Fox News Anchor Debunks Fox’s Own Propaganda About Indiana Religious Freedom Law


Indiana’s religious freedom law has inspired so much backlash and outrage that Fox News anchor Bret Baier debunked his own network’s propaganda and misinformation.


Transcript via Media Matters:

ERIC SHAWN: You know, the law was intended to protect personal religious liberties against government overreach and intrusion. So what happened?

BAIER: Well, Indiana’s law is written a little differently. It is more broad. It is different than the federal law that it’s close to, but different than, and also different than 19 other states and how the law is written. In specific terms, Indiana’s law deals with a person who can claim religious persecution but that includes corporations, for-profit entities and it could also be used as a defense in a civil suit that does not involve the government. That is broader than the other laws. This is where it’s a little different in Indiana’s case. You saw governor Mike Pence try to defend the law and say it’s just like the 1993 federal law where it’s just like 19 other states, but as you look in the fine print, it’s not really, and it may be something that Indiana deals with in specifics to line up with the others.


SHAWN: Obviously, it had good intentions. What do you think happened to make it kind of go off the rails this way?

BAIER: Well, how it was structured, Eric. And I think that, you know, there may be good intentions behind it but how it’s being interpreted is being a little bit more forward leaning than any other Religious Freedom Restoration Act on the books. What this does politically, obviously Mike Pence has been talked about as a governor thinking about a 2016 run. We don’t know if he’s going to do it or not. But that interview with Stephanopoulos over the weekend was obviously not a great back and forth in defense of this law that likely is going to have to be at least tweaked, if not changed.

The issue is, as Baier pointed out, the Indiana law is not the same as the 1993 federal law. Indiana has given for profit businesses the Citizens United/Hobby Lobby treatment by making them people. The fact that a high profile personality like Baier is distancing himself from the Indiana law is indicative of what a self-created disaster the Indiana situation is turning into for Republicans.

If Indiana doesn’t repeal the law, it will become an issue for every 2016 Republican presidential candidate. The issue will go national, and it will have an impact on the 2016 election. Pence’s continued support for the law is straight out of the want to be the Republican nominee playbook. Scott Walker is running on busting unions in Wisconsin. Ted Cruz is running on shutting down the government over the Affordable Care Act. Gov. Pence has long been a rumored potential 2016 candidate, and it looks like he is using the ‘religious freedom’ bill as a platform for a potential campaign.

Pence’s interview on ABC’s This Week was a slow motion train wreck. The governor refused or dodged the most basic questions about the law. Pence sounded like a man who was trying to build a national brand on the basis of discrimination, but the backlash to his actions has been so severe that Pence’s presidential dreams have the capacity to cause serious damage to the Hoosier State.

27 Replies to “Fox News Anchor Debunks Fox’s Own Propaganda About Indiana Religious Freedom Law”

  1. Thanks for explaining the difference between Indiana’s law and the Federal law and those of the other 19 states.
    These folks (including cruz, Huckabee etc.) need to take a good long look at a Grandfather clock. When the pendulum swings too far in one direction, the clock stops functioning properly.

  2. Will this be the litmus test for all 2016 gop candidates? I can’t wait to hear what they come up with. Then again if it sounds like Pence’s excuse, someone needs to supply drugs for vertigo.

  3. America, anyone who gives any credibility to FOX NEWS for any reason, should be looked at themselves for being less than honest.Did any so-called legitimate journalist that works for FOX NEWS stand up and call Bill O’Reilly out for all the proven lies that he told and continues to tell? Not a one. no one that works for that disgusting network has any of my respect, not a drop. why would you want to associate yourself with something that FOUL???? That’s like saying I’m just a secretary for the KKK, I’m not involved in any of their other activities. Stop the Damn Charade!!!!! If you work for FOX you are agreeing to every VILE thing they do. END OF THE DISCUSSION!!!!!!!!

  4. ———-“Pence’s continued support for the law is straight out of the want to be the Republican nominee playbook. Scott Walker is running on busting unions in Wisconsin. Ted Cruz is running on shutting down the government over the Affordable Care Act. Gov. Pence has long been a rumored potential 2016 candidate, and it looks like he is using the ‘religious freedom’ bill as a platform for a potential campaign.”———
    QUESTION: What will Marco Rubio’s be? -Screw the illegals?- J. Bush’s? Screw Obama? Ben Carson’s? -Screw the Blacks AND Obama?- Wink ;) {{{Sarcasm}}} Rick Santorum’s? -I Agree with Pence, Down with the LGBT’s!-

  5. I cannot believe this is happening in my country that I love so dearly. maybe we should allow some states to secede from the union and take care of themselves. this rightwing and conservative behavior is reprehensible and outrageous. I was planning a family vacation to Indiana in the beginning of May but I have canceled those reservations and will be vacationing elsewhere. this is really a travesty and all of us who know this is wrong have to push back hard and be just as vocal and obsessed as the haters themselves or they will keep bullying and their cycle of hate will never end. what a sad thing for America.

