MSNBC Ignores Their Viewers By Vowing To Keep Morning Joe And Move Or Cancel Liberal Shows

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MSNBC hit a new level of tone deaf by deciding to keep the show that viewers despise (Morning Joe) while threatening to cancel or move everything else that isn’t Rachel Maddow.

Politico reported:

The extent of that change could be vast: In the months ahead, MSNBC is likely to shake up the bulk of its programming, moving some shows and canceling others, high-level sources at NBCUniversal told POLITICO. With a few exceptions — notably “The Rachel Maddow Show” and “Morning Joe” — every program is at risk of being moved or canceled, those sources said. “All In with

Chris Hayes,” a ratings suck that currently occupies the 8 p.m. time slot, will almost certainly be replaced. Network execs are also considering moving some weekday shows, like “Politics Nation with Al Sharpton,” to weekends. “The plan is to re-imagine what the channel is,” one high-level NBCUniversal insider with knowledge of the network’s plans said, “because the current lineup is a death wish.”

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For some NBC insiders, the failure of “All In” — Hayes is a distant third place to Fox’s Bill O’Reilly and CNN’s Anderson Cooper, both in total and in the demo — is indicative of the limits of Griffin’s reactive approach to programming. Unlike Ailes, Griffin didn’t set out to create a partisan network because he believed in the ideology. He did it because it made sense from a business perspective. Olbermann was popular, so he gave Maddow a show. Maddow was popular, so he gave Hayes a show. The problem is that not every disciple is as good as the mentor. Maddow was a groundbreaking liberal voice, an entertainer and the first openly gay prime-time news anchor. Hayes was just a smart kid from Brown University.

It is important to note that MSNBC was never liberal due to an ideological belief. MSNBC went left because there was money to be made in serving the underserved liberal cable news audience. This change has nothing to do with Comcast. It is all about the fact that MSNBC has been losing money. Comcast would turn MSNBC into a 24-hour liberal lovefest if it made them more money. Viewers may care about ideology, but profits are the only thing that matters to corporations.

The report goes on to state that beyond the axing of All In, Al Sharpton, and Ed Schultz are going to banished to the weekends. Chris Matthews and Hardball are among the top three most watched shows on the network, so it doubtful that Hardball will be canceled or moved.

Viewer complaints about the three-hour Republican propaganda centered around Morning Joe are always going to fall on deaf ears. The network bosses love Scarborough, so until viewership plunges even more, Morning Joe is not going anywhere. Rachel Maddow hosts the one show on the network that is capable of drawing a respectable audience. It will be interesting to see if the network moves Maddow to 8 PM as has been previously reported, or if they take a different approach to building primetime around her.

The changes that look to be written in stone are more hours of news anchored by NBC News, the shuffling of Schultz and Sharpton off to the weekends, the canceling of Alex Wagner and Chris Hayes, and it has long been suspected that Lawrence O’Donnell and The Last Word will be replaced.

The reason viewers don’t watch MSNBC for breaking news is that the network doesn’t do news. Phil Griffin took MSNBC so far into the realm of opinion that viewers stopped going there for their news.

The changes at MSNBC do not represent a failure of liberal media. MSNBC’s problem is that it has become stale and boring. The network is full of hosts who use the same format and discuss the same issues. There is nothing, outside of Maddow; that is different and exciting in MSNBC’s programming.

There is still a huge and vastly underserved audience for liberal news. The lesson that can be taken from MSNBC’s faceplant is that liberals are also people who want to be entertained. The biggest change that needs to happen at MSNBC is that top management beginning with Phil Griffin needs to be replaced.

106 Replies to “MSNBC Ignores Their Viewers By Vowing To Keep Morning Joe And Move Or Cancel Liberal Shows”

  1. I wish they would separate News from Entertainment. A talking head editorializing is not news, nor is it entertainment. Give me news and I’ll make up my own mind; then I’ll turn to the entertainment.

  2. MSNBC stopped being Left(or pretending to be) years ago…

    The “in” thing now is to be a loud-mouth right-wing asshole and blame the president for everything-that’s how they make their money…

    If Dems would stop watching Scarborough and getting on Twitter and complaining about him like he cares about their outrage, maybe his ratings would tank enough and they would have gotten rid of him-BUT NOOOO

  3. If Comcast removes the liberals, the ratings will really take a nosedive. Most people saw this shakeup coming when Comcast took over.

  4. I am not a TV expert, but how could anyone find Morning Joe the least bit interesting or likable? He is more obnoxious than Hannity.

