Michele Bachmann Uses Info From a Chain Email to Lie about ObamaCare Home Sale Tax

Michele Bachmann turned up on Piers Morgan Tonight touting a 3.8% ObamaCare tax on home sales. The problem is that this is a total lie based on a chain email.

On CNN Bachmann said, “In fact, what a lot of Americans aren’t realizing quite yet is that there’s over twenty new taxes in ObamaCare and just one of the taxes will be a tax when people sell their homes. It’s 3.8%, and for many Americans they’ll have to pay in addition to all the other costs at the closing when they sell their home, the seller will have to pay 3.8% of the closing cost to the government for ObamaCare. So if you have a $500,000 house, you’ll be having to give something under $20,000 to the federal government for ObamaCare. That’s just one of the new taxes about to take place.”

There are a few clues in Michele Bachmann’s comments above that suggest that her statements aren’t true. First, Bachmann says, “many Americans,” but she doesn’t specify exactly how many. The second big clue is that Bachmann said used the example of a $500,000 home. Bachmann’s choice of a half a million dollar home as her example was especially curious when you consider that according to the Census, the median sell price for an American home is $216,800, and the average sale price is $272,900.

It turns out that Michele Bachmann was lying. There is no ObamaCare home tax, but this is a Republican lie that just won’t die.

The Tax Policy Center has tried repeatedly to debunk it. Last year Forbes debunked this lie by writing, “Yes, the health law will impose a 3.8 percent tax on investment profits and other non-wage income starting in 2013. But that tax applies only to couples with adjusted gross income of $250,000 (or individuals with AGI of $200,000). About 95 percent of households make less than that, and will be exempt from the law no matter what. In addition, couples who sell a personal residence can exclude the first $500,000 in profit from tax ($250,000 for singles). That would be profit from a home sale, not proceeds. So a couple that bought a house for $100,000 and sold it for $599,000 would owe no tax, even under the health law. If that couple had AGI in excess of $250,000 and made a profit of $500,010, it would owe the new tax. On ten bucks. That would be an extra 38 cents.”

It turns out that Bachmann and her GOP colleagues floating this pile of dung got their info from a chain email. Yes, the spam that annoying people send you all the time is where Bachmann got her information about the ObamaCare home sales tax.

PolitiFact took on this email back in 2010 and deemed it a pants on fire lie.

The email itself stated that, “Under the new health care bill — did you know that all real estate transactions will be subject to a 3.8% Sales Tax? The bulk of these new taxes don’t kick in until 2013 (presumably after Obama’s re-election). You can thank Nancy, Harry and Barack and your local Democrat Congressman for this one. If you sell your $400,000 home, there will be a $15,200 tax. This bill is set to screw the retiring generation who often downsize their homes. Is this Hope & Change great or what? Does this stuff makes (sic) your November and 2012 votes more important?”

As you can see all Bachmann did was change the numbers from a $400,000 home to a $500,000 home and the amount of the tax from $15,000 to $20,000.

The truth is that there is no 3.8% tax on home sales to pay for ObamaCare. It is all a big lie, a big fat two year old lie. This is a mark of how desperate the Republican Party is to stop healthcare reform. They have taken a chain email and elevated it to a talking point. The truth is that only 0.2% of home sellers would be subject to the tax, and the amount they would pay would be $235 not $20,000.

At least now we know why Michele Bachmann is so misinformed about everything. She gets her information from the same source where most Americans get work at home offers and Viagra ads. Bachmann is probably waiting for that nice Nigerian prince to deliver the millions that she inherited.

Yes America, voters have elected this woman to the United States House of Representatives multiple times.

