Kirk Cameron Warns Against Drinking Pagan Kool-Aid this Christmas

War on Christmas
The War on Christmas is going to be with us again all through this holiday season, and Kirk Cameron has put himself right at the forefront. As I reported here earlier, Cameron is going to be saving Christmas this holiday season with his new film, “Kirk Cameron’s Saving Christmas.”

Having just finished with efforts to steal Halloween from Celtic Pagans, where it is known as Samhain, (pronounced ‘Sowin’), Kirk the Grinch wants to prove once and for all that Christmas is 100% Evangelical Christian and that Jesus was born on December 25.

That, insists Cameron, is the only reason Christmas is celebrated on that day. Even though early Christians had a lot of other ideas as to when Jesus was born, like January 6, March 28, April 2, or April 20, or even sometimes in November.[1]

Except he is wrong. The Christians closest to the event tell us so.

He either doesn’t know any better, though he insists we’re the ones who don’t know anything, or he just likes to lie, even though his Bible says that’s a BIG no-no. Here, I’ll even toss you a clue: It’s a commandment, Kirk. Check it out.

The Christian Post tells us that, “In his first release since ‘Unstoppable,’ Cameron aims to ‘put the Christ back in Christmas’ this holiday season by attempting to debunk disparaging theories surrounding Christmastime.”

The fact – and it is a fact – that Christmas is celebrated on the Pagan holiday of December 25, is hardly disparaging, since facts cannot be disparaging. They can only be facts. It’s lamentable that Kirk Cameron feels insulted by facts, but there is little we can do but to tell him to pull up those big boy britches and soldier on.

Cameron told the Christian Post that, “I’m making ‘Saving Christmas’ because I love Christmas, I love everything about it.”

Everything but the facts, apparently. He is upset that “a lot of people who really want to put a big wet blanket on the celebration,” with their pesky old facts.

Facts, for Cameron, are “Kool-Aid.”

Of course, Cameron has a long history of playing the victim, claiming to be the one being stoned even as he throws stones at gays, for example.

According to Cameron, even the Christmas tree is in the Bible. Except for the fact that trees were a symbol of Paganism – because, you know, we Pagans dig trees – we might believe him.

The ancient Heathens used to “worship” trees not because they symbolized a particular god (though trees, like rainbows, could connect this world to the “upper” world) but because they were symbolic of growth and life, and evergreen trees, which did not wilt and die in the winter, seemed to continue to live miraculously. The Heathens brought offering to the trees – fruit and candles, “dressing” the tree in a manner similar to how classical Pagans decorated the statues of their gods. But this Heathen practice was done in honor of Odin, whose time this was with his Wild Hunt through the skies.

There is plenty of evidence that Cameron is wrong. As I have also pointed out before, religioustolerance.org tells us that:

In 1851, Pastor Henry Schwan of Cleveland OH appears to have been the person responsible for decorating the first Christmas tree in an American church. His parishioners condemned the idea as a Pagan practice; some even threatened the pastor with harm.

So the Bible has Christmas trees? Why did it take 1,851 years from the day Jesus was allegedly born, for somebody to put a tree up for him, only to be accused of being a Pagan?

Cameron likes not only trees but all the other trappings of Christmas, telling The Christian Post that these include “roasting chestnuts, drinking hot chocolate, and enjoying Christmas stockings, stories, trees and food.”

The very things which the Puritans banned. In Puritan New England you could not sing carols or dance, put on a play, to eat mince pies and pudding, and you especially could not drink, and trees were especially considered Pagan. You know, because the Bible says so.

Cotton Mather raged that “the feast of Christ’s nativity is spent in reveling, dicing, carding, masking, and in all licentious liberty…by mad mirth, by long eating, by hard drinking, by lewd gaming, by rude reveling!”

Oh dear.

The Puritans knew, if Kirk Cameron does not, that Christmas did not originate as a Christian holiday, and so they saw it – properly – as a Pagan holiday and disapproved of it. December 25 was only celebrated because in 350 CE – three hundred and fifty years after Jesus was born – Pope Julius I ordered Christmas to be celebrated on December 25.

We can even show the spread of December 25 from the time Julius I made his pronouncement: December 25th arrived in Constantinople in 380, and it’s not until 386 that we find John Chrysostom, in Antioch, ordering Christmas to be celebrated by the Christian community there on December 25. December 25 did not come to Alexandria until 432. The Church of Jerusalem stubbornly refused to celebrate that date until the seventh century! That’s a longer span than that of the entire history of the United States.

