Lesbian Student Not Forgiven as Jesus Demands, but Expelled from Christian University

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Christian_MinardDo you know the one about the conservative Christian who forgave his enemies? Or anyone, for that matter? No, I don’t either, for the simple reason that to the best of my knowledge, no such event has ever taken place. Perhaps in all of recorded history.

Case in point:

Christian Minard, 22, a lesbian student at Southwestern Christian University, a school, we are informed by Christian News, “affiliated with the International Pentecostal Holiness Church in Bethany, Okla[homa]” was expelled one semester short of graduation, for marrying her partner, Kadyn Parks in Albuquerque, N.M., on March 17 of this year.

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There is freedom of religion in Albuquerque, if not at Southwestern Christian University, where Minard had to sign a “lifestyle covenant” prohibiting “homosexual behavior.”

According to the report,

On Wednesday (July 9), a letter addressed to Minard from Brad Davis, the school’s vice president of student life, arrived at her parents’ home, telling her she was being expelled.

“Why” this happened is probably not a question we really have to wonder at, but for the record, Brad Davis explained to the young woman,

I was informed that you recently married someone of the same sex and saw a few pictures from Facebook. Of course, this is opposing to our view as an International Pentecostal Holiness denominational university as well as the Lifestyle Covenant that all students must agree and sign.

Yes, churches and religious organizations really do expect to have the right to tell you how to live your life, to control and mandate what activities you engage in outside the classroom, or the workplace, on the street, or in a store, or anywhere else, for that matter.

These are all symptoms of a disease called “theocracy.” This is something the Taliban does, something for which they are excoriated by the Religious Right’s Talibangelicals while busily doing the same thing at every opportunity. Because theocracy is theocracy, whatever its religion. There is no essential difference in worldview between an Islamist and a Christianist.

One could reasonably expect a self-identified Christian to identify with the words of Jesus of Nazareth, since, after all, their religion is based on Jesus’ life and teachings. This is the same Jesus, by the way, who was quite big on the whole forgiveness thing.

It was Jesus who said that if somebody took your coat from you, to give them also your cloak (Matthew 5:40; Luke 6:29), a sort of ancient BOGO. Theft is a violation of the Ten Commandments. You know, “Thou shall not steal.”

Marrying your same-sex partner is not.

Remember too, that Jesus hung out with all the low-lifes of his time, prostitutes, tax collectors and the like. The people respectable Jews kept at arm’s length. Jesus, unlike Southwestern Christian University, didn’t expel them. He welcomed them. He showed them love. And forgiveness.

But then these conservative so-called Christians really don’t care what Jesus said or did, and so such expectations would be misguided, as the following tweet makes clear:

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Really…Christians do not have to be tolerable of sin?

This is possibly another case of fake Christians having a special Bible they’re not sharing with the rest of us. There seems to be a lot of that going around.

Then again, it could be they just don’t open their Bibles.

So let me try:

Do you remember the Lord’s Prayer (Matthew 6:9-13; Luke 11:2-4)? The versions differ by denomination but in general, they all come down to the same thing: forgiveness.

Forgive us our trespasses/sins,” Jesus said, “as we forgive those who trespass/sin against us.

Pretty neat concept. It sounds like a very tolerant attitude.

Not one orthodox Christianity has ever taken seriously, mind you. No more than it has some of Jesus’ other inconvenient injunctions, such as “turn the other cheek” (Matthew 5:39) and “love your enemies” (Matthew 5:44) and “let he who is without sin cast the first stone” (John 8:7).

People like the authorities at the school (and the tweeter above) seem always willing to cast the first stone. What is interesting is that in its Articles of Faith, the school claims that it believes “In the verbal inspiration of the Bible.”

Which parts, if not these?

These words of Jesus are all part of what Thomas Jefferson thought of as the sublime moral teachings of the man from Nazareth. All ignored by the Religious Right in favor of Old Testament fire and brimstone (selectively misquoted), and all the New Testament’s mystical stuff (including the virgin birth, Jesus’ miracles and resurrection) that Jefferson disdained as a “dunghill.”

We have anti-Jewish pogroms, the forced conversion of polytheists the world over, the Crusades both in the Middle East and in Eastern Europe, and of course, the Inquisition, and religious wars galore, as stark reminders of just how seriously organized Christianity has taken Jesus’ instructions.

For her part, Minard doesn’t feel severed from Jesus. She says a strong faith in God. And believes “you can still have faith in God and live a gay lifestyle.” Since Jesus did not say he was dying for some and not for others, this is a perfectly reasonable assumption. One of the tenets of Christianity is, after all, that Jesus died for our sins, and the university claims it agrees.

Ironically, one of the university’s three core values is “building a Christ-centered community.” Keep in mind Jesus lived 2000 years ago and the concept of “homosexuality” has been with us for only a little over a century and that Jesus himself said nothing at all about homosexuality or lesbianism.

Given how little in evidence are Jesus and his values, we would be within our rights to ask if Jesus is just a name fake Christians use to feel more Christian.