40 Replies to “Michele Bachmann Uses Info From a Chain Email to Lie about ObamaCare Home Sale Tax”

  1. I am So – Damn – Freaking – Sick – of – seeing – this – same – old – crap – all over the blasted internet! It’s always “they gots it from da chain emails” whenever some conservative says anything. and all too often, that actually turns out to be the damn case! Everyone on the non-left really needs, and I mean, dire need – to stop with the chain letters! And any ideas they get better not come from chain emails, and if there are any ideas in chain emails, conservatives really do need to be sure and denounce the chain letters anyway, especially if there is one iota of untruth in them and they are being debunked on urban legend busting sites. Forget Politifact, it is freaking embarrassing that pro-republican stuff goes viral (becoming chain letters) and ends up on hoax-busting sites right along with the Bloody Mary and Carmen Winstead death chain letter hoaxes!

    It is INFURIATING that no one on the non-left but me seems to give a crap about this and can’t be bothered sounding off and smashing chain letters consistently or even at all! *Facepalm*

    Well I’m not a democrat, and there are things I disagree with on the republican side that IMO need to be dumped from their platform too, and spreading chain letters is one of them!

    Why Smash Chain Letters? The Mission http://chainsmashers.mixxt.com/networks/content/index.Why%20Smash%20Chain%20Letters_%20The%20Mission

    28th Amendment etc.

  2. And to add to this, you sure stooped low in your deliberate smear of a conservative woman again didn’t you? But it’s okay to love only democrat women, but you say M. B is all lies because she believes in chain email, which is just conjecture from you anyway. If she was a democrat, chances are you would be singing her praises to the sky even if she touted the global warming tripe and said the lunar landing was a hoax. Well there’s two sides to every story and there’s the truth. And Bachmann needs to smarten up and be sure what she says doesn’t come from stupid chain letters, but you also need to step off. This article is just a Bachman-hating rant and it sucks. Don’t tell me you haven’t fallen for chain email at some point in your life yourself. It might’ve been a blog award meme, random survey, or those stupid lolcats and other viral dreck, but if you participated in a meme, you spread chain letters.

  3. That’s great idea but FYI the example if liberals saying fix lies us not a lie. They sued for the right to lie and call it news. More false equivalencues trying to make the right feel better about being loony.

  4. I participated in a chain letter once. I was 12. This is not a new lie for MB…she says whatever will get her face time on TV and please the lowest common denominator. And as far as ‘attacking conservative women,’ please stop. Palin called Nancy Pelosi ‘a dingbat’ the other night. Palin, who knows a dingbat all right, in her mirror. When you lie, you get called out. Period. Men, women, left right…stop the lying. Bachmann didn’t ‘fall for’ that email. She grabbed it with both hands and couldn’t wait to share it on national TV. She and her staff couldn’t be bothered, or didn’t care, to check out its veracity. Just goes to show you that Bachmann hasn’t bothered to read the health care law, ever. Surprise, surprise.

  5. Bachmann has never been acquainted with the word “veracity”, “integrity”, “fact”, or “fiction”. She is persona non=grata in 90% of the country and I cannot figure out how she gets any airtime with the lies she continually spouts.

  6. GOPigs will not let go of ANY lie, ANY fiction, ANY twist, spin, or obfuscation…as long as they can ‘get back’ at the hated ‘darkie’ in the White House.

    Just ask, Rush, Beck, Cantor, Boehner, Bachmann, O’Connell, West, Walker or Scott. With these guys, if lies were shingles, they could re-roof the Hearst Castle.

  7. Every time I see a chain letter, political or not, I look it up. snopes.com is the best for debunking emails. Politifact and factcheck are also good debunking sites.

  8. It’s not a smear if one can prove that another is lying. Bachmann has a track record of lying. She lied about death panels in the Affordable Care Act, the HPV vaccine during the republican debates, and now she’s lying about a tax on new home sales to pay for the ACA. I don’t hate Bachmann, but I do hate her lies. If you object to Bachmann being called a liar, you should send her an email and tell her to knock it off. Furthermore, it’s not up to you to try telling others to support Bachmann simply because she’s a conservative woman. You can support her while she lies her way to a better life at taxpayers’ expense and sits in Congress doing nothing for $174,000/yr + benefits, but I refuse to do it.

  9. Probably not. A standard question Morgan asks every guest he thinks likes PBO is “What do you think of the job PBO is doing?” He’s a slimy weasel, imo.