  6. What is indiana going to do when Apple releases a statement that they are closing all stores in that state?
    Make no mistake, the thugs are already trying out sound bites and party platforms for 2016. Witness the thug commentator cupp (future 2016 candidate staffer or just silent sound bite source?) on Real Time Friday. She was TOTALLY sending up trial balloons, testing out 2016 candidate answers. Yup. We are supposed to ignore how the middle east got to the F*CKED up state it is currently in and WHO took us there because… well… that was in the past. We are supposed to let them have a pass. “You’re pregnant and the baby is coming and we keep arguing about how we got pregnant.”
    You’re got dammm right we do. FU cheeny.

  7. What does healthcare has to with religious freedom? Now I am all for culling the herd but I could never understand this idiocy

  8. Race should be the only protected class. A business owner puts his own money into his business. He or she should be able to deny service to anyone except for race. The business does not belong to the consumers.

  9. Religious laws by any name are religious laws. It’s called hypocrisy. They go ballistic when a conspiracy theorist claims some city or state is going to allow Sharia Law to be followed, while at the same time pushing for Biblical Law themselves. The funny thing is, they don’t see the problem with that.

  10. Business cannot exist without customers. If a business owner can’t understand this, then their business deserves to fail.

  11. Hobby Lobby or RFLs, hate perpetration through
    devine design. Does 911 connect ya to the
    karma police? “I’m just a soul who’s intentions
    are good. Oh lord, please don’t let me be mis-
    understood”. Gov. Pence, The Animals beat ya
    to those lyrics fifty years ago.[WINK]

  12. baytown, my tax dollars in Indiana pay for the roads, infrastructure, fire dept, police dept, etc. that ENABLE business owners to make their living.

    NO ONE, including LGBTs should be excluded. Don’t you “get” that?

  13. That was criminal what they’ve done to Ms Patel. Yes, the roaches (Republican Collective) are mentally twisted and so are their peabrained, dumbassed voters. Miscarraige sends a woman to prison for 70 years? These people have no qualifying skills to hold public office.

  14. Thom, I watched that too. S.E. Cup is an incredibly ignorant child. (I wonder what the “S.E.” Stands for?) she consistently makes a total fool of herself, with every appearance she makes. I don’t understand what the attraction is to invite this grinning, brainless idiot on Maher’s show. Thank goodness Barney Frank was there to smack her down and shut her up.

    Do you notice that whenever a rightwing woman appears on any show, they always seem to sit there with a fool’s smile on their faces, or is it just me?

  15. Clearly, the passage of the ACA — and its success — has ZERO to do with this disgusting law in my state.

    Mike Pence is grasping at every last straw he can think of. It’s so embarrassing to be a Hoosier right now. I attended a pretty good rally yesterday — we marched quite a distance to our Courthouse , with a thousand cars honking to support our mission. My city is one of only four cities in Indiana who have a non-discrimination law concerning LGBTs, but this new law has awakened a sleeping giant.

    To the rest of the country — thank you for supporting us, and please keep up the boycott until the GOP arseholes in Indianapolis repeal this law.

    BTW, I’m a straight woman, the widow of an esteemed attorney; I have never missed voting in an election since my 18th birthday, but I fully admit that in my state, I’m surrounded by people who can hardly think in a reasoned, logical way. Thank goodness there is such a huge backlash — KEEP BOYCOTTING!

  16. Pence described the media coverage and opposition to the law as “shameless rhetoric,” saying it strengthens the foundation of First Amendment rights rather than discriminates.

    Our Declaration of Independence recognizes that we are endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among those are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. There is no liberty or pursuit of happiness for a person(s) being discriminated against.

    The 14th Amendment of our Constitution is clear when it says, “nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any persons within it’s jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

    *Third Article:That in article 2nd, section 9, between clauses 3 and 4, be inserted these clauses, to wit, The civil rights of none shall be abridged on account of religious belief or worship, nor shall any national religion be established, nor shall the full and equal rights of conscience by in any m…

  17. That is so wrong Baytown. When he/she decided to go into a business where there would be ‘customers’ he/she knew there would be customers. And now the customer must be served. It is, after all, a ‘service’ business that he/she set up, willingly and knowingly. I was in the motel business. I knew some of my customers were not married, of a different religion, gender bias, etc. But I served them. Is the money of those you do not approve of not valid US currency to be used to pay your bills? Will those who wrote this law come and bail you out when you default on your mortgage because you turned away those customers you said you would serve when you set up your service business? Justifying your bias and bigotry on the grounds that your money set up the business is ridiculous. If you do not want to serve every one, set up a different business, where your bias will not be challenged (perhaps mail order?) OH, wait, you can tell what they are by the name and address, can’t you?

  18. Why should race be the only protected group? Instances of institutions and individuals claiming a right to discriminate in the name of religion aren’t new. In the 1960s, we saw institutions object to laws requiring integration in restaurants because of sincerely held beliefs that God wanted the races to be separate. Now we have the same religious excuses for not serving the LGBT community, and other instances of pharmacies refusing to fill women’s contraception prescriptions.

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