The Religious Right Wants to Choose the Republican Candidate for President

It says "We the People," not "We the Evangelical leaders"
It says “We the People,” not “We the Evangelical leaders”

Bryan Fischer pulled no punches yesterday in calling for a candidate for president chosen by a summit composed of Religious Right leaders. “It’s kind of like picking a pope,” said Fischer.

No, it’s not, says the Constitution.

But Fischer is wrong: what he is proposing is really not kind of like, but exactly like. And Catholics beware: your opinion is not welcome. The electors will be Protestants, leaders of the Evangelical community, according to Fischer.

Watch courtesy of Right Wing Watch:

I’m hoping that pro-family leaders, evangelical leaders…would come together, have a summit meeting. That they would bring all these various candidates that share our values, get ’em in a room, and grill ’em. Have the leaders of the pro-family movement grill these guys one after another and probe them and challenge them and test them and ask them really hard questions about what they would do as president of the United States with this issue or that issue. What would you do? Where would you stand? And get some promises from these guys. And again, these are people of character and integrity and I still think they need to be probed and pressed.

And then have these pro-family leaders come out of this summit meeting, put their heads together, release all these guys, let them go back to their states and wherever they go, and then put their heads together and it’s kind of like picking a pope. You know it’s kind of that kind of idea and you stay with it until you have the white smoke coming out of the chimney until you pick one candidate that you as a group of leaders would recommend that the entire evangelical community gather behind.

This is not what the Founding Fathers had in mind. Rather the opposite, in fact. They wanted to keep religion out of politics and politics out of religion, thus the prohibition against a state religion found in the First Amendment.

This is because, as Thomas Jefferson wrote to Charles Clay in 1815, the combination of church and state is “loathsome.” And he told Horatio Spafford a year earlier, “In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty.” His most damning condemnation, perhaps, was expressed to Alexander von Humboldt in 1813, writing that,

History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes.

As is well known by now, Evangelicals began the process of co-opting the Republican Party after Goldwater’s defeat in 1964. This was a conscious decision and the beginning of a process which has taken us to Vision America’s Rick Scarborough telling brand-new demon-hunting Colorado State Senator Gordon Klingenschmitt on “Pray in Jesus Name”,

“Christians have infiltrated the Republican Party in Texas and it’s like going to revival meetings when you go to our state conventions.”

For Scarborough, this means “God’s blessing our state and why, I believe, Texas has become a model for other states,” but Founders like James Madison and Thomas Jefferson would have been apoplectic, because, as Madison wrote in 1774, “Ecclesiastical establishments tend to great ignorance and corruption, all of which facilitate the execution of mischievous projects.”

Mischievous projects. Like taking over the Republican Party. Like establishing a state religion in violation of the First Amendment.
Like pushing the idea that the First Amendment, which bans such establishments, actually establishes Christianity as a state religion. Or is applicable only to Christians. This is far from what the Founders intended with the First Amendment. Madison made clear in 1820:

Among the features peculiar to the political system of the United States, is the perfect equality of rights which it secures to every religious sect … Equal laws, protecting equal rights, are found, as they ought to be presumed, the best guarantee of loyalty and love of country; as well as best calculated to cherish that mutual respect and good will among citizens of every religious denomination which are necessary to social harmony, and most favorable to the advancement of truth.

The idea that a religious establishment could in any way be beneficial is a violation of everything the Founders intended and believed. As Madison wrote in his Memorial and Remonstrance Against Religious Assessments in 1785,

Experience witnesseth that eccelsiastical establishments, instead of maintaining the purity and efficacy of Religion, have had a contrary operation. During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the Clergy, ignorance and servility in the laity, in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution.

He sure called that one right. The Religious Right has given us “superstition, bigotry and persecution” galore. Bryan Fischer has almost single-handedly been proof of that, but he has had plenty of help from people like Gordon Klingenschmitt, David Barton, Rick Scarborough, Tony Perkins, and others, not to mention numerous Republican politicians like Michele Bachmann, Sarah Palin, Rick Perry, Ted Cruz, and others.

But at least the Religious Right’s end-game all out in the open now, and Americans can see finally – it is hoped – exactly what these bigots have in store for America: an Evangelical and completely un-Constitutional theocracy, three branches of government completely in thrall to Religious conservatives touting a completely unbiblical religion pretending to be Christianity.

For mixing church and state has done to religion exactly what the Founders warned: it has corrupted both to the point where the religion that went into the process in 1964, is no longer identifiable as Christianity, and the political party it infiltrated is no longer identifiable as the Grand Old Party but has become God’s Own Party.

Madison wrote in 1832 of “The tendency of a usurpation on one side or the other, or to a corrupting coalition or alliance between them,” and he was right. We have seen his warning come to fruition with our own eyes two centuries later.

