Manosphere Site Warns More People Will Die Unless Women Give Men Sexual Options

RooshI wrote yesterday that “Only one political ideology in America is teaching young American men that women owe them something, and that is conservatism.”

What do I find later that day, but a rant by a fellow named Roosh, on so-called “manosphere” site Return of Kings. Roosh, also the author of “The Time is Right for Traditional Sex Roles to Return,” says that women owe men sex, and says that if women don’t start giving men what they want, there will be more Elliot Rodgerses.

And of course, it’s all the fault of “the American media and blogosphere, men’s rights activists, “PUA haters”, and progressive organizations like the Southern Poverty Law Center“:

Six lives would have been saved if there was a societal mechanism to steer sexually frustrated males like Rodger into learning self-improvement, game, and masculinity, the very values that are taught here and on many other manosphere sites that inexplicably have been attacked, disparaged, and even sought for eradication by the American media and blogosphere, men’s rights activists, “PUA haters”, and progressive organizations like the Southern Poverty Law Center. All these groups are complicit for creating a cultural environment that allowed this massacre to occur. It is them who must accept responsibility for these seven deaths and make the moral change to their ideologies in order to prevent such an act from happening again.

In case you’re wondering, “game” is the art of seduction.


We live in a society where being shy, normal, or a little awkward is duly punished by entitled American women who have been encouraged to pursue exciting and fun casual sex in their prime with sexy and hot men as a way of ‘experimentation.’

So, assuming what the author says is true, entitled American women have an obligation instead to have sex with shy, normal, or awkward guys instead of the guys they want to have sex with.

And here I thought women had a right to have sex with partners they chose, rather than donating their bodies for what amounts to pity parties for guys who can’t get a date, and who are held back from sex on demand by anti-male rape codes:

Rodger should have checked his male privilege at the door and atoned for the sins of thousands of years of “male patriarchy.” He was likely exposed to infantile “trigger warnings” during the course of his education. He received direct propaganda that insinuates all men are potential rapists. American universities are becoming firmly anti-male with their extreme left ideology and policies. Just recently, the Justice Department has ushered in directives that attempt to restrict the definition of consensual sex, making any attempt by Rodger to fornicate with a female at a college party a potential rape encounter that would have gotten him kicked out of school without a trial. Pro-female policies now dominate most American universities. Rodger would definitely not have received a sympathetic ear to his plight.

Poor can’t get any mass murderer Elliot Rodgers was held back by his university, which apparently catered too much to the concerns of co-eds who preferred not to be raped by men who figured whatever woman catches their eye owes them sex. In fact, universities seem to be doing too little, rather than too much, to prevent rape.

We learn that women “seek out bad boys while rejecting the nice guy who is ‘boring.'”

This behavior continues until they find that they are past their physical prime, whereby the nice guy is plucked from a spartan sexual existence and expected to keep his mouth shut when a trickle flow of informational torture reveals that his bride-to-be has experienced more than a dozen different penises in her vagina, anus, and mouth—the same mouth that is supposed to kiss his future children good night.

But, of course, it is alright if the father has had his penis in a dozen different women before marriage – and whether the women wanted it there or not.

This is a strange – and creepy – sort of world, the “manosphere.”

The author asks,

What options does a man like Rodger have if his existing social ability is simply not able to attract the women he wants? What should he do to enter a relationship with a reasonably attractive girl who has not yet had dozens of penises inside her, who is sweet and kind instead of bitter and jaded from becoming a professional attention whore on Facebook, Tinder, and OK Cupid via the iPhone that she’s addicted to?

Again the obsession with “dozens of penises.”

The price women will pay for giving some men a place for their penises and other men none, is death:

Until you give men like Rodger a way to have sex, either by encouraging him to learn game, seek out a Thai wife, or engage in legalized prostitution—three things that the American media and cultural elite venomously attack, it’s inevitable for another massacre to occur. Even game itself, as useful as it is on a individual level, is a band-aid fix upon a culture which has stopped rewarding nice guys while encouraging female whoring to benefit only the top 10% of alpha males, all in the name of societal progress.