  5. The Last time they tried to shuffle off Schultz to weekeneds it lasted all of 3 months max before they put him back on in weekdays because of public outrage

    so i could see if they tried to move Ed & Al to weekends. there would be an outrage again

  6. Al Jazerria has been looking for an opening! If they could get Keith and other liberals, MSNBC will dwindle into another Fox Network! And we know that only one Faux is allowed in the hen house!

  7. I will not watch another fox lite. Where do progressives go for news that’s NOT right wing controlled? Here comes America, the next third world facist state. Wish I was able to relocate.

  8. The new Thomas Roberts show is plain awful.

    I can’t decide if it is CNN or Fox that they are going for.

    Ed Schultz is a raving lunatic

    Lawrence has an ego issue

    Alex Wagner is awful

    Andrea stutters and stammers constantly

    I like Jose Diaz Balart

    I like Ari Melber but The Cycle stinks

    Tamron Hall is no lose

  9. Maybe I see Al Sharpton in a different light than you do. Like, maybe, I haven’t judged him based on his past mistakes…

    I like the variety of points of view he has on his hour program, much more than Melissa Harris-Perry (who seems a bit TOO nerdy to me), but the one thing that keeps me from tuning in MSNBC at the beginning of his hour instead of when Hardball begins is Sharpton’s high-octave pitched voice. An hour of that and my ears are ringing.

    Actually, Chris Matthews affects me the same way, so I don’t always turn MSNBC on during his hour either. But my viewing usually goes straight through until The Last Word, which includes both All In and TRMS.

    You’d think there’d be more people like me to counterbalance the Fox News channel watchers.

  10. Once again, another article saying how ‘All In’ isn’t very different from any of the other shows on the network, which is false.

    Overall ratings for All In are above CNN. It’s the key demos that are down.

  11. Bring back Keith Olbermann at once!!!

    Replace Chris Hayes with STEVE KORNACKI!

    Do NOT cancel Lawrence O’Donnell-his show IS different and NOT boring!

    If you bring in non-liberal hosts MSNBC you will cease to exist.

  12. Would love to see Keith Olberman come back!!!!!

    Replace Chris Hayes with STEVE KORNACKI!

    Do NOT cancel Lawrence O’Donnell-his show IS different and NOT boring!

    If you bring in non-liberal hosts MSNBC you will cease to exist.

  13. Replace Chris Hayes with STEVE KORNACKI!

    Do NOT cancel Lawrence O’Donnell-his show IS different and NOT boring!

    If you bring in non-liberal hosts MSNBC you will cease to exist.

  14. I’m with moving Rachel Maddow to the 8:00pm slot right after Hardball. I enjoy Hardball and very rarely miss his show and I only catch rachel Maddow now and then but really this would be interesting as Rachel would be going up against Bill O’Rielly who is nothing but igotistical blowhard and needs some good competition so Bring Rachel ON and let the words fly shed be great at that slot ( 8:00pm )

  15. Replace Chris Hayes with Steve Kornacki!

    Do NOT replace Lawrence O’Donnel his show IS different and NOT at all boring!

    Would be great to see Keith Olberman back at the helm.

    Do not replace liberal hosts with non-liberal or MSNBC will cease to exist.

    Your choice of hosts is the problem–not that they are liberal.

  16. I’m with moving Rachel Maddow to the 8:00pm slot right after Hardball. I enjoy Hardball and very rarely miss his show and I only catch rachel Maddow now and then but really this would be interesting as Rachel would be going up against Bill O’Rielly who is nothing but igotistical blowhard and needs some good competition so Bring Rachel ON and let the words fly she’d be great at that slot ( 8:00pm )

  17. Its like watching the same shows over and over only thing different is the people hosting them. You can only listen to the same talking points so many times. If I watch any its Maddow and sometimes I do watch hardball. Was disapointed when they removed Oberman

  18. I really like both Hayes and O’Donnell, because they do alter the focus somewhat from the others, and because Hayes, in particular, recognizes the problem of climate change in a way that the others seemingly do not – but I understand the issues too. Wall to wall opinion without substantive news can get overwhelming or boring, depending on your perspective.

    And yes – bring back Olbermann. Give him whatever he wants. He was worth every penny.

  19. They have to keep MJ or he will really flip out on the set. He have been so close to it everyday I have watch it that I just turn the station. Two things sets him, the president and Hillary Clinton, neither one of them can do anything right. And to hear one more time how it was when he was in congress, we all will be crazy. Do he realize this is 2015? He really hate the president and poor Mika she just sits there like she is afraid to open her mouth or he will jump down her throat. It seems like all the regular co-guess are now afraid to speak up or getjump on by him. He is afraid of Rachael and Rev Al and he don’t try to out talk them or be loud with them. He sounds like a man that needs to be on meds, maybe he is still upset he didn’t get the MTP spot and thought he should have gotten it.

