TPP On The Fast Track To Failure As Opposition To The Bill Remains United

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House Republicans have been trying to gather votes for weeks, but they remain at least 20 supporters short of the number needed to pass a bill that would give President Obama fast track trade authority.

According to Politico:

Congressional sources say that fewer than 20 House Democrats currently back giving President Barack Obama increased powers to cut trade deals — a top priority of the White House and the business lobby. And with Senate Democrats vowing to stall consideration of Obama’s request for fast-track trade authority possibly for weeks, Republicans in both chambers face a high hurdle to get the measure through Congress.

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Nonetheless, the Senate is expected to eventually approve the so-called trade promotion authority bill — which would allow Obama to submit unamendable trade deals to Congress for up-or-down votes — whenever it comes up for a final vote. The bigger drama may turn out to be in the House, where the overwhelming majority of Democrats and a large contingent of Republicans oppose the measure.

Passage of the bill there will put pressure on House GOP leadership to schedule a quick vote, even though congressional sources predict supporters in the House need at least 20 more votes to pass the legislation.

At least 60 House Republicans are expected to vote against the TPA (Trade Promotion Authority) bill. Boehner and President Obama would need at least 30 House Democrats to negate the Republican opposition, and so far, they are far short of their goal.

Liberals are solid in their opposition to the bill, and they are being joined by Republicans who don’t want to give the President any additional executive authority.

The situation is further complicated by the fact that Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) is urging his Democrats to block consideration of the bill until after NSA and transportation bills are dealt with. If Reid is successful tomorrow, it will give TPA and TPP opponents an additional month to mobilize support.

What is clear is that the opposition to TPP remains solidly unified. It is looking like Boehner, McConnell, and Obama are in for a long and difficult fight over TPP.

35 Replies to “TPP On The Fast Track To Failure As Opposition To The Bill Remains United”

  1. OT – where did all the trolls go? Did the Fox news thread scare them away?

    Robert, come back and stick up for your candidate “J. Warren” from your troll note cut and paste talking points.

  2. Yep, concur. I found that site a while back and found it very educational too. Thanks for bringing it to this thread. The three part series and the articles are good.

    It is not a tool but people are using it as such and making it a wedge issue.

    Funny, that. How about the opposition waits to see if this dog has fleas?

  3. What? You mean that taking positions on a topic before there is solid information is stupid?

    But. But. Elizabeth Warren is Christ reborn! She can do no wrong right?

  4. I respect your views.

    But the fact of the matter- Republicans Like it.

    That.

    And that ALONE scares the hell out of me.

  5. Brilliant argument ! NOT
    Obama is for it and many Republicans are for it-soooo confusing for you since you have been for EVERYTHING The Messiah wanted automatically the last 6 years !!!

  6. The Messiah? And you wonder why I call you a dumbass. BTW IDIOT the only people who claim that god talks to them are republicans starting with the Cuban ted cruz who according to his father is the anointed one. Your idiocy is getting on my last nerve

  7. She was a Republican for 50 years. If that doesn’t make a person wonder about her judgment, I don’t know what does.

    I like her. She speaks brilliantly on the issue of banking. I laughed when they pushed for her as president, she doesn’t have the breadth for that, yet. But to attack solid long term dem heroes for her, not a good bet.

  8. Moon, absolutely agree on that point.

    I kept saying, whaaaaaaaaaat, wait a minute!

    Also, I had a union family upbringing and was union for many years. I know when Trumpka gets that riled up there is a problem he is out to stomp on.

    But, that said, there isn’t so far any reason to bang our drums. YET.

  9. I have to say after hearing all the negative reporting on TPP it scares the crap out of me. You read about all the economist against this deal and makes me feel helpless. I should no better but they sound so convincing.

  10. Liberals such as those on this site are mesmerized by Obama’s soaring rhetoric, which proved to be just that. Kinda makes one feel dumb, doesn’t it?

  11. My opinion is that the TTP will be a bad deal for American workers. I can’t back that up with facts because I don’t think anybody even knows the details of the deal. I don’t even think they have been worked out yet! But they want it voted on now anyway. It’s another one of those “You’ll have to pass the bill to see what’s in it” events. Haven’t all international trade deals ended up with us on the short end of the stick?

  12. Congress has access but each of them must go to a room, no notes allowed, to view it.

    And other countries have the same type top level only – till it is completed.

    The reason for the secrecy is each nation has separate deals. If xyz wants what abc has and wants to negotiate for something else, etc. Each part is kept from each other nation. If it gets out, and the press print it, then it is all over.

    Also they don’t want a half baked deal coming out when they are pushing for other results in the final package.

    Both sides are having trouble raising support so it is likely very complicated and perhaps has controversial facets.

