The Religious Right’s Replacement for Obamacare: God!

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When Andy Borowitz satirically writes in the New Yorker that Marco Rubio has vowed to block the Twenty-First century, saying, “We cannot stop time, perhaps, but we can defund it,” it’s funny. It’s funny because that’s exactly what Republicans and their Religious Right allies are trying to do.

This week’s fun started…this week, I think (because all that time-defunding means that only the gods know where we might actually be, chronologically speaking) with Pat Robertson Monday on the 700 Club telling a viewer to stay away from the doctor’s office.

The viewer had already asked God “to be my physician” but his family was pleading with him to see a doctor to be treated. Because, you know, that’s what doctor’s do:

I am 76-years-old. Several years ago, I made a covenant with God. I asked Him to be my physician. I said, “I trust you, Lord, for all my physical needs – whether I am sick or healthy, healed or afflicted. I will never cease to praise You, and when my life is ended, I pray You will receive me into Your holy kingdom.”

But Robertson’s answer was that if you have God as your physician, you don’t need a doctor. He told the man,

“You’ve made a commitment to the Lord, stick with it, don’t let your family influence you, do what you feel like doing. Live your life, God bless you.”

Too bad Robertson isn’t willing to ante up final expenses. When he consigns somebody to death, that ought to be required.

And then newly elected Colorado State Representative Gordon “Chaps” Klingenschmitt chimed in. He said that a Fox News poll – now this is a FOX NEWS poll, mind you – shows that 58 percent of Americans want Obamacare repealed, and took the opportunity on his Pray in Jesus Name program to say people “ought to look to the Lord for our healthcare.”

I have some objections:

Number One

Again, this is a Fox News poll, and so suspect and hardly representative of what people actually want, or don’t want. Politifact looked at the issue, based on the statement by DNC spokesman Mo Elleithee on CNN’s “State of the Union” that “One thing that is much more unpopular than the Affordable Care Act is repealing the Affordable Care Act.”

According to Politifact, and based on a number of polls, that statement is “mostly true.” Meaning Fox News’ claim is false, and that Klingenschmitt is proceeding from a false premise.

Number Two

(And this on a personal level) unless God is a big manufacturer of the son’s enzyme replacement he needs to continue living, I don’t see that happening. I don’t care who the god is. I know personally speaking, that my own gods would not wish me to be that stupid.

But Klingenschmitt pulled out Exodus 15:26:

If you will listen carefully to the voice of the Lord your God, and do what is right in his sight, and give heed to his commandments, and keep all his statutes, I will not bring upon you any of the diseases that I brought upon the Egyptians; for I am the Lord who heals you.

You might notice that even if the verse is taken at face value, cancer was not among the diseases brought upon the Egyptians. Nor was tuberculosis. Or emphysema. Or heart disease. Or Gaucher disease. Or any number of other diseases which afflict millions throughout the world.

No, even YHWH is not promising here to replace doctors.

But he assures us,

“I personally prefer to look to almighty God as my healer and not to the government as a substitute god or substitute healer.”

Which brings me to,

Number Three

There is the little fact that Klingenschmitt himself does not rely on God for his healthcare. You know how I know? He cannot possibly, as he doesn’t live according to God’s law or his statutes, which is the precondition set forth in Exodus 15:26.

1. He lies. Lying is a no-no. Says so in the Ten Commandments. Horrendous as the Religious Right claims being gay is, being gay doesn’t make the top 10.

Lying does. Right there at Number 9.

Klingenschmitt gives us Exodus 15. I give him Proverbs 6:

There are six things that the LORD strongly dislikes, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers. Proverbs 6:16-19

2. He hates. Jesus said to love your enemies and turn the other cheek. Klingenschmitt doesn’t turn the other cheek. He attacks and insults and condemns. Rather than turn the other cheek to Right Wing Watch, for example, he got their YouTube account terminated “by filing copyright complaints against a handful of our videos, resulting in several thousand of our videos being taken down.” Of course, the videos were protected under Fair Use and RWW has their account back and chock full of Klingenschmitt videos.

So I will also give him Matthew 5:

And if anyone wants to sue you and take your coat, give your cloak as well (Matthew 5:40).