Thomas Jefferson himself said that, “He [Jesus] has been enveloped by jugglers to make money of Him” (which certainly seems to be the case here) and that “they have dressed [Him] up in the rags of an imposter.”

To anyone who has read the gospels, as did Thomas Jefferson, Southwestern Christian University would seem to fall into this category, because stoning people, literally or figuratively, just doesn’t seem to be Jesus’ style. Forgiving them does.

35 Replies to “Lesbian Student Not Forgiven as Jesus Demands, but Expelled from Christian University”

  1. The problem with the Christian Doctrine is they have too many members who are “Christians in name only.” I give you the Golden Rule and President Obama. You can figure out the rest of this story! Because if we all meet Jesus in the afterlife, he will explain it personally. I think they call it “Judgment Day!”

  2. You as the perverts, made the same mistske. A Christian organization or school can have a covenant. And expect others to abide by this. Has been going on since time , and legally too.
    The perverts feel they can honestly serve God and continue in what God calls perversion. Not My feelings, Not Your feelings, But God’s Word says NO !
    WHy ask for forgiveness when we continue in a abnormal lifestyle ? Not my words , again it is God’s Words.
    Find it in the Bible , we cannot pick and choose our lifestyle and expect God to approve

  3. ” I give you the Golden Rule and President Obama.” President Obama probably follows the Golden Rule better than most who condemn him.

  4. Right wing “Christian values” are about valuing their own values, condemning others’ values, and ignoring Christ’s values as depicted in the gospels.

  5. Although I don’t agree with this college and their so-called Christian values, she did sign an agreement and she broke it. So it sounds like the college had a right to expel her. Stupid and wrong, yes. But she knew better.

  6. I find it is futile to try to reconcile what Jesus said and what Christians do. Many Christians use Jesus and the bible to justify their own prejudices. And this college expelling the student is the modern day version of the Catholic church excommunicating anyone who questions their authority.

  7. No. You can not! Such an exclusion is anathema to everything Jesus said while he was alive, and an evil violation of the reason for his sacrifice. You can have any such covenant you want if you want to be a faith unto yourself. You can not transfer your judgemental despite of others to Christ and expect to go unchallenged. If your interpretation of “Heaven” were correct, it would be a “Christian’s” version of hell.

  8. So called christians drive people away from their faith! Most are repelled by the complete hypocrisy of the so called, faithful!

  9. Has anyone ever challenged these type of expulsions by invoking Title IX?
    No person in the United States shall, on the basis of sex, be excluded from
    participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under
    any education program or activity receiving Federal financial assistance.

    It seems denying choice of marital partner based upon one’s sex violates Title IX.

  10. Did I read this report correctly?She SIGNED a church or school covenant and proceeded to attend the school? Who is the crazy one in all this?

  11. As a Pentecostal I am Praising The Lord this Pentecostal collage is standing up for God. Jesus is not going to forgive them for living in sin. Any Church or Christian Collage has the right to expel anyone for living in sin as it goes against God & the Bible.

  12. You’re another false christian – a member of the American Taliban. You discard all of Jesus’s admonitions, you don’t even try to use his words because he never spoke a word about homosexuality, he spoke about love & forgiveness and not judging.

    He DID supposedly die for our sins, not just for YOUR sins which are many. He was all about love. You are all about hate. I’d hate to be in your shoes trying to justify your words & actions on Judgement Day.

  13. Nice you claim to speak for Jesus while you also seem to believe the Bible is the inerrant word of God.

    Jesus NEVER said a word about homosexuality, guess you missed that. You also missed the part where he preached, non-judgement, forgiving anyone who harmed you, and most of all love for all. Remember the Golden Rule? Did you skip over all that or are just choosing to ignore it?

    You are a classic example of the thinking of extremists who drive people to run screaming away from churches. Congratulations!

  14. Two points: Firstly, having been raised in a ‘Pentecostal Holiness’ background myself, I’m quite familiar with what is and is not viewed as morally acceptable in that tradition. Presumably, this young woman was likewise familiar with accepted Pentecostal moral teaching (she did sign the ‘Lifestyle Covenant’ afterall), so why go to a university which explicitly opposes your own worldview?

    Secondly, to classify this as a step toward ‘theocracy’ is ludicrous. If this were a public, secular university, the author might have a point. This is a Pentecostal college, however, and as such they have the right to make whatever requirements they see their religious views as mandating.

    At the end of the day, go to another college… it’s not a big deal.

  15. I agree with you 100%. She knew this was not allowed when she signed up to attend the “school”. As odious as this rule is – and it is awful – she agreed to it.

    Could she not have waited a few months til she graduated to have her wedding?

  16. So, you get to grab on to the grace the Lord gave us all, but you don’t want to extend it to others? Bottom line, the Lord looks at the heart… even this young woman’s, within which He has found His own reflection. Let her walk with Him the best she knows how and don’t hinder her by telling her it..or she…is not good enough.