  20. No, the lesson is no one wants to listen to “liberals” attack and lie about PBO endlessly form the left. Also, no one wants to see endless clips of Rush, O’Reilly and Hannity on “liberal” programs. If I wanted to know what these assholes are lying about, I’d tune into their respective shows.

  21. I like all the MSNBC news shows with the exception of morning Joe.I’m Rachel Maddow is going to continue.I will miss the others.might have to search for more quality political news

  22. i’m pretty much going to be done with MSNBC. if i wanted to see that conservative crap, i’d turn on faux fox news. MSNBC sold out. they are going from being a decent news station to toilet fodder. they obviously don’t give a rats behind about the viewers who have been with them for so long. well, they can bring in the conservative garbage, and i hope they choke on it. i won’t be watching it. would love to see rachel take the sane people from MSNBC and start her own channel. one can dream. piss on you MSNBC!

  23. I don’t care where they move Morning Joe. I don’t like him and will not watch. If they move Rachel, I will taper her and watch at a time that suits me. If they cancel other shows I now watch, I just won’t watch whatever they replace them with. It is simple. If I wanted spoon fed propaganda I would just watch FOX. I don’t. I want truth. If MSNBC becomes more FOX like, I will get my news strictly from the internet. Simple.

  24. First I don’t watch cable news. Now my question is this, why is MSNBC trying to emulate the other cable networks?

    If I was in charge I would get rid of the personality gobshites of bovine excrement and center my programming around discussions with real experts not the same tired voices who have been wrong 90% of the time about topics that would educate the viewer.

    I don’t want to hear the both sides talking points or the glib remarks that 90% of the time the pundits don’t know what they are talking about.

    MHP on the weekends has he right idea with the topics she covers and the diversity of her guest. But then again Santa Clause exist.

  25. 1. Sharpton has to go. He never has any fresh insights, and, quite frankly, and he is in constant warfare with the English language.

    2. Bring back Olbermann. I just wish he would grow up JUST a little bit.

    3. Keep Morning Joe. Sure, Scarborough can be a jackass, but, hey, he’s a Republican. That’s like calling a chicken out for having feathers. I like to hear about things from other perspectives. Oh, he’s often very wrong, but I still want to hear it.

    4. Get a show like CNN’s Crossfire. Obviously, the trick is to find a conservative who can intelligently discuss the issues without saying anything nutty. Maybe an interactive show where viewers can pose questions/ contribute to the discussion via messaging.

    5. Get rid of those Prison shows. Nobody cares. Maybe they could get the rights to all those great programs A&E used to show when they were about Arts and Entertainment instead of whatever it is they do now.

  26. If MSNBC would actually BE a liberal, progressive network, they’d be fine. But they can’t decide what they want to be.

    I don’t want to hear the same talking points over and over and over. I don’t want to listen to people lie through their teeth while the hosts of these shows say nothing about it.

    They’d pick up a lot of viewers if they’d just make that damn sharp turn left and stay there!

    And bring back Keith Olberman and Martin Bashir for crying out loud!

  27. I’m afraid that MSNBC’s show The Cycle is on the chopping block. MSNBC is not saying too much about it. Now that MSNBC wants to get more conservative viewers by leaning towards right wing. I am really scared for that show.

    It was just a matter of time before MSNBC dropped the ball when they cancelled Joy Reid’s show. Her show was brilliant.

    MSNBC, if you keep continuing to go on this path. The network will cease to exist.

  28. Please do NOT remove Ed Schultz or relegate him to weekends. He really delves into the issues and the discussions are lively and informative !!!! Not too fond of Al Sharpton.!!

  29. Bring back Olberman!!!!!!!!!! He was fantastic…miss his O’Reilly commentary..Chris Matthews still a favorite more and more…Rachel Maddow makes me think smarter and outside the box! Morning Joe has great guests love Barnicle, Brian Sullivan, Willie Geist, and the other regulars…get rid of Meka’s last half hour..ruins the show..she is so much better when she sticks to the regular part…knock off the ditzey act and she would be more respected..agree with the changes but feel that profitability will return with Olbermann’s return..he was the best ever..the reason I switched to MSNBC

  30. If MSNBC wants to increase their ratings, they should cancel the stupid “caught on camera” and “life in prison” shows. They totally suck.

