Living Proof That Obama is a Christian…It’s In the Bible

I was born and raised in a Christian church…then I grew up and became an atheist. But in all due respect, if people want to worship, let them. I will not infringe on someone’s right to worship anything and I hope others don’t infringe on my rights to NOT believe in some sky-dweller, Yet it seems that those on the right are saying just the opposite for their LGBTQ brothers and sisters as well as the POTUS Barack Obama.

Sad though, the Christian fundies who believe in God or Jesus go counter to the true meaning of Christ, especially after the statement from Obama’s evolution that same sex partners should marry. The storm of the century was cast as hate was spewing from the Christian right. HOMOSEXUAL IS BAD as many screamed. GOD WILL PUNISH YOU! Or NO MAN OR WOMAN WILL MARRY THE SAME SEX, NEXT WILL BE MAN MARRIES DOG! Or worse: Mitt Romney  compared  homosexuality to bestiality and was a bully against LGBTQs.

Yet ironically, the self-same Bible that Romney and the Christian right believes in says just the opposite:

    * Jesus affirmed a gay couple. Matthew 8:5-13
* Ruth loved Naomi as Adam loved Eve. Genesis 2:24, Ruth 1:14
* Jesus said some are born gay. Matthew 19:10-12
* The early church welcomed a gay man. Acts 8:26-40
* David loved Jonathan more than women. II Samuel 1:26
* Romans 1:21-28
* Leviticus 18 and 20
* Sodom and Gomorrah (Genesis 19 & Jude 7)
* I Corinthians 6:9-10 and I Timothy 1:10

According to: Christian Gay dot com:
One of the biggest defense against homosexuality was the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. There are several major holes in the theory that Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed because of homosexuality. First, The idea that “all” the men of Sodom were gay is ridiculous. For one thing, Lot’s daughters were pledged to be married to men of Sodom. Second, if all the men were homosexuals, why did Lot offer his daughters to appease them? What good would it do to offer a gay man a woman to have sex with? Finally, these people threatened Lot. If he didn’t comply with their wishes they said they would do WORSE to him that to the two visitors. They were also trying to force the door down. They were obviously violent and they were trying to get at two unwilling guests. Whenever you mix sex with violence against an unwilling person you do not have homosexuality, you have rape.

And from the King James Bible, the Bible the fundamentalists say is the most accurate. The Bible of all the bibles writes:

Ezekiel 16:48-50
King James Version (KJV)

48 As I live, saith the Lord God, Sodom thy sister hath not done, she nor her daughters, as thou hast done, thou and thy daughters.
49 
Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.
50 
And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.

So no where in the King James Bible does it say that homosexuality is a sin, except in Leviticus 18 vs. 22 which says it is an abomination, which was translated from the Hebrew text Tah. So what else is a To’ebah?

Heterosexual intercourse when a woman has her period (Leviticus 18:19),
Harvesting the corners of a field (19:9),
Eating fruit from a young tree (19:23),
Cross-breeding livestock (19:19),
Sowing a field with mixed seed (19:19),
Shaving or getting a hair cut (19:27),
Tattoos (19:28),
Even a mildly disabled person from becoming a priest (21:18),
Charging of interest on a loan (25:37),
Collecting firewood on Saturday to prevent your family from freezing,
Wearing of clothes made from a blend of textile materials;
Eating of non-kosher foods (e.g. shrimp).

So if homosexuality is an abomination, then every Christian right winger in the military who gets a tattoo are committing an abomination similar to that of homosexuality. And in God’s eyes, is a sin worthy of going to Hell. No? So when President Obama spoke up and said he supported same sex marriage, then yes, he is doing God’s work. Why? Because Jesus did the same thing in Matthew 8:5-13 when he affirmed a gay couple. And it must be true, because, it was approved by a bisexual King. King James the First.

 

35 Replies to “Living Proof That Obama is a Christian…It’s In the Bible”

  1. At first, I thought the title to this article meant that Obama was in the Bible–and he is! Barack was a righteous warrior; Deborah was his prophet-so, as a Deborah in the time of Barack, what I’d like to lay to rest right now is the idea that either the Bible or Christianity belongs in our government. See “The 12 Best Reasons Why the US Is Not Now, And Never Should Be, A Christian Nation” at http://thepoliticali.blogspot.com/2012/05/12-best-reasons-why-us-is-not-now-and.html.

