goal posts as quickly as a carnival con in a shell game. Keep your eye on the ball of where exactly faith belongs in the public square.

I don’t believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute. The idea that the church can have no influence or no involvement in the operation of the state is absolutely antithetical to the objectives and vision of our country.

This is the First Amendment. The First Amendment says the free exercise of religion. That means bringing everybody, people of faith and no faith, into the public square. Kennedy for the first time articulated the vision saying, no, ‘faith is not allowed in the public square. I will keep it separate.’ Go on and read the speech ‘I will have nothing to do with faith. I won’t consult with people of faith.’ It was an absolutist doctrine that was foreign at the time of 1960.

This isn’t the first time that Santorum has expressed that he doesn’t believe in the separation of church and state. Here is video of Santorum expressing the same views in December of 2010:

Those of us who were unfortunate enough to become indoctrinated to liberal ideas (also known as facts) realize that Kennedy was running as a the first Catholic and was attempting to soothe protestant clergy’s fears about the possibility that he would inflict his religious views upon America.

Mr. Santorum is assuring his base that he will make important decisions for all Americans based upon his faith, which you would share if you were Right. You should understand, however, that the Wrong faiths will not have those rights, naturally. Of course, he would not have the opportunity to even run as a Catholic nor Mitt Romney as a Mormon had these barriers not been earlier broken by the man whose speech makes Mr. Santorum want to “vomit”, but these are concerns for the indoctrinated among us. Not worries for the “free”.

Far be it for me to suggest that the real reason Mr Santorum is made so ill by Mr Kennedy’s speech is Kennedy’s strong belief in religious freedom:

But because I am a Catholic, and no Catholic has ever been elected president, the real issues in this campaign have been obscured — perhaps deliberately, in some quarters less responsible than this. So it is apparently necessary for me to state once again not what kind of church I believe in — for that should be important only to me — but what kind of America I believe in.

I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute, where no Catholic prelate would tell the president (should he be Catholic) how to act, and no Protestant minister would tell his parishioners for whom to vote; where no church or church school is granted any public funds or political preference; and where no man is denied public office merely because his religion differs from the president who might appoint him or the people who might elect him.

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Mr. Santorum, who gave less than any other candidate to charity, also took this opportunity to advocate for charitable contributions taking over for government, came down on the President for “apologizing” for the incident of burning the Koran on a US Military base, alerted Americans to his belief that many Americans don’t care about going to college or, as he calls them, “indoctrination mills,” and that Obama advocating to make possible the American dream of college makes the President a snob. Whew. Mr. Santorum clearly knows where his bread is buttered.

In the interview, Santorum shared his scarring experience in college, wherein he claims he was singled out as a conservative since college is place where people are indoctrinated to become liberals. Mr. Santorum explained how this evidently leads to the conclusion that college kills faith, as one must assume of course, that no liberals have faith.

Indisputably, this kind of divisive rhetoric is part of Satan’s plan to destroy America, also known as the conservative’s Big Tent philosophy, but what you may not realize is that this is all your fault. You see, Rick wouldn’t have to be so mean if you all would stop attacking his right to inflict his beliefs upon you, as mandated by the framers (citation: the Jesus in Rick’s head).

Surely Mr. Santorum, who seeks to be President of all the land, doesn’t hate all Americans who don’t see the world through his My Way or the Highway Old Testament lens. Though Mr Santorum does believes that Satan set his eyes on America in 2008, “This is a spiritual war. And the Father of Lies has his sights on what you would think the Father of Lies would have his sights on: a good, decent, powerful, influential country – the United States of America.” Mr. Santorum also thinks that education should be the burden of “families and communities” (and so dies opportunity for all of the feti he rescues from Satan, but at least they won’t be indoctrinated).

Mr Santorum thinks that because no one rescued the steel industry and it died due to the market place working, so should we have let the American auto industry die. Personally speaking, this would have gone over better had he pinned this one on Satan, but Mr. Santorum is clever to want to regulate the amount of blame he assigns to Satan circa 2008 (not a dog whistle!).

Mr. Santorum had earlier this week doubled down on Death Panels on the Glenn Beck show, waving his Palin fear flag as he terrified his base by claiming that the Healthcare Reform law was a death panel for special needs children, “It’s all about the usefulness of the person to society, instead of the dignity of every human life and the opportunity for people who love and care for people to give them the best possibility to have the best possible life.”