It’s sex or else, ladies. That’s how manly the manosphere is, which is to say, not very manly at all. You know, I’m going to go out on a limb here and suggest that it’s just possible that what women want are guys who don’t plan to rape them if they don’t give them the use of their vaginas:

Game is a tiny release valve on a cultural pressure cooker where meaningful relationships have become sick, fractured, and unfulfilling compared to the time of our grandparents when traditional sex roles existed. Game may not have led Rodger to find his dream girl and live happily ever after, but it would have given enough results to stop him from killing six innocent individuals and himself. Until you allow and encourage all men to get sex by some means, these massacres will be more commonplace as America’s cultural decline continues.

The idea that evil is to be defined as women having had a “dozen penises” in their vagina, but “the good” is defined by being one of the dozen men who have had their penis in her vagina, is almost too absurd to deserve comment.

The only thing I can reasonably conclude from this excretory pabulum is that the philosophy behind it is that a whore is to be defined as a woman who will have sex with somebody else, but not with you, and that by virtue of the fact that she won’t let you put your penis in her to satisfy your male urges, she must, also by definition, have allowed at least a dozen other men to do so.

This is a pathetic excuse for thinking. It is no wonder that that people who think this way kill women for failing to have sex with them. It’s only a shame men like this don’t turn their rage against women inward instead.

Of course, context is everything, and if you’re ready at this point to pull your hair out I give you this:

According to another fellow who says he is opposed to feminism but now also to the manosphere, and, apparently, to Roosh in particular,

Roosh is a Turkish guy raised in the US who never experienced success with women growing up. After finishing college and getting a job he lived a sexually frustrating life that resulted in no success with women. One day he quit his job and became a writer, starting his own blog in the process.

This critic has some advice for those who, in their frustration, turn to the manosphere for advice:

I can say with confidence that Roosh is the last man on earth you would want to seek dating advice from. The Manosphere is a movement which started to prepare men for the evils of feminism by giving them “game” advice. Not a bad start except it is the classical example of the Blind leading the Blind. Majority of the writers (I am going to say all) who write for the Manosphere are the kind of men women usually put into the “Creepy” category and do not want a thing to do with. Most of these men would be lucky to get their hands on an average looking woman but they write on their blogs about how models are going crazy for them.

Look, here’s the thing: America is the land of opportunity (admittedly less of late). It is not the land of free vaginas for those who want them. And not getting vagina on demand is no excuse for rape, no excuse for calling the women who do not provide those vaginas “whores” and no excuse for some of the most pathetic attempts at thinking I have ever, in my 57 years, ever witnessed.

I cannot find words for the disappointment and shame I feel for men who can express themselves in these ways. I can only say that some of us men trust women, and we can only apologize for the troglodytes you run into in your search for sane men, and assure you that we are doing the best we can to reach even the hopelessly benighted on the manosphere.

50 Replies to “Manosphere Site Warns More People Will Die Unless Women Give Men Sexual Options”

  1. But, but, if I have to allow sex with any “nice” guy that demands it, how can I then be the woman that has not had any men for the next “nice” guy that demands it?

  2. Let me see if I understand this. The guys want hot sexy girls to want them, but they don’t want hot sexy girls to have sex with anyone else? They want ‘nice girls’ who have not had sex, just like these guys, but they want sexy experienced girls to want them? Then if they dated the girl of their dreams, they would kill them for having sex with other people first? And this is the fault of liberals? I give up. If a guy wants a ‘nice girl,’ then he should be a nice guy, get an education, and marry a quiver girl. Or try being a nice guy, don’t buy a gun, don’t threaten people, and get over himself. My husband was a shy guy that I chose in high school because he was smart and funny as well as shy. We did not have sex until we married after getting our degrees at a state school. I’m sure people had sex. We chose not to. God, the arrogance of this guy to blame WOMEN for his lack of partners, and then to threaten women with death because it’s their fault he’s stupid? Sounds like a Rep…

  3. Me thinks he has a problem and should be seeking help. On second thought, he should be in the loonie bin.

  4. Please God don’t let this loser near a gun. Wonder if he ever considered the reason he can’t get a woman is that he is a whiny pathetic loser?