  31. We watched it happen to radio, now TV. The liberal voice is being moved to the internet. WE will have to go to pod cast, you tube and other venues to discuss our news and ideology and here news. To be quite honest people left MSNBC because they supported black issues. The same thing happened to CNN when they did black in America, the viewers quit watching. During the Michael Brown case MSNBC was very supportive and that just will not be tolerated in this day and age. I think that was MSNBC’s downfall.

  32. Although Al Sharpton does struggle with language on his show, I admire him.

    If his “past mistakes” is about Tawana Brawley, I hope someone in my family, or community makes that mistake with me or someone I love.

    Meaning, come to their aid no matter what. That is what he did, and when Tawana as caught lying, Mr. Sharpton admitted it.

    What the hell is wrong with that?

    Nothing.

  33. I’ve watched Rachel Maddow every day since the beginning, Chris Hayes has a great show and I watch every day, same for Lawrence O’Donnell. You had a lot of talented people with very similar shows. Get rid of the prison crap and bring back some old popular serials, etc. and I’d continue to watch MSNBC for my news,etc. even more.

  34. MSNBC: There really is an opening on cable TV for a host with a supple intelligent mind to present the NEWS.

    Many on MSNBC ‘Use the News’ to make a point–that point usually being: Democrats good; Republicans bad.

    After a while, I tired of the wall to wall rant and really wondered what was happening in the world. I wanted to hear the news from the viewpoint of a progressive with roughly my values, a host who doesn’t have knee-jerk reactions to a complex news story.

    Overlooked in all the talk about hosts is Andrea Mitchell. She’s a solid reporter, a sharp interviewer and usually has good backstory info. When she does give an opinion, thankfully she thinks independently; she’s not a slave to the superficial Beltway right-leaning smugness that infects absolutely all the regulars on Morning Joe.

  35. Overlooked in all the talk about hosts is Andrea Mitchell. She’s a solid reporter, a sharp interviewer and usually has good backstory info
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    Really? Mrs Greenspan

  36. I find the timing far more disconcerting as the election approaches. There will be no balance to the FOX propaganda. The people at the top of MSNBC are also millionaires that like their tax advantages. They have plenty of reasons to want the election go Conservative. Imagine a Republican White House, Congress and Senate. That’s not Government…. it’s an Empire.

  37. Leave Rachel alone
    Replace chris with Kornacki
    Bring back Oberman
    Dump Al
    Dump Mellisa
    Dump Andrea
    Dump Morning Joe–Just a TERRIBLE program
    DUMP ALL THE PRISON PROGRAMS__THEY STINK

  38. Follow the money. Comcast is all about greed, only looking to indulge themselves with paid commercials… constant and in your face.
    The Ed Show is down to 23.5 mins of Ed vs. 36.5 mins of cars, car insurance, drugs, investing, etc.
    If only Rachel could move to FreeSpeech TV or Al Jazeera America…
    As for “Morning Joke”… ’nuff said.
    Get real news from Thom Hartmann and Amy Goodman on FS.TV!

  39. Right Phil Griffin, get rid of anyone with any itellegence, knowledge of issues, and stays current. Hayes. Shows your stupidity and understanding of what “News” actually is. Maddow is great and knowledgable but tends to be more on the entertainment side, Laurence, of course, is beyond your ability of “5” minute attention span. The reason why people watch Fox News 24 hours a day is because it’s more fun to watch bullshit scandal, hate news and lies like it is to slow and watch a car crash everytime. When you sit in a position of power and responsibility, you should of course think 100% about money. I have yet to read one response that says “Keep Griffin, Keep Griffin”. But I suppose you live in your own delusion, speaking only of the bottom expect that is for “Morning Joe” where you have to pay celebrities to obvious fake tags and say that you will keep that show no matter how low the ratings get. You remind me of Ned Beatty in the board room scene in “Network”.

  40. Right Phil Griffin, get rid of anyone with any itellegence, knowledge of issues, and stays current. Hayes. Shows your stupidity and understanding of what “News” actually is. Maddow is great and knowledgable but tends to be more on the entertainment side, Laurence, of course, is beyond your ability of “5” minute attention span. The reason why people watch Fox News 24 hours a day is because it’s more fun to watch bullshit scandal, hate news and lies like it is to slow and watch a car crash everytime. When you sit in a position of power and responsibility, you should of course think 100% about money. I have yet to read one response that says “Keep Griffin, Keep Griffin”. But I suppose you live in your own delusion, speaking only of the bottom line except that is for “Morning Joe” where you have to pay celebrities to obvious fake tags and say that you will keep that show no matter how low the ratings get. You remind me of Ned Beatty in the board room scene in “Network”.

