Todd Starnes Says Muslim Holy Days in Public Schools Persecute Christians

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Fox News’ Todd Starnes, who I believe has the unfortunate role of being the male version of the appallingly clueless Elisabeth Hasselbeck, got together with Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council the other day to talk about the terrible persecution of Christians in this country.

What has them so riled up? New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio’s decision Wednesday to put two Muslim holidays on the school calendar: Eid al-Adha and Eid al-Fitr. New York City is not the first city to do this, but it is the biggest.

The news had predictable results: rights for Muslims means persecution of Christians.

Tony Perkins: But yet when it comes to Christmas and Easter, two very prominent Christian holidays, they’re not on the school calendar, they’re called ‘winter break’ and ‘spring break.’

Todd Starnes: Oh yes. For the sake of tolerance and diversity, that normally means the Christians are going to be discriminated against or their holidays are going to be minimalized.

Starnes told Perkins that one of the holidays (Eid al-Fitr) falls during the summer and so “will only impact kids going to summer school.”

And Right Wing Watch’s Brian Tashman helpfully pointed out that,

Easter always falls on a Sunday, which would explain why it is not on a school vacation calendar, while Christmas does in fact appear on New York City’s list of school holidays [PDF]. The city’s schools are also closed for Good Friday, along with the Jewish holy days of Yom Kippur, Rosh Hashanah and Passover.

Why didn’t the two complain that those Jewish holy days persecute Christians? Well, because Jews aren’t Muslims.

Instead, Hasselbeck-like, Starnes went on to complain, “For the sake of tolerance and diversity and inclusivity, don’t you think they should rename it something else, like mid-spring break or something like that?

Never mind that Eid al-Adha falls on September 24, which is not in the spring.

Which led to this exchange:

Tony Perkins: If they’re going to be consistent. When 85 percent of the population identifies as Christian but we can’t have a Christmas holiday because it’s religious but yet we can have Muslim holidays, something is not right there in New York City, in ‘The Big Apple,’ something is rotten.

Todd Starnes: You’re absolutely right, Tony. And how many times have we seen this, where the Islamic faith is being given accommodation and the Christian faith and other faiths, quite frankly, are being marginalized. Not just in the public work space but also through the Obama administration.

Tony Perkins: I think the Obama administration has created the environment for policies such as this.

But he’s not. He’s wrong. So is Todd Starnes, who, as The Friendly Atheist is more than happy to point out at Patheos, makes a career out of “making sh*t up.”

First of all about how many Christians there are. In fact, only 77 percent of Americans, not 85 percent, still self-identify as Christian as of 2012 (as it has been falling for years, the percentage is certainly smaller today).

Protestants haven’t been a majority since 2012 and fully one in five Americans is unaffiliated. In 2012, that was 46 million people who were categorized as “nones.”

And alarming as it is that anyone would want to do this in the face of the Constitution’s direct prohibition, only 57 percent of Republicans – barely more than half – want to make Christianity the state religion of the United States. At this point, it’s a relief to discover that almost half of Republicans are still loyal Americans. It’s not as bad as I thought.

In fact, I’m downright encouraged.

Finally, here’s a startler for you: specifically white Christians, the Tony Perkins type, are no longer a majority in 19 U.S. states.

Another point to be made here is this pretend concern for “other faiths,” which Starnes and other conservatives are only too happy, as professed Christians, to themselves marginalize.

And their argument can be turned around: they complain that if Christmas is called ‘winter break,’ and that therefore a Muslim holiday should be “mid-spring break,” but if, as they insist, Christmas is Christmas, why are they objecting to Eid al-Adha being called Eid al-Adha?

If they’re opposed, can’t we start talking right now about a “war on Eid al-Adha”?

And please, let’s not pretend that if it were called something other than Eid al-Adha that Perkins and Starnes would not still be complaining, because a Muslim holy day would still be the reason for the holiday.

Here’s the problem in a nutshell: The New York Times quotes Ibrahim Hooper, spokesperson for the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), as saying, “When these holidays are recognized, it’s a sign that Muslims have a role in the political and social fabric of America.”

Just ask Pamela Geller: “What do all of these disparate players – Obama, de Blasio, Sharpton, CAIR – have in common? A shared goal: the destruction of America.”

The Republican obsession with CAIR borders on the pathological, ironically proving, more than ever, that CAIR serves a vital function in this country.

Yet it is less CAIR here than the reality of Muslims “having a role.” Perkins and Starnes (and Geller) don’t want Muslims to have any role. They don’t want Muslims to be here at all, to have First Amendment Rights period, let alone any influence.

There is no persecution of Christians in America, and granting equal rights to other religions is not an attack on Christians unless, like Perkins and Starnes, you interpret Religious Freedom to mean “freedom for Christians only.”

The First Amendment says we all have equal religious freedoms and unless and until traitors like Perkins and Starnes overthrow the Constitution, it will remain that way.

Can I get an amen?