  2. If this god destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, why hasnt he destroyed Las Vegas which has to be far far worse than they other two cities could ever be? AHA!

    I would tell you there’s no god but that achieves nothing to christians.

    There is no christianity in fundamentalism and there is no christianity in those who say they can interpret the mind of a “god”. Especially when they refudiate the very words of the god they “know”

  3. I don’t believe forcing people to believe in what I believe and I don’t believe we should twist the Bible around to fit our life style either. According to the King James version, Matthew 8:5-13 is concerning Jesus healing the servant of a Centurion.

    How is this scripture interpreted to be Jesus is confirming a gay couple?

  4. @Anthony, I’m with you. I checked in 3 different translations and NOWHERE does it even hint in Matthew that the centurion was gay. It was his servant. Also, apparently he doesn’t understand what a eunuch was/is. He was a castrated male so I don’t think a eunuch was able to be gay or straight!(Matt:9 and Acts 8)He shouldn’t have used Romans I: to ok homosexuality because Paul is speaking out against all the corruption among these men including lust toward one another. I haven’t taken the time to check out the others but here is a case of someone who has never studied the scriptures and takes verses out of context without reading before and after.

  5. I come from a VERY fundamentalist, right-wing, ultra conservative “Christian” background. I’m now none of the above but I believe I can say with much certainty that this is the worst article I’ve ever read on here.

    You’ve taken verses that have absolutely nothing to do with the argument you’re trying to convey. Even if you were just picking verses to match your beliefs, which isn’t how one is supposed to use the book, you’ve failed miserably.

    And even if you took the verses you’ve chosen in context of WHO the book was written to and what the author was addressing, you still failed miserably.

    Leviticus 18:22 is not the only verse to condem homosexuality. Romans 1:24-27 speaks of the ways men and women gave themselves over unto unnatural use.

    Having said all that, not only do I believe the Book was written by a bunch of uptight old Hebrew men, I don’t believe that God has time to listen to a bunch of uptight radical conservatives screaming for god to condemn anyone who doesn’t believe as they do.

    If you’re going to use the Book in your argument as the basis of your argument, then do your research and know the subject matter and how to use it.

  6. I read this for entertainment.. and it did not dissapoint. What a reaching manipulation of the bible to support an lifestyle that is direct contradiction of the bible. I even looked up the verses in matthew and it has Nothing to do with gay marrige. Creative..but that’s all this article has to offer.

  7. Oh, everybody agrees all that stuff is abominable. Especially shrimp.*

    *It’s even more abominable with drawn butter, or particularly Newburgh.

  8. However, it is not about religion but about a person to live as they choose within the laws of this country. If Christians were to be Christ like instead of trying to force people to accept Christian standards, we would be a lot more effective.

    There is a separation of state and church. If it was not, we would have to worry about which religion would be subject to follow. In the Christian religion or faith, there are many different denominations and factions, so which denomination or faction are we going to follow if we govern based on religion?

  9. Wow, the worst article. But what can I say when writing fact from a book of desert stories and magic? I mean, if the president wants to believe, that’s fine. I just approached it from a non-religious viewpoint. I mean, I could have added this:

    1) Murder, rape, and pillage at Jabesh-gilead (Judges 21:10-24 NLT)

    So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. “This is what you are to do,” they said. “Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin.” Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan.

    The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives. But there were not enough women for all of them. The people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had left this gap in the tribes of Israel. So the Israelite leaders asked, “How can we find wives for the few who remain, since all the women of the tribe of Benjamin are dead? There must be heirs for the survivors so that an entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever. But we cannot give them our own daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that anyone who does this will fall under God’s curse.”

    Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, “Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife! And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, ‘Please be understanding. Let them have your daughters, for we didn’t find enough wives for them when we destroyed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.'” So the men of Benjamin did as they were told. They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance. Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them. So the assembly of Israel departed by tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes.

    2) Murder, rape and pillage of the Midianites (Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)

    They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho.

    Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. “Why have you let all the women live?” he demanded. “These are the very ones who followed Balaam’s advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD’s people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.

    3) More Murder Rape and Pillage (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)

    As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.

    4) Laws of Rape (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)

    If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.

    5) Death to the Rape Victim (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)

    If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.

    This is why I’m an atheist

  10. as a recovering christian (so to speak) I can tell you that I’m not sure this author is up to speed on the verses… Matthew and Ruth have nothing to do with homosexuality. I don’t bother to continue looking up the other verses, except Leviticus, which christians want to use to their advantage but who don’t personally want to abide by in its entirety.

  11. Oh Callie, thank you! I find this SO offensive and say that as one strongly committed to GLBT rights and to the total separation of church and state. My entire life is focused on fighting for the equality of all people, and I do so FROM a faith perspective that, if this author in LA knew ANYTHING, is the dominant focus of mainline and progressive Protestants today.

    You “grew up and became an atheist”. Huh. Fundamentalism among atheists is now under assault FROM atheists, many of whom are my deepest and closest allies. We are all wrestling with “what is truth” and NO one asserts they have found it – except here with Tim.

    Free inquiry into the meaning of Biblical passages is a long and difficult road. Most people of good will think there’s very little that “proves” anything that cannot be “proven” some other way. Proof texting on almost any issue is pointless. It’s the overall drive toward justice which one needs to extract, and when you do, you cannot discriminate against anyone.

    Faith is not superstition. Some fundamentalists ARE. But people engaged in faith quests and spiritual growth, even within traditional denominations are not fuzzy minded or deluded but ARE embarking on a life long voyage of discovery. If you can have Spooky Action at a Distance as part of Quantum mechanics, the whole world of Wow opens up to – what does it all mean, how does it all work? Finding scientific answers does NOT rule out the WOW factor.

    You are never going to get to human equality with badly chosen pointless Bible verses. You will get there when the wonder of each human being moves you to equality and joy of being part of the marvel that is the human condition. That’s all faith is about. That’s all secular humanism is about. That’s all you need to get where you wish to go.

    And unless you’ve read John Shelby Spong, don’t try any more exegesis please, Tim. You really suck at it.

  12. I do not hate ppl but I may hate their lifestyles …ppl do as they please in these times n the bible did say that such wud happened …’just as in the days of Noah so will it be in the time of the end…the bible condemned homosexuality wen it said that man has left thevnatural use of the female – Rom 1:27…..working what is obscene n receiving the full recompense ….verse 26 says he give them up to disgraceful sexual appetites ….n 32 say those practicing such things are deserving of death….now I personally believe whole soul in the bible…it is the “gospel ” for me…
    while ppl.may chose whatever lifestyle they please ..they will bear the consequences ..I do.not n.will not judge …but please..do not dilute Gods perfect word to justify what man is doing…I wont be right…its blasphemy …I do not see that God wud destroy Sodom n Gomorrah bcaz at least 10 righteous ppl cud nor be found mos of whom were homosexials but he wud condone a gay relationship between David n Jonathan …even making David king…saying david was a womaniser might have been more accurate…he killed for a woman…n don’t see how Ruth wudda end up marrying Boaz weh it wudda been rocking with Niomi..thats like accusing God of double standards n we dnt want to go.there…

  13. Romans 1:26-27
    26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

  14. In Matthew 8:5-13 Jesus was not referencing a gay couple as you have played out here with twisted scripture. Get your facts right, and quit miss-leading the masses.

    The Faith of the Centurion

    Matthew 8:5-13

    5 When Jesus had entered Capernaum, a centurion came to him, asking for help. 6 “Lord,” he said, “my servant lies at home paralyzed, suffering terribly.”

    7 Jesus said to him, “Shall I come and heal him?”

    8 The centurion replied, “Lord, I do not deserve to have you come under my roof. But just say the word, and my servant will be healed. 9 For I myself am a man under authority, with soldiers under me. I tell this one, ‘Go,’ and he goes; and that one, ‘Come,’ and he comes. I say to my servant, ‘Do this,’ and he does it.”

    10 When Jesus heard this, he was amazed and said to those following him, “Truly I tell you, I have not found anyone in Israel with such great faith. 11 I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. 12 But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

    13 Then Jesus said to the centurion, “Go! Let it be done just as you believed it would.” And his servant was healed at that moment.