  41. Right Phil Griffin, get rid of anyone with any itellegence, knowledge of issues, and stays current. Hayes. Shows your stupidity and understanding of what “News” actually is. Maddow is great and knowledgable but tends to be more on the entertainment side, Laurence, of course, is beyond your ability of “5” minute attention span. The reason why people watch Fox News 24 hours a day is because it’s more fun to watch bullshit scandal, hate news and lies like it is to slow and watch a car crash everytime. When you sit in a position of power and responsibility, you should only money, instead of decide what type network you are. I haven’t read one response saying “Keep Griffin, Keep Griffin”. But I suppose you live in your own delusion, speaking only of the bottom line except that is for “Morning Joe” where you have to pay celebrities to obvious fake tags and say that you will keep that show no matter how low the ratings get. You remind me of Ned Beatty in the board room scene in “Network

  42. Amen. He is painful to watch. He cannot speak in complete sentences, even with the assistance of a teleprompter.. Furthermore, he should be in jail for not paying his taxes. Instead, he gets invited to the White House. If he is the official Black spokesperson, the African American population is in a world of hurt.

  43. I’m so glad I no longer have cable – such a liberating feeling. I don’t need so-called pundits to think for me. I prefer coming to sites like this one for my information.

  44. I’m so glad that I no longer have cable – such a liberating feeling. I don’t need so-called pundits to think for me. I prefer coming to sites like this one for my information.

  45. I have never watched more than a minute of Morning Joe and never will. I usually do not watch The Cycle because it is mostly neo-liberal bullshit. Many of their hosts and DC beltway people who have no idea what actual people need or want – they are as blind aas the GOP in congress. I am certain the right wing scum will see this as a victory for idiocy, but we need a REALLY LIBERAL news and opinion channel and it seems like we will not have one any time soon.

    Yeah, and get rid of that prison bullshit.

  46. Chris Hayes started out great. But then he went down the Ferguson, Mo. Rabbit Hole and his ratings went with him. Media in general messed the bed on that story. There’s not anything wrong with MSNBC that getting rid of Comcast wouldn’t help fix. Olbermann knew it was the end of decent Journalism there. The fact that it coincided with the death of his father was perversity of circumstance.

  47. It has to be by design. Because no one can make disastrous mistakes one after the other, like Phil Griffin, and still maintain his job as President. May I remind you that MSNBC was fiercely right-wing right up until 2000? Ann Coulter, Laura Ingraham, Tucker Carlson, Michael Savage,Don Imus, and Joe Scarborough all had shows at MSNBC. Let’s also not forget Pat Buchanan also had a show.

    If they move Ed and Al to the weekend, Chris Mathews will see his ratings fall. This happen before. However, he and Scarborough are the corporate darlings, though viewers find them unbearable. Little Luke will also be around.

    I stopped watching MSNBC after the 2014 Midterm. Their default position is to reiterate Republican talking points. Then offer a Milquetoast response. I got tired of that.

    Comcast is an issue here. Brian Roberts CEO of Comcast is a R.W. Republican. His political status was removed from his NNDB profile. Republican media owners do not want to support Liberals. Th…

  48. I love Chris Hayes and “All In.” Please, MSNBC, don’t cancel him! He’s brilliant at analyzing events and conservative dogma, plus he’s a great interviewer. For me it’s tradition to watch him, then Rachel Maddow. They are like family. After those two, I’m pretty up on the news.

  49. I like Ed Schultz. He speaks for the people, especially the blue collar workers. I don’t get to watch Rachel at 9 due to getting up early for work, but get to watch part of her show in the morning, so I’m glad they usually replay it then. I never watch the back to back to back prison shows. What a waste.

  50. MSNBC and its arrogance and was well as firing keith, has caught up to it.

    Hardball is good but follows a bad format, too quick and rambling, lawrence is great but it’s at night where it should be because folks stay up and focus, I do not want it to change focus, it really needs to be one of those late nate, talk and panel shows.

    Sharpton is same ole, tamron hall same ole, melissa harris perry, boring, irrevelant, not as nerdy interesting as ezra or chris hayes.

    The Cycle is boring, krystal ball is better as a guest panel not with a show of 4 folks rambling. Maddow is okay, ed schultz is good but probably better at its 8pm slot.

