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Gayle stevens's avatar

Now listening to Bernie I wonder why I never listened to him in past elections. Status quo Dems demonized him and made his messages into a reason why Dems could not win along with women candidates. I think that what we have now is a questioning of the”don’t rock the boat” mentality. Now we are in a time where the status quo’s laziness has threatened to bring us to our knees. Thank you for your insights Bernie

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JC's avatar

He is a true hero!!!! When he ran for president I helped to try to pass out flyers. They called us (Bernie’s supporters) crazy liberals and refused our pamphlets or to talk to us with any questions that they might have had. They wouldn’t listen- already ingrained in them most likely from a young age from their parents and media influence. We didn’t have social media then so people could research truths easily on their own in order to make informed decisions.

So Bernie didn’t stand a chance. Decades later he’s in Congress, not as president, but he made it there & he continues to fight for every single person in this country. He is not only a true hero in every way possible, he is one of the greatest humanitarians this world has ever been graced with. Bernie 4 ever 🫶✌️🙌🏽🥇

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Sally Richman's avatar

💯

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Gayle stevens's avatar

That is the story of our political experience. I’m not sure why I didn’t take him seriously but I think it was corporate media. He would have been a president on our side. I also liked Paul Simon. It seems like honest people wanting to be president are shut out. Jimmy Carter was such a good soul and kindhearted. Adlie

Stevenson II was another exceptional human being who would have been a president for the people

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Joan Cassidy's avatar

Bernie is so right. All those people high on that crumbling HILL have not thought about anyone but themselves and $ for a very long time. A large majority of Americans who live and work every day for family and country have lost hope that any of those up there care at all.

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Eric Perro's avatar

JD Vance will only be easier to mediatorture. And MAGA won't switch over easily as long as The Great White Dope is breathing. Vance is the hand-picked plant of the Project 2025 / Heritage Foundation traitors, but they are getting on more people's radars as every day goes by.

TEAR IT ALL DOWN. WRECK THE FILTHY RICH. DESIGNATE THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION AS A DOMESTIC TERRORISM ORGANIZATION.

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rbbarbba's avatar

Great White Dope is a magnificent title. Thanks.

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Eric Perro's avatar

Thanks. Would love to get a copyright on it, LOL.

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Carol's avatar

J D Vance is NOT from Appalachia! He’s from Middletown, Ohio. Somebody needs a map!

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Jeannie's avatar

Maga is nothing without its cult leader.

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Elizabeth's avatar

Tick tock. The melodrama will continue for a while, into next year, but the awakening, transformations, are already well under way & can't be stopped by some petulant, backwards, fearful & cold humans. There are larger forces at work & they are for life, not death. Bold, brave, beautiful humans will continue to come forward & Maga will just be a mad memory for the historians.

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Milton Findley's avatar

I felt that way all the way up to election day last year, when I watched petulant, backwards, fearful & cold humans re-elect a sexual predator to the highest office. Hope dies hard.

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Elizabeth's avatar

I don't refer to hope but the sheer force of evolution

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Milton Findley's avatar

And yet, Entropy reigns supreme and devolution is the fate of systems. :)

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Elizabeth's avatar

Sez you

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Elizabeth's avatar

Can't get through to complain or inquire, but today anything I try to do on Substack says I am in error. Anyone know why? I have received no ms. regarding any violations....

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Hollyanna's avatar

Bernie has always supported the other 99% of us. He is the real deal who has been consistent throughout his political career. Too bad the complacent Dem leadership never bothered to pay attention.

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TwinsMom0726's avatar

Vance is NOT from Appalachia. Thats a fictionilzed version from his book.

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Howard Tanenbaum,MD,FRCS(C)'s avatar

The people of Appalachia should be incensed that he labels himself as a poor white Appalachian. He is a lawyer, a graduate of Ivy leaguesdom , and a bought and sold politician of the Theil, Musk Oligarchy. One book ,even if mislabeled a representation of a struggled upbringing does not define the person. Just listen to him. Is what his view of .america and Americans of all stripe what you believe? We now have evidence what characters like him can do to America when given the power of the Presidency. Is that what America wants?

The closeness of the last election( not withstanding what the GOP says) was very close and the swing state results acting on the Electoral College vote is still questionable re manipulation) indicates that a significant segment of America does not.

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California Jonathan's avatar

Bernie doesn’t mince words. Ever. He’s as blunt as a sledgehammer but he’s also a very astute and knowledgeable politician with a vast amount of experience in Congress. He knows the lay of the land there and he knows who’s genuine and who the fakes are. Clearly Vance belongs in the latter camp. Vance is well connected with the oligarchs, not with the working class people of America, no matter how he tries to pretend and portray himself otherwise. Trump was able to do that, not once but twice; Vance doesn’t have what it takes to do that even if he may want to. The only way Vance makes it to the Oval Office is on Trump’s coattails and that gambit is looking more feeