Creationists Respond to Neil deGrasse Tyson and Cosmos With Moronic Babble

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Throughout history it paid dividends in the form of gaining adherents for the Christian religion to claim they were besieged by various forces of evil despite dominating a great part of the world. Their still-persistent assertions they are being persecuted in one sense or another reveals they suffer a psychologically-complex perception of being persecuted that does not exist. Whether it is the phony war on Christmas or Easter, not being allowed to rule by theocracy, or own women as birth machines, there is perpetual harping by the religious right they are being persecuted in America.

Although fundamentalist Christians have no dearth of so-called tormentors, for the past eleven weeks their greatest enemy has been science in the person of Neil deGrasse Tyson and the Fox science documentary series Cosmos. If one believed idiotic creationists, Tyson and the program’s creators’ sole purpose in producing the series is refuting god, spreading atheism, and debasing the bible for what it really is; mythology for an ancient people void of knowledge of the universe. Of course, their real enemy is science, scientists, and the scientific method their tiny minds can hardly fathom on their best cognitive day, and because it debunks their limited biblical worldview, they feel they are under attack.

In the episode two weeks ago based around Michael Faraday and his brilliant work and research explaining electricity, self-appointed creationist spokesman and defender of the faith, David Klinghoffer, of “Evolution News” was incensed that Faraday’s “faith is mentioned at the beginning, but implicitly dismissed as having anything to do with his science.” It was typical lunacy from the anti-science religious right crowd, and belabors the point that the “faithful” are incapable of bifurcating superstition, fairy tales, and bible mythos from science, fact, and empirical data. Klinghoffer’s idiotic remark makes him and his ilk appear much more moronic than even a semi-intelligent chimpanzee knows they are.

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It is reasonable to assume that Tyson’s intent in even mentioning Faraday’s religious faith was that he was able to leave superstition and fairy tales out of “his science” and use the scientific method, not the bible or god, to make the astounding discoveries the entire world continues benefitting from. Besides, it seems reasonable that an omnipresent, omniscient deity would have included at least a couple of chapters in the scriptures detailing gravitational and quantum theory, astrophysics, or why the Earth’s magnetic field shields the planet from the Sun’s life-ending radiation.

Klinghoffer went so far as accusing Professor Tyson of deliberately going “out of his way, indeed twisting the facts, to depict faith as an obstacle to science. But when acknowledging its vital role in scientific history would be most appropriate, Cosmos invariably falls silent.” Klinghoffer reveals that his ignorance of history is a deep as his ignorance of science because throughout history faith, particularly the Christian faith, has been as vicious an enemy of science and especially those who practiced it as it is today.

If the episode on Faraday sent Klinghoffer into a Mosaic rage, last week’s offering certainly put him over the bible’s mythological “edge of the Earth.” In fact, Klinghoffer wrote that instead of just pausing and skipping over what he claims are “anti-bible” parts of the program so his son he claims is fascinated by the show can watch it without losing his religion, he forbid his son from watching the episode. Klinghoffer previously said he had to explain to his son that Tyson is not doing science, and that “with past installments I had to pause the show to point out to Ezra where host Neil deGrasse Tyson stopped talking about science and switched to baiting Christianity. Episode number 11 of 13 made that procedure impractical and tiresome.” Klinghoffer said he was talking to another creationist cretin and wondered “where, with two episodes left and having dropped the initial pretense of a program on science, the Reverend Dr. Tyson will go from here?”

The program is, and always has been, a science program and Klinghoffer likely lost his biblical mind when, tapping into anthropological science, Tyson explained the origins of civilization and writing in ancient Mesopotamia`(modern day Iraq) and described the Epic of Gilgamesh that either god or Moses, whichever mythological character wrote the story of Noah and the ark, plagiarized the exact same story from a thousand years earlier. The fact that anthropological science proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that a crucial part of the Christian bible is not the original and infallible word of god is likely the ultimate torment to evangelicals like Klinghoffer. In all probability, Klinghoffer’s son will never be exposed to science as long as he lives within his ignorant father’s realm of influence.

Neil deGrasse Tyson has been unwaveringly careful attributing ancient mythos to people who believed thunder was an expression of angry gods and epileptic fits were demonic possession, and has not “baited Christianity” like Klinghoffer asserts. What Klinghoffer is doing with his weekly attacks on Tyson and Cosmos is fear-mongering about the dangers of science via Cosmos because he hates science and knows anything Tyson explains on the program is easily verified; including that god’s word in the bible is fallible and likely plagiarized from earlier civilizations.

Programs like Cosmos, science, and indeed public education mortify evangelical Christians who already believe their children’s belief in superstition and fairy tales will be destroyed if they attend public school or, dog forbid, a non-Christian college or university. There are, like Michael Faraday, scientists who also adhere to a religion, but they are smart enough to leave superstition and mythos outside the lab. They also certainly understand that most of what ancient people needed religious mythology for is meaningless, and frankly ridiculous, in the 21st century. If creationists and their evangelical brethren believe their faith is under attack by science, Cosmos, Neil deGrasse Tyson, or historical facts, it is because they are clinging to ancient mythos befitting Bronze Age humans and they deserve to be metaphorically persecuted for being ridiculously stupid.

24 Replies to “Creationists Respond to Neil deGrasse Tyson and Cosmos With Moronic Babble”

  1. The plagiarized material runs much deeper than just a copied flood story.

    Check out “diabolical mimicry” aka “pre-mimicry.

  2. Science always leaves open the possibility that we could learn more and look at things differently. There are no “facts” in the sense of permanent, unquestionable knowledge. Many people have trouble with that ambiguity and are looking for simple, stable causes for things. They turn to religion.

  3. On top of it all, Dr. Tyson is black, like the President and the Attorney General. Clearly, this is a diabolical plot against Lard-given white privilege!

  4. This is what they want children to understand. There is no science, its all gods magic. The pity of it is children grow up and discover that they have learned complete BS. The fundies think they can prevent that but they cant.

    Cosmos is real. Space and the universe are real. People dont have to live on the opinion of one person that the universe is 6000 years old.

  5. In watching Cosmos, I have been struck by how respectful Tyson is of people’s religious or spiritual beliefs.

    In regard to Faraday, he said Faraday’s Christian faith “remained a source of strength, comfort, and humility for him.” He wasn’t sneering or contemptuous.

    He has spoken respectfully of early people’s efforts to make sense of the world around them with the resources available to them.

    What Tyson does not and will not do is dumb down science or debate science with people who will not debate it on its own merits but only on how it squares with a particular non-science based religious perspective.

    I have seen headlines after various episodes to the effect that Tyson “eviscerated” or “destroyed” creationists or various other religionists, but I have not seen that. He does not seem to be trying to “destroy” religion, but rather to promote science.

    He seems to me to be discussing science. If the science in not in line with certain religious beliefs, that i…

  6. Klinghoffer’s a joke who flings his feces at his betters from behind the protective skirts of EN&V’s no comment policy. As far as I’m concerned, he’s nothing more than a cowardly bully.

  7. The bat screech of the religious right is 400 years old and counting. People need to learn their history of why this country seems to be infected with a particularly virulent form of religious nutjobbery. It’s because this country was populated by Europe’s rejects. They were religious extremists deemed too extreme for the wave of fervour going on at the time. They piled onto the boats with a large flea in their ear and a gigantic “don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out”

    They came over here in a perpetual state of anger and resentment and they’ve been that way since they passed it down like bad genes to their descendants.

  8. If the source of your personal power and authority comes from being an expert on a literally, absolutely word for word true Bible, then anything that casts the least amount of doubt on the absolute truth of that document is like kryptonite to Superman.

  9. Look, when de Grasse revealed that Michael Faraday was a fundamentalist Christian, I just knew that the Christian Right would have fit over this.

    Heaven forbid if Faraday simply doesn’t fit into the Christian Right’s version about what faith in Christianity actually means.

    Cuing Nelson Muntz: Ha-Ha!

  10. It really doesn’t surprise me, there are plenty of people who just reject simple facts, such as the age of the earth and evolution. This way of thinking hurts the economic potential and enlightenment of the region. When people reject science, they reject the construction of newer technology and better infrastructure. People will be electing incompetent people, well, it already happened with Bush. One thing is for sure, I will miss the show. I hope Dr. Tyson continues his show on PBS with Nova or a second season of Cosmos.

  11. There is no law that says that in order for there to be science there can be no God, or if there is God there can be no science.

  12. Love the Pink Floyd comment. I feel truly sorry for the son who is being brainwashed and probably will never recover (pessimist me). Optimist me hope he becomes a great scientist someday and finds a cure to save his ailing Bible-thumping father.

  13. One thing that I have noticed about almost all American Creationist/Christian online sites, is that they all block comment or heavily enforce an echo chamber of their likening. Which says to me, that they know beyond any doubt that their position not only is weak but anyone with a functioning mind will be able to destroy their arguments.

    Heck, even Muslim sites are more open to comment than Christian ones.

  14. I agree with the sentiments of this article and most of the supporting comments. However, I noted a second error by the animated section of this story. The first animation error is in the titles, in which a galaxy is shown rotating BACKWARDS. Look at the spiral arms – they should be trailing, not leading, the rotation direction. The error in this program was depicting the Babylonian ark in what we generally understand to be “ark shape.” No, the ark in the Gilgamesh epic was a perfect cube, which fundamentalists sites love to point out is not sea-worthy. Interestingly, the movie Noah chose a compromise – a rectangular, barge-like ark.

  15. Nefer,Your points are all excellent. One thing I want to point out is that the narrative that Tyson discusses is, in fact, based on the scripts that were written by Ann Druyan (the co-writer of the original Cosmos), the widow of Dr. Sagan,and Steven Soder, another one of the co-writers of the original series. It’s also interesting to note that Dr. Sagan’s name also appears as one of the co-writers.

  16. Sometimes I wished I could have the technology to build a time machine and then take the religious right back to a time where they could be comfortable:MIDDLE AGES!

  17. This is certainly true in a too sizeable number of cases.

    In other cases they came to get away from famines and persecutions as second-class citizens (my Irish ancestors) and continual wars (my German ancestors). Of course, they just walked into a new set of wars.

    Either way, Europe has ended up with much more reasonable people than we have become here in USA.

  18. Unfortunately Rmuse falls makes the same mistake made by so many other science advocates: he treats Creationists as if they are stupid, ignorant, or both.

    I am a very highly educated engineer and an absolute believer in evolution. I’ve have had some pretty lively debates with many Creationists and very few of them have been either stupid or ignorant.

    I know PhD mathematicians and engineers who are ardent creationists. Creationists with technical Masters degrees are common.

    Calling people such as these and their “ilk” things such as “moronic,” “ridiculously stupid,” and “semi-intelligent chimpanzee” does nothing to advance the cause of evolution. On the contrary it sets Creationists even more firmly against it. Some of my opponents have said exactly this: evolutionist use ad hominem arguments because they have no substantive ones.

    Calling people names gets us nowhere. It makes us look mean-spirited and vindictive. Stop it.

  19. Being intelligent doesnt always make you smart enough to see.

    Being a creationist in the year 2014 is pretty much being stupid, ignorant or both. Or, they think they will share in the power that some fundie church will get

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