Klingenschmitt wants this nation to “repent of worshiping President Obama as if he is a god” but the person who ought to repent is Klingenschmitt himself.

In the grand scheme of things, his health plan is on a part with the GOP’s official stance, which is “just die already.” Because that is what we will do if we get rid of our doctors.

Both men, meanwhile, are nominees for Right Wing Watch’s prestigious 2014 Equine Posterior Award, and though they did not make the final four, that is only because there is a lot of competition.

40 Replies to “The Religious Right’s Replacement for Obamacare: God!”

  1. Fox news polls are meaningless at best. Right landslide Willard. Not so much, just numbers spewed by Ailes and regurgitated down the line.

  2. “You’ve made a commitment to the Lord, stick with it, don’t let your family influence you, do what you feel like doing. Live your life, God bless you.”
    ———————

    Would that be the same as seeing a witch doctor?

  3. what if you don’t believe in God, then what? Robertson is a hypocrite! We all know d**n well that Robertson has health insurance and visitors physicians for check ups just like everybody else!
    Robertson is one of the biggest hypocrites around! I have not forgotten, circa 1997, 1998, he was telling viewers not to borrow money, lest you become the tail and not the head. At the same time he was trying to receive a loan from the RBS (Royal Bank of Scotland)! They turned him down, which put a smile on my face. Only a moron listens to the advice given by the backend of a donkey

  4. There is only one test to see if he bo-lieves. Tell him he has to depend on this god for his paycheck. god will deliver the check under his pillow at night. Tell him He no longer has healthcare, and to pray mightily he doesnt get sick. Of course very religious people get sick, but their faith cant be as strong as Klingenschmitt’s can it?

  5. Klingenschmitt’. Wasn’t he a chaplain in the military? If so I wonder did he turned down his socialistic government healthcare provided by the VA?

  6. Pat Robertson is one of the biggest con men around.

    A bunch of years ago, for some reason I still can’t fathom, I tuned into the 700 Club. There he was crying, mopping his face with a handkerchief, chin all aquiver, nose red and running. He is saying that during the night his Lord came to him and told him that unless his followers sent him $1M in a week he was going to die. He didn’t want to die, he had too much left to do, so could they please help save his life by sending whatever they could?

    Heck, I was willing to wait to see what would happen.

    Apparently, Robertson’s followers weren’t as curious as I was and he claimed he had gotten the full Mil.

    The only thought that came thru to me was, “A fool and his money are soon parted”.

  7. Oh, hell – even Jesus knew that holy healing went just so far. In Matthew 10 he directs his apostles, all humans, no Godly intervention, to go into towns and heal the sick as the FIRST prerequisite to all other actions. No abracadabra – using the tools of medicine as they then had them.

    So if he figure it out – medicine trumps faith healing – what the hell is wrong with these people?

    And why oh, why do these supposed Christians pay more attention to the Old Testament grounded in tribalism and rules that Jesus himself disregarded and violated? These Old Testamentarians see Jesus as a ‘get out of jail free’ card to play at death. His teachings? Not at all interested. If there IS an ‘after’ they are in for a rude shock.

  8. I’d like to test his faith by breaking the nose of this arrogant asshole.

    Will he pray for it to not be a flat, bleeding pinnacle of pain or will he demand a doctor and a reconstructive surgeon?

  9. Too bad Klingenschmidt did not pray to look more appealing. He looks as though he fell from the ugly tree, and got beaten by EVERY branch on the way down. Does Franklin Graham have health insurance? Does he have insurance on his private jet, which is something EVERY Godly televangelist needs.Face it, televangelism is a family business, like plumbing or electricans business. Ol’ Pat’s son is an adulterer, what does Pat have to say about THAT?

  10. Just another RW “escape hatch” to avoid responsibility to one’s body-health and to being “our brother’s keeper.”

  11. These relegious parasites sicken me!!, claiming to speak for god and jesus, all the while begging you for money so they can get that big house, new Mercedes etc, their only god is money and power.

