What to Take from Her Firing by HP: Anyone Will Be Better than Carly Fiorina

Let’s forget for a minute a Carly Fiorina who pretends to be a job creator when she is the woman who fired 18,000 people while running Hewlett-Packard. Let’s look at her stance on global warming, which is as meaningless a stance as her stance on job creation. It’s no wonder Fiorina’s numbers are rising among Republicans. They love this sort of thing.

So let’s look at some dirt – I mean “clean coal” – on Fiorina: Back in May, at the start of her campaign, Carly Fiorina was asked by Katie Couric if she thought global warming was a serious issue.

Fiorina answered that “I think it’s an issue. I think we ought to be focusing our time, energy and resources on innovations. We need to keep it in perspective.” Pressed by Couric, she said that far more dangerous is “The fact our government is a vast, bloated, unaccountable, corrupt bureaucracy.”

Couric: What’s your position on global warming?

Fiorina: Well, you know I think we have to read all of the fine print, so every one of the scientists who tell us that climate change is real and being caused by man-made activity, also tell us that a single nation acting alone can make no difference at all. So when I see a state like California destroy lives and livelihoods with environmental regulations that will make no difference at all to climate change, when I see the Obama administration take that same regulation and apply it nationally – it will make no differ at all, and yet we’re destroying peoples’ lives and livelihoods. I wonder why are we doing this. Why are we doing this when it won’t have any impact, so I think the answer to this problem is innovation not regulation. But I must say it angers me when liberals say I’m prepared for you to lose your job in the name of sending a signal to whom? China? In fact, China is delighted that we are not spending any time or energy figuring out clean coal because they’re going to go do it.”

Couric: So ideally what should be done, what could be done to attack this issue?

Fiorina: Well I think we have to focus on innovation. You have to focus on innovation. So we have to focus on how to make coal cleaner. Look, coal provides half the energy in this nation still, not to mention around the world, so to say we’re going to basically outlaw coal, which is what this innovation has done, is so self-defeating. It destroys jobs, it destroys communities, it’s not helping us and it’s not helping global warming so let’s get on with innovation about how to make sure that we actually have clean coal technology. The Chinese will do it if we don’t.”

Fiorina insisted we have to tell people the truth about the science. The only problem is that she said this after telling Americans a whole bunch of lies about the science.

It is, for example, far from the truth to say that the United States is the only country combating global warming. Many countries are engaged in the war to save our planet, and some of them are doing much more than Americans are (Germany, Brazil, Denmark, and China come to mind). To say efforts in California have no meaning is a complete fabrication.

And China and clean coal? Actually, as CBCNews told us last year, China “has the highest installed wind-energy capacity and is among the leading producers of solar panels.” Sorry, Carly.

Fiorina is saying that since we can’t do anything, we shouldn’t do anything at all. She wants to absolutely nothing about global warming but chase the chimera of “clean coal” when, as Dan Becker, director of the Sierra Club’s Global Warming and Energy Program, said over a decade ago, “There is no such thing as clean coal and there never will be. It’s an oxymoron.”

We didn’t have clean coal then. We don’t have clean coal now. We’re never going to have clean coal because coal is dirty. And Republicans won’t let us even attack the emissions, so basically, when Fiorina talks about innovation, what Fiorina is really talking about is maintenance of the status quo: let’s keep polluting.

As Heather Taylor-Miesle, the Director, NRDC Action Fund wrote at Huffington Post in 2012, when she looked at the record of what Fiorina calls “innovation” with regards clean coal,

“I see politicians who want to ensure that coal never has to get cleaner…Senator Inhofe gets his way, mercury at these power plants would spew forth into our families and our environment, without limits, forever.” Without regulation requiring change – regulations Fiorina and other Republicans vehemently oppose – there will be no change.

And that’s what Fiorina wants, a solution based on a false premise: We can’t do anything anyway, so let’s party like it’s 1999.

If lying about the Obama administration’s approach to coal wasn’t enough, Fiorina then went on to attack wind turbines as being responsible for killing millions of birds, and solar energy, which “requires water” and how there isn’t water in a lot of regions. In fact, solar requires very little water. And to use Fiorina’s logic, we should do away with coal power, because even by the most pessimistic estimates, coal uses more water than any other energy source, including solar. And, you know, some regions just don’t have water.

Basically, Fiorina embraces the Republican approach to all our world’s problems: We can’t do anything about the things we need to do something about, so let’s invent a some problems do a bunch of stuff about things that we don’t really need to worry about.

Couric is to be lauded for talking about global warming as a done deal repeatedly throughout the interview. However, to fail to challenge Fiorina on even basic facts is inexcusable.

Asked by Katie Couric if she thinks global warming is a serious issue, Carly Fiorina showed why she was fired by Hewlett-Packard: a complete lack of mastery of the facts. Or rather, the embrace of a bunch of talking points that have no relationship at all to the truth. Of course, you won’t find the media pointing out her firing. They prefer to cite her time there as valuable experience.

Go figure the mainstream media’s take from this interview is that Couric was sexist when she asked Fiorina about running for vice president, you know, because she’s a woman. Where was the outrage over Fiorina’s lies about the environment and our ability to do anything about global warming?

The problem with Fiorina is that she comes across as reasonable. But no matter how soft-spoken and reasonable-sounding is her approach to questions, if you compare her to Donald Trump, you see that she is working from the same knowledge base. That is, no knowledge at all, but rather wishful thinking. Like the House of Representatives, a lot of talk and no action.

