Gun Rights Advocate Says People Should Use Guns To Prevent Obama From Becoming A Tyrant

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In an appearance on Newsmax TV’s America’s Forum Monday, gun rights activist and white supremacist sympathizer Larry Pratt said that the reason President Obama is for gun control is “he clearly doesn’t like the fact that the American people can own guns because we might just want to use them to keep people like him from becoming tyrants.” The executive director of the right-wing gun advocacy group Gun Owners for America was discussing the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty. The ATT has long been delayed in the Senate, mostly because Pratt and other conspiracy theorists have convinced a number of conservative lawmakers that passage of the treaty will lead to gun registries and the UN confiscating guns.

Pratt spoke with host JD Hayworth (a former Republican Congressman) and Rick Ungar of Forbes during the segment. When Ungar, who is typically serves as the token liberal on conservative media programs, pushed back on Pratt’s claims that President Obama is coming for everyone’s guns and that Obama is going to use executive orders to push through the ATT, Pratt then retorted with his belief that Obama is worried that people feel he is a tyrant and will use their guns to stop him.

Below is video of the segment, courtesy of Media Matters:

 

 

While mainstream media outlets have turned to Pratt to give his opinion over the years whenever the topic of gun control comes up, they rarely if ever actually highlight just how radical Pratt’s views are. In a profile piece on Pratt this past July, Rolling Stone writer Alexander Zaitchik revealed that Pratt believes that American gun owners shouldn’t be concerned with owning guns for hunting or self-defense. In Pratt’s mind, guns are needed to both scare elected officials and to carry out God’s will as prophesized.

“The Second Amendment is not for hunting, it’s not even for self-defense,” Pratt explained in his Leadership Institute talk. Rather, it is “for restraining tyrannical tendencies in government. Especially those in the liberal, tyrannical end of the spectrum. There is some restraint, and even if the voters of Brooklyn don’t hold them back, it may be there are other ways that their impulses are somewhat restrained. That’s the whole idea of the Second Amendment.” He reiterated the point this March during an interview with conservative talk show host Bill Cunningham. Speaking of a New York Congresswoman who had expressed fear that one of Pratt’s members wanted to shoot her, Pratt said, “You know, I’m kind of glad that’s in the back of their minds. Hopefully they’ll behave.”

And if they don’t? When speaking before smaller, conservative audiences, Pratt explains that it is necessary to both generate an undercurrent of fear and muster the organization and will to defeat the dictator prophesized in the Book of Samuel. When asked during a 2010 Q&A session, “Do we have the will to stand up to the government when they trample our rights?” Pratt replied, “That is an exceptionally important point to raise. We can have all the guns in the world, and if we don’t have the will to use them [against the government], then they are useless.”

While Pratt is certifiable, he definitely has pull within conservative circles. Republican lawmakers, and even some Democrats, don’t dare cross him or his organization lest they be called weak on guns. Pratt was especially influential in getting a Senate bill on background checks killed in early 2013. Even though the Manchin-Toomey bill was extremely gun friendly and far more conservative than other proposed Senate measures, the Gun Owners of America was able to provide the right amount of loud resistance and scare enough senators that the bill was unable to move forward. While the NRA was also a major factor in the bill’s failure, the New York Times claimed Pratt and his group may have been the prime movers. (Pratt took credit for killing the bill during the Newsmax interview.)

While Newsmax TV is trying to provide a further-to-the-right alternative to Fox News and therefore we should expect to hear wackiness from them on a daily basis, it is still troubling that a man like Pratt is consistently given a platform to spew his crazed views. Even more troubling is that he is hardly ever taken to task for his actual beliefs and why he thinks Americans need to own as many guns as possible. Therefore, we will continue to see him used as a counterpoint in MSM discussions on gun control and right-wing media will trot him out as an ‘expert’ on the Second Amendment.

 

H/T Media Matters

44 Replies to “Gun Rights Advocate Says People Should Use Guns To Prevent Obama From Becoming A Tyrant”

  1. This asshat should be charged with sedition, and arrested. After that he should be forbidden to be within 500 feet of anything that can be used as a weapon up to and including eating utensils.

