Fox News host Chris Wallace on Sunday challenged right-wing White House aide Stephen Miller about the need for a wall on the southern U.S. border. He also confronted Miller about the lies he tells about immigration and drugs.
“Stephen Miller talks about the national security threat at the border”
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In his interview on Fox News Sunday, Wallace told Miller that between 80 and 90 percent of illegal drugs, such as cocaine, heroin, and fentanyl, are seized at U.S. border crossings where there is no need for a wall.
But all Miller did was complain that President George W. Bush failed to protect American citizens against immigrants crossing the border illegally. And he didn’t like it when Wallace confronted him with the facts.
“Four times as many people were coming across the border in 2000 as compared to now,” Wallace pointed out to the Trump adviser. “So why is that a national emergency?”
“I can go down to the details as much as you want to,” Miller replied.
“But please don’t,” Wallace sarcastically replied. Then Miller added:
“You cannot conceive of a nation without a strong, secure border. It is essential to sovereignty and national survival to have control over who does and who doesn’t enter the country.”
“There’s been a huge increase in drug deaths since George W. Bush and Barack Obama were president.”
At that point the Fox News host confronted Miller directly, saying:
“But 80 to 90 percent of those drugs don’t come across in unfenced areas. They come across from ports of entry. Those are your own Customs and Border Patrol numbers.”
At which point Miller said:
“Which is why we also asked for additional resources at the ports of entry.”
Wallace then responded by saying, “Which you got [in the recent DHS bill signed by Trump].”
Miller, however, suggested that the U.S. needed screeners “at that same density across every inch and mile of the southern border.”
You don’t know what you don’t know,” he continued. “You don’t catch what you don’t catch… This is defending our own country!”
“I question whether or not that’s, in fact, the case,” Wallace commented.
At the conclusion of the tense interview, Wallace acknowledged that it had been difficult to counter all Miller’s talking points.
“It’s always a challenge interviewing you,” Wallace remarked.
As is typical, Stephen Miller reaches conclusions based on his anti-immigrant opinions instead of on the facts. But the majority of the American people don’t agree with Miller’s — or Trump’s — opinions on the so-called immigration “crisis.” In fact most Americans don’t think that there is a crisis. And, as this interview points out, if there is a crisis, it exists mostly in the mind of Stephen Miller — and Donald Trump.
I am a lifelong Democrat with a passion for social justice and progressive issues. I have degrees in writing, economics and law from the University of Iowa.