Progressive Pope Endorses Christian Criminals Who Violate Law And Constitution

Pope Same-Sex Marriage
Conscience is defined as a human being’s inner sense of what is right or wrong in one’s conduct or motives that are supposed to impel one to action. After seven days in America touting his “Jesus” credentials, such as preaching to care for the poor and the environment they are suffering in, Pope Francis likely departed for the Vatican with a clear conscience. He certainly worked tirelessly to endear himself to Americans, and to an extent he succeeded in fooling even some non-Catholics and atheists that he is a truly progressive Pontiff. However, one wonders how he has a clean conscience when he promoted and endorsed Americans who blatantly violate the U.S. Constitution, abuse Americans’ civil rights, and break the law according to the dictates of their criminal conscience.

The Pope was asked on the flight back to the Vatican, “Do you support those individuals, including government officials, who say they cannot in good conscience, their own personal conscience, abide by some laws or discharge their duties as government officials when issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples?

The Pope replied saying:

Yes, I can say that conscientious objection is a right that is a part of every human right. It is a right. And if a person does not allow others to be a conscientious objector, he denies a right.”

So there it is; because the United States Constitution, and U.S. Supreme Court, guarantees all Americans have equal rights, holding a violator accountable is “denying their right” in yet another dirty “Christian persecution” ploy; this time from Progressive Pope Francis.

Here is the issue about conscience, though, that Francis likely did not consider; the majority, if not all, of the atrocities committed on humanity were, and are, driven by conscience; that inner sense of what is right and wrong. Kim Davis believes in her black heart that violating court orders and the Constitution by single-handedly disallowing same-sex couples their 14th Amendment rights is the right thing to do according to her conscience. However, using the “conscience argument” goes both ways and glorifies all manner of outrages. When extremists in ISIL slaughter innocent Muslims and  Christians, it is  according to their deeply held inner sense of what is right according to their conscience. It is no different with the ultra-rich and corporations that force hundreds of millions into poverty and hoard trillions of dollars out of sheer ungodly greed; it is the true and right thing to do according to their deeply held consciences.

Obviously the Koch brothers and their various oil, mining, and general energy industry cohort exacerbate climate change and block any and every government effort to protect the environment and the climate according to that “inner sense” of what is right according to their consciences. Catholic priests who sexually abuse little children, not because they enjoy destroying young lives but because of their conscience, are apparently compelled to do so according to their “inner sense of what is right and wrong.” Perhaps it is because they sexually abused children according to their priestly consciences that the Vatican has not brought in law enforcement to put a stop to priestly pedophilia.

It is also true that the American border patrol agent who shot a Mexican child 10 times for target practice while the boy was standing on the Mexican side of the border was acting according to his “conscience” that drove him to believe shooting Mexican children was right according to that “inner sense.”  Although the border patrol agent was finally indicted for murder, the Pope thinks he should be “allowed” to violate the law and take an innocent human life. According to the Pope, the agent’s “rights were denied” because he acted according to conscience. However, here is the one monumental problem with the Pope’s advice to break the law according to one’s conscience; it is a gross violation of god’s law.

In the Holy Father’s bible, that rule book containing every single one of god’s utterances, it plainly says to obey the government authorities, period. It gives nobody a pass if obeying the government bothers one’s conscience; it is a passage the Pontiff surely may have read at some juncture during his rise to the “Vicar of Christ” designation that makes him the uncontested leader of 1.2 billion Catholic devotees worldwide.

It is likely that the Pope is a lot closer to teabaggers, climate deniers, anti-immigrant hate-mongers and trickle down advocates devoted to America’s bastardized version of Christianity than a true follower of Christ and ardent bible adherent.  Otherwise, he would have never suggested “allowing” conscientious objectors free rein to violate the U.S. Constitution, or federal court orders,  much less condemn the authorities for holding them accountable for disobeying the government. Of course the Pope is well-versed in Catholic dogmata such as the truly tyrannical Humanae Vitae, but according to Judeo-Christian dogma, god wrote the Christian bible and a man, another pope, created did the Humanae Vitae. That document the Pope has seemingly elevated over “every utterance from god’s lips” in the so-called Holy Scriptures.