    Lockup is the same old depressing stuff, I mean why make videos about the prison industrial complex that liberals hate. Yeah, its one thing to document it, but its not entertainment. Candid camera belongs on a different channel.

    Yes MSNBC does need to do traditional shows and probably markets, but not too much as it does that to an extent. Fire…

  51. Leave Rachel alone
    Replace Chris with Kornacki
    Bring back Olbermann
    Leave Ed Schultz alone
    Leave Lawrence alone
    Dump Al
    Leave Melissa alone
    Dump Andrea
    Dump Morning Joe–Just a TERRIBLE program
    DUMP ALL THE “PRISON” AND “ON CAMERA”
    PROGRAMS__THEY STINK!!!

  52. Granny Smith, q.v.; Lodi, q.v.; Criterion, q.v.; Winter Banana,q.v.; Ivory Transparent, q.v.; Orange Pippin, q.v. … want me to go on?

  53. OK, I just have to comment. First of all Steve Kornacki is a smart guy, but he talks too darn fast! Andrea Mitchell is a bore with a monotone voice that is like nails on a blackboard. The Cycle is boring, Alex Wagner is cute and Ed Schultz is a favorite. Chris Mathews interrupts everyone so no one can hear what they are talking about. Morning Schmoe is the absolute worst and I refuse to have him on my television. I miss the heck out of Martin Bashir and Keith Olbermann, but Comcast wouldn’t let them do what they do best, so why bring them back. Rachel is excellent in breaking down any situation so that we all go away from her show knowing what is really going on. I liked Lawrence O’Donnell until he quit doing his “rewrite” every night and because he was incredibly rude to Jennifer Granholm. I think Rev. Al does a good job being the voice of those no one ever listens to. I have been a loyal MSNBC watcher, but I think I will be searching elsewhere for my liberal news.

  54. Black issues won’t be tolerated in this day and age?

    Exactly what age are we in right now? I heard somewhere that it was 2015, not 1865…

    Police brutality is not just a black issue.

  55. I wish they would come up with a station that has only liberal or Dems on it. I’m sick of the RWNJs getting all the attention. I loved MSNBC once, but watching less and less of it now. Could take the libs on there and give them their own channel, that would be worth watching. Whenever a RWNJ is being interviewed on MSNBC, I change the channel. Just not interested in any of their garbage talk.

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  56. How is MSNBC ignoring their viewers when the two shows they are definitely keeping, Morning Joe and Rachel Maddow, are the only two MSNBC shows that have viewers?

  57. So you monitor every one’s TV to see what they are watching? And to put morning joke viewership in perspective Mike and Mike on ESPN has more than triple the viewers of morning joke

  58. I am really fed up with Top Brass Conservatives at MSNBC with their conservative biases towards shows that at least discusses issues that concern me as a Black American! Yet you cling to racist idiots like Scarborough… Why the hell would you keep your silly prison shows? What are you implying by keeping them? I’m actually offended by it…. blacks in prison entertaining? I’d fire all of you at the top if it were up to me… How’s that for good business?

  59. Most of us thought that Comcast would screw up MSNBC — and now we know for sure. There is thirst in the marketplace for a blend of fair-minded news reportage and intelligent, progressive opinion. Come on, Comcast, don’t wallow in the muck of absurdity that is Fox News, nor compete with CNN for the oleomargarine crown! And, don’t let your bewildering indecision rush you hell-bent into premature irrelevance. Keep Rachel, Chris M, Chris H, Andrea and Lawrence in the key slots, then recruit a few other super talented hosts to showcase what is already the world’s best news organization — NBC!

  60. This is what you get for Morning Joe and spending far too much time on every story. Too much discussion and not enough news.

  61. Quit putting blacks under one blanket you self serving undercover cowardly racist!You are afraid of Sharpton because he puts dimwitted punks like you in their place and tears your simple minded ass up. Take a seat idiot!

  62. I stopped watching MSNBC long ago. Stuck with Rachael and two or three more on TiVo for a few weeks longer and finally just took the network out of my lineup altogether. Recording almost everything I watch is teaching me something. What I ACTUALLY watch. I try to give shows a chance. But find most are off my season pass very soon.
    The “news” shows are lies and liars. Bores screaming over each other to see who can be the most outrageous and obnoxious. No truth, bad scripts.
    The entertainment side..especially ABC and FOX is just straight up porn and not even that “Lite”. Scandal had very graphic sex scenes between every commercial break. I think there’s better places for that kind of thing than Prime Time TV. Kids are watching that think that is “real life”. I have started watching again. Better stories. Madam Secretary is a standout. Good strong scripts. Clothes that fit. The women not stupid long haired blonds.
    Not nearly enough of these. Getting closer to cutting the cord.