Just to be clear: at that date, the year 350 CE, the official Roman calendar showed December 25 was already taken, marked down as the Natalis Invicti, or ‘birthday of the Unconquerable’ Sun. We can’t go back and change the official Roman calendar. This is just one of those pesky facts you can’t make go away.

So contrary to Cameron’s nearly incoherent ramblings, not only was December 25th not originally Jesus’ birthday, not only was it already somebody else’s birthday, but when it was declared Jesus’ instead, nobody wanted it.

Before this, “Irenaeus (c. 130-200), Tertullian (c. 160-225), and Origen of Alexandria (c. 165-264),” big Christian thinkers Cameron must absolutely have heard of, all failed to make mention of Christmas or of any Christmas celebrations. Thus, we can be sure, if anybody was celebrating Christmas for these first three Christian centuries, none of these guys heard of it.

And a final point to make obvious how ridiculous Cameron sounds (sorry Kirk, but you asked for it, buddy):

Clement of Alexandria (c. 150-215 CE), warned (Stromateis 1.21; 145.6; 1146.4) that curiosity about the date of Jesus’ birth was “gratuitous curiosity.”[2]

Did that hurt? It had to hurt.

So look, Clement didn’t know. And what’s more, he didn’t care. Heck, he thought it was wrong to care. So did the Pilgrims!

Even outside of Puritan New England Christmas was not a big deal. Alabama was the first state to make Christmas a public holiday – and it didn’t do that until 1836. Christmas didn’t become a national holiday until President Ulysses S. Grant made it one in 1870.

How is it then Cameron knows something no other Christian knew or cared about down all those long centuries? Why, if Christmas is not a stolen Pagan holiday, did it take so many centuries for Christians to decide to celebrate Jesus’ birth, and why on that day specifically?

This is not mean old Pagans like your surly old son of Odin, Hrafnkell, making this stuff up. This is part of the historical record, Jack…er, Kirk.

For the Puritans, Christmas was “Foolstide,” and Kirk Cameron seems intent on proving them right.

Notes:

[1] Friedrich Solmsen, “George A. Wells on Christmas in Early New Testament Criticism,” Journal of the History of Ideas
Vol. 31, No. 2 (Apr. – Jun., 1970), pp. 277-280
[2] Solmsen (1970).

38 Replies to “Kirk Cameron Warns Against Drinking Pagan Kool-Aid this Christmas”

  1. I was unaware Kool-Aid had any religious affiliations– not even Jonestown, which was some other kind of powdered punch. Meanwhile, I have always dug trees. My land used to be bald as an egg. I dug two spit citrus trees, a Florida redcedar, a redbud, and a Chickasaw plum from various roadsides where they volunteered, and now you just find me in my green castle…

  2. Those who state this country was based on christian values didnt know the puritans or anything about them. They were not christians any more then Bryan Fischer is. That is nothing more then a feel good lie.

    I dont care if people celebrate christmas. For me I enjoy seeing family warmth at this time, although it is seldom considered “in the home” as a religious holiday. I look back on my own memorys of this time of year with a great deal of family fondness. But not a religious reverence.

    Its 2014. Today if you want christmas to be celebrated you must also want others to have their holidays as well. If you dont, you are like the puritans above. Unchristian like and poor of spirit and goodwill your religion is supposed to bring.

    One last thing, Cameron, you are an idiot. And we dont have chestnuts here any more unless they are imported

  3. A minor edit, Uncajoe.
    Faith never relies upon facts. It merely summons them when convenient to do so, bends them as needed, or steps boldly around them as one might a pile of freshly dropped doggie doo on the Summer’s sidewalk.

  4. To be fair, Cameron is correct – the Bible *does* have Christmas trees, of a sort, though unfortunately for Cameron, it forbids the faithful from participating in that act of “idolatry”:

    Jeremiah 10:2-5

    Thus says the LORD: “Learn not the way of the nations, nor be dismayed at the signs of the heavens because the nations are dismayed at them, for the customs of the peoples are vanity. A tree from the forest is cut down and worked with an axe by the hands of a craftsman. They decorate it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so that it cannot move. Their idols are like scarecrows in a cucumber field, and they cannot speak; they have to be carried, for they cannot walk. Do not be afraid of them, for they cannot do evil, neither is it in them to do good.”