  17. She doesn’t need to be forgiven. She’s done nothing wrong. Jesus demanded we forgive those who’ve committed an offense or wronged us. She’s committed no offense. The bigots need to be forgiven. Were I in her position, I would write a letter to the editor of every major publication forgiving this school for their bigotry and unChristian behavior, then move on with my life proving them wrong with my happiness. :-)

  18. If someone signs a contract/agreement with an organization then that organization has the right to enforce the terms of the agreement. pretty simple…

  19. Crass move on the part of the school, they could just let her graduate and be done with the whole thing’
    Having said that, the thing to have done IMO, was to walk out of that place the minute I was told I had to sign that “covenant”. (sounds like some type of cult thing to me, just saying) Maybe she had a good reason for going there anyway, we don’t know.

  20. We do know, she signed because its REQUIRED to go there and she wanted to accept the copious amounts of scholarship monies allotted to her. By her own accord she says she lied in signing the agreement, and could only justify it with “well others broke the rules as well”

    It’s sheerly a money or attention grab of sorts as she had been at SWCU for years already and full well knew the outcome of this. Had her education been truly of importance she would have postponed the big day 2 months and finished or used SWCU online course offerings to finish.

  21. Title IX is based upon SEX – Not sexual preferences. She was not discriminated upon based upon sex as SCU has a vast wealth of females/female based sports.

    “No person in the United States shall, on the basis of sex”

  22. So for an organization so hung up on the gay, why didn’t they kick her out sooner? What their gaydar was down or what?

  23. God’s word? Or the word of someone claiming to speak for God? Why is it some Christians claim the Bible is the Word of God when it was written by men?

  24. This article is ridiculous. A university is a voluntary community admittance to which is contingent upon abiding by the rules that govern the community. Ms. Minard knows the rules and agreed to abide by them. And then she flouted the rules that she had previously voluntarily agreed to abide by. So she gets the boot. Is that a surprise? What should she get instead–a prize? Is she special? Is she supposed to be an exception? Does giving and keeping her word mean anything to her? If Ms. Minard found the university’s policy on homosexuality intolerable, what’s she doing there in the first place and why did she freely consent to honor that policy? There’s an integrity problem here–and it’s not with the university. Ms. Minard is not a victim of anything.

  25. Forgiveness does not mean that you’re allowed to do whatever you want, just that you’re allowed a new beginning to shape up, and Jesus specifically told his disciples in Matthew 18 to first come to the person in private, then if they will not change their ways with two or three other friends, then before the whole congregation, and at that point, to “let them be like a whore or tax collector to you”. If you do not repent, which means more then anything else growing and changing your ways, than you don’t even really want to be forgiven.

    My guess is the university did exactly that, which is why she was only one semester shy of graduation when they finally told her to take a hike – the whole process of trying to get her to come back to God probably took a semester, or two, or maybe even three.

  26. What no one seems to acknowledge is that many people do not quite know they are gay, or struggle with the issue and even pray that the Lord will save them from this terrible life of sin. Eventually they find out that that is not the reality. This is called coming out. I’m sure the girl didn’t think of yourself as a lesbian when she went to the school. Unfortunately, she fell in love.

  27. Religious people are weak as far as I am concerned especially Christians. Religious people live in fear constantly. Everything they do is out of fear of condemnation. They go around with a fake smile judging others like their crap doesn’t stink too. Religion has held back the human race far too long, as has conservatism. Just imagine if every human being all at once lost their fear of some fairy in the sky how much farther could humankind advance? Remember what the great FDR sais about fear? Hold his words to your reality!

  28. Why is it that you religious reich morons cannot spell or even learn to use a spell checker? Perhaps it’s because you are too concerned with spreading your intolerant, evil ideas to be bothered learning anything else.

    As always, you are judgmental, unforgiving, and willfully ignorant.

    Most of the problems of the world have been caused by religion. Think of the crusades, the inquisition, the dark ages, the witch burnings, the restrictions on learning, free speech, instilling guilt and shame into children, and the wars fought in the name of religion.

    More recently, think of family planning clinic bombings, oppression of gays and non-believers, murders of doctors and homosexuals, imposition of religious beliefs by force of law, and illegal use of public funds to promote particular religions.

    Mankind will never truly be free until the black yoke of religion is lifted by the clear light of truth and rational thinking.

  29. Great article!

    We are ALL children of God who is Father-Mother of us all — this means that we are all brothers and sisters! We are ALL made in the image of God. Each one has a spark of the divine within.

    Homosexuality is genetic, not chosen by a person as a “way of life.”

    It’s about time after all these centuries of painful, torturous, lying mistreatment by EVERY RELIGION, especially by pseudo-Christians (CINO-Christian in Name Only), everyone must be treated equally – as Jesus demands of his followers.

    Doesn’t the Lord’s Prayer begin “Our Father…”? God has no grandchildren!

  30. Fine, upstanding Xtians never consider this: According to scriptures, Jesus wandered around Galilee three years, accompanied by twelve men. No wives. No concubines. No girlfriends. How many groups of thirteen men, constantly on the road, do not get horny in a given three-year span of time? I’m betting some of them were inescapably gay. Then, at the Last Supper, Jesus told them, “Love ye, one another, even as I have loved you.” And he didn’t say HOW he loved them, did he? Not gay? Prove it! Which lends the lie to all this anti-gay Xtian bullcrap.

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