  63. Chris Hayes and Lawrence O’Donnell and other hosts should remain.

    Joe can go, but I usually watch Free Speech TV in morning anyway.

    Progressive views must be shown, even on corporate “news” stations who rarely present progressive real news.

    Has any corporate “news” station mentioned that the TSCA replacement bill that is being debated was written by the chemical industry?

  64. Why replace Chis with Karnacki? Let Chris go back to the format he had on weekend mornings – intelligent people given the time to debate and make their case – instead of forcing him to cover breaking news like the American Sniper verdict – which went on for-freakin-ever. Give Karnacki his own daily show as well as Ari Melber.

    I pay for premium cable only to watch MSNC. I can always catch Rachel on a podcast for free if Chris, Lawrence, and Alex go away.

  65. Leave Ed Schultz alone also. He’s been an incredible warrior with the Ed Schultz show which aired through Clear Channel in Colorado and other radio stations throughout the country. His popularity won him his own show on MSNBC. I also like Lawrenc O’Donnell and I’m sick of these ass wipe network owners who could give a crap about what viewers want. Get rid of rightie Joe Scarborough who belongs on Fox….not on MSNBC!

  66. Leave Ed Schultz alone also. He’s been an incredible warrior with the Ed Schultz show which aired through Clear Channel in Colorado and other radio stations throughout the country. His popularity won him his own show on MSNBC. I also like Lawrence O’Donnell and I’m sick of these ass wipe network owners who could give a crap about what viewers want. Get rid of right winger Joe Scarborough who belongs on Fox….not on MSNBC!

  67. I detest Morning Joe. Just so boring!
    Love Rachel and am okay with Chris and Sharpton. Hate the prison shows.

  68. It’s all about the election.Each host has their own demographic. RW politics, hispanics, Reagan-era wannabe’s, young progressives, blacks, gays. Very little liberal politics outside of Rachel,Alex and Ed. I’m sure the RW hacks they have been bringing on and working out will be the new moderators. A I said, it’s all about the election. The medium is the message.

  69. As long as the ownership of MSNBC is one of the DOD’s largest contractors, MSNBC will NEVER be anything but “Liberal Lite” or “Progressive Pablum”. They will NEVER allow the full truth whether news or opinion to emanate from their programming. MSNBC could set FauxSnooze on their ear if they stroked the liberal/progressive base with the REAL news as it actually happens. They are afraid of upsetting their corporate masters. They do leave the window open for someone else (Aljazeera?) to come in and not just target the demographic, but to SERVE it, too.

  70. “DUMP ALL THE PRISON PROGRAMS__THEY STINK”
    You think ANYBODY at NBC even questioned the lack of credibility of a news station airing such content. Can ANYONE imagine the demographic and psychographic profiles of the audience continuous prison programming appeals to? Big spenders they? Reverting to that lock-up sh&t from regular programming amounts to a slap in the face for people they want to attract. They’d be better of doing C-SPAN type stuff or airing documentaries. MSNBC is plagued with stunted ratings and they certainly would not want to remedy it with pragmatic strategies…you know, the ones that work. Instead, they’ll do JUST enough of the programming they do to be considered “the left’s outlet” while NOT exposing their loyalty to their corporate masters/cronies.

  71. The commercials for Vaginal Mesh Injury Lawyers running back to back with the Viagra and Cialis commercials are driving me away. The regional advertising executives are going to kill this station.

    At least the constant catheter commercials have disappeared. For a while there it actually seemed painful to watch MSNBC. I almost called to sign up for free automatic monthly catheter delivery, fully covered by my Medicare Insurance, but then I remembered, I DON’T NEED THOSE!

  72. Turn off the TV. You won’t get anything off the tube that you can’t find on the Web.

    TV rating mean nothing, except to TV executives.

    Demand public places turn off their TVs. I’m so tired of the flickering talking heads, I hate to go out to dinner or to a bar.

    I’ve been working in TV since 1970. It’s time to stop worshiping the Idiot box.

  73. Dump Morning Joke- Mika is an embarrassment with her half-hearted progressive retorts.
    Bring back Keith Olbermann, please. Tell Sharpton that when his mic is ON; he doesn’t need to yell.
    Put on some NBC News. For the love of GOD, DUMP the prison & Camera lunacy!!! Nobody watches that bat guano.