  12. When they all stop going to Drs. then they can tell their viewers not to. Bet he takes more than aspirin to keep him going. God gave you a brain and he expects you to use it. Of course if they all stop going to physicians they too will die. Stupid people taking advice from stupid people. I know some on the right who can’t get enough surgery so to keep them living and making the rest of us miserable. A neighbor of ours just had his 3rd surgery in 3 months so he will not have to pay his deductible again next year. He is scheduled for his 4th surgery because he is an exercise nut and overdid it when he was younger. He wants to live to be 100. Great,another right wing wacko.

  13. Christians talk about abiding by Gods commandments but, they more than not violate them on a daily basis. Her is one example that all the for mentioned people violate.
    Not to put the word of G-d to the test (Deut. 6:16)
    Here are 613 of Gods commandments which some or all people mentioned above violate daily also.
    http://www.jewfaq.org/613.htm

  14. anyone knows God us drs there is nothing wrong seeing dr, I bet the one that are sayinng dont go to dr i bet everyone of them even most have insurance and see there drs from time to time, anyway just blow off pat robertson cuz he preaches a false gospel and the name it and claim prosperity preeachers preach false gospel to, just blow them off and ignore them

  15. also there is nothing wrong trusting God in prayer for ur needs and health needs but there is also nothing wrong seeing ur drs and Pat Robertson is wrong for giving that advice not to see ur drs

  16. i see a dr about every two to three months and i have prescriptions on a daily basis that I take nothing wrong

  17. What a lovely bunch of secularists. Convenient how you all forget that you as a group are committing population suicide and will wipe yourselves out in the next few decades if you continue murdering all your children.
    If I were you guys I’d be far more worried about the continuance of my own group than of Christians.
    Anyway, God bless you guys! I hope you realize that you’re just obsessed with your own desires and that secularist belief is bankrupt in every way.

  18. Great cliche post, but yuou are hardly christian.

    And because you dont get out often, you must realize that the number of christians is falling while the number of people who dont need religion is rising

    Remember fake christian, if you were born in India you would be a hindu about now. How many gods do you have? Its obvious pride is one of them

  19. Numbers never lie
    Who’s having abortions (religion)?
    Women identifying themselves as Protestants obtain 37.4% of all abortions in the U.S.; Catholic women account for 31.3%, Jewish women account for 1.3%, and women with no religious affiliation obtain 23.7% of all abortions. 18% of all abortions are performed on women who identify themselves as “Born-again/Evangelical”.
    http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1839399/pg1

    Care to elaborate your dogma again?

  20. Coming Soon: Robertson’s Cure-All snake oil for sale on Fox News with free shipping. God endorsed, Jesus Approved! Call now 666-1666.

  21. No. -There’s a very slim possibility that a witch doctor might actually have an herb or a root that could treat an illness.

    Relying on god as your primary care physician is more like reciting your symptoms to yourself in a mirror. ;P

  22. Not all that slim, I have healed my kidneys with burdock root. And thats based on doctors tests 2 years ago up till now

  23. It was NOT Pat – and I bet he’s bitched he didn’t think of it – it was Oral Roberts. Someone sent him $8 million, and, unfortunately, God did not ‘call him home’ for several more years.

  24. Remember DJ that Dominionists don’t think ANY of the groups you’ve cited are “Christian”. So if they have abortions, it’s “proof” of the assertion.

    What they don’t know is that their own girls and women are sneaking into clinics to have abortions, too – they just don’t admit it. No figures exist because they don’t declare a religion (not required) but their numbers are legion.

    And “walkaways” from the extremist sects is the single largest religious movement in America.

  25. Klingenschmitt wants this nation to “repent of worshiping President Obama as if he is a god”?? Has he ever seen JESUS CAMP? Those Holier-than-thous bring out a cardboard cutout of Dubya and have little kids kneel to it and bless it! What a hypotwit!

  26. For my part, I have abated gallstones and avoided surgery with what are essentially curry pills. Of course, I must still avoid cheese, butter, sour cream, and ice cream (sob!)

  27. LOL I LOVE his “I leg pressed 2,000 lbs” story… That’s right kids, faith and magic pancakes and you can be stronger than an olympic athelete at 80!

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