Bryan Fischer Says Sikh Temple Shooter a Liberal Because He’s a Nazi

Bigot King Bryan Fischer, the Director of Issues Analysis for the American Family Association (AFA) says the neo-Nazi murderer who went on a killing spree in a Wisconsin Sikh temple was a liberal because the Nazis were liberals.

Watch via Right Wing Watch:

You know what the Nazi Party stands for? It’s the National Socialist Party. What about the word “socialist” do you not understand? They were the National Socialist Party – that is a left-wing political philosophy. And you think even here in the United States, who was the part of racism? It was the left, it was liberals who were the part of racism. It was Democrats that supported and defended the institution of slavery. It was Democrats that resisted the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments. It was Democrats that instituted Jim Crow laws. It was Democrats that created the Ku Klux Klan. It was Democrats that filibustered the Civil Rights Acts of the mid-1960s.

Were the Nazis liberals? Far from it. It is ironic to hear Fischer talk about understanding when he himself understands so little. He proves he has a literally third-grade understanding of history. Which means anyone who looks up to him as an expert must have a second-grade appreciation of history. It’s truly terrifying that people that ill-informed are allowed to vote – the comparison brings to mind the fears of some of the Founding Fathers about the ignorant masses.

But enough about stupid Republicans. No, I kid. Let’s talk some more about stupid Republicans.

I want to show you here some of the many ways in which the ideology and rhetoric of Hitler and National Socialism echo not liberalism, which it strongly condemns (along with atheism and feminism) but modern conservative attitudes – particularly with regard to a moral/religious revival and national exceptionalism.

Hitler’s anti-communist rhetoric echoes Ann Coulter’s – he even sounds like her, which makes you wonder if she has consciously modeled herself on him. Here is something Hitler said about Germany exceptionalism:

“Only brainless dwarfs cannot realize that Germany has been the breakwater against Communist floods which would have drowned Europe and its culture.”[1]

Or consider for a moment Hitler’s speech to the National Socialist Women’s Organization in September 1934, and you will hear echoes from the American Right (or vice versa):

“The phrase ‘women’s liberation’ is a phrase invented only by Jewish intellectualism, and its content is shaped by the same spirit.”[2]

Keep in mind that for Hitler and National Socialism, Judaism was to be equated with Bolshevism (Communism). The two were inseparable. So how can Hitler be a liberal and hate communism and women’s liberation when according to Republican ideologues it is liberals who are behind communism and women’s liberation?

Verdict: Hitler sounds like a Republican.

You’ve just listened to Bryan Fischer. You’ve heard other Republicans decry Nazism as socialist (and therefore Left-wing rather than Right-wing) but this ignores the way in which National Socialism viewed socialism. The Nazi conception again sounds very much like Republicanism:

“The Nazis’ notion of socialism bore some resemblance to the ‘Prussian socialism’ of discipline, duty, and service advocated by such theorists of the ‘conservative revolution’ as Oswald Spengler.”[3]

Republicans decry liberals for having no conception of these things: discipline, duty, service. They cannot have it both ways. If National Socialists promoted discipline, duty and sacrifice and Republicans promote discipline, duty and sacrifice, then how is National Socialism liberal?

I mean, look at what Hitler said about liberalism. He sounds like a Republican; it is literally right out of the GOP playbook. No Democratic politician or thinker would say this:

“Liberalism led to democracy, and democracy would lead to communism.”[4]

And like Republicans today, Hitler believed only strong-arm methods against the Left could stop the slide.

In a speech of 20 February 1933, significantly to leading German industrialists, Hitler stated that Bismarck’s statement that

“Liberalism is the pacemaker of Social Democracy”is now scientifically established and proven for us” and warned that “a given school of thought – thought direction – can unsuspectedly lead towards the dissolution of the foundation of the state.”

In the same speech, Hitler echoes Glenn Beck. Compare and contrast if you will:

Beck: “I, as a citizen, have a right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, but that is not a guarantee of equal results.” – point 6 of Glenn Beck’s Nine Principles)

Hitler: “It is not by chance that one person accomplishes more than the other. The principle of private ownership…is rooted in this fact.”