Thomas Jefferson wrote to Miles King in 1814 that, “Our particular principles of religion are a subject of accountability to God alone.” George Washington agreed, writing in 1789 to the United Baptist Churches of Virginia that, “every man, conducting himself as a good citizen, and being accountable to God alone for his religious opinions, ought to be protected in worshipping the Deity according to the dictates of his own conscience.”

But in Bryan Fischer’s scheme, the Religious Right would put themselves in God’s place, and force Republican candidates for president to be accountable to them only. Scarborough bragged that “Texas has become a model for other states” but we don’t want the Texas model in our states, or anywhere in our country.

It is impossible to make this sound like a good thing.

Jefferson seems to have been looking both into the past and also into the future when he wrote to Jeremiah Moor in 1800 that, “the clergy, by getting themselves established by law, & ingrafted into the machine of government, have been a very formidable engine against the civil & religious rights of man.”

Amen.

36 Replies to “The Religious Right Wants to Choose the Republican Candidate for President”

  1. This is a unique situation to the USA, where “evangelicals” with their ridiculous magical thinking, hate of others and abandonment of rational thought are on the verge of taking over the country with maybe the exception of a few outposts of decent human behavior. IF the American voters should be even more stupid than I think they are, and we should have a republican president with a republican congress and supreme court, we will have in effect killed the USA. And, personally, I would not want these trash controlling our nuclear arsenal and military…seems like they already have many of our police…

  2. The time to tax churches and religious organizations is long overdue. Anyone who would follow these religious nuts needs a mental examination.

  3. LMFAO, as I’ve said since the days of jerry falwell, the GOP made a deal with the DEVIL!! those phony, FAKE christians are power hungry also. The religious right see’s an opportunity to control much of the party but heres how it’s gonna play out, The bryan fisher types will keep pushing and demanding more power and guess what? the GOP’s true masters “CORPERATE AMERICA” is going to slap the religious right upside the head! The GOP can’t serve two masters!! and like ALL republicans, MONEY trumps ALL!! BYE BYE religious right!! you RAT BASTARDS!!

  4. I live close to the Lesea broadcasting and just about every preaching program is preaching this dominionist flat out false history. On top of that, their commercials are pretty all huckster Scam’s. The latest one asking retired people to send in the jewelry so that their treasure will be waiting for them in heaven. It’s really sad to see American’s double down on dumbness over the last decade.

  5. You’re so right! hopefully the “CHURCHLADY” doesn’t pop up with her nonsensical rants about protecting these CROOKED churches!! BTW, doesn’t LBJ give churches tax exempt with the condition they stay out of politics????????!!!!!!! well they broke that promise, now it’s time to stop giving them WELFARE!! I guess david manning will have to cutback on prostitutes and BMW’s, life is rough, ah rev.????

  6. Mark my words, if these lunatics don’t get their way? They will start shooting…people, innocent people will suffer needlessly at the hands of these nightmarish Christofascist monsters

  7. It has less to do with establishing a theocracy as it is a power grab. The religiosity is merely a front, taking the path of least resistance, which is through the blind accepting passion of the most fervent believers. If you want a glimpse of the end game, look at Joel Osteen or John Hagee, with their immense, ostentatious wealth.
    All great movements become a business, and then a racket. Religion is no different.

  8. one part of evangelism is, that Christians think they are part of it, and they really have no idea what evangelism is. Estimates run on the size of evangelists in America as between 7% and 25%. If you take that down to people who just believe as an evangelist, the 7% number is more likely. Evangelism why Christianity, is nothing more than a business. evangelism as a business, seeks to govern with power. Then you run into the problem of how does a religion or religious belief govern and maintain its power? It has to do with force. do you really want religious rule? Why do people who call themselves Christians think that they can align themselves with evangelists? And don’t even start me on Catholics, I will never a set that is a valid religion.

  9. “And again… I still think they need to be probed and pressed.”
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    Yeah, I’ll just bet you do, Bryan old boy.

  10. Emmm…no. The understanding, which is probably already in place tacitly, will be: Religion is for the little people. It’s so handy for controlling them. People above a certain station will have cheap grace, but a controlled press will see that when The Right People sin, the news never sees the light of day.

  11. Regardless of what the religious right preaches, this statement shows exactly what the founders of our nation believed.

    Article VI, paragraph 3, of our Constitution:

    “The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.”

  12. It seems that all that is left of “Christianity” are the fundamentalist perversion dogma freaks*; those who follow a radical distortion meant to fuse political motives with barbaric beliefs–there is no “true spirit” intended. What we are witnessing are expressions of their cruelty. Fisher the Phisher is their chief head hunter on many levels.

    I see no difference in what he and his ilk are doing than any other barbaric savage regimes who’s intent is to brutalize all those who won’t bend to their will. Why else would these “Good X-tains” arm themselves so heavily? Because of the Constitution? HA! They are armed to fight like savages for tribal superiority. That’s all people like Fisher know.