  2. A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

    A well regulated Militia – Willfully blind gun nuts completely ignore this phrase even though it appears at the beginning and describes WHY “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

  3. Anyone with any knowledge of the late 18th century in America knows that, at that time, there was no professional army to speak of. Almost all defense had to be provided by individuals, with their guns. If necessary people in towns or counties combined forces to form a militia. The founding fathers had no idea that the US would have large, professional army and large, professional National Guard forces. Clearly the idea that individuals must have their own weapons to preserve their lives, liberty and property was a product of its time and, in almost all cases, has no relevance in today’s US. Anyone who thinks differently is either extremely ignorant or a gun fanatic (or both!)

  4. This is certainly not an amusing story – but laughed at your comment. Perhaps we could trust him with a plastic “spork” and nothing more than that. Although – with his paranoid mentality – he would find a way to make it a weapon.

  5. I think that is called sedition. Sure wish the Tudor’s were still around, they knew how to take care of rebellion against authority. Guns don solve the problem. If they did assassinate the President, Biden would become POTUS, and they still wouldn’t be happy!
    People use guns as an answer when they lack the cognitive skills to use logic. Violence never solves anything.

  6. That is my thought also. These are basically Brown Shi(r)ts. We won’t see the real insurrectionists until it’s too late, though.

  7. You know, I had a chance to see Newsmax TV for the first time when I had DirectTV.

    What a shame… it’s a freaking Fox News clone. Here I thought that there was another network that didn’t peddle in 24/7 Right Wing Ass Kissing. Makes me glad to watch local news.

    Oh, and this guy is a loon. Can’t we just ignore the loon and let him be.

  8. There is no way Pratt’s organization or the
    NRA should have the power to kill a bill or hold up the appointment of surgeon general. And let me get this straight, Pratt doesn’t trust Obama but he trusts lying, bought, election rigging, shit disturbing war mongers…..REALLY???

  9. This type of crap is going huge from Lou Dobbs and others right now. Any bald faced lie that can be told is being told. This is how they won the elections, this is how they will try and drive Obama from office. This is a fight we probably cannot win.

    This guy doesn’t care that he will get people killed, he doesn’t care about anything except conservative hate mongering

  10. “Rather, it is ‘for restraining tyrannical tendencies in government. Especially those in the liberal, tyrannical end of the spectrum.'”

    Oh, really? So he thinks the founding fathers were some sort of conservative thinkers? They were revolutionaries. And the US was founded on liberal philosophies – the concepts of inalienable rights, free speech, free press, etc. – those are ALL liberal ideals. Any tyrants they envisioned were certainly not liberal.

  11. “This asshat should be charged with sedition, and arrested. After that he should be forbidden to be within 500 feet of anything that can be used as a weapon up to and including eating utensils.”

    And how about this guy?

    ““Rioting and looting are the tools of those without a voice. The rioting and looting, while I didn’t participate in it, was necessary. Without it we would not be standing here today.””

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/16/michael-brown-protesters-louis_n_6167714.html

  12. How about this? All you gun nuts move to your own stupid state with your stupid guns. See how long your population lasts. Stupid idiots! Kids are dying and all kinds of crazy guys shooting people for nothing in theaters and schools..and you blame it on the insanity not the gun…all kinds of innocent black kids getting shot for nothing but its not the guns..women getting shot by husbands boyfriends…and they do it simply because they can get a gun thank you NRA & GOP! Thank you for nothing! Yes I’m mad! I have nothing against honorable hunters! Its their sport. But you don’t need a dam AK47 to walk in a grocery store bar anywhere in public! Not even hunting! How stupid can we get?

  13. “By calling attention to ‘a well regulated militia,’ the ‘security’ of the nation, and the right of each citizen ‘to keep and bear arms,’ our founding fathers recognized the essentially civilian nature of our economy. Although it is extremely unlikely that the fears of governmental tyranny which gave rise to the Second Amendment will ever be a major danger to our nation, the Amendment still remains an important declaration of our basic civilian-military relationships, in which every citizen must be ready to participate in the defense of his country. For that reason I believe the Second Amendment will always be important.”