38 Replies to “Todd Starnes Says Muslim Holy Days in Public Schools Persecute Christians”

  1. The Islamic religious calendar is a wholly lunar one, and hence not tied to the secular calendar (which they observe for ordinary purposes) at all. Ramadan, for example, can occur in any calendar month of the year. You can’t fix it on the school calendar and call it a seasonal break.

  2. I would equate hypocrisy and Christianity. I guess that goes for all organized religions I would prefer no religious holidays. Christmas and Thanksgiving have become non religious holidays for most.

  3. True. Their calendar is based on the
    phases of the moon. We know the cycle of moon’s phases are well established. No variations? But the head mufti has to “see” the moonrise and the calender is set. Of course all industry has to print calenders ahead of time but in 1985 the mufti didn’t see the moon on that day so the year was one day longer. They had to redo all printed material.

    Ramadan is the most venerated month of the Hijri calendar. During this time, Muslims must fast from dawn till sunset and should give charity to the poor. While living in Saudi Arabia I suffered (lol) through Ramadan. What happened is the whole country went on night shift. They “fasted” from dawn till dusk then went on “day shift” after dark. The eating and drinking went on at all times of the night We contract workers, on dayshift ate our meals hidden from the public That is what happens when a Nation has a “state religion” and that is what most fundies want in America. Their version of…

  4. Just excellent. Serious question. Why every time I read about nonsense like this the person spouting it looks like a pervert?

  5. Since when did the message of Christianity become intolerance? Thats not the form of Christianity I’ve been taught.

  6. because food always makes things better…

    EID Chicken Charmoula

    Ingredients

    4 cloves Garlic
    1 inch Fresh ginger root
    ½ cup packed Fresh cilantro
    ½ cup packed Fresh parsley
    1½ tsp Paprika
    1½ tsp Ground cumin
    ¼ tsp Cayenne
    Salt to taste
    ¼ cup Olive oil
    4 tbsp Lemon juice
    3 Skinless chicken breast halves

    Method:

    1.Chop garlic with ginger,cilantro and parsley separately.
    2.Blend the above ingredients in paprika, cumin,cayenne and salt.
    3.Add the oil, lemon juice, blend well and spread over the chicken.
    4.Place the ingredients in a covered dish and marinate in refrigerator for 2 hours.
    5.Place the chicken, meaty side up on foil or parchment paper lined baking sheet.
    6.Roast in 375 degree oven for 30 minutes, Cover loosely with foil and roast for 15 minutes.

  7. Oh poor Christians, they don’t have a Christmas holiday. No, they just “happen” to get 2 weeks off of school during the time that Christmas occurs.

  8. Jihad comes in 3 stages:
    Phase 1–when in the minority(under 5% of population) cry for ‘Tolerance’.
    Phase 2–when breeding/immigration bring numbers higher, go on ‘defensive Jihad’. Demand Islamic schools, set up no-go type zones, demand Muslim Holiday at school and work, ect.
    Phase 3 — when numbers approach near 50 % of the pop. –go on ‘offensive’ Jihad. Violent demands for Sharia Law and violent attacks on Infidels.

  9. What I’m about to write is politically incorrect, but honestly, why are all the non-attractive folk drawn to the GOP? Not that that’s a bad thing, of course (!!!) but, just wondering…..

  10. First off Todd, Christians persecute EVERYONE! even their own kind! Second,ANY religious ceremony or display of religion no matter who’s it is, is a violation of the separation of church and state EVEN if your ignorant ilk denies that it IS the law. Third, there is NO “war” on Christianity! There is only the word NO! No you cannot shove religion into every nook and cranny of the public sector! NO! you cannot tell me to believe as you do or I risk the loss of employment, home personal belongings and personal freedom. And NO!! you CANNOT make this into your “Christian nation” with biblical law replacing Democrat rule of law!

  11. I’ll bet one of my Cadillac’s that this guy has a computer that’s chock full of kiddie porn! Pervert just oozes from his countenance and voice patterns….and rhetoric.

  12. As the late, great George Carlin said: “Have you ever noticed that people who are against abortion are ones you wouldn’t want to f**k in the first place?”

  13. How does it ‘persecute’ Christians to have two holidays celebrated by Muslims to be days off from school?

    Does this nincompoop even know what ‘persecute’ means? I see no persecution here, just a school district trying to make sure that they include holidays that matter to a portion of the district. Nothing wrong with trying to make sure that everyone feels included.

  14. Sounds like euro-Christianity in the US. but all 3 Abrahamic religions look alike to me.

    Misogynist, selfish and totalitarian.

  15. Easter and a few other euro-Christian holy days are also based on a lunar calendar.

    Easter falls on the first Sunday after the first full moon after the Spring Equinox. Which is why Mardi Gras dates change.

    as for persecution, the nuns used to explain it was the best part of being Catholic. God loves suffering. sick, huh?

  16. And so the pendulum swings. First to the left, pretty much during the 60s, then to the right, from the 80s until now.

    That damn thing better start swinging to the left because I, personally, have had it with the right.