    So far, we know diddly. All spin.

  13. Don’t care, really. When the TPP fails, Elizabeth Warren will take all the credit, and her minions will think she’s “all that.” Elizabeth Warren is using the TPP to pilfer money out of the “Draft Warren” rubes. But, Hillary Clinton will still be the democratic nominee, anyway. Oops.

  14. So I guess I Warren, Sanders, Brown will be very grateful that we get to keep NAFTA with no environmental protections, low wages and no way to fairly sell “made in the USA” products. Guess they love all that cheap crap that’s made in China.

  15. jimmyk, that’s the sanest thing you’ve posted yet! I agree…a person can’t be for or against something if the details aren’t known.

    We should wait until all countries involved with the TPP negotiations have been finalized.

    Congress will still get 90 days to make it public and an additional 120 days (if this TPA is approved by Congess) to vote on it.

    That’s seven months – four months more than any other president has been required to give Congress in the past.

  16. Not only that, Sabreen, but it appears as if Trumka’s AFL-CIO is against the U.S. Gov’t actually going after the murderers of those 108 union members in Guatemala, although Trumka is wailing that this Administration isn’t doing more than “diplomacy” in addressing these heinous crimes.

    Um…apparently, Trumka hadn’t read CAFTA. Countries part of CAFTA are tasked with enforcing violations of provisions of CAFTA within their own countries. No country outside can do it. The U.S. is hamstrung and only allowed to do exactly what Trumka is wailing about: file a diplomatic protest, and the U.S. has done that.

    This is why we need a strong TPP – one with teeth that will give other countries the power to hold those countries to serious account should they violate trade provisions and workers within their own country.

  17. Good read. Pros and cons and misinformation on both sides of the argument.

    Reason 9 is not very well thought out. The up or down vote is imperative since all our congress critters would add a piece of the pie to their states and there would be domestic projects in various states added.

    The international pact cannot be presented as a deal to foreign countries and then have a last minute world wide negotiation for a pig farm in Iowa.

    Up or down gives them the “no deal” ultimate power.

  18. dj-I just saw the first two major categories of “accomplishments”
    1)Fiscal responsibility-lol-$+8 TRILLION fed debt under Obama. Est. 159 Billion waste and fraud in govt. agencies. annually.
    2) Prevented Bush Depression-lol-TARP; Troubled Asset Relief Program passed under Bush. Recession ended 3/09, well before Obama even started to piss away that Trillion dollars of stimulus money. Sorry to let facts get in the way. Obama has been an absolute Fricken disaster and history will show that to be truthful.

  19. Dumbass that debt is because of paying off you dumbasses war of choice which bush didn’t pay for;

    Did the Stimulus Create Jobs?

    Yes, the stimulus legislation increased employment, despite false Republican claims to the contrary.
    http://www.factcheck.org/2010/09/did-the-stimulus-create-jobs/

    The stimulus could have done more good had it been bigger and more carefully constructed. But put simply, it prevented a second recession that could have turned into a depression. It created or saved an average of 1.6 million jobs a year for four years. (There are the jobs, Mr. Boehner.) It raised the nation’s economic output by 2 to 3 percent from 2009 to 2011. It prevented a significant increase in poverty — without it, 5.3 million additional people would have become poor in 2010
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/23/opinion/sunday/what-the-stimulus-accomplished.html?_r=0

    According to the U.S. National Bureau of Economic Research (the official arbiter of U.S. recessions) the US recession began in December 2007 and ended in June 2009, and thus extended over 18 months.

    The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (ARRA) (Pub.L. 111–5), commonly referred to as the Stimulus or The Recovery Act, was an economic stimulus package enacted by the 111th United States Congress in February 2009 and signed into law on February 17, 2009, by President Barack Obama.

    So the recession ended in June but the stimulus was passed in Feb. Cause and effect?

    Go play somewhere else little boy, you way over your head on here

  20. Dumbass, you really think they did not pay any war expenses while Bush was in office. They deferred them until the next Pres. LOL !!!!
    Obama has had the worst recovery from a recession since the 30’s. Thanks Obama and Obama lover’s.

  21. NEW YORK — To pay for World War II, Americans bought savings bonds and put extra notches in their belts. President Harry Truman raised taxes and cut nonmilitary spending to pay for the Korean conflict. During Vietnam, the US raised taxes but still watched deficits soar.

    But to pay for the ongoing wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the US has used its credit card, counting on the Chinese and other foreign buyers of its debt to pay the bills.
    http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0116/p01s01-usfp.html

    You are just plain stupid or ignorant take your pick

  22. The fact that republicons want this bill to pass so bad is a sure sign that it will hurt the American middle/ working class.
    Talk about a red flag!

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