  5. “Saving Christmas” or, “Saving Kirk Cameron’s Rapidly Melting Acting Career Prospects With Another Holy Dog And Pony Show, Part VII.”

    Based upon the Magic Star of Christmas Ignorance, which always shines on his ass, no matter which direction he faces.

  6. I believe that he thinks if he squeezes his eyes shut really tight, and wishes really hard, that he can make all his wishes come true

  7. Go ahead, Kirk, drink the “Kool-aide”; you won’t feel a thing. After you swallow, just close your eyes and think about Santa and all those reindeer prancing around on your roof while visions of the Apocalypse dance through your head…

  8. Divinely inspired means improperly wired UncaJoe, Derrick has it nailed on the finer points of the fact debacle that these twits cannot comprehend. And Kirk littl’ buddy…Happy Saturnalia and here’s a big steaming mug of STFU!! with whipped cream and sprinkles of course..I mean really were not savages..

  9. Kirk also advised the “faithful” to “hug your Christmas tree & hug your gifts.” Joel Osteen light? He’s certainly got his priorities straight if he claims that all Christmas traditions are celebrating the “virgin” birth. He’s nuttier than any fruitcake.

  10. Oh, I’ll hug my gifts… I’ll hug them because I got Christmas gifts, not because of some belief of a washed up child actor.

  11. When I read this story.. I wanted to cry.. in UTMOST JOY! After reading Kirk Cameron’s OFFENSIVE story earlier today.. I couldnt have been MORE OFFENDED by anything else in the headlines. My husband and I are PROUD pagans.. who come from proud UNDERSTANDING christian families. Serendipidously enough, I was BORN on christmas day. And upon an appropriate age I could search the world for answers to my own religious questions.. paganism sat right with my aching heart.

    IF Kirk (whom I grew up watching as a child and now find him spiritually grotesque) had actually done his homework in pagan studies, MIGHT actually have his facts straight and BITE his tongue and stick his silver foot in his mouth.

    All religions.. unbiasedly.. are fiction.. told as a story as lessons to live a good.. JUST life. Pagans were FORCED to swallow YOUR religion KIRK. Look up EOSTRE. Have fun with our FERTILITY OFFERINGS to the Goddess your next easter. Ignorant Jerk.

    Cheers (^ – ^)

  12. calm down – we all know the Christmas holiday is just a way for us all to create a beautiful joyful day for us all to enjoy – it comes right at the point where winter is taking a stranglehold on everything (northern climes only of course) and we are all beginning to get ants-in-the-pants over the idea of cold for 3 more months – here we are making a special day – this takes us out of our misery for a while. Most people look on the January-March thing as that time when we hunker down and WAIT, it has it’s particular joys of log fires, cozy sweaters and embracing winds, but it is still a long haul. Thank goodness for Christmas to give us a beautiful episode in the year when we may re-learn a loving attitude to the world and it’s beauty. I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE this holiday, the music, lights, joy in the children and a little glimpse of how wonderful humans can be !!!

  13. It’s obvious this guy Kirk is stuck in some weird Christian Fundamentalism and sees life thru that filter.

    Some Christians are proud to not celebrate Christmas as they want to distance themselves from what they see as a Pagan holiday. So at least, they have studied a bit of history.

    Where I live, at one of our local City Municipal buildings, there’s a Pagan display, a Jewish display and a Christian display outside for all to see and visit for the season. They are all well done and have equal space for the displays. Information is available at each display about what each is celebrating.

  14. “I’m making ‘Saving Christmas’ because I love Christmas, I love everything about it.”

    Translation: I love that I’m a shitty actor and even shittier human being and that I can put garbage out there, slap a “Jeebus” sticker on it and the rubes will continue paying my bills.

  15. What these idiots will not accept as truth is that this alleged “War on Christmas” is simply most people are upset by the crass commercialism and the ever present “Christmas sale creep” that pushes us to buy more earlier and then more later. But Fox News and the other non-news outlets have perverted that real feeling into their phony war just to gin up hatred for their enemies (the American people and increase ratings. This allege war on Christmas started the very same year that Fox News began their War on Reality when they went online.