It may be true that America’s evangelical malcontents have never read one word of their rule book, the Christian bible, but it is almost certainly true that Pope Francis has at least a passing remembrance of his almighty  god’s commandments in Romans 13: verses 1 – 7 where it says:

Everyone must submit to governing authorities. For all authority comes from God, and those in positions of authority have been placed there by God.  So anyone who rebels against authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and they will be punished. The authorities are God’s servants, sent for your good. But if you are doing wrong, of course you should be afraid, for they have the power to punish you. They are God’s servants, sent for the very purpose of punishing those who do what is wrong.  So you must submit to them, not only to avoid punishment, but also to keep a clear conscience. Pay your taxes, too, for these same reasons. For government workers need to be paid. They are serving God in what they do. Give to everyone what you owe them: Pay your taxes and government fees to those who collect them, and give respect and honor to those who are in authority.”

That simple passage is anathema to evangelical fundamentalists, theocratic legislators, anti-gay county clerks and apparently it is abhorrent to Pope Francis. What is particularly telling is that when the subject of same-sex marriage, or homosexuality for that matter, comes up, Mr. Progressive Pope reverts to archaic church dogma that has no foundation in the bible. It is true people can have their beliefs and consciences, and Old Testament mean-god condemned “male homosexuality,” but nowhere in that Christian bible is it the Pope’s, evangelical Republicans’, or Kim Davis’ job to judge or regulate anyone according to their stinking conscience; if one believes the bible, that purview is solely god almighty’s.

Still, this Pope, “Mr. Holy Progressive,” continues talking out of both sides of his mouth. On one hand he said “who am I to judge gays?” And then he promptly rejects an openly gay high-ranking diplomat chosen to represent France in the Vatican simply because he is gay. Within a month of that “Jesus Christ-like” loving determination, based on his Christian conscience, the official Papal response to Ireland voting to legalize same-sex marriage was that it was the “defeat of humanity,” and Catholics were officially ordered not to attend those weddings.

For seven days, Pope Francis actually appeared that he was a progressive Pontiff; although he never ever said one word that another Christian, President Barack Obama, has not been preaching ad nauseam over six years he has been in office. What is unacceptable though, is that Pope Francis dares parrot the President of the United States on climate change, income inequality, immigration, and unbridled trickle-down economics and then encourages American evangelicals to blatantly violate the U.S. Constitution and court orders based on their dirty consciences.

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42 Replies to “Progressive Pope Endorses Christian Criminals Who Violate Law And Constitution”

  1. …the Pope believes in the screed o’ long dead Popes far more than the teachings o’ Jesus Christ it seems…

  2. Everyone is entitled to their own moral objections. That does not entitle them to ignore their constitutional duties. They are free to disagree and resign.

    I’m sure many would make Kim Davis a political pseudo-martyr if she resigned and Faux Snooze would hire her immediately.

  3. Kim Davis was jailed because she refused to allow others to do her job because her name was on the certificate.

    She is back at work, and marriage certificatesare being issued by others.

    She was allowed her right to refuse to do the job, she was Not allowed to force others to refuse the certificates.

  4. the question I’ve asked a lot lately…

    is his copy a signed first edition and if it is can we see it to verify the signature?

    an aside… is anyone else missing the like/dislike buttons?

  5. You want Flavius Valerius Constantinus’ autograph? (AD ca. 285 – AD 337; Emperor of Rome AD 306-337; aka: Constantine the Great).

  6. I like Pope Francis HOWEVER! He’s NOT correct in everything. It seems that part of his views are WAY! WAY! behind the times and goes against common sense.

  7. Thank you Rmuse for that quote from the Bible. Todays Christians seem to believe this book of rule is only for others, not themselves.
    Even the Pope, it looks like.

  8. “…the majority… of the atrocities committed on humanity were, and are, driven by conscience…”

    Exactly right!

  9. It’s the occasional article like this one that is making it tempting to stop reading Politicususa. Sloppy sloppy reporting. Lazy thinking. The author took a couple sentences the pope uttered and then extrapolated it to every anti-Jesus issue in the country. To be clear: The Pope said there is room for conscientious objection. Do we really disagree? Don’t Quakers use that so they don’t go to war? Isn’t that what the compromise on birth control coverage in the ACA for Catholic corporations does? Isn’t that what the judge suggested for Kim Davis, telling her she didn’t have to issue the gay marriage licenses, she just had to allow others in her office do so? Getting tired of the false outrage passing for articles. Do your homework and research the facts.