Hitler also said in that speech, “We do not want communism in our economy.” The Republicans – and Beck – wholeheartedly agree.

Bryan Fischer says the Democratic Party has always been “the party of racism” but listen to Hitler on January 27, 1932 in a speech to the Industry Club, Dusseldorf:

“This view which forms the basis of the whole of the international thought-world of today and in its effects is carried to such lengths that in the end a Negro can sit as president in the sessions of the League of Nations leads necessarily as a further consequence to the point that in a similar way within a people differences in value between the individual members of this people are denied.”

Bryan Fischer claims that the Democrats are by nature racist but it isn’t Democrats who hate having a black president, draw pictures of a White House surrounded by a watermelon patch or sing “Barack the Magic Negro”; that would be the Republicans. Seems Nazism and the GOP have another thing in common: racism.

While we’re on the subject of racism and stupid Republicans, think about this: Fischer says the Democratic Party is responsible for the Ku-Klux Klan. So why is it that Republican governor Bobby Jindal’s new education program in Louisiana teaches that the KKK weren’t such bad fellows after all? This is right out of one of their textbooks:

“[The Ku Klux] Klan in some areas of the country tried to be a means of reform, fighting the decline in morality and using the symbol of the cross. Klan targets were bootleggers, wife-beaters, and immoral movies. In some communities it achieved a certain respectability as it worked with politicians.”United States History for Christian Schools, 3rd ed., Bob Jones University Press, 2001

Remember, Bobby Jindal is being considered as a Republican vice presidential candidate – not a Democratic. You won’t find Democrats anywhere defending the KKK. White Supremacists are wholly on the side of conservative politicians today.

Atheism is another bogeyman in the Republican fear & hate paradigm; their abhorrence for atheism is well known and attested – you literally cannot draw two breaths without hearing another attack on atheism and how it is destroying the moral fabric of our country.

We have seen how atheists, as well as liberals and feminists, were responsible for 9/11:

Jerry Falwell: “The ACLU’s got to take a lot of blame for this. … And I know that I’ll hear from them for this. But, throwing God out successfully with the help of the federal court system, throwing God out of the public square, out of the schools. The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way – all of them who have tried to secularize America – I point the finger in their face and say: “You helped this happen.””[5]

In Godless: The Church of Liberalism (2006), we learn from Ann Coulter than liberals are atheists.[6] Conservapedia defines a liberal (communist/socialist) in basically the same terms as Hitler: someone who rejects Christianity and embraces a materialistic spirit: “A liberal (also leftist) is someone who rejects logical and biblical standards, often for self-centered reasons.”

Hitler also hated atheists. He spoke out against them frequently. He was himself a Catholic.[7] His voters were Christians – Protestants and Catholics.

Listen to Hitler on March 23, 1933 Berlin:

“The advantages of a personal and political nature that might arise from compromising with atheistic organizations would not outweigh the consequences which would become apparent in the destruction of general moral basic values. We were convinced that the people need and require this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out.”

Or to Hitler’s speech in Berlin, February 23, 1933:

“A campaign against the “godless movement” and an appeal for Catholic support were launched Wednesday by Chancellor Adolf Hitler’s forces. They struck at two of his formidable opponents in the March 5 elections, the first at communists and the latter at the allied Catholic parties.”[8]

You want religious revival? Nobody is going to argue, not even a liar like Bryan Fischer, that the Democratic Party is pushing religious revivals, but listen to Hitler on March 23, 1933:

“The Government, being resolved to undertake the political and moral purification of our public life, is creating and securing the conditions necessary for a really profound revival of religious life.”

Or to Hitler on October 24, 1933:

“We were convinced that the people need and require this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out.”

Who was the last Democratic candidate you heard speak out against atheism?

As a final comparison, Republican dislike for “secular” schools is well-attested. Think again about Bobby Jindal’s religious school program in Louisiana. Remember all the Republican rhetoric about these schools being necessary to bring the “word of God” back into our children’s education.

As it happens, Hitler spoke out against secular schools too. Here is Hitler on April 26, 1933, during negotiations leading to the Nazi-Vatican Concordant:

“Secular schools can never be tolerated because such schools have no religious instruction, and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith …we need believing people.”

