Surprise! Bryan Fischer is in Theological Accord with Iraq’s ISIL

Fischer_ISIL_AccordIf you believe our Religious Right is any different, philosophically, than Iraq’s Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, or ISIL (often called ISIS), then you are wrong. They have more in common than a simple desire to cloak their thuggery in divine sanction.

Bryan Fischer, the American Family Association’s director of issues analysis, in a self-styled “moment of theological accord” agrees with ISIL that the Yazidis, a religious minority now facing genocide, are Satanists.

And, of course, Fischer is outraged that President Obama would intervene in Iraq to protect a bunch of devil worshipers, saying on his show Focal Point,

They go after devil worshipers and all of the sudden the entire weight of the United States government is sent in there to relieve them and to avenge them.

Not true, of course. A few fighter planes do not represent the full weight of the United States government. Fischer also says that “while Christians were under attack…nothing from this White House.”

He went on to claim in a column yesterday,

The city of Mosul, long a haven for Christ-followers, has been emptied of Christians who were ordered by the armies of Allah to convert, submit or die. All 45 Christian structures in the city have been seized and converted to Muslim use. Obama yawns.

Wait a minute! Wasn’t it Bryan Fischer himself who said that Muslims are parasites who must convert or die? Why yes it was!

Yes, Bryan Fischer is SO in theological accord with ISIL.

Watch him on Focal Point courtesy of Right Wing Watch:

President Obama now has decided to go back into Iraq, and it’s because ISIS, the Muslim militants, are slaughtering devil worshipers. So President Obama…bringing the full weight of the American into Iraq, now, after months and months and months of begging from the Iraqi government, now he’s going in there because devil worshipers are under attack.

What Fischer ignores in his tirade are the facts. As the Christian Science Monitor points out, the Yazidis are not, in fact, devil worshipers:

Ethnically Kurds, the Yazidis’ faith combines elements of Zoroastrianism from ancient Persia, Sufi Islam, Judaism and Christianity along with beliefs from ancient Mesopotamia. It’s a closed and still secretive religion – members have to be born into the faith and cannot marry outside of it.

Yazidis believe that God entrusted the world to seven angels – the chief angel known in earthly form as the peacock angel who refused to bow down before Adam. While Yazidis see it as proof of his devotion to God, the narrative’s parallels with the fallen angel have led some Muslims to accuse them of devil worship.

Fischer, writing in his column yesterday, tells us:

In a rare point of theological accord, both Muslims and Christians agree that the archangel revered by the Yazidis is in fact the Prince of Darkness. The New Testament describes him this way, “Satan (who) disguises himself as an angel of light” (2 Cor. 11:14), eager to deceive the gullible into believing that he is good rather than evil. The Yazidis have fallen for his lies.

There is certainly an attempt here to deceive he gullible.

This is bad theology. The Old Testament does not think Satan is a bad guy. In the Old Testament, Satan is simply God’s lieutenant. Not an agent of evil. The snake in the Garden of Eden is just a snake. Even today Judaism does not have a devil. That is a Christian hang-up all too many conservative Christians throughout history have been eager to hang on everybody else, this author included.

It’s endlessly fascinating to see how eager these Religious Right figures are to cite the Old Testament, until the Old Testament is inconvenient, and then suddenly the New Testament trumps the Old. In most cases, as when Jesus extols the poor and condemns the rich, you wouldn’t know Jesus or the New Testament exists.

Keep in mind that the Yazidis, like the ancient world’s Pagan population, had their beliefs before Christianity and before Islam. Christianity came along and proclaimed these types of belief to be of the devil and said the gods were not gods at all but demons. Islam came along and did the same thing. What these interloping religions say about religions older than themselves matters not at all, certainly not in the court of world opinion.

The Yazidis are people. It doesn’t matter what their beliefs are. If they were devil worshipers there would be nothing wrong with that from an American perspective, which cherishes a tradition of religious freedom enshrined in the First Amendment.

Nor more than ISIL’s rancid theology do Fischer’s screwed up religious beliefs justify genocide, and he ought to be begging now for the opportunity to apologize for toeing the ISIL line, rather than condemning Obama for saving innocent lives.

Nor, in fact, are the Yazidis, unlike Christians in Iraq, targeted for extermination:

Unlike Christians, who have been told they must either pay a religious tax or convert to Islam to avoid death, the Yazidis are considered by Sunni militants to be infidels who deserve extermination.

This is exactly what Islam did to Pagans in the 7th century when they exploded out of Arabia. People of the Book, like Christians and Jews, historically get some consideration for having common roots. Pagans, not so much. You don’t get cushy offers to convert or die when you’re a Pagan. You just get dead.

Unless you’re a woman. Then you get enslaved. But then, trogladytes like Fischer no doubt think that’s a pretty great fate for a woman. After all, Fischer has said that women were designed to be ruled over by man, and in modern conservatism’s PoV, slaves have got it pretty good. Better than their masters even, so lucky them!

Fischer happily ignores these facts as well, claiming in his column that,

The Yazidis are without a doubt in a terrible, terrible plight, with 40,000 of them trapped by Muslims on a mountain with no food or water. Many of their children have already died of thirst.

The point here is certainly not to criticize President Obama for taking action to relieve their suffering. The point here is that he has shown no empathy or inclination to intervene to stop the wholesale slaughter of Christians by Muslims in the same part of the world. It has taken the suffering of devil-worshippers to get his attention and rouse him to action.

Since they’ve already labeled Obama as demon-possessed if not the Antichrist himself, it’s a pretty easy connection for low-grade thinkers like Fischer to make.