    President John F. Kennedy

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    “Certainly one of the chief guarantees of freedom under any government, no matter how popular and respected, is the right of citizens to keep and bear arms. This is not to say that firearms should not be very carefully used and that definite safety rules of precaution should not b…

  14. “Certainly one of the chief guarantees of freedom under any government, no matter how popular and respected, is the right of citizens to keep and bear arms. This is not to say that firearms should not be very carefully used and that definite safety rules of precaution should not be taught and enforced. But the right of citizens to bear arms is just one more guarantee against arbitrary government, one more safeguard against a tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which historically has proved to be always possible.”

    Vice President and Senator Hubert H. Humphrey

  15. Yet these people have no concern about people like the Koch brothers and their ilk being tyrants. Amazing! They have no clue who their real enemies are…..

  16. I was wondering the same thing. How does Pratt find his interpretation of the 2nd amendment? Perhaps he has never actually read it and assumes most others have not, either.

    That’s remarkably similar to christians and the bible. Most have not read it and therefore find it easy to make or believe any interpretation that suits their purpose.

  17. I agree with you except for your last sentence. Violence has resolved most of the great issues in history. Think of Genghis Khan, Alexander the Great, Napoleon, Hitler, and for that matter, Abraham Lincoln.

    True, violence doesn’t always prove who was in the right, but it does resolve the issue. I fear that is exactly what maniacs like Pratt are hoping to do.

  18. Does anyone have the number of kids that have been killed by guns this past year, I do not, but I know it seems every day there are killings of innocent children.

    I could cry for this country because we have a political party so bent on hatred, it is the only thing they live and breathe.
    Children die every day, they do not care, one man dies from ebola and it is just a weapon for them, they use it to spread hate and fear, I do not understand what makes these people so evil.

  19. You should read the 2008 Heller decision opinion of the majority so you wont sound so uninformed. The court ruled and affirmed that the individual has an absolute right to keep and bear arms unrelated to service in the militia. You see when the Constitution was written every able bodied male over the age of 16 was considered to be part of the militia. That goes back to the concept of the citizen soldier. Remember the revolutionary war?

  20. Like it or not the constitution is still in force! The court reaffirmed the validity of the Second amendment to that constitution just as recently as 2008 Heller vs District of Columbia.

  21. Derrick and Rey: am not as sure as you about an insurrection but do believe this is exactly what these people would like to see. Insurrection would give them the opportunity to take charge, take over and turn this country into what they want.
    NOT A FREE COUNTRY ANY LONGER!!

  22. Does anyone really believe these people would allow Biden to be president for long? If and this is a big IF, these people ever would take over, elimination of ALL who could or would be in place to be come leader, would be also eliminated. Just as in the LINCOLN murder, there was a plan to get the Vice too.

  23. Great post!

    I, too, could cry because of all the hatred and racism that the TGOP is spewing!

    IMHO, what makes them so evil is the love of money, desire for power, control and destruction of our country/ government, the Constitution, etc. This makes them treasonous.

    Several years ago I wrote a 3-page letter to Boehner and McConnell, telling them they are pseudo representatives (McConnell that he is guilty of treason for stating his goal of making President Obama a one-term president) — that as leaders, they have the responsibility to stop and to tell the TGOP to stop their hatred, racism or something could happen to the President and his family. This was the weekend that Gabby Giffords was shot.

    Several months after, Boehner announced it wasn’t up to him to tell the members of his party to stop. Look how far they have come and the results of their hate.

    I love my country too – and I grieve. Our Founders and Framers are turning over in their graves.

    We found the enemy…

  24. What an idiot. The purpose of the Second Amendment was to protect the country from people like Larry Pratt, who would stage an insurrection simply because they have policy disagreements with the President.