Republicans speak often of the threat posed to “traditional values” by liberalism. Hitler saw the same threat, and Republican discourse again echoes National Socialist discourse.

Hitler, appearing in Dusseldorf on January 27, 1932 spoke of “the destruction of a people’s true values.” This is the same sort of thing we see spoken of on the right, an appeal to emotion, to fear of loss.

Here is Hitler April 1 1939 in Wilhemshaven:

“Thus we began the gigantic work of rebuilding based upon the confidence of the nation, instilled with the belief and the confidence in its eternal values.”

So though Republicans like to call Hitler a liberal, he was in fact a conservative, and the German people who supported him were conservatives and moreover, not atheists or Pagans (both groups ended up, with liberals, in concentration camps) but conservative Christians, both Protestants and Catholics.  We have already seen how he denounced liberalism and communism.

He also favored big business, he called for a renewal of values, he embraced morality and denounced immorality

Take Hitler’s proclamation of February 1, 1933 on his assumption of power the day before: “It struck a conservative, revivalist, anti-communist tone.” – a description that fits the Republican message of today:[9]

Communism with its method of madness is making a powerful and insidious attack upon our dismayed and shattered nation. It seeks to poison and disrupt in order to hurl us into an epoch of chaos…. This negative, destroying spirit spared nothing of all that is highest and most valuable. Beginning with the family, it has undermined the very foundations of morality and faith and scoffs at culture and business, nation and Fatherland, justice and honor.

On March 23, 1933 Hitler was in Berlin: speaking of “a thorough moral purging of the body corporate of the nation” and of “the maintenance of the eternal values present in the essential character of our people.”

Compare Mein Kampf (which Ann Coulter dishonestly equates with Obama’s autobiography) to Ann Coulter.

First Adolf Hitler:

Parallel to the training of the body a struggle against the poisoning of the soul must begin. Our whole public life today is like a hothouse for sexual ideas and simulations. Just look at the bill of fare served up in our movies, vaudeville and theaters, and you will hardly be able to deny that this is not the right kind of food, particularly for the youth…Theater, art, literature, cinema, press, posters, and window displays must be cleansed of all manifestations of our rotting world and placed in the service of a moral, political, and cultural idea.  – Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 10

Now Ann Coulter:

“Americans cannot comprehend how their fellow countrymen could not love their country. But the left’s anti-Americanism is intrinsic to their entire worldview. Liberals promote the right of Islamic fanatics for the same reason they promote the rights of adulterers, pornographers, abortionists, criminals, and Communists. They instinctively root for anarchy against civilization. The inevitable logic of the liberal position is to be for treason.”[10]

Words, as shown here, literally right out of Hitler’s mouth.

 


[1] The Nazi Germany Sourcebook: An Anthology of Texts by Roderick Stackelberg, Sally Anne Winkle London Routledge 2002, 179.

[2] Stackleberg and Winkle (2002), 182.

[3] Stackleberg and Winkle (2002), 128.

[4] Stackleberg and Winkle (2002), 128.

[5] Jerry Falwell, 700 Club (Morning Edition), September 13, 2001

[6] For numerous falsehoods, misrepresentations and invented “facts” in Godless see Media Matters for America http://mediamatters.org/research/200608070002

[7] Hitler told General Gerhart Engel in 1941: “I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so.” He was a tithe paying Catholic till the day he died, was baptized a Roman Catholic, was an altar boy, and was never excommunicated.

[8] Lansing State Journal newspaper (Lansing, Michigan) of February 23, 1933.

[9] Stackelberg and Winkle (2002), 125.

[10] Ann Coulter (2004), 292.

47 Replies to “Bryan Fischer Says Sikh Temple Shooter a Liberal Because He’s a Nazi”

  1. What is most disturbing to me is the bs in the Bob Jones Univ text books. There is going to be a generation of kids brought up on this crap. They’ll go to good chrisian colleges (the only ones that would accept them…places like Bob Jones U, not Boston College) and then run for public office.
    I’m just waiting for the right wing parts of the country to secede – it’s not impossible.