    I’m sorry we are forced to look at this disgusting minority monstrosity who’s only purpose is to intimate an bully passerby’s with a skull on a stick marking some cannibal’s territory. And this is WHY I call them Bible Barbarians!
    *Not included in this barbarism are social just…

  13. I just don’t understand how people can base their lives on myths and superstition in the 21st century. We think the human animal is so intelligent, I have my doubts.

  14. Don’t be sorry at all. We need to bring this stuff out in the open. These “people” claim to know that our society was founded in religion. The ONLY way to defeat these zealots is to bring their refusal to face facts out into the open and rub their faces into their lies and falsehoods.

  15. The “electors” will NOT be Protestants at all. They will be Dominionists who despise Protestants. MAYBE some Evangelicals, but they will come from the most rabid extremes of Pentecostalism and not the mainline denominations. Pat Robertson summed it up several years ago denouncing Methodists, Episcopalians, etc. as people beneath his contempt. So no – NOT Protestants. Way too liberal for ’em.

  16. Leucippus67 May I ask what State you live in? Want to make sure I never come near it. Can not believe people are so stupid as to believe such common crap..” there treasure will be waiting form them in heaven”? If they give it to these people to safeguard? Do they not read their own Bible?

  17. Correct churchlady, Protestants are to them are no different then blacks, jews, catholics, any other religion then their own. This defines what a Domionionist is. However the Domionist is more then willing to USE any other religion to get what they want in any fashion they choose.

  18. Giles Cory did not die for religion alone, he died because he was a property owner.(property others wanted.) But he did not admit to the sin he was charged with and because he did not admit, his property was not available for the taking, then given to his heirs. Believe he alone was the only one to have saved their property. During the witch trials of the day, if you admitted the sin, that gave the property to who ever wanted it. Usually your neighbor

  19. And what about Peter Popoff with his magic spring water & non stop commercials?

    The scams never end, they just keep thinking up new ones & the sheep fall all over themselves to send money.

    I called in on one of more flagrant scams & asked the person at the other end of the line, how he could justify working to promote people getting fleeced by these scammers. He freaked! I mean freaked. He threatened to call the police on me if I ever called them again. He was shouting when he made his threat. I laughed & told him to have a nice day – if he could.

  20. Some evangelicals? The evangelicals I know are dominionist so I don’t know where you get that. Protestants are right there with them, evangelicals are Protestant. I think you are trying to carve out some space for yourself to keep from admitting that your faith is also involved in this dominionist crap.

  21. Catholics are so stupid. Repub religious folks don’t even consider them Christians. They never have and I’m sure they never will. Yet repub Catholics sold their souls decades ago and have no idea how negative they are viewed by Bible thumpers.

  22. The press isn’t controlled. It’s repub owned and repub board run. No one is controlling them. It’s who they are. All part of the plan when folks were loving Reagan and not paying attention. Why did I see it loud and clear?

  23. @Downriver, you nailed it, how so many catholics fall for the utter nonsense of the GOP amazes me, the right wing throws up doughy pasty face goons like o’reilly and hannity AKA KLANNITY, and white catholic males eat that crap up! You gotta give the GOP credit, they really know how to MIND FU#K people to do unbelievable things.

  24. Take a look at what Ted Cruz’s daddy said. His son was there to attain the power to plunder “the unrighteous” and bring back their wealth to “the kings”. Any of us who has anything at all could end up where Giles Coreu was…and for the corporate “kings” and their Dominionist high priests, it’s all good.

  25. South bend is their headquarters. I live pretty close to 7th day Adventists headquarters also, they broadcast the same although they aren’t using people like other denomination’s.

  26. No sorry JAG they didn’t… It’s only a matter of time really. We are closer to a “Hand maids tale” society everyday.

  27. Well, the upside is that this would identify the candidate least likely to be actually elected under any circumstances.

  28. Because I forgot to recharge my Kindle, the other day I picked up a book I’ve had for years but never read. It’s called “The Christ Conspiracy: the Greatest Story Ever Sold” by Acharya S. What I’ve read so far is about the founding of Christianity and, basically, it’s a fucking fraud with a mythical figure drawn from other ancient faiths and propped up with forged “gospels” and the like, all for the enrichment and power of its priests. So really, these assholes are the true Christians.

  29. Well, there is former President Jimmy Carter…

    He wrote a book a few years back talking about how the Southern “B”-word authoritarians came after him and tried to bully him about abortion and several other issues; he wouldn’t bend to them.

    The GOP went after him on numerous occasions for being a wimpy guy due to his religious belief; that real men, macho turds like themselves, didn’t fall for all that religious pansy stuff…

    Take about being being bullied for his belief in being a president to all and, on top of that, a Democrat!! The nerve of that guy! Maybe “persecuted” is too strong of a trigger word, but, he was in many instances. He took it on the chin and never whined about it like Fisher the Phisher.

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