  15. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

    In the days of Noah… Noah may have been a real person (we will never know), but a worldwide flood never happened. PERIOD. Science disproved that years ago. That doesn’t mean local catastrophic floods didn’t happen, and Bob Ballard’s video about his expedition to the Black Sea suggests how the story of Noah may have begun. I suggest you read Feder’s book “Frauds, Myths, and Mysteries” on the subject (and on Biblical literalism in general).

    The real sin of Sodom and Gomorrah was their abusive treatment of the poor and suffering and it was not sexual at all. See Ezekiel 16.

    The words mistranslated as regarding homosexuality probably refer to misusing a young male ritual prostitute. Even today much of the OT is guesswork… the best guess at the meaning of ancient texts. Those passages have been quoted ad nauseum, but it can also be shown that the translators of said passages were working from their own strong cultural biases (and in relation to other passages, almost impossible misogyny). In other words, the translators were bigots.

    You’d think that if you were a real Christian, your focus would be on what the writers of the Bible emphasized (hundreds of writers over a span of hundreds of years). Yet you focus on 5 minor lines of scripture, instead of the thousands of lines rebuking the rich and denouncing the way they treated the poor (or instructing on how to treat the poor with justice and mercy). These 5 lines are used to support expressed hate and judgmentalism (and while you deny it, you are judging people).

    I’ve publicly shared a dream I had a few months ago – where I was shown that a “church of an anti-Christ” (as in the inverse of Jesus) has existed even long before Jesus walked this earth and He fought against that ersatz church. Your attitude and statements sound like you are part of that church, and you had better think about that.

    (This goes on for any other person who insists on Biblical literalism and uses it to abuse others, especially the people they’ve been taught by the preachers to hate.)

  16. I’m not so sure that some of them are badly chosen. I’ve read what was asserted about the centurion and his “slave” from sources I consider far more reputable than the run-of-the-mill Bible “teachers” (people I consider true Bible scholars – who can read ancient Greek, Hebrew, and also knew Aramaic, and also studied the worldview of the ancient cultures), and knowing what little I do about ancient Mediterranean cultures, it could be so.

    It wasn’t taken by those scholars as absolutely a fact, but that that the possibility of a homosexual relationship between the two was a distinct possibility.

    I’d have to look at all the other texts and think about them… something I’m not really interested in doing right now.

  17. You sound just like one of the “Read the Bible”!!! “Good Christians” I’ve come to abhor and fear – the sort of person who might poison pets, commit arson, and try to harm the people who disagree with you.

    I suggest some real Biblical study… one that looks at all the difficulties and problems with the Bible and explores the worldview of the cultures therein. If it’s real scholarship… you’ll come to realize that the Bible isn’t literally true and that there are some real problems in the way it was translated.

  18. You Old Testament “Christians” [also known as Jews] want to live by Leviticus then you live with all of it:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jYaewOBGybw

    partial script: “I’m interested in selling my youngest daughter into slavery as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. She’s a Georgetown sophomore, speaks fluent Italian, and always clears the table when it was her turn. What would a good price for her be? While thinking about that, can I ask another? My Chief of Staff, LeoO McGarry, insists on working on the Sabbath, Exodus 35:2, clearly says he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself or is it okay to call the police? Here’s one that’s really important,’cause we’ve got a lot of sports fans in this town. Touching the skin of a dead pig makes us unclean, Leviticus 11:7. If they promise to wear gloves, can the Washington Redskins still play football? Can Notre Dame? Can West Point? Does the whole town really have to be together to stone my brother, John, for planting different crops side by side? Can I burn my mother in a small family gathering for wearing garments made from two different threads?”

    Romans 2:1 “You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.” (“same things” = sin)

    Finally, you can’t make me kneel on rice grains while reciting passage and verse any more than I can make you dance naked in the yard under the full moon. The beauty of freedom, eh.