Rick Ungar of the liberal elite at Forbes called this a “lie” and blasted Mr. Santorum further pointing out, “Never mind that, because of the ACA, children born into a lifetime of medical challenges will never again face a time when they are denied the health insurance necessary to pay for their expensive healthcare needs.”

Mr Stephanopoulos, Mr Ungar and the rest of the liberal elite need to realize that when you are battling Satan @2008, the ends justify the means. If one has to lie, cheat or steal to beat Satan 2008 in 2012, well, one does just that. And if one has to use Satan and Jesus in order to terrorize the masses so that they are distracted from the real truth that one represents nothing more than George W Bush on steroids and minus the comparatively elegant public persona, well, so be it. The media should have pity upon poor Mr Santorum, as it’s tough to sell the bridge to nowhere sans Sarah Palin’s physical charms and naughty monkeys, even with a Bible and a flag.

The difference is that God is on Mr Santorum’s side, and you all should know this, because he keeps telling you it’s so. Every time the media fact checks Santorum, they are just helping Satan and also depriving Mr Santorum of his God given right to lie in the name of Jesus, which if you think about it, is the exact same thing as attacking all faith. Stop attacking Rick Santorum’s right to attack others!

Get off Mr Santorum’s back, media, or Satan’s gonna get ya’.

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40 Replies to “Rick Santorum Announces He Doesn’t Believe In the Separation of Church and State”

  1. I can only assume that Santitary has no clue that people of faith are fine in government, their religion has no place in government.

    Ever notice how much Santorum sounds like Palin?

  2. “I like your Christ I do not like your Christians.Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”-Ghandi #reasonforeparationofChurchandState.

  3. …”In the interview, Santorum shared his scarring experience in college, wherein he claims he was singled out as a conservative since college is place where people are indoctrinated to become liberals. Mr. Santorum explained how this evidently leads to the conclusion that college kills faith, as one must assume of course, that no liberals have faith…”

    I think it’s time to look up all of little Ricky’s old college roommates, playmates, girlfriends (???), instructors, employees, clubs, sports teams, etc., to get another perspective of just who, how, when, where and why was he “allegedly” singled-out for being conservative; this should be very “instructive” as to just how much of this is hyperbole and/or how much of it is due to his anti-social personality…

    Remember that jerk in upstate NY who ran in the last elections claiming that he worked for the FBI in negotiating with war protestors on-campus in Buffalo or Ithaca NY? A bunch of lies…why aren’t investigative reporters vetting this guy and fact-checking his “recollections” for the record?

  4. Yep, he sure do sound like a Palin, also there two, four…but why aren’t there investigative reporters “vetting” him like they did the Palins? Why is it that Santorum can claim he was “persecuted” by “liberals” in college for being “conservative” when there is no evidence to back any of his “recollection”? Where are all these “indoctrinators” who forced their views down his throat at Penn State?

    No one hardly remembered Sara in college and when they did, it was truly an eye-opener as to what a pea brain she was then and is now…I think we’ll find the same if we ever get him “vetted”.

  5. Santorum is new to being front-runner status. If he continues to succeed and beats Romney, you can bet he will be vetted. Palin was lucky that the media didn’t have time to vet her properly, nor the McCain campaign as it turned out, during her brief time as the Republicans’ VP candidate. But the vetting did happen….post debacle. The difference is that this time, there is the advantage of time and Santorum’s relatively more prominent exposure prior to the national stage.

  6. i sure hope that little Ricky’s money folks keep it up… not only for the benifit of causing the Republican party heartburn, but more importantly, i dont think the average american has been aware of the theocratic element, that has been right under the surface of “christian consevatism”.. look at it as a case of voter education..

    many of us here on this site are aware of the c streeters, and the Dominionists… there are many of these folks in politics..often in important committee assignments.. folks like Tom Coburn who often cites “the myth of seperation of church and state”..

    the good news is while little Ricky can stir up his base, he’s part of the new conservatism thats driving reasoning people from the party..

    for the last 30 years we have heard the term “Reagan Democrat” bantered about.. perhaps 2012 will be remebered for “Obama Republicans” thanks to all their candidates..

  7. Just that infelicitous — or perhaps all too apropos — phrase, “indoctrinators who forced their views down his throat at Penn State…” made me pause and laugh out loud, given the Jerry Sandusky saga.