  16. The Founders and Framers were clear. On matters of religious faith and practice they were seeking Freedom of, Freedom for and freedom from religion. The Anglican Church’s dominance in the Colonies was the direct result of the privileged position that church had as the state religion of the British Empire. The Monarch was (and still is) the Head of the Church in England.
    Further they had the experience of other churches exercising tyrannical control (with Puritan traditions leading the way).

    **“Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the Common Law.” – President Jefferson

    **5. “The Government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.”
    ~1797 Treaty of Tripoli signed by John Adams

    Our Founders and Framers were wise indeed, to found a republic that was secular, thus giving and endorsing no allegiance to any religion or belief system.

  17. “The fact – and it is a fact – that Christmas is celebrated on the Pagan holiday of December 25, is hardly disparaging, since facts cannot be disparaging.”

    Will you post these facts please? If you have proof that Christmas is predated by a pagan festival, it should be easy to prove such with actual source text from the said pagan religions or cults in question.
    Otherwise what you are promoting is based on myth and a lot of bad Scholarship from the 18th and 19th centuries which is what modern Scholars state:

    http://www.throwbackchristianity.com/christmas-pagans/

    http://touchstonemag.com/archives/article.php?id=16-10-012-v

    A list of quotes from Scholars can be found on both.

    As for early Christians, December 25th was chosen by them based on the integral age theory of ancient judaism:

    http://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-topics/new-testament/how-december-25-became-christmas/

  18. This steaming pile of filmmaking leaves my head spinning. Kirk Cameron uses this movie to showcase how brilliant he is by creating a character who is such a straw man dunderhead that it makes his own idiocy look bright by comparison. I’m wondering if Cameron has reconsidered his anti-gay positions, or if they were even authentic in the first place, given that a major supporting character is so obviously flamboyantly gay. Perhaps he would like to tell us more about exactly what kind of “comfort” he’s getting from his BFF Ray Comfort.

  19. Very funny. Anything poking fun at Mr. Cameron is always welcome. But you imply that he is irrelevant. That is wit. Good writing.

  20. I don’t think the author here has actually seen the movie… Cameron NEVER said Christ was born on December 25th. He asked the character who was miffed about the 25th, “Okay, so when was He born?” … He said the winter solstice was a perfect day to celebrate Christmas because when better to celebrate light, hope and grace than the darkest, bleakest part of the year? … He didn’t say that is WHY we celebrate it then… just that it is fitting.

    For the record, Cameron wasn’t saving Christmas from pagans… he was saving it from evangelical Christians who go so far over the top to see the bad in everything that they are missing all the beauty of the season.

  21. The point of this movie isn’t that Cameron is saving Christmas from pagans… he is saving it from evangelical Christians who go so far over the top to see the bad in everything that they are missing all the beauty of the season.

    The war on Christmas that he speaks of isn’t a war waged by pagans… it is the war waged by Christians who care more about being “right” then about celebrating the symbolism of Christmas.

  22. Kind of like this article’s author didn’t let a little thing like not ever watching the movie stop him from critiquing what he thinks Cameron probably said…

  23. Here’s what the bible has to say about christmas trees.

    What exactly does Jeremiah 10 say? Below is Jeremiah 10:1-10:

    This is what the LORD says: “Do not learn the ways of the nations or be terrified by signs in the sky, though the nations are terrified by them. 3 For the customs of the peoples are worthless; they cut a tree out of the forest, and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel. 4 They adorn it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so it will not totter. 5 Like a scarecrow in a melon patch, their idols cannot speak; they must be carried because they cannot walk. Do not fear them; they can do no harm nor can they do any good.” 6 No one is like you, O LORD; you are great, and your name is mighty in power. 7 Who should not revere you, O King of the nations? This is your due. Among all the wise men of the nations and in all their kingdoms, there is no one like you. 8 They are all senseless and foolish; they are taught by worthless wooden idols. 9 Hammer…

  24. These verses have NOTHING to do with Christmas trees.

    “they cut a tree out”…”and a craftsman shapes it”…”Like a scarecrow in a melon patch, their idols cannot speak”…”they must be carried because they cannot walk”…”They are all senseless and foolish; they are taught by worthless wooden idols”

    Don’t you see these verses are just talking about IDOL FIGURES or FIGURINES made from wood? It’s not about a CHRISTMAS tree.

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