  10. Bachmann has been caught out in SO many lies, I can only think that the cable news channels such as CNN have her on only to have a good old argument with her in hopes of increasing their ratings. She’s as disgusting and dishonest as SCarah Palin, and if the moderate Republicans still had a lick of decency, they would disown her. But, I guess they don’t .

  11. Wasn’t the figure on her OTHER Bogus ( that others picked up and spread on Faux news) Story that Obama’s trip to India was costing American taxpayers 200 Million a DAY and that something like 1/4 of our entire Navy Fleet was protesting President Obama..? Too far fetched to be believable.. Not for Bachmann.

    It defied “ALL” Logic… but people picked up on what Bachmann said and repeated it as news. She even repeated it on a Sunday news Show.( was it MTP?) All it takes is 1 Idiot talking to another Idiot.

    I have to think that Santorums claim that NO California Colleges taught American History classes was also off some email someone forwarded to him. Because 5 minutes with Google would debunk it. Maddow proved THAT.

  12. No, I haven’t “fallen” for chain mail and if one has a brain, they will try and verify before going on national television and spreading misinformation. REGARDLESS of political affiliation. But, how come most of the lies are spread by Republicans? Bachmann is guilty of this as much as or more so than Palin, who doesn’t have a problem with lying to spread an agenda. LIARS are LIARS and no amount of support from conservatives changes that fact and she is one of the biggest.

  13. There are many lies out there about ObamaCare(s) and those telling the lies are rarely called out for it by the media. It is up to each of us to try and counter the misinformation whenever we can. We can do this on message boards like this, we can use Facebook or Twitter – any medium that allows us to call b.s. on the lies being told day in and day out by the Fright Wing. They really are doing a disservice to their constituents. It’s amazing how easily they lie but we can counter that with the truth.

    Obama/Biden 2012
    ObamaCare(s)

  14. Bachmann wasn’t the focus of this article because she is a “conservative” woman. She is a hate-slinging, lying moron. This is by no means the first time she has done this. She does this routinely.

    You won’t see an article like this about Olympia Snowe or Kay Bailey Hutchison or Susan Collins. They are conservative women and I personally disagree strongly with their views, but they are intelligent people who don’t traffic in the utter loathsomeness of Bachmann style lying.

    You don’t get to claim that opposition to Bachmann is based on her conservatism any more than Palin gets to claim that opposition to her is based on her gender.

  15. Why is this a deliberate smear of a woman, a conservative, politically motivated woman? Where did the author get all sexist and up in her va-jay-jay for being a dumb brunette in pearls?

    I didn’t read that. I read that a US Congresswoman intentionally passed on misinformation via a major media network when that myth was debunked 2 years ago.

    Is she just plain stupid because she doesn’t pay attention to the facts or does she just lie?
    …how about the time she said an adolescent girl turned mental retarded via an HPV shot, or that the dems have built re-education camps to lock up all the “good christians”? Was she deliberately smearing, spreading false rumors, or just lying?

    Michelle’s the kid who has called “wolf” way too many times when everybody knows/slowly understanding who the real wolf in sheep clothing are…

    (sorry I ended in a verb)

  16. Miss Capri, your cute little ankle-length pants seem to be uttering smoke, and it’s not from the sex appeal of your little assie.

  17. When I looked at Rott Mimney, I always thought I had seen those vapid, rolling, glass-marbles-in-dice-cups, mindlessly lying eyes elsewhere. Thanks to this article, I remember where.

  18. A chain e-mail can be debunked in 5 minutes by Snopes. People who don’t want to be fooled can use this option. Michelle Bachman clearly doesn’t want to be disabused of any crazy theory that makes President Obama look bad. So she continues to look like a crazy woman.

  19. I have a Master’s Degree in Tax Accounting; Michele Bachmann is not telling the truth (period). Because Michele Bachmann is an attorney, she needs to follow a “Professional Code of Conduct”; I believe her continued dishonesty is a reason to file a complaint against her and take away her license (if she still has one). I am pretty sure anyone can file a complaint – I am personally not up for the challenge, but it would be great if someone would step up to the plate and file a complaint against her.