  2. He’s right with respect to the historical aspects of the Southern Democrats. Where he’s missed the boat is that most of those Southern Democrats turned to the Republican party in the early sixties, as the Democratic party became less socially conservative.

  3. AND that the Republican Party’s nominee for US President in ’64 Barry Goldwater VOTED AGAINST the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Also Strom Thurmond bolted from the Democratic Party AFTER the legislation was passed.

    I can’t stand half-baked history.

  4. The haters are like schoolyard bullies. They call anyone they want to tortue as many names as possible. The funny thing is most of these haters are to ignorant and illerate that they do not know what those names mean.

  5. One question…what is gonna take to shut this idiot up from making such stupid and uneducated statements that in all honesty make him look like the jackass that he always wanted to be? He succeeded in being the jackass a long time ago! Now, to shut up his baying!!! He grates like nails to a chalk board!!

  6. Labels keep you from having to think. Because if you think too hard, you’ll chuck these jerks. Getting sick of all the fear mongering for money, which is EXACTLY what this guy is doing.

  7. And in thst Bryan Fischer is a typical right winger, using the name to vilify Democrats while ignoring the philosophy and history of the Deep South Democrats turned Republicans.

    Ignorant, or on purpose?

  8. I like this one too…read about his wanting to form one, big Evangelical Church of the Reich.

    “Amongst the accusations which are directed against Germany in the so called democracies is the charge that the National Socialist State is hostile to religion. In answer to that charge I should like to make before the German people the following solemn declaration:

    1. No one in Germany has in the past been persecuted because of his religious views (Einstellung), nor will anyone in the future be so persecuted….

    The Churches are the greatest landed proprietors after the State… Further, the Church in the National Socialist State is in many ways favoured in regard to taxation, and for gifts, legacies, &c., it enjoys immunity from taxation.

    It is therefore, to put mildly– effrontery when especially foreign politicians make bold to speak of hostility to religion in the Third Reich….

    I would allow myself only one question: what contributions during the same period have France, England, or the United States made through the State from the public funds?

    3. The National Socialist State has not closed a church, nor has it prevented the holding of a religious service, nor has it ever exercised any influence upon the form of a religious service. It has not exercised any pressure upon the doctrine nor on the profession of faith of any of the Confessions. In the National Socialist State anyone is free to seek his blessedness after his own fashion….

    There are ten thousands and ten thousands of priests of all the Christian Confessions who perform their ecclesiastical duties just as well as or probably better than the political agitators without ever coming into conflict with the laws of the State….

    This State has only once intervened in the internal regulation of the Churches, that is when I myself in 1933 endeavoured to unite the weak and divided Protestant Churches of the different States into one great and powerful Evangelical Church of the Reich. That attempt failed through the opposition of the bishops of some States; it was therefore abandoned. For it is in the last resort not our task to defend or even to strengthen the Evangelical Church through violence against its own representatives….

    But on one point it is well that there should be no uncertainty: the German priest as servant of God we shall protect, the priest as political enemy of the German State we shall destroy.

    -Adolf Hitler, a speech in the Reichstag on 30 Jan. 1939 [Baynes] “

  9. Fischer keeps coming back to the “Nazis are socialists–it’s in their name!” crap, which makes me laugh. According to his logic, the former East Germany must have had a government much like ours; after all, the called themselves the German Democratic Republic.

    He’s such a tool.

  10. This thread should be bookmarked or highlighted on the site. People need to know that (1) there are legitimate comparisons between the conservatives/Republicans and the Nazis, (2) that those comparisons run far deeper than most know, and (3) this country is in dire danger of following Germany’s footsteps if the Republicans/Tea Party/Dominionists aren’t stopped.

    Yes, it can happen. Right here.

  11. At this point, I fear our best hope is that these Tea Party nutjobs finally go into the last of their berzerk death throes and secede the union. And take all the loudmouth wack jobs with them.

  12. Thank you Singh; there was literally too much relevant “Hitler-speak” to include but a tiny fraction of it in my post.

  13. “My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.”

    -Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)

  14. The sad thing is that most of the people who actually listen to this moron are uneducated enough to believe him, and so incurious as to not even bother to look up the truth for themselves.

