Meet The Press’ Chuck Todd put his hand on his head and laughed as Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani tried to claim that truth is not truth.

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Transcript via Meet The Press:

CHUCK TODD:

So you believe this is on them? You believe this is on them, that you would’ve, that you guys have not delayed the interviewing —

RUDY GIULIANI:

No.

CHUCK TODD:

–delayed the negotiations with Mr. Mueller?

RUDY GIULIANI:

Yes, each time, by 3 or 4 days, so we could write a letter in response. They have taken 2-3 weeks to get back to us, so what I have to tell you is, look, I am not going to be rushed into having him testify so that he gets trapped into perjury. And when you tell me that, you know, he should testify because he’s going to tell the truth and he shouldn’t worry, well that’s so silly because it’s somebody’s version of the truth. Not the truth. He didn’t have a, a conversation —

CHUCK TODD:

Truth is truth. I don’t mean to go like —

RUDY GIULIANI:

No, it isn’t truth. Truth isn’t truth. The President of the United States says, “I didn’t — ”

CHUCK TODD:

Truth isn’t truth? Mr. Mayor, do you realize, what, I, I, I–

RUDY GIULIANI:

No, no, no–

CHUCK TODD:

This is going to become a bad meme.

RUDY GIULIANI:

Don’t do, don’t do this to me.

Chuck Todd could only laugh at Trump’s legal defense

Truth is not truth is the perfect summary of the entire Trump presidency. Trump is the reality-denying president. Chuck Todd had to put his hand on his head and laugh because Giuliani’s statements are so unbelievable. The truth is the truth, but the whole Trump legal defense is centered around a denial of the facts and evidence. Truth isn’t truth. What you see isn’t real.

It is all an attempt to gaslight the people of the United States of America into believing a false reality.

Trump’s biggest problem is that the truth is coming for him in the form of Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation. Giuliani and Trump can deny the facts, but reality has a way of catching up to every president.

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Jason is the managing editor. He is also a White House Press Pool and a Congressional correspondent for PoliticusUSA. Jason has a Bachelor’s Degree in Political Science. His graduate work focused on public policy, with a specialization in social reform movements.

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