  19. WOW , you guys are getting really despreate to try and proof that God aproves gays sorry but he does not and never
    will and obhama will lose thses lections

  20. I do not know what bible you are reading i looked up the scriptures listed on the top of this page they do not match what the scriptures in the bible they are supposed quote? I am for Gay marriage just went to look them up to use and they aren’t what you say they are

  21. Actually, Sodom and Gomorrah are not held up as the strongest support for those who believe in using the bible as a means to justify discrimination, hatred and bigotry, it’s just the most well-known.

    This talk deconstructs the 6 main “anti-gay” verses in the bible pretty effectively. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezQjNJUSraY

  22. The link that should have been included in this article. This is where they are getting most of their argument.
    http://www.wouldjesusdiscriminate.org/biblical_evidence/gay_couple.html

    We can always go to the Gospel’s of Mary, Thomas and Phillip. The original Mathew and Luke. We find out as most of history records, Natural born eunuchs the term used at the time, was common and supported by the military’s of the time. For them to think much about or write about it at the time would have been even less likely.

    The Bible and what the original Gospels say are very different.

  23. Leviticus was written for the Levites, a priestly caste. Those that so enjoy using it to prove their argument should enjoy all the suggestions.

    Leviticus 18:22
    Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

    If you care to go back a couple of hundred years it read;
    Thou shalt not lie with mankind, while with womankind: it is abomination.

    Paternity could not be established if two men were with a woman. There is little concern for how many women were present but in essence, three ways and orgy’s must remain with a single male.

  24. Wow, so now not believing is a religion. Still, from the bible (lower case because I do not hold the book to any high reverence, as it is just words written by humans inspired by an invisible being), is opened for interpretation. I realized that this book of myth is a myth as the practices counter each other:

    Deuteronomy 21:18-21

    King James Version (KJV)

    18 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:

    19 Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;

    20 And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.

    21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

    So according to interpretation, does that mean that the father must kill their child? And, since sin is a sin, is this then justifiable?

    Fundamentalist Christians ‘spanked’ daughter to death
    http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/08/fundamentalist-christians-spanked-daughter-to-death-in-the-name-of-god/

    Therefore, if nowhere in the Bible does Jesus say homosexuality is a sin, then President Obama obeyed the word of god and showed love to his neighbor. And if I remember my Davey and Goliath, Davey’s dad said that a stranger is a neighbor.

    Or

    Did what the fundamentalist father do to his child correct according to the bible? And if he did, this is why I am an atheist. Why? Because the bible says: Thou Shalt not Kill. Interpretation is based upon ones ideas and the references to LGBTQs in the bible, according to my interpretation should be correct. And if it isn’t correct, then the father who killed her daughter, should be set free…according to Deuteronomy 21:18-21. Which is it?

  25. Why am I the only one who thinks using a single non-scientific, 2,000 year old source is a bad idea to base our laws on?

  26. Your not the only one and our laws are not based on the bible. Only people with an agenda think they are

  27. Hi Walkawy – I’m not disputing the possible enlightened understandings. I very much agree with your interpretations of Sodom and Gomorrah etc., but Tim has NO understanding of the Bible or what it means.

    Very few Christians in mainline and progressive Protestant denominations (most of them) believe in literal scripture anyway, so to “proof text” over things so scant and debatable is just silly.

    For secular humanists and Christians alike, the fundamental issue is the repudiation of the tribalism of the Old Testament and the embrace of all humanity on equal footing. It just doesn’t get more complicated than that.

    The fundamentalists – Dominionists – today are NOT Christians. They use Jesus as a “get out of jail free” card. They are Old Testamentarians who use scripture for totally political purposes. Politically, why go through all the hell of trying to RE-interpret scripture when we are not going to change the fundamentalist mind? They don’t believe it, and the only way past them is to embrace equality.

    But the equally fundie decision that the only “adult” idea is atheism is equally ridiculous since the ONLY thing anyone can logically be is agnostic. And that means the quest for truth – including thoughtful reflection on what was written, when, and under what circumstances – has to be paramount.

    Using scripture or history or anything else as a weapon just turns those doing so into fundmentalists, never mind the reason why. And when you do it ham-fistedly, it’s just another millstone around your neck. It gets the movement toward understanding absolutely nowhere.

  28. I stand 100% behind keeping religion OUT of our government. I am also 100% in favor of taxing religious properties.

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