    The very use of the term “National Socialist” was in its own time a farce. There was nothing “socialist” whatsoever about the Third Reich. It was a fascist state, plain and simple, which is about as far to the right as you can get short of a theocracy. If they were indeed socialists, then why was the Soviet Union seen as one of their most bitter enemies? Why did Hitler expend so many lives and so much materiel fighting against the Russian socialists?

    Once again, the lackies of the right are resorting to projection in order to distract their base from the reality of history. It was not liberals who build concentration camps and send millions to their deaths. It was conservatives. Religious, cultural and political conservatives.

    When confronting this sort of absurdity, one must remember that the Christian nationalist movement (that folks like Fischer represent) is DYING. Their support is based on middle-aged and elderly conservatives. They have very little hold on the younger generation, and they know that their days are numbered. Hence, the fiery rhetoric and fearmongering. They are scared, and so they will shriek louder and louder until their voices are silenced by attrition. More and more of their base dies every day, and they have little to no ability to replenish their ranks.

  15. Following this cretin’s logic, the cowardly individual who committed this atrocity would more likely be a Conservative RePUBIC-clown who seem to be full of hate nowadays for anyone who is not one of those one percenters!

  16. This:

    “It was a fascist state, plain and simple, which is about as far to the right as you can get short of a theocracy.”
    -Cobalt Blue

    Enough said.

  17. Projection is very much part of the conservative mindset. I especially love how these nutters have the nerve to say “Liberalism is a mental disease” while spouting the craziest of conspiracy theories and unmitigated hate.

  18. Bryan Fischer Says Sikh Temple Shooter a Liberal Because He’s a Nazi

    It’s funny how a Wade Michael Page, a Jared Lee Loughner, a Byron Williams {I-580 shooter}, and an Anders Behring Breivik can be associated with any and all far-right, racist, and separatist organizations . . .

    . . . and yet, the moment they commit a heinous act of violence, they MAGICALLY become “liberals” . . .

    .

  19. Wow, is Mr. Fischer living in a fantasy world; the temple shooter was a Conservative Wrong-Wing Nut Job domestic terrorist; by the way, I do grow weary of the GOP comparing the Demos and President Obama to Hitler and Nazis when it’s the policies and actions of the GOP that match those Nazis, aka, FASCISM! Do me a favor and look up fascism online and read the 14 tenets of fascism; you’ll see that the GOP practice and have practiced every last one of them; the only real difference between today’s lunatic GOP and the Nazis is that the GOP lacks a “Hitler-like” character to lead it…Mittens the Liar Rmoney doesn’t have the stomach for fascism; he’s more about greed, corruption and elitism smh

  20. Anyone care to comment about the titles of China: PDR (People’s Democratic Republic) and North Korea: PDRK (People’s Democratic Republic of Korea)?

  21. Does it really matter what this fool says in regards to who is a ‘Nazi’ or not?

    Anyone calling others Nazis are usually pro Jewish, Israel, zionist and a hater of Muslims.

    The real story should be on why this ‘Sikh temple shooter’ did what he did. And it has absolutely nothing to do with Nazis or Hitler.

    The real culprits behind the mental conditioning of the ‘Sikh temple shooter’ are the Jewish msm and co.

    Who else gives airtime to the Jews and water carriers such as the hate filled Gellars and Spencers of the world to spew their filth?

    No matter in which direction you look at in regards to anything anti Islam/Arabs, then look no further than the Jew who is ALWAYS behind it all.

    Norway’s Anders Breivik even mentions by name Robert Spencer and Pamella Gellar in his manifesto.

    We are going to see massacres like this one happen again many times over again, simply because we allow Jews and co to spew their hate every single day without any real resistance. And there are folks out their who have lost all hope and believe that by hating, assaulting, killing Muslim/Arabs, will somehow make their lives and their nation better.

    I have yet to see or hear of any Jew/Jewish groups who have publicly and openly opposed to the sinister and treasonous actions of their tribe.

    So I hold the Jews responsible for every single hate crime committed against Muslims/Arabs because they are responsible FOR IT ALL.

    Civilian

  22. “Civilian” – I’d bet that you’re in the KKK. You sound just like those BIGOTS. (And yes, I’m telling you you are a bigot!)