  5. Return of Kings is an absurd fanboy site for guys who don’t understand how the real world works. They yearn for a time that never was. Read another article on that Return Of Kings site “What liberals don’t understand about angry white men” the author admits that he come from a rural area and says this:

    “Rural America is psychologically healthier precisely because the omnipresent eye of mass media, marketing and access to technology and public works is greatly diminished. As such, people learn to depend on one another. That is much more healthy then the urban mindset of slavish dependence on corporations and the state.”

    Right. That’s why I ran screaming from there as soon as I had a chance to, and so does anybody else with brains and ambition. Rural areas are devoid of bright young people & remaining people’s attitudes become quite ossified. He calls any idea he doesn’t agree with “queer”

    Really enlightened.

  6. Note to Roosh: I don’t ‘owe’ you one damn thing; you gotta earn it. And I create the pay scale.

  7. Really, that hairy piece of Eurotrash-looking crap with the misaligned eyes claims to be a pickup artist? I GUARANTEE you 100% that “RooshV” has never known the touch of a woman. I bet he smells like Eurotrash too.

  8. They all seem to be squawking that they are “nice” guys blah, blah, blah.

    Sadly, it is clear from their stated views that they are angry, whiny, resentful losers with no ability at all to honestly assess themselves and what they bring to the table. They are not “nice” guys at all.

  9. No different in my book than men who want experienced girls to teach them the ropes but only virgins are marriage material. I know plenty of those!

  10. Why do these guys want us so bad if they hate liberals. I wouldn’t want to have sex with someone that has such twisted ideas. They must have very low IQs most who hate and are quick to anger do. Of course there are some book smart ones that are like that but for the most part all around stupid seem to be the worst. The Tea Party crowd has put their selves on public display to prove that.

  11. I remember a friend in college who went on to get married and had a son and two daughters. She told me once she would just die if her girls weren’t virgins on their wedding day but hope her son got lots of experience.

  12. Well can only say one thing to these “men” (use the term loosely! whereas knuckle dragging psudo-apes is a more actuate term but I’m trying to be a gentleman here!):

    You’ve got a sock drawer, your hand and loads of internet sites to choose from!

    Leave women alone to go out with nice normal guys OK?


    The actual nice guys who always treat a lady correctly with dignity and respect.

  13. Hey Man, we aren’t gonna play your fucking game of dodge the bullet! Your meaness, your threats are losing hearts every second you speak. Women learned to stay away from creeps like you. Turn that hate to your mean ass self. You don’t get to tell women who to have sex with, and you never control women.

    You need to check in with the doctor about that fucked up emotional behavior and verbal abuse that you spew. You are NOT a picture of good health. You are dirty, and dirty sex is all you want.

  14. The dudes at Manosphere sound like porno addicts. They think the porn they see and read is real life. They don’t understand why their life is not like a porno movie. These guys are not living in reality and need serious help for their porn addictions. Despite the messages they are getting from their loser friends with porn addictions Men will not die or suffer any harm if they live their whole life never having had sex. Their ideas about “needing” sex comes from propaganda spewed in our world ruled by patriarchy. Women are human beings and they do not owe sex to anyone ANYONE. Men need to live in REALITY, not fixate on their adolescent WET DREAMS. Jesus H Christ!

  15. What a twisted sense of values. use and dirty as many girls(women) you want but make sure you bring home a virgin? What a good Mother!!! I wouldn’t want her son around my Daughter.

  16. I can say I’ve known a lot of women like that, and they never live up to the code they want to impose on their own children. Two of them were dangerously close to me. I can’t describe how much I despise women like that.

  17. Why is it that losers like this always blame others for their failures? Always some else’s fault that they are pathetic.

    I realize that our civilization seems to be devolving but what’s next? Perhaps beating the women in the head with a club and dragging them into the cave.

  18. It appears to many that these so-called “nice guys” frequenting and writing at the site “manosphere” are the same type of narcissistic sociopath-psychopath as Rodgers. You can’t help sociopaths as they have no conscience. Who would ever be attracted to this type of man? When a woman picks up on their weirdness vibes, it for their own safety. Let these men draw their own “slow hand” and be satisfied.