  20. And if you made $500K profit over what you paid for your house, you have just found the stupidest buyer on the planet. This chain email sounds a bit like AG Holder being skewered by Issa because of some crazy red-neck conspiracy theorist from a confederate state. This is so dumb, Fox news will probably run with it, as will Boner an McTurtle since their mandate tax story stinks more every day, making them look like idiots.

  21. Michele Bachman is just another wingnut pommpom girl(with all due respect to the real pom pon girls of the world). I don’t particularly care if this fool is a Republican, a Democrat,or a Teabagger. Her stream of racist comments alone should disqualify her from serious consideration for any position above the level of Bubble Guppy. Why she is still getting air time, other than on FOX, is beyond me.

  22. I hope mrs bachman body is donated to science, or at least her late state would allow the dissection of her brain or at least, her right cerebral frontal hemisphere, I think will add to our understanding for these mutations and allow an updated entry in the scientific catalogue but also further understanding on the “why” the intention of such resolved way of thinking resolved itself in such matter for this middle aged female primate. I would also like to encourage other opinions as to answer. Why such an individual would chooses a lifetime parter, someone with such a fascinating choice not only when it comes to having a fashionably educated taste in canine hat-wear. but someone that bends scientific reason with a leverage forged with only his version of faith & created only by this self pro-claimed human redecoder in order to profit from not only his internal conflicted contradicted life, but to profit from providing a false cure for what is not an illness. but to give a starving man a picture of a meal.

  23. OK, let’s be honest here. You can only peddle stupidity to stupid people and 75% of Americans are stupid. What I mean is, Americans can’t form their own opinion on anything and their opinion and believes are formed by the media. So, they are led like sheep and we know that 95% of media outlets are owned and operated by a handful of corporations which in turns are owned and controlled by a specific foreign government implanted in the Middle East.
    Why is Baucman still around spewing her poison?

  24. Now, now. I don’t think a $500K profit would necessarily be unreasonable. Especially on a house in a good neighborhood, like… Malibu? And the selling price was $12.5 million after you paid $11 million and did a few upgrades worth $1 million in costs. Like the indoor pool and car elevator…

  25. The Republicans just keep digging their hole bigger. The only things bigger than their hole are their huge lack of viable candidates, and super-sized lacking of facts. I do hope this election will prove that millionaires can’t buy the seat in the Oval Office with money and lies.

  26. “And Bachmann needs to smarten up and be sure what she says doesn’t come from stupid chain letters, but you also need to step off.”
    MB is an ELECTED official and journalists, bloggers, writers – hell, just everyday Americans – have the right, no we have the responsibility to call out our elected officials for their lies and stupidity.
    Seriously, you need to step off and quit whining how Republican women are trashed (especially the ones that need to be trashed). I’m fairly certain I can go to Drudge or Breibart or Fox and find plenty of name calling. Hell, Sarah Palin called Nancy Pelosi a dingbat – did you call her and tell her to step off? Grow up.

  27. If that were true what Michelle is saying:

    Article I, Section. 8.
    The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

    To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

    To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

    To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

    To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

    To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

    To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

    To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

    To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

    To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

    To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

    To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

    To provide and maintain a Navy;

    To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

    To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

    To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

    To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;–And

    To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

    Article IV, Section 3
    New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.

    The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to Prejudice any Claims of the United States, or of any particular State.

    Amendment XVI
    (Ratified February 3, 1913.)
    The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

  28. If that were true what Michelle is saying:

    Article I, Section. 8.
    The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

    To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

    To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

    To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

    To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

    To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

    To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

    To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

    To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

    To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

    To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

    To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

    To provide and maintain a Navy;

    To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

    To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

    To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

    To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;–And

    To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

    Article IV, Section 3
    New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.

    The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to Prejudice any Claims of the United States, or of any particular State.

    Amendment XVI
    (Ratified February 3, 1913.)
    The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

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