    “The Jews” are not guilty of anything. They’re generally decent folks who have been falsely maligned for millenia because a religion that became dominant got into a religious conflict with them (and they were a minority). Like any group, there are good and bad people but you cannot blame the innocent for the crimes of the guilty (that’s the hallmark of “Good Christians”, btw). The nation of Israel – it IS guilty of crimes against humanity (it also has it’s good points). If you look at what has happened, however, whenever any group or nation is run by conservatives, especially extreme conservatives (think religious right), that group or nation does wrong and tries to call it “right”. When liberals were more in control, the abuses were less.

    _________________

    mjh – I think that’s part of their plan. They have been obviously trying to equate liberals (and the occupy movement) with violence, even though that’s not true and we can prove it. That’s why we have so much news about security for the Republican convention… it sets the stage for agent provocateurs (which the Republicans have been caught using time and time again).

  23. To a walkaway,

    KKK, bigot?

    Your response and the language you use is typically pro Jewish/Zionist in nature.

    You don’t actually don’t say much except throw insults and then basically run away. But that’s okay, you already now this, so I am just pointing your sad and dying pro Jewish/Zionist tactic for others to see and to be aware of.

    The Jews DO own and control the msn, this is fact. It may be something you don’t like to being exposed for all to see and hear but its the ugly truth and can’t be denied no matter how hard you try.

    The deliberate, sinister and very hateful anti Islam/Arab poison, that is being shoved down our throats and into our minds every single day since 2001 and is being pushed by the Jewish owned and controlled msm. This also can’t be denied by anyone of sound mind and basic analysis.

    Are you able to respond this time round minus all the childish name calling such as KKK, Hitler, Nazi,
    Holocaust denier rubbish?

    Civilian

  24. Yeah, and your teeth have cavities, and your fillings give you broadcasts, and my dog peed on your hedge, and you’re getting old, and the Jooz did it.

  25. And the mildew in your shower and the mold on your fridge and the aphids in your garden and the last solar eclipse and the fact that cigarettes make you sick and your coffee tastes like slop and your fallen arches- the Jooz did all that to you, too. What dangerous people! Don’t piss them off!

  26. To reynadine,

    You have absolutely nothing except the usual and expected pro Jewish/Zionist tactic of deflection and pathetic attempt at ridicule.

    I will quote what I said and that is,

    “The deliberate, sinister and very hateful anti Islam/Arab poison, that is being shoved down our throats and into our minds every single day since 2001 and is being pushed by the Jewish owned and controlled msm. This also can’t be denied by anyone of sound mind and basic analysis.”

    And I will stand behind what I’ve stated 100% unless yourself or any other person can prove or convince me otherwise.

    I would also like to add that the anti Muslim/Arab poison being spewed from the likes of Pamela Gellar and Robert Spencer are being backed and funded by Jews.

    Where are all the Jewish groups condemning all the hate and fear of Muslims/Arabs, that is shamelessly being pushed into the minds of millions by members of their tribe?

    Civilian

  27. Well now, Civilian, you’re claiming ….” anti Islam/Arab poison ……. since 2001.. is being pushed by the Jewish owned and controlled msm.”…

    Sorry, Civilian, I don’t claim the MSM as a source, but mine include (note all the REPUBLICANS, Civilian):
    Reps. Michele Bachmann (R-MN), Louie Gohmert (R-TX), Trent Franks (R-AZ), Thomas Rooney (R-FL.) and Lynn Westmoreland (R-Ga), Televangelist Pat Robertson, Fox *entertainment-for-thugs* news, Family Research Council’s Jerry Boykin, Focus on the Family’s James Dobson, Center for Security Policy’s Frank Gaffney, Hate Radio Rush Limbaugh…

    You claiming my sources of hate-mongering are Jewish, Civilian?

  28. You’d have to be more intelligent and informed to be dangerous.

    Seriously, you’re a hoot! It’s been a long time since I’ve heard or read such nonsense. You DO sound like the nutcases in the KKK… maybe you have some other nice funny (and insane) conspiracy theories to throw about.

    Take a bit of advice… you’re so delusional that you may need medical care. See a doctor.