  8. I have little doubt that Santorum’s social challenges in college had more to do with his religiously pious sense of supremacy than his conservative views.

    He probably didn’t enjoy recess much either.

  9. Great article Sarah. Let’s not forget that Rick also has no problem with the sex police running around and arresting consenting adults for all that dirty nasty stuff that they do in the privacy of their homes and bedrooms. This guy is a walking contradiction.

    What’s frustrating is that too many Liberals and independents let Santorum and his ilk get away with saying “we’re for smaller less intrusive government” crap. Many Liberals will immediately go on the defensive and start arguing the benefits of good government instead of pointing out the obvious hypocrisy of the statement. We can’t let these guys get away with this stuff. My usual response is something like “Hey you wanna bring back ant-sodomy laws, and legislate based on your version of Biblical scripture. Plus, you guys excepted every jot and tittle of the Patriot Act. What could be bigger more intrusive government than that?”

    I mean c’mon put it on a scale. On one side, we have things like health care for all children, and regulations for companies that produce a toxic chemical by product. On the other side, we have arresting people for sex, forcing pseudo scientific religious garbage to be taught in public schools, sticking their noses up women’s vaginas, and a deep desire to turn the good ‘ol USA into a theocracy. Now tell me, which side represents Big Brother?

  10. I think we know way too much about him already: marrying a woman who lived with an abortion doctor-check. His wife having an abortion to save her life-check. Bringing dead fetus home to sleep in the marital bed and be cuddled by the siblings-check.Has a handicapped child-check. Denying health care to women except his wife-check. Denying health care to other needy children-check check. Denying the separation of church and state–checkmate. This guy just dug his grave site. Even the fundies, when you point out that a Muslim or a Jewish President of the future could tell Americans what to believe and how to worship, stop briefly and try to think.

  11. The longer this election year progresses, the longer the GOP candidates work on their message, the more it feels like I am in a nightmare. I can see this campaign season on the big screen, all the GOP actors carefully coiffed and sweater-vested, yet ruthlessly exposed for their particular flavor of extremism.

    May we survive long enough to watch and laugh with big bowlsful of deliciously-buttered popcorn once the nightmare is over.

  12. I respect Mr. Christian Soldier Santorum’s first amendment right to tell the American people that he has no intention of upholding the US Constitution, and should he become (*shudders*) president, he’d declare a Catholic civil holy war. Jolly good show for a sniveling homophobe in a sweater vest.

    Who is left for the Republicans to disenfranchise?

  13. We don’t know…he claims he was “docked” in college for his conservatism, (huh?) and that he started the first young republican club on campus…I mean, he could have been inhaling, a cheerleader, head-toga master of a frat…the point is, we really don’t know. By this time there should have been people who “remembered” him, as in Christine O’Donnell witch alter event or Rand Pauls’Aqua Buddha, Newts’ sister, you know, real interview on him, not his wife or kids…we need the dirt as we know he has nothing to offer of real substance, so, what the heck…

  14. This makes me uncomfortable. It’s too clear, too in-your-face. It’s about what I’d expect of some of the more local politicians, not someone running for President. It’s too fast, too soon, and too obvious is the feeling I’m getting.

    The dominionists do have a habit of rushing things (as I’ve mentioned before, an example was that steeplejackers tended to screw up by moving too fast and getting caught), and I wonder if this could be the case. We can hope that is the case.

    This might even get a discussion among the general public regarding separation of church and state, and that would be VERY good.

  15. I should add that either it’s a screw-up, or it’s NOT good news for freedom because something has come down that we don’t know about yet. That’s what makes me uncomfortable.

  16. Pardon me, but since he was born May 10, 1958 when exactly did this two year old Rick Santorum watch, understand and react to Pres. Kennedy’s speech. What a moron.

  17. All of that and the media doesn’t bother to call him out. For him to say he won’t uphold the constitution should be the end, but it won’t be.

  18. People should treat their religious beliefs the same way they treat their sexual practices…keep it to yourself and out of the public! People say Obama is turning America into a “Socialist country.” Then I guess people like Santorum are trying to turn it into a theocracy…which is worse (it didn’t work for the Taliban)?