And don’t for a minute think that should the opportunity arise, the Religious Right – far from limiting themselves to a shared theology – would behave any differently than ISIL. They’ve already got divine sanction, after all, to kill the rest of us dead.

28 Replies to “Surprise! Bryan Fischer is in Theological Accord with Iraq’s ISIL”

  1. I hope people are paying attention to what these whack-jobs like Fischer are saying and what they would like to do in America.

    The problem with the right-wingers is not only that their economic policies are an abject failure, but their ideas for society are so decidedly un-American.

    I would not want to live in a world run by the likes of Fischer and his ilk. Fischer and others like him would persecute everyone who was not like them just as the Islamist fundamentalists would do if they were in charge.

    All we need to know about people like the Yazidi is that they are human beings trying to live according to their beliefs, it is their right to live their lives as they choose, just as it is every humans right to live and believe as they want.

    I knew someone on the right would find a way to criticize President Obama over this action, but I never dreamed it would be that he is only helping because they are devil-worshipers. I am once again left shaking my head in disbelief.

  2. How much do you want to wager that this kook never heard of the Yazidis/Zoroastrianism before this week?

  3. Agree with you Terry. One thought however, I have reached the point where nothing absolutely nothing surprises me when it comes to the rethugs, the far right of the rethug party, and the so called hat on head “CHRISTIANS”. In my reading of the bible, have never found the passages that call for not taking care of the poor, the elderly, those who are ill, paying an unfair wage for labor on and on. Nor forcing another to believe as you say or do. When people decided to follow Christ, they did so of their own free will gave up their riches and took care of people. Not the example of one of these today.

  4. Fischer is a fundie xtian. He cant help but lie and lie often.

    ISIS has now taken a large number of the women of the Yazidis as wives for the ISIS fighters.

    Yazidi’s do not get the option of paying a tax or converting like xtians do. This was another of Fischer’s lies. The xtians were not being killed outright, the Yazidi’s are. The Yazidis believe that god created all things including the devil, that’s why Fischer and his brother muslims call them devil worshipers. I mean, WHO did create the one time angel the devil? Is Fischer saying the angels are not gods creation? They just popped into being? Like the big bang? Just more proof Fischer is not in this for religion. Its all about power over people

    However they are not the main reason Obama is sending in jets. ISIS itself is.

  5. I read an article yesterday about the CEO of some Baptist organization who was busted for soliciting on Craigslist for sex with a dog, they busted him in a sting operation and he had to resign. I’m starting to understand why they are obsessed with bestiality now.

  6. Actually, reading the bible, there are passages saying to take care of the poor, the elderly, the ill and to pay a fair wage to the workers. I know you know that, I just don’t understand how these fundies can read the exact same book and come up with such a different understanding of the words.

  7. Funny you should say that. Before I uncovered my genealogical & ancestral Judaism I was raised an agnostic, but nominally as a Quaker. The Quaker meeting was actually founded by Crypto Jews. The founder George Fox, was actually George Fuchs, whose mother was a Sephardic Jew, freshly expelled from Spain in 1492.

    There is an interesting book that anybody interested in genealogy should read: Jews & Muslims in British Colonial America. By Hirschmann & Yates. In it are various genetic projects that show that about 30% of the original settlers were Jewish & Muslim in origin.

  8. Translation:
    “The only people worth saving are righteous Christians — to hell with everyone else.”

    Yet another reason why religious extremism and public policy make poor bedfellows.

  9. Yes but and if. So fuk it kill them all. How many of you bloodthirsty Christians have killed for whatever reason. I remember my ancestors were hunted down by so called good Christians and the end result was this
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    Fine upstanding Christians all of them. Maybe that’s your grandpa on the right

  10. You seem to confuse people being killed, and being known for their religions. You also seem to totally misunderstand the whole point of the article because you hate libs.

  11. Well Brian we all know the devil is going to come”wrapped in a Flag carrying a cross”; looking kinda like you.

  12. The Yazidis personify the Devil as a peacock, and if you wear blue, it means you’re going to the peacock place. Look at Bryan’s shirt.

  13. Interesting that Xtians consider having to pay a religious tax to avoid death is equal to them being murdered in vast numbers. Kinda like the xtians here isn’t it? Take a guess as to what kind of missionaries, who converted them in the first place, are. Dang, there’s that sense of entitlement again.

  14. Has there EVER been a religion that, when in power, did not torture, mame, kill, force conversion etc? If there has been, I have not heard of it. The greatest evil in the world has always been religion. Just liik around the world or even our country and tell me this is not so.

  15. How do these nutjob idiots keep getting on the airwaves??? Send HIM over to Iraq to fight the ‘Satanists’ with his buddies in ISIS.

  16. Where is the proof that any of them are christians. It’s always the blame game. Check your facts. The catholics killed during the great crusades but it is said the christians did it. The world calls catholics – christians but that doesn’t mean it’s true. Check the terminolgy and the facts.

  17. Funny thing, no matter how the rightwing, tries to duck, bob and weave just out and out spin their theories…..the talk of the devil, reminds me of the rightwing.

    Why would someone, like Fischer for example, want those Yazidis taken out, if in fact, Fischer and his crew, did not worship the same following. I mean, devils like the dead and destruction that goes on with devil worshipping and Fischer seems to fit neatly into that enclave.

  18. Pope Expresses ‘Dismay And Disbelief’ Over Middle East
    Dear brothers and sisters,
    The news reports coming from Iraq leave us in dismay and disbelief: thousands of people, including many Christians, driven from their homes in a brutal manner; children dying of thirst and hunger in their flight; women taken and carried off; violence every kind; destruction of historical, cultural and religious patrimonies. All this gravely offends God and humanity. Hatred is not to be carried in the name of God! War is not to be waged in the name of God!
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