    These “christians” haven’t a clue of what persecution really is. They should have lived, as Jews, in Germany, Poland and France in the 30s. Or maybe as Kurds under Hussein, when he used nerve gas, courtesy of our “exceptional” country, in an attempt to obliterate them. Or maybe they should have been in Cambodia under Pol Pot.

    Yet here they are, moaning and groaning about “christian persecution” because the Mayor of New York gives Muslims 2 day in the school year for holidays.

    These bigoted, hypocritical, phonies need to GO. The sooner the better.

  17. The men tend to look like hereditary or congenital degenerates. The women, when young, are often “hot” in a hard-edged, waspy way, but they look like three-martini lunchers as soon as they hit thirty, with at least another martini per decade thereafter.

  18. Todd Starnes Says Muslim Holy Days in Public Schools Persecute Christians

    So as an atheist can I rightfully say that me and others like me are being persecuted by Christmas and Easter and Thanksgiving?

  19. 3 ounces good Gin… I recommend Junipero, Gordon’s or Seagrams..

    splash of good vermouth or LilletBlanc (if you’re a Bond fan)

    dash or 2 of orange bitters…

    add to a shaker with crushed ice and shaker vigorously for at least 10 seconds…

    serve in chilled martini glass with olive(s).. I like Mezzetti anchovy stuffed…

    at least it’ll make you feel better when you look at them

  20. It’s one thing to observe a spoiled brat (religious wackos, Men’s Right-ists, Birthers)whinge about being treated ‘unfairly’.

    And quite another to see the Ditto-heads nodding in complete Agreement. Evidence be damned.

    R-amen!

  21. As a Southerner, I’ve rarely seen a chicken recipe I didn’t want to try. It’s what we do. But this looks Wonderful!!

    It’s a silly thing. But all these yutzes who think everyone should be exactly the same as they are? They are the true Un-Americans. We’re not a “melting pot”. We’re a magnificent stew. We don’t need to all blend into a bland, tasteless mess. We need to be a collection of the wonderful and unique beings we are. Like a really great cookbook.
    That’s what America is.

  22. Muslim country like Pakistan. Indonesia,Malaysia,Bangladesh,Turkey,Azerbaijan,Jordan,Palestine has less than 2% Christian but they have holiday in Christmas then why don’t this so called “civilized” country has any holiday for Muslim. However thanks to New york city. Hope,rest of the country follows this. America is a so called a civilised country while Pakistan is so called a backward country. Christmas and Easter days are official holidays in Pakistan since 1947.

    Muslim children not only need halal meat and Eid Holidays but they need state funded Muslim schools with Muslim teachers as role models during their development period also. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school. Legally, the state has an obligation to respect the rights of parents to ensure that ‘education and teaching(of their children) is in conformity with their own religious and philosophical convictions.’
    IA
    http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk

  23. Where does following the Constitution come in? If Christians and Jews have their holy days off, why can’t the Muslim kids? NYC schools are closed for Yom Kippur, Rosh Hashanah, and Good Friday. Easter is always on Sunday, Christmas is during the semester break, winter break, or Christmas vacation. Whatever you call it, it’s still ‘off’.
    If you don’t want Americans who are Muslims to be treated like other Americans, you should get all your friends together and call for a Constitutional convention. Or see if you can get a repeal of the First Amendment through Congress. Otherwise, too bad. This is America. We aren’t supposed to be like the ‘other guys’.

  24. I suppose the Winter Break could be split. Half could be Christmas and the other half New Years. Since Easter is on Sunday why would Spring Break be called Easter. Fine, you can have Easter off. Wait, you already have Sunday off. OK, I guess if you want it to be called Easter, you do not get to have a Spring Break.
    [WINK]

  25. I remember the Christians Hated the Jews for killing Jesus.I remember one had to wear a head scarf or hat to go to a Catholic Church .I remember it being a mortal sin if a Catholic entered a Baptist Church.I remember a Baptist wasn’t allowed to associate with a Catholic.
    History repeats itself, with both haters going after anothers religion they have no idea about.
    Constitution says Freedom of Religion, NOT from Religion. So as I see it, ..It should be for ALL religions or NO religions. Especially the ones that Hate the most. Which in the Christian Religion as others .The New commandment I give you is to “love one another.” mmm.wonder who said that.?

  26. As long as ALL the kids get the new days off school, and the school year is simply adjusted to allow for that, what on earth is the problem?
    The only issue is these bigots whining about somebody else getting recognised as being there at all. The just want to control everything themselves. I do not want to see Islam OR Christianity made the official state religion, Or Buddhism or Hinduism either – neither should we allow ‘special’ anything to accomodate any religion that was not matched by an equivalent accomodation for all religions – so if Muslims insist on separate schools, that would not be allowed unless all educational laws applied to those schools also (assuming there are any laws?) including the normal schedule of classes every child should get in the US. If this is not standard, then it certainly should be, or how do you know what kids are being taught !
    I suspect this is an issue with extreme right-wing Christian schools anyway.
    How tiresome these human belief systems are…..

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