  19. I married later in life (I was 36) to woman who was 9 years older than me. She’s not a super model. Neither am I. But we love each other, and we have fun together. I will never understand the male obsession with virginity or looks. In the end, all that crap is perishable. After the first time, nobody is a virgin. Looks fade with age. In the end, it is the personality and all of the non-physical stuff that endures into old age. By the time I met my wife, I was not looking for looks. I was looking for person who’s crazy meshed well with my own. lol

  20. I add to my comment above ~ These guys are NARCISSISTIC MISANTHROPIC SOCIOPATHS. You cannot cure a sociopath because they do not have the ability to empathize with others OR believe there is anything wrong with them. It is always everyone else’s fault. Narcissists refuse to acknowledge their own faults and they perceive themselves as being perfect. Other people only exist to give them Narcissistic Supply. When people do not give the Narcissist attention and adoration, they get evil.

  21. This is NOT a “Game”.

    It’s ALL about Building a Relationship.

    A Relationship that RESPECTS what the OTHER PERSON wants.

    Building that Relationship takes WORK.

    You can only Get out as much as you GIVE.
    It’s called KARMA.

    If you want to BLAME someone because you think that you Life Sucks, Stand in front of a MIRROR for a few Hours.

  22. if they just want sex, and women who will tell them how wonderful they are, they are the biggest they have ever had, then I suggest they dial 1-866-467-377-87 (horesrus), and make sure they have $$$


  24. I hesitate commenting by using an illustration of my daughter’s living arrangements…

    She has 2 “pets”; one is an 80 lb dog and the other a large “bird” capable of mimicking sounds…When the dog hears an order in Pashto, it is on alert and knows where to stand “on-point” beside one of the doors. When/if the bird hears a second “order”, it barks like a dog…

    (occasionally, the bird is unreliable after a barking tirade and ask for a treat. I pity the fool who falls for that one…unless of course the fool is Pimp Daddy O’Keefe; he’s welcome any-nee-time!).

    Enough said…

    It’s a sad statement that I have to go there. Beautiful women with military training who been around the “dangers” of the real world know the reality of oppressed/abused women on a global scale. It’s not a joke, a movie or some kind paranoia; it’s routine security as a fact of life.

  25. It sounds like he is making threats against women.. Should he not be under an arrest before someone else gets hurt.. Women hating men do not need Guns period.. Amendment rights be damned

  26. So he is saying women MUST give anyone who wants it sex???? Then they MUST be pure before they give sex???? Earth to idiot, you cannot have it BOTH ways. Why should one have to give someone sex just to keep from getting killed???? Take that gun and blow off your problem down below fool..

  27. All I have to say to this guy and all others like him is: GFY!!! No body owes you anything, and because you’re nice doesn’t mean you’re not an asshole, asshole. You might want to reflect on your being and figure out why you hate yourself and blaming women for your sexual woes and what not. Look in the mirror and you will find it all starts with YOU!!! Dickhead!!! I digress but this just infuriates me to no ends. Get over yourself already.

  28. If central casting were asked for an antagonist in a truly cheap and meritless horror movie…well, you know, him.

  29. The contradictions in MRA/ROK psychology:

    They claim women are:
    In control of the world

    They claim women are
    Easily manipulated
    By nature submissive
    “like to bake and get slammed from behind” (an actual quote from one of Roosh’s adherents)

    They claim:
    Women use and game them.

    They claim:
    The only approach to a woman is to use them and game her.

    They demand avoidance of all men who are in healthy relationships because their advice is flawed.

    So. On the one hand, they claim women are ruling the universe. Then they say, women aren’t capable of ruling.

    These “men” haven’t examined how their views don’t add up, how every single view they have cancels out every other view they have.

    I can only conclude that these bozos, for whatever reason, are still stuck at two screaming NO at mommy in the supermarket because she won’t buy the candybar.

  30. I think the problem with this type of person is that their ideas are so ingrained, nothing short of a bazooka will shift it. Just take away all their dangerous toys and let them play in a secure environment.

  31. It sounds to me as if they seek equality.

    This seems an extremely liberal ideology to me that would find a man thinking that he is entitled to sex.


    It’s almost logical in a sick way.

    If women are entitled to equal rights, why would men not be entitled to equal rights.


