Sen. Barbara Boxer Wonders Why Hobby Lobby Defenders Aren’t Complaining About Viagra

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During an interview with Chris Jansing of MSNBC on Tuesday, Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA) slammed the people running Hobby Lobby for having no moral qualms covering Viagra on their insurance plan. Boxer was on Jansing and Co. to discuss the current case before the Supreme Court, Sebelius V. Hobby Lobby.

The arts and crafts store is currently challenging the requirement that the company’s medical insurance cover all forms of birth control. Essentially, the corporate heads state that they have a moral objection to this requirement on religious grounds, and that their corporation should be seen as a religious entity. The court’s decision could have far-reaching implications, especially if it rules in favor of Hobby Lobby. The very definition of a corporation could be changed and it is possible that a loophole could be formed allowing other businesses to claim ‘religious freedom’ as a way of circumventing the law.

Anyway, Boxer wondered aloud why those who are objecting to women having their birth control covered by their health insurance have no similar objection to the same insurance covering Viagra for men.

“I have never heard Hobby Lobby or any other corporation, I could be wrong, or any other boss complain that Viagra is covered in many insurance plans, practically all of them, or other kinds of things, you know, for men, which I won’t go into.”

Jansing then responded back that those who are objecting aren’t doing so due to premarital sex or an aversion to sex in general, but because this ‘is a life issue.’ Boxer then hammered back at that argument and pointed out the slippery slope that this presents. If corporations like Hobby Lobby are allowed to circumvent the law of the land by stating it infringes on the company’s religious freedom, then what else can a corporation be allowed to get away with?

“I have never heard them put any type of moral objection, remember, this is a moral objection, to men getting Viagra, but they have a moral objection to women getting certain types of birth control.What’s their next moral objection, do they then object to vaccinations? Where do you take it from here? … There has been a well-documented study by a university that gave women free birth control for several years. Abortions went down by 50 percent, Chris. So if you are for life and want to attack this issue for abortion, this is a place we could work together and reduce the number of abortions.

I view this as very much an anti-woman position to take. And it’s important to note that women take birth control, more than half of them, as a medication for other conditions, so it is an attack on women. I think it’s an attack on the religious freedom of the women who work there. Remember, no one is forced to take birth control. It’s an individual right, and this is America, and this is the 21st century, and this is shocking.”

In a nutshell, Boxer pointed out that not only is this case being used as a way for corporations to get around laws that they don’t like, but it is also a way for men to exert control over women. Sen. Boxer brilliantly interjected the fact that Viagra and other ‘erectile dysfunction’ drugs are generally covered by employer-provided health insurance plans. Yet, there appears to be no moral objection voiced anywhere about this, despite the fact that the only use for these drugs are so men, usually older, can engage in sexual intercourse.

Obviously Sen. Boxer sees the irony that the majority of those doing the objecting regarding birth control are older men. This also serves as a nice little dig at Rush Limbaugh and his slut-shaming of Sandra Fluke back in 2012. Limbaugh, as well as other male conservative pundits like Bill O’Reilly, have objected to insurance fully covering contraception because they feel it promotes promiscuity.

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47 Replies to “Sen. Barbara Boxer Wonders Why Hobby Lobby Defenders Aren’t Complaining About Viagra”

  1. The ‘other’ kinds of things for men that Ms. Boxer didn’t go into was the fact that tens of millions of dollars is spent on penile implants every year.
    And of course, I’ll say it again.
    The insurance mandate for birth control was written into the PPACA because it was originally mandated OVER A DECADE AGO!!! The framers of the ACA didn’t think it would be an issue since it was already on the “books”.
    And of course, Hobby Lobby didn’t say a word about it, until now.

  2. So, if Viagra is ok for everyone, then every sperm ISN’T sacred? How can that be? If a sperm is wasted, God gets QUITE irate!

    I’m sure that Rush pays full price on his Viagra. How else could he possibly have a stash of 29 of them in someone else’ name. That’s a non-issue for him.

  3. I love Barbara! She always gets right to the point and she tells the truth. Plus, she is an attractive woman. Really must tick off the GOP…our women stand up for truth instead of slinking away and hiding behind Boehner and Cantor until they are pushed out to claim they support taking away the rights of their ‘sisters.’ Come on, Sarah, tell us why old Todd should get his Viagra covered under a policy, but your daughters can’t get pills for heavy periods, debilitating cramps, or the myriad of other reasons women use the pill. God, this country is going to hell. Thanks, GOP. You will NOT turn us into Saudi Arabia or Iran. We WILL vote you out in November. Maybe then you will actually read those Bibles you think are in the Constitution.

  4. Great comments. Thank you!
    Another issue that is not being discussed by Hobby Lobby is the fact that birth control is also;
    vasectomies
    tubal ligation
    Does this mean that an employee of HL has to pay full price if they choose to have a vasectomy or a tubal ligation?
    Or does HL not even care about that?

  5. While Sen. Boxer makes a good point in general, it is worth noting that Hobby Lobby’s owners are not Catholic, and do not object to contraceptives per se. They do not want to cover IUDs or Plan B, because they (erroneously) believe these can be abortive. Their grasp of the science behind both methods is flawed. However, even if they were correct they would still be in the wrong on this issue.

    I wonder how, if they have incorporated their business (as a means of avoiding personal fiscal responsibility, among other things), they can argue that their personal beliefs should enter into the equation at all.

  6. Ms Boxer is quite a dynamo. She’s been a fighter for women’s rights who does not back down. She doesn’t mince words. Bravo for her. She speaks the thoughts of many women.

  7. I find it hard to imagine that Rush has a need for Viagra because I find it hard to believe that the person he is supposed to be married to is not just a beard.

  8. Barbra Boxer is a great leader. She is right. Frankly, if the ol’ farts didn’t need their viagra covered to get IT up, then many women would have no need for contraceptives.

    Also, women should stand together. It is mostly women that shop at Hobby Lobby. I say – WOMEN, BOYCOTT HOBBY LOBBY!!! Send them a message. Their stores won’t be around much longer if only 1/3 of the women who support their whacked out efforts against women’s rights shop at their stores.

  9. It’s the religious reich at work again, trying to impose their sick evil beliefs upon everyone else. As such, hypocrisy is no problem for them. Nor is telling lies, ignoring the laws, or how much pain they cause other people.

    Christians are the most judgmental, unforgiving, arrogant people on earth.

  10. The reason Hobby Lobby does not complain about viagra is that they like using it (personally) to f**k people. In my opinion.

  11. Most insurance plans do not, I repeat, do not cover Viagra or any ED medication!!! They consider it unnecessary for sustaining health. Medicare covered it in the 90’s until repubs found out and then flipped out over the issue. It is no longer covered by Medicare or Medicaid.

    Why do people keep repeating this lie?

  12. Finally, someone has said what I’ve been saying forever! These wingnuts want it both ways. They have no problem offering Viagra and penis pumps for men on their insurance but when it comes to women…oh, hell not it’s a moral issue when it comes to birth control because it means they’re sluts if they use them. It’s a total double standard. Yeah, there is no war on women [being facetious].

    It’s also like the NRA and christianists’ who support the stand your ground law…they are all pro life but want to be able to kill someone…anyone they feel may in some way threaten then.

  13. A man using an Erectile Dysfunction drug is going against “God’s will”. If he can’t have an erection, God has decided that it is a burden he must bear. A Christian man using an E.D. drug is in sin.

  14. Thank you Senator Boxer. My question added to the nay-sayers for contraception for women has always been, “Why not declare the male enhancement drugs illegal”?

  15. This company is only “religious” when it is convenient to them. It doesn’t bother them to buy their crap from non religious countries that enslave, torture and kill people, and force abortions on their citizens.
    I have tremendous respect for Senator Boxer. She is truly a champion. I only wish more on capitol hill had her backbone and would stand up against these zealots.
    These neanderthal attitudes toward women are despicable. As a man I feel women are more than equal to men. I can guarantee you I could never bear a child! At the protest on this yesterday a woman was holding up a sign that said,”If men had children birth control would be in gumball machines and taste like bacon.” Sad but true.

  16. As djchefron already pointed out, Viagra is covered by most plans under the ACA. As far as Medicare: “The answer is yes and no. Under the Medicare Part D program requirements, which all Part D private insurers are required to be equal or greater than, Viagra, or drugs for erectile dysfunction are not covered. However, some Part D standalone plans or Medicare Advantage Plans with Prescription Drug Coverage (MA-PD’s) provide value added benefits which include Viagra.”

    The question for YOU is why do folks like you continue to repeat the lies? These are FACTS:

    The ACA does not cover abortion.

    The ACA does not cover illegal aliens.

    The ACA does not have exceptions for Muslims.

    The overwhelming majority of Americans participating in the plan are paying LESS for their coverage than before.

    The ACA does not give the government access to your laptop.

    The ACA does not mandate microchips in children.

    The ACA was developed by the Heri…

  17. djchefron. Notice the article talks about a $15 pill. The cost in most of the North East is $20 per pill so a prescription of 5 pills will set a man (and woman) back $120. I.E. it ain’t covered by insurance!

    I’m all for female contraception being covered as it is more cost effective and doesn’t put a woman in a very bad physical and emotional position.

    Vasectomies save society money and are cheaper and less invasive than a tubal ligation. Also most guys are on their own if they want to get a vasectomy reversal. I’m fine with that. Speaking of vasectomies, most doctors won’t perform them if a man is married and does not get his spouses permission. Women do not have to get permission for a sterilization procedure. It should be that way for both.

    I’m not anti-woman or a Repub. I just like facts. Have a great day!

  18. Maybe they are not complaining about viagra is because viagra corrects a medical condition while birth control pills in most cases don’t.

  19. ~ Severe Acne
    ~ Extreme Bleeding
    ~ Polycystic Fibrosis
    ~ Irregular Periods

    These are just some of the medical conditions that are treated with birth control.

  20. Now here is a gal after my heart. In the first paragraph, she says it like it is..
    Love B.B. too. only we women do not get it..It’s men who count these days, what men, want, how often, and they need their Viagra to do it..Not to even mention other means of getting it.
    Women were created for men’s pleasure and children, with no ability for any other purpose. We just don’t get it.. Men are going to continue to pass as many laws as possible to cram it down our throats and keep us in the kitchen and bedroom.

  21. My wife needs it for a non-birth control medical condition as well. This is an issue that not many are discussing. Needs to be brought up more often.

  22. Endometriosis and premenopausal osteoporosis, as well. I add that pregnancy in itself is definitely a medical condition, in some cases life-threatening.

  23. Rep. Boxer you know why? hell, ANYBODY with a IQ over 25 knows! because the fat cat GOPers are MOSTLY 65 PLUS caucasian males! I’m not referring to the rank and file GOPer, I’m talking about republican senators and congressmen and the SUPER rich like the koch boys and the sheldon adleson, john schnatter!! and his trusty little SIDEKICK mouth breather payton manning. MOST republican women are utterly tone deaf to this double standard, I guess because the vast majority of republican females are too damn OLD to care about birth control personally! but being RAPE D! can happen to ANY woman regardless of age but they ignore that too.

  24. @jacqueline, are you REALLY a FEMALE? I’m a male and EVEN I know that many women use birth control for their menstrual cycle to take a edge of bleeding and craps and to regulate that TIME, DAMN! if a 53 year guy from the HOOD knows that, what’s YOUR excuse for not knowing??? I take it YOU’RE a republican female cheerleader, RIGHT?? my God!

  25. On a side note did anyone catch Rand Paul’s snippet about Obama meeting the Pope? He wants Obama to tell the Pope why he is forcing a catholic company to provide birth control. Since Paul obviously doesn’t know HL isn’t a catholic company I felt obliged to point it out to him on his FB page. Anything to get his head in the news. Pathetic. Would love to see him debate Ms. Boxer. Pretty it would would be a lopsided contest.

  26. AS usual no complaints about covering Viagra or PENIS PUMPS. This actually is about the geopigs wanting to push women back to the 50’s they loved so much. In their minds Birth control is only used by the sluts they are constantly talking about.If it happens the geopigs will NEVER AGAIN HAVE THE WHITEHOUSE.

  27. FYI …. the majority of health insurance companies DO NOT COVER Viagra or Cialis or any other erectile dysfunction medication… even if it is prescribed for another condition … which Cialis is ….

  28. I say send them all to Angel 1! For non Trekkies that’s the planet where women are the dominant sex not only in political and authoritative power but they are physically taller and more powerful. These cowards would be vaporized in mere days and no Jean Luc Picard to save them.

  29. Since the Hobby Lobby Corporation is so opposed to abortion, why do they continue to sell merchandise made in China, a country where abortion is not only legal, it’s mandatory, to enforce their one-child-per-family law?

    Additional question. If Hobby Lobby Corporation really is devoutly religious, why is it no one has ever seen Hobby Lobby Corporation attending church?

  30. DJ you are wrong I have heard many women who complain that their husband had to sign off on tubal ligation before doctors would perform it. And if they did not want him to know because he was abusive… Too bad.

  31. Jacqueline S Apparently you are not aware that 60% of women on the pill are on it for medical reasons, NOT birth control. And I have not heard anything about medical reasons for Viagra. They sure don’t mention it in their advertising. What exactly is the medical condition that is improved by having a hard pen*s?

  32. I read somewhere that the owners of HL were Scientologists. If that is the case, I see even Scalia going against them, as he has said some pretty rough things about Scientology and other cult like religions in the past.

  33. The military covers it as does the crappy insurance my partner has. However insurance will only cover five pills each month and his doctor requires him to go in every time he wants a new script. I don’t understand why this is an issue in America in the 21st Century and I don’t understand why any man over the age of 50 needs it? He’s not trying to procreate in most counts and often uses them for sex with escorts as Rush did.

  34. Thank you Senator Boxer. This is similar to what I’ve been saying for quite a while now … no contraception or abortion? Then the male enhancement drugs need to be declared illegal! It makes sense that what’s good for the gander is good for the goose.

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