“I think it is frankly ridiculous for the Obama administration to call ISIS a strategic distraction, and then go on to say that climate change is the single most pressing national security issue of our time,” Fiorina lamented.

ISIL is a strategic distraction compared to having breathable air, drinkable water, and eatable food. And let’s not even mention – forget that, let’s mention the paradox of the anti-big government Fiorina wanting a government big enough to police the world while ignoring the basic necessities of life for all the billions on this planet.

That sort of short-sighted thinking is what gets people fired. Robert Cihra, an analyst with Fulcrum Global Partners analyzed her firing by saying that, “The Street had lost all faith in her and the market’s hope is that anyone will be better.”

To use Donald Trump’s language, Fiorina was a disaster. And that should be the epithet to any talk of a Carly Fiorina presidency: “Anyone will be better.”

25 Replies to “What to Take from Her Firing by HP: Anyone Will Be Better than Carly Fiorina”

  1. I think media definitely is mostly hands off with her, right now. She is the repug token as a rebuttal to Hillary. Her message is all attack mode, nothing positive or forward looking. She comes across as a tiresome harpie.

    Classical Mythology. a ravenous, filthy monster having a woman’s head and a bird’s body.
    (lowercase) a scolding, nagging, bad-tempered woman; shrew.
    (lowercase) a greedy, predatory person.

  2. No, I don’t want to see her in the White House at all, but such is the Republican field that we *could* do worse.

  3. I keep writing about Carly’s business ‘experience’ at HP…

    she took a well respected, iconic, Silicon Valley company and trashed it by making really bad ‘business’ decisions…

    “I have a dual-column gas chromatograph, Hewlett-Packard model 5710a with flame analyzing detectors.” The D.A. quipped, “Does that thing come turbo-charged?” and the witness answered, “Only on the floor models.”
    ~~My Cousin Vinny~~~

    Ms Fiorina spun off the instrumentation portion of HP and decided it was a good idea to buy Compaq in order to compete with Dell and other computer manufacturers…

    it was pretty clear at the time that computers were well on the way to becoming commodity items with low profit margins…

    not only was this a bad business decision it shows a pretty limited understanding of technology…

    vote Carly… vote continued psuedo-science…

  4. I’m not sure I agree that anyone would be better than Fiorina. Yes, she’s bad enough to be permanently disqualified from ever holding any elected office, much less the Presidency, but is she really worse than the theocratic Santorum, Perry, Huckabee, or Cruz, whose answer to global warming is praying to some deity who’s never given them–or anyone else–a single stitch of objective evidence as to his/her/its/their existence? I consider all 150, or whatever, rethuglican candidates to be equally bad; they simply don’t live in the real world, and they want to take us down with them.

  5. Lucent. She totally destroyed that company first with a pump-and-dump phony sales scheme. Lying.
    Even more jobs were lost than with HP and investors lost million$.

    That’s the Republican way, though. Rewarding failure.

  6. I for one would love to see Fiorina get the repug nom. I don’t think see would end up with 40% of the vote. But we are talking about repugs. She’ll be lucky to end up a a VP pick at best. The best part of her record was the spying on employees while she was CEO. Talk about paranoid.

  7. …what I got from listening to her was:
    1}She called Clinton a liar on everything…
    2}She denied calling Clinton a liar…
    3}She boasted about working at HP…
    4}She lied about why she got fired…
    5}Got massive headache…
    6}now nauseous, gonna lie down now…

  8. I have lived long enough to recognize “fear and propaganda” when it is thrown in all directions. In fact the more it is spread the obvious ii becomes known for what it is.In the Case of Fiorina, the fact that anyone believes she”alone” wrecked HP as well as firing thousands is absolutely childish. We as individuals need to do our own research, review and then decide wherein lies the truth or we will continue our path into self-destruction. The old boy network, the hip-hip hooray bashing of people without facts needs to stop. PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  9. I hear those talking points a lot from the rethugs……”well, if other countries are doing it, why should we?” Isn’t that so childish. It reminds me of a small child saying, “well, if Johney doesn’t brush his teeth, then I’m not either!”

  10. when you pick and choose the ‘facts’ you want to believe then there is NO presentation of facts that aren’t going to upset you…

    Ms Fiorina’s trashing of an iconic company is well documented…

  11. They are just going to continue propping her up so they can claim they are not-anti-woman. Right.

  12. We know of Carly’s terrible Business Performance. Now read of her awful “Personal Performance”:

    ‘White House hopeful Carly Fiorina’s claims of motherhood and ‘secretary to CEO’ rise to the top come under fire as ex-husband ridicules her as ‘calculating’ and tragic’

    She’s worse than Palin…She’s EVIL!


  13. A friend who worked at HP for years stayed all that time because “it was a special place to work.” He left a year or two after the Compaq merger, during which he worked with Carly directly, saying, “After this merger HP is ‘just another company.'”

    I would rather not see her do the same thing to this country which, despite its many shortcomings, is still “a special place to live.”

  14. My dad always bought HP printers: They had the best software, & they were reliable & printed well, now I’ve got a buncha HP printers from Carly’s time at HP, & they stink. The software is crap, huge, unwieldy, & the printers refuse to actually print anything other than test pages…I will say though, having 3 HP/Compaq desktops, they really work very well, considering I built them up out of parts for about 100 bucks.

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