    Equal access to vaginas for the poor, the ugly, the bitter, the nerdy, the idiotic, the moronic, the vertically challenged, the “phallically” challenged and all of the rest of the “challenged” of America.

    These men need love and sex, too. Why would an equality minded women not give equal access to her vagina.


  32. I had the misfortune of stumbling upon this manosphere site several weeks ago, so when I came to Politicus USA and see a piece on it, I flipped out.

    It was clear to me that the blogger and his audience were men who would never be able to get women (regardless of whether its 2014, 1960, 1980 or the 19th century).

    Yes, there are times when us women can be difficult for men to figure out and many times, we feel the same about you. However, the differences can be worked out. Lots of women enjoy sex, but that doesn’t mean we are sex objects. And the idiots at “Return of the Kings” just don’t understand that. They understand this a lot less than the “playa” with dozens of girlfriends.

    And just as so many others here have said, where do these guys expect to find virginal women who are sexually experienced and willing to give them sex on demand? Especially in this day and age.

  33. Sorry, but Eurotrash have higher standards than this jerk and can still get women.

    This guy would like to blame feminism and the modern age for his problems, but even if this was the 1950s (instead of the 2010s), he’d still be lonely and frustrated. He would still be home on a Saturday night developing callouses on his “good” hand.

  34. I recall a co-worker stating something similar ie she would prefer if her sons got raped rather than her daughter. She had two sons and one daughter, I give her shite for her disgusting remarks and her stupidity. Yeah, she really wasn’t that bright. One wonders at what goes on in some people’s mind.

  35. Sane women do not want anything to do with men who view women solely as sex toys. Real men do not view women solely as sex toys.

  36. Fifty years ago, this type of “creepy white boy” would have eased his sexual frustration simply by raping black girls with impunity.

  37. Wow, the amount of virginshaming in this article is ridiculous. This is the exact kind of bullying atmosphere that creates the social ostracism and psychological anguish that breeds this specific kind of violence in the first place. I bet you sat around the lunch table in high school saying the same things, mocking people for “not getting any”, or “looking weird”, or “being mentally disabled”. Its not cute. Its not funny. Its a form of deliberate oppression and shaming. Stop blaming victims of prejudice.

  38. “So, assuming what the author says is true, entitled American women have an obligation instead to have sex with shy, normal, or awkward guys instead of the guys they want to have sex with.

    And here I thought women had a right to have sex with partners they chose”

    Youre missing the point: you only “choose” what the media has indoctrinated you to want. You only think that “Nice Guys” are “creepy” for the same reason these men think fat women and small breasts are “ugly”. Its amazing that you somehow think women are immune to advertising and cultural indoctrination. Or that the media doesnt promote unrealistic male standards.

  39. “The only thing I can reasonably conclude from this excretory pabulum is that the philosophy behind it is that a whore is to be defined as a woman who will have sex with somebody else, but not with you”

    How is that any different from the definition of a “Player”, which is defined as a man who will have sex with other women, but not with you? Or a “superficial asshole”, which is defined as a man who will have sex with attractive, in-shape models, but not with mousy, overweight shut-in Feminist cat ladies?

    Are we really supposed to believe that the internalized prejudices of women have literally ZERO negative social effects? How many women do you know that would refuse to have sex with a man, just because of the color of his skin, rather than the actual content of his character? A LOT

  40. “You know, I’m going to go out on a limb here and suggest that it’s just possible that what women want are guys who don’t plan to rape them if they don’t give them the use of their vaginas”

    Well the statistical prevalence of domestic violence and marriage rape in this country would seem to prove that the kind of men that women say they “want” and the kind of men that women actively CHOOSE are frequently two entirely different things.

    Lets be honest here: the most socially successful men are always simply the ones most adept at tricking and manipulating women into being with them. Whereas ones that refuse to lie, deceive, or manipulate will always be at a competitive disadvantage. Lies are to sex and dating what steroids are to sports. As long as lying is the accepted norm, honest men cant win.

  41. You missed so many valid points in his blog it’s not even funny.

    There is empirical evidence learning self-improvement and game will make you more successful with women. Game is just taking into consideration psychology of women, which might seem illogical and retarded to many people, including women. They rarely think why they act certain way.

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