  25. This sounds like treason and sedition to me but ‘m surprised, conservatives tends to be racists and traitors!

  26. Liberal and tyranny are two words at opposite ends of the spectrum in the real world but not in the world of the ammosexuals and Christian fascists. The only solution is to delete the 2nd amendment TOTALY and make a provision for HUNTING RIFLES and SHOTGUNS ONLY. Only police and law enforcement and security personnel should be allowed handguns with interlocks that prevent firing of others. These idiot children have not the intelligence to handle such dangerous things and we must take away their toys. When I was a kid I played with guns…then I GREW UP!!! Now why don’t you children grow up too? and quit being such cowards like the people who vote down common sense and fact here but wont post a comment.

  27. I agree 100% Tiger!!! And what is the most silly stupid part of it all is that these moronic cowards totally refuse to place any blame on the weapon it’s self! To them the weapon does not exist in the equation of bullet entering flesh, to them only the hand and the ammo exist as if they actually throw the round it’s self. And then there’s the piss poor excuse of autos killing as many people and why don’t we ban cars. That statement is the most ridiculous of all! When you can pull a full size auto out of your back pocket and run some one over then we’ll talk! Or How about you gunnuts loading the family onto your .45calibre semi auto pistol and taking them to your local church? Every point they try to make can be..gunned down by fact and reality and TRUTH!!!

  28. One more time, since Mr. Pratt and friends slept through history class. The 2d Amendment wasn’t written to overthrow the government. The 2d Amendment was written to provide the government with a military force to repel invasion and, yes, Mr. Pratt, to put down insurrections.

  29. Newsmax is incompetent, self-serving, and dishonest. For months now they’ve been running a survey (via FB) — essentially, “Do you agree with the way the Nation is going?”

    There is a series of 5 or 6 questions — the last of which is “For whom did you vote in the 2012 Presidential election?” Once you cast your opinion (and register with them, which may be presumed to limit poll entries to a one), you may view the results.

    The results, of course, show that Mr. Obama is out of step with the Nation. Newsmax fails the “polltaking” course by neglecting to provide us the collective answer to that last question.

    I subscribe to Newsmax to keep an ear to the right-wing ground. But their inherent dishonesty is mind-boggling.

    Meantime — hasn’t any of the rabid left-wing gun owners decided it’s time to take out Mr. Pratt?

  30. I believe that the SCOTUS has already decided that private ownwership of weapons is protected under the 2nd amendment… On another note, here is some interesting verbage from the Declaration of Independence…

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form…”

    You can also find this printed on our new $100 denomination Federal Reserve Notes.

    A call to arms? Maybe??

  31. Bob Dvorak, actually there is no such thing as a liberal left loon or a rabid left loon. Those terms where fabricated to mask the REAL existence of the multitude of Crazy Reich Wing WingNut Christian Fascists.

  32. I don’t think our forefathers or JFK envisioned school shootings. Laws can be abused and so can constitutional amendments.

  33. So, AYS, from your comments I take it that you are in favor of a POLICE STATE/DICTATORSHIP/IMPERIAL MONARCHY?

    That is EXACTLY why the Founders fought the Revolutionary War. What is it with you sheep? Do you like being led to slaughter?

    Seems to me that YOU’RE the one who is “extremely ignorant”. And suicidal to boot.

  34. Actually, gsb, the idea would be to RESTORE THIS NATION TO THE ORIGINAL CONSTITUTIONAL REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLIC that is started out as.

    As things set, we’re on the verge of a tyrannical dictatorship of the like not seen since Stalin and Hitler.

    With 2 decades of military service under my belt, I to this day do my best to LIVE my Oath, unlike our “public servants”.

  35. Sorry, Chuckie, but the 2A was written to protect a pre-existing RIGHT TO ARMS from “government” infringement, so the People could, when and if necessary, remove a tyrannical government.

    Product of public schools, are you?

  36. The usual false equivalency claim frequently used by those without the honesty or intelligence to make a reasonable argument. Pratt is an institutional head and a public personality who lobbies as a way of life. However misguided, or erroneous you feel the justification cited for rioting or destruction of property is, you must agree that it is reactionary, angry and spontaneous and a result of real events taking place. Pratt is a deadender deluded to the point of wishing and willing that his apocalyptical vision will come to pass. “Fantasy precedes reality” and nothing would please shallow little men like Pratt more than to witness and help with the ‘fulfillment of his “end of times” fantasy.

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