  10. 1. Quakers don’t take an oath of office and then refuse to do their duties.
    2. Again that’s a false equivalency. No one takes an oath to obtain health insurance and the issue is still working its way through the courts
    .The ACA birth-control controversy, made simple
    http://www.scotusblog.com/2015/07/the-aca-birth-control-controversy-made-simple/

    3. She is still imposing her beliefs over what the judge ordered
    Kim Davis may have invalidated marriage license forms, deputy clerk says
    http://kfor.com/2015/09/20/kim-davis-may-have-invalidated-marriage-license-forms-deputy-clerk-says/

    Now you go sit down and do some research

  11. The Path of Jesus has been irrelevant to Christians ever since they realized His story could be pimped for coin and power.

  12. Ok Kim, if YOU think you can write a more “factual” or “researched” article then have at it! Otherwise go elsewhere where they not only DENY facts but FABRICATE their own “facts”..you know like Fox News online or any of the other online lie-fests put out by the Reich Wing.

  13. Christian criminals? There’s no such thing. Christians are not criminals, but criminals can try to disobey the law and themselves in Christianity. You know, like Republicans, white supremacists, all terrorists organizations…

  14. The Pope is more progressive than most modern Popes but he’s still a Christian zealot who believes that Christianity has the answer to everything. In that sense he’s no different than the Muslim fanatics in the Middle East.

  15. Damn that smarts Remuse. This must be what raking someone over the coals means. Rebelling against authority has to be one of the most basic of Revolutionary tactics used to establish constitutional rule with government by the people. What does the Pope, or even gospel have to do with it? Not much about taxes on tea today, that makes me want to submit/confront with any governmental or religious power with supposed authority over me. Conscientious objectors don’t have a higher power commanding them to piety and reform, they have a moral center where they come to terms with their own values–and any supernatural notion by the Pope or biblical interpretation having acted on them is a cop out. She has no conscientious objection to taking the money without working for it, so who cares if she aligns with any other religious sentiment.

  16. Who cares if the Pope supports Americans’ protest political movements, if he starts selling Vatican art to support the poor, I’ll take him as coming to terms with the values he preaches.

  17. Acts 5:27-29:
    27 And when they had brought them, they set them before the council. And the high priest questioned them, 28 saying, “We strictly charged you not to teach in this name, yet here you have filled Jerusalem with your teaching, and you intend to bring this man’s blood upon us.” 29 But Peter and the apostles answered, “WE MUST OBEY GOD RATHER THAN MEN”.

  18. Rmuse you are guilty of Fox News style of “journalism” because the Pope did not endorse the actions you imply. He said, and I agree with him, that the right of conscientious objection is a human right. He did NOT say that objection allowed the objector to foist their objection onto others OR use their office to do the same.

    You are either GUILTY of lazy thinking or click baiting. Either way up your game if you want to be taken seriously!

  19. Pope Francis, no matter how progressive, is still the head of a dominant radical organization. He’s no better than all the other bible thumpers that twist religion, to the oppressive submission of others. Glad we abide by sensible U.S. law.

  20. You can be a conscientious objector all you want but when you swear an oath to the government that shit goes out the window.
    But Jesus called them to him and said, you know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their great ones exercise authority over them. 26 it shall not be so among you. But whoever would be great among you must be your servant,3 27 and whoever would be first among you must be your slave,4 28 even as the Son of Man came not to be served but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.”
    Matthew 20:25–28

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  21. Because Francis has been talking about corporate greed, the environment, wealth inequality, and other issues dear to liberals’ hearts, they’ve made the mistake of thinking that he’s a liberal and will soon be officiating gay weddings and providing abortion services in the Vatican. The reality is that Francis is merely emphasizing different aspects of standard Catholic dogma than we’re used to hearing. He is as far from being a liberal as his predecessors were.

  22. “It is likely that the Pope is a lot closer to teabaggers, climate deniers, anti-immigrant hate-mongers and trickle down advocates devoted to America’s bastardized version of Christianity than a true follower of Christ and ardent bible adherent.”

    Obviously, you have hearing problems, having listened to not one word the man has been saying, nor have you been paying attention to what he’s been doing. As an atheist, I have no horse in this race, but clearly you’ve gone off the deep end.

  23. Anyone who thought the Pope would rewrite Catholicism to insist on gay marriages at the alter is clearly deluded. On the other hand, the Pope is making progress in the right direction and I applaud him for the good he’s done:)

    Your friendly neighborhood atheist.