  74. Rachel Maddow is not to be missed in my opinion. I also love Ed Schultz. He tells it like it is for the working “stiff”. Hayes is a brilliant informed host and does in depth discussions on relevant issues. Tired of Chris Matthews and his never letting anyone else finish a sentence. Enjoy MHP and UP. Would NOT watch Morning Joe if paid to do so. He belongs at Fox, and Mika is a poor example of a knowledgeable woman, putting up with Scarborough.
    Without Rachel and Ed, MSNBC loses me.

  75. MSNBC is my go to programming. What I like about most of the programming Maddox, Matthews, O’Donnell, Hayes, Sharpton, Ed, Alex Wagner is that they are all intelligent and make for great discussions! As a 70 year old, this includes the youth from the Cycle. Yes, there is a liberal bias, but there is NEVER any lies. Frequently I think they are harder on Dems than they are on Republicans because they don’t want to be accused of ‘liberal bias’. I actually like the Morning Joe program when Joe Scarborough is not present. He constantly interrupts. He is a rude host!!

    Comcast is making a mistake by ridding itself of these programs and there hosts!!

  76. It would help if there was a news of the day show in prime time followed by Maddow & Hayes & Shultz. It would help if they did not cover the exact same subjects also. However if msnbc starts acting like another corporate CNN ‘dumbed down news’ outlet, I am through with them. Thank god for on-line news, otherwise we liberals (and we are actually the majority) would have no one speaking truth to corporate power.

  77. We watch TRMS at 6; it repeats at 9. Does this mean that she could be on at 5 and 8? The 8 PM timeslot usually means I switch to ABC, NBC, or CBS. I can only take so much “news” before wanting TV to entertain me.

  78. Lose Joe, Andrea, The Cycle and the prison crap. Bring back Keith and move Ed to the 8:00 time slot. MSNBC is the only current place on tv to get the liberal point of view. I don’t give a crap about the conservative point of view. That is available on every other news channel and every radio talk channel.

  79. I escaped Morning Joe because of the bi-polar manic to depressive party line junk news only to find out that thread runs right thru most of their programming. CH 2 and 12 have at least 5 mins of news. MSNBCs dumb programming reduces knowledge of global affairs and deadens the senses.I nominate WSJ and NYT to run a program that’s just news in the morning without the OPRA layout.

  80. I am mostly a CNN and occasional fox viewer, but I would am open to progressive if it presented both sides. Another poster said like crossfire, that would be a good move.

    Drop that stupid azz prison crap, especially on easter and Christmas. I mean who wants to sit around the house on holidays with families and watch “locked up” crap? WTF

    Then we only have CNN, fox and network news to watch and debate with family.

  81. Kathleen,

    I’m not a fan of Joe, but having only one point of view stunts one’s intellectual growth and makes you unprepared for discussions. He is a RW nutty, but also presents the other sides wrong view, which I need to make a decision on an issue. Joe bullies Mika and it infuriates me to no end. What they need is a female beat down artist to level the playing field. Maybe morning joe will pick up. Joy Reid or Melissa Perry as co-host of MJ….that is something I would pay to see.

  82. I would LOVE to see Joe & Meka go AWAY!!!! I like Rachel, Chris Matthews and Melissa HP. I think Al Sharpton is too loud, Chris Hayes is just boring, Ed Schultz a little to self righteous. They need a real News show in the evening and the morning.

  83. My experience with MSNBC news was great in the past. But now, ever since the website changes, it has become a cat and mouse game trying to even view any host. Technically, the site is failing the users. And, the design is deliberately blocking / blacking out the advance browsing during any commercials. You are forced to watch immediate loud long commercials as soon as a host page opens. And now, we should sign in to view those loud commercials on top of all that. It is as though the GOP has control of the MSNBC website design deliberately sabotaging the users attempt to use the sight efficiently. I don’t know what others are experiencing, but I have shortened my efforts to use this site by 80 percent because of this inconsiderate website design. I enjoy ALL of the hosts, when I can view them. It is the site design, itself, that I believe has been shunning away it’s viewers. It’s not any of the hosts. Someone needs to research the real reason that MSNBC is failing. It’s all a sham.

  84. “The “in” thing now is to be a loud-mouth right-wing asshole and blame the president for everything-that’s how they make their money…”

    So in other words – opposite of the President’s party? Becuase you just described the left during the entire Bush years.

  85. Al Jazeera? Really? How would an Arab/Islamic news group better ‘serve’ an audience halfway across the globe? It’s like sheep just asking for the hammer!

  86. Sorry, no time for rolling loaded dice for a semantics game with a whiny smartass. My point still stands. Take it or leave it.

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