  19. Little Ricky’s latest stunt is to say he approves of destroying Korans, and would doubtless encourage more of it, even though it would be ruinous to diplomacy and pose a deadly threat to Americans abroad, whether military, diplomatic, or just travellers. Maybe he needs more corpses for his kids to play with.

  20. Scarring? I’d tell the SOB to not make me laugh. I don’t think he even KNOWS what emotional scars are.

    Try being hooked into a church through missionary dating – falling in love with the girl, only to have her ordered to move on to the next patsy (as learned a couple of years later). In the meantime, the church leadership kept holding a chance of “getting back together” if only the person would “get closer to God” – eventually directing the person to drop out of school, get a “real job” (working as night clerk in a convenience store), and start attending an Assemblies of God church which was even more repressive.

    Now THAT causes scars.

  21. So if you’re not really in favor of freedom of expression why are you here expressing yourself? You can only stop people from expressing their moral or religious beliefs with violence. Maybe you would be more comfortable a country that has less freedom of speech and freedom of religion(like Afghanistan!!)?

  22. The Catholic soldier clarified his position today:
    “I’m for separation of church and state. The state has no business telling the church what to do.”

    Too bad in Rick’s unhinged religious extremist mind that sentiment doesn’t flow in both directions, as my freedom as a US citizen guarantees.

  23. Add to the long list of improprieties, corruption, hypocrisy, etc: Santorum’s involvement in the K Street Project (unsavory lobbying w/arch fiends Tom Delay and Jack Abramoff). It’s old news but very relevant and he should be made accountable for this:

    http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/99323/santorum-corruption-k-street-project

    http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/99323/santorum-corruption-k-street-project

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/05/rick-santorum-lobbyists-k-street-project_n_1186606.html

  24. Really? Why is that? Did you read what he said, did you watch the second video? Or are you just trying to water this down, because he made a clear case that he doesn’t believe in separation of church and state, absolute or not – and there is no “semi” separation.

    You might want to check the founding documents and the history for the reasons WHY there is no “semi” separation. Read Thomas Jefferson’s “Wall of Separation” letter, legally considered the authoritative opinion on the matter.

    Backed up by 1879 SCOTUS decision. There is no such thing as a semi separation, but of course, that should be obvious by the usage of the word separation.

  25. Well, I’ve heard them called prostitutes for Christ, but sex wasn’t included in the package (at the churches I attended). They played with something far deeper – emotions and the need to give and receive love, plus the need for hope.

    I HAVE heard that some churches would encourage the girls to do whatever it took to get new bodies in the pews (heard from guys who were trapped like I was). For them, I think the name is very appropriate.

  26. At every stop this sham appears at, the first question should be. Mr. Santorum, just why do you have a college degree,and a law degree, and why are you sending your children to college?

    Isn’t what good for your children is good for mine?

    Just who is the Snob, may I ask.

  27. It’s one thing to express them in public, it’s another thing entirely to force them on others. That is what I think Beyond the Spectrum is talking about.

    The “Good Christians” obviously thought they were exercising their freedom of speech (freedom of expression) and freedom of religion when they invaded our church’s booth and started ranting hellfire and damnation at us (in our booth and space that we’d paid for) – and refused to leave when asked because they had “freedom of speech” (or as you put it, freedom of expression). We never reciprocated, although when they started proselytizing in our space we lodged a complaint (especially as they were using deceptive methods akin to mind control). THAT is the sort of thing that we’re talking about – forcing one’s religion on another. It’s one thing to say “I believe so-and-so!”, it’s another thing entirely to start shouting at people “You’re going to HELL if you don’t join my church!” and do so in such a way that the listeners are held captive (such as by doing this in the only place where people could buy and eat lunch).

    Do you see the difference? Probably not.

    We wish the “Good Christians” would stop making a big show of their religion (trumpets on the street corner), and stop trying to proselytize everyone in range. It’s behavior like I’ve seen MANY TIMES that causes people to want all expression of religion taken from the public. If it had been a quiet prayer (blessing) of a meal or something non-intrusive like that, the topic probably would never have come up.

  28. Wow! What an “annus horribilis” for Penn State! First, the Sandusky scandal, then Paterno’s firing and death, and now an alumnus who clearly demonstrates to the nation his inability to comprehend the main idea of a transcript of a finely crafted speech.

    Is he really a moron, or is he just playing one on TV to appeal to the low information voters? The hypocrisy just reeks!

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