  24. Not anymore:) Meet Rev. William Barber of the Moral Monday’s movement (in line with Pope Francis): WE WILL NOT BE DIVIDED:

    “We should be deeply committed to women’s health and environmental protection. We can agree that we want fairness in the criminal justice system by addressing the continuing inequalities in the system and providing for equal protection under the law for black, brown and poor white people. Morally, we are going to protect expand voting rights, women’s rights, LGBTQ rights, immigrant rights, and the fundamental principle of equal protection under the law. We understand that this is not a separate agenda but intersectional. There is a moral rubric that intersects on all of these. All of the people that are fighting each of these issues are fighting all these issues.”
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/09/29/1425693/-Reverend-Barber-suggests-Daily-Kos-team-up-with-Moral-Monday-Movement-and-go-national

    I will happily join the opposition to the Kochs’ ‘Tea Pa…

  25. And again, this is why in our Founding Fathers’ wisdom that they debated, edited, rewrote & voted on what was to be in the Constitution decided that separation of Church & State was the only sane solution. It allowed anyone to believe, pray or worship as they wish or not to worship at all, but it does not give them the right to impose their beliefs on others. Ergo, there is no religious test.

    Considering the power that people give the Pope, (which now includes denominations that are not RC) it is little wonder that JFK was questioned about how much control the vatican had over his decisions. There is a difference between having personal faith in a deity & following the edicts of religious doctrine.

  26. Tidewater wrote: “Acts 5:27-29:
    27 And when they had brought them, they set them before the council. And the high priest questioned them, 28 saying, “We strictly charged you not to teach in this name, yet here you have filled Jerusalem with your teaching, and you intend to bring this man’s blood upon us.” 29 But Peter and the apostles answered, “WE MUST OBEY GOD RATHER THAN MEN”.

    Romans 13:1-7 -Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.
    …………

  27. This pope is not a progressive. If the poop is progressive, I’m a Republican.

    In Italy the Pope is not allowed but their constitution to inter with politics. It should be the same in the USA. Isn’t this why the Pilgrims fled England? For Religious freedom?

  28. Kim.. you suggest readers should do some home work. I’d suggest you too, need to do the same. Try these Gen2:v7, gen 1:v30, Job33:V4 all tell when life begins. Then go to these. On the needy and the poor..Deut 15:7,10 and 11. then on what leader Are supposed to be. Deut 17-18 leaders are to be kind, respectful generous, not hard or domineering.

  29. It’s time for people to realize the the Pope should not be examined like a court ordered witness. He should be respected and loved for the goodness he displays throughout humanity. Listen Jesus came to the world with a sword to mix us up to take us out of our comfort zones to make us choose our HEARTS over OUR BRAINS and earthy rules. Yes God wants us to respect earthy law but he gives us laws that HE wants us to follow. When earthly laws tell people to GO GET A JOB YOU BUM…When current jobs still leave you POOR, there is Christ telling you what you do for the poor you do it to me. It’s time people realize honesty is an expected balance of Christ word. When you know Republicans want GREED over improving humanity YOU are obligated to vote THE OTHER WAY. THIS POPE is NOT classified as Evil because he rubs some people the wrong way. Remember how Christ was crucified in the first place because of THE WAY HUMANS WANT “THEIR RIGHTS & LAWS TO BE” SO THERE IT IS JUDGE HIM YOU WILL BE JUDGE…

  30. …And if she was elected to do that job and she, in fact, is not doing it, why is she still being paid??? That’s what I have a problem with.

  31. Yes DG:
    The job of the guy is to keep the herd together, all factions, moving towards what he wants them to do.

    Since the Evangelicals were excluded from the kumbaya meeting, rallying behind Kim Davis, gets a lot done with little effort.

    By santifying Serra, tells the Protestants that “we-were-here-first-&-speaking-Spanish”, so he sacrifices the Native-Americans, but holds on to the Spanish-speaking-crowd & the converted native Americans also known as Mexicans.

    By (sort-of) unifying the Christians, there is some progress in his eyes, and gets tons of publicity and renewed membership and $$$ for the rosaries from the slave labor of the nuns, whose unchanged functions are still the backbone of the institution.

  32. US LAW was made by man. This is why SO MAN STILL SUFFER under US LAW. Laws made by man ARE NEVER a good excuse for THIS IS THE WAY ITS SUPPOSED TO BE. For instance THE RICH make all the rules. SO MANY suffer because of US LAW SICKNESS….and the list is long. Racial injustice Wars all over the place Monsanto GMOs….on and on. Those who live through their hearts God bless you. The others may Gods mercy help you and change you.I believe in Church and state separation but I also believe in following Christ the best way I can regardless of my short comings.

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