  29. By the way… I probably know more Muslims than you’ve MET. You don’t have a clue… a single clue about the situation. I’m proud to call quite a few of them colleagues, and a few friends. They’d look at your words and think that you’re a sad example of the recent decline in American society.

    I really don’t give a damn what someone else’s religion is, unless they force it on me – insisting that I believe as they do. I seek to learn from all religions… and Judaism has taught me much because it WAS Jesus’ own religion (He WAS, after all, born a Jew, lived as a Jew, and DIED AS A JEW.) What I learn from other religions informs my own. Hate as you’ve been spewing… it runs counter to everything I’ve ever learned… it’s the inverse.

    I just hope you don’t think of yourself as a Christian.

  30. So let me get this straight, you actually believe that the Jewish owned and controlled msn DOES NOT push anti Muslim/Arab poison and hate in their msm.

    Is this what you want me and many others to honestly believe?

    I’m happy that you have Muslim friends and that you get along but that doesn’t change the fact about the Jewish owned and controlled msn pushing anti Muslim/Arab hate.

    I’m not suggesting for a single moment that all Jews are bad that way then that’s th way it is.

    I agree wholeheartedly that most peoples regardless of colour, religion, just want to live in peace and get on in life.

    But I am not seeing the same attitude coming out of the Jewish owned and controlled msm. And instead what I am seeing and hearing is the complete opposite.

    How can ayone with their eyes and ears open not see this any other way is beyond me.

    You may not like to hear it or can’t hear it because you are not on the receiving end of it all. But you can be certain that the voices will get louder and this in turn will eventually turn to violence.

    And as you know, hate does not discriminate and innocent folks will get caught up in it all

    People need to wake up before its too late.

    With power comes responsibility.

    Civilian

  31. Yes I did say that and stand by it 100%.

    And I notice that you actually don’t deny my claim but instead offer up other haters and instigators.

    Which is fine but my claim still stands and cannot be denied by any rational thinking person.

    Have another go if you will and try to prove my claim wrong.

    Civilian

  32. Sorry, Hitler’s Big Lie approach won’t work on me. It only makes me a little irritated.

    The mainstream media owned by Jews? That lie has been disproved for a long time. In fact, if you’d open your eyes even a tiny bit, you’d learn otherwise.

    Here’s a tidbit of information that tends to disprove the lies you believe:

    After television went digital, the Jewish people (and many others) filed complaints because the “Good Christian” megachurches were buying up and filing license requests for all of the new channels and subchannels. It was so bad that the FCC had to put a moratorium on new requests, and I think there is even some sort of lawsuit or action regarding the attempts to “Take over the airwaves for Jesus”. The Jews have a legitimate complaint, because the megachurches were getting these licenses and spaces and using them for proselytizing – sometimes overt, but often more covert. Even liberal Christian groups have found themselves blocked because of the efforts of the “Good Christian” megachurches.

    In fact, in our area, there are some stations that like to play the old TV shows (ones that I used to like and still do). The only problem is – you get subjected to a bit of scripture between each show and even during commercial breaks, along with preaching and everything else objectionable – and it’s all slanted towards conservatism too. The only ones that aren’t that way are the big three, and they also are bad about propaganda… for conservative and racist causes but less for religious causes (I remember many instances where they promoted Christianity through shows… kind of goes against Jewish ownership doesn’t it?). BTW… it’s almost a given that if a person is a racist, they’re also going to be antisemitic (e.g. the Klan). If the Jews owned everything, they wouldn’t be supporting a mindset that is connected to antisemitism, would they? I don’t think so!

    You won’t convince me, and you won’t convince anyone with half a mind, so put a sock in it, OK? Go back to your racist buddies if you don’t like it. That antisemitic bullshit doesn’t fly.

  33. Oh, and here’s another tidbit regarding the Jewish people.

    Unlike the “Good Christians”, who even when they thought they were helping, were actually harming us (by taking away our ability to make choices, or considering only what they wanted to do and not asking what our real needs were, or putting unreasonable rules on us in return for aid), the Jewish people we’ve known and been around have only been positive and helpful. They didn’t force themselves on us. They ASKED what our needs were if there was such a situation where we had unmet needs – and if they could, they’d meet those needs. They didn’t demand church (synagogue) attendance, along with a portion of our income for the rest of our lives in exchange for a pittance in aid. They didn’t try to tell me what I could and couldn’t do. They didn’t block employment or prevent me from trying to earn an income – LIKE THE “GOOD CHRISTIANS” did.

    In fact, while the damned “Good Christian” churches often tried to force me into stereotypes (for instance -you’re disabled… that means you cannot do this and cannot do that, and you’re also not as mentally competent as well) and “Good Christians” refused to cut me the slack needed because of my physical limitations, the Jews I’ve been around (along with liberals and even socialists) actually helped me to find ways to function in spite of my limitations – the very thing I’d been begging for from the “Good Christians” but was denied! The Jews I’ve been around in the last few years have treated my wife and I as human beings – something we’re still not used to!

    So your blind hatred of Jews, based on bullshit, doesn’t even begin to fly with me. I KNOW BETTER! The Jews and non-Christians (and those hated by the church – the LGBT community) have treated the two of us far better than any of the damned churches. At least now – some “Good Christians” say “too late” to me and that I should be thinking about retirement instead of a career – I’ve got some hope for a future (for a life) and I’ve actually been dreaming about a real career.

    The goddamned “Good Christians” STILL are trying to take that hope and my dreams away… the hope and dreams given to me by the Jews and Liberals.

    Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

  34. I’d pay you 5 dollars to accuse Bachmann of being Jewish to her face. It would be worth the laugh, Civilian.

    The hate-mongering is real, Civilian, we can agree on that much. I stand on my claim that it emanates from the Republican Party – the tea sect of the GOP.

  35. Well, she’s a dominionist and she might actually say that she is Jewish because of that!

    They do teach that they’re the “Real Jews” (sometimes “Real Spiritual Jews”) and there is an entire ersatz “Jewish” movement (meant to proselytize and trick Jews into converting) called the “Messianic Jewish” movement. It came out of the Assemblies and is rabidly dominionist.

    They haven’t, as far as I know, gone as far as the Mormons do in calling Jews “Gentiles”, but they do think of them as cannon fodder and necessary targets for destruction by God (in their “Last Days” scenario).

  36. Why do many Jews argue and try to defend the lie that the msn isn’t owned and controlled by Jews?

    It’s oh so painfully obvious and right in your face every single day. Even Jews themselves believe this and unashamedly publish it for all to see.

    http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/jews-do-control-the-media/

    Are the likes of Friedman just lying or are they just uninformed on the issue?

    And notice how in the comments section, no one even tries to dispute his obvious claim.

    Why would you go out of your way to openly lie about the basic and irrefutable facts that I and many others have laid to bare ?

    Are you ashamed and don’t want to be associated with all the filth and lies perpetuated by them? Or are you just going into tribal mode and instictavly protecting the lies.

    How long will you continue on doing this?

  37. “One thing I’m sure of is that there are people in this country – there is a radical strain of Islam in this country -– it’s not just over there –- trying to kill Americans every week. It is a real threat, and it is a threat that is much more at home now than it was after 9/11.” – Joe Walsh (Republican IL)

    And then there was another shooting.

    Republicans fear-mongering. Republicans inciting violence. Republicans, sniveling cowards.

  38. The Jewess and her Jewish backers want to place “ads” on city buses and they read,

    “In any war between the civilized man and the savage,

    support the civilized man.” Then, between two Jewish Stars of David,

    the ad reads: “Support Israel. Defeat Jihad.”

    Where is the ADL? Mr Foxman, where are you? Where are all the Jews condemning this fear and hatemongering against not only Palestinians but every single Muslim in the US and all over the globe.

    That’s right, you won’t hear it but what the Jews will offer you instead are excuses for their criminal behaviour and the obligatory name calling such as KKK, Hitler, Nazi, what racist, Holocaust denier and all the other rubbish that they have crafted so well.

    Could you just imagine for a second, the kicking, screeching by the Jew had the “ads” read, “DEFEND PALESTINE, DEFEAT ZIONISM”?

    It wouldn’t see the light of day and the judge involved would be applying for a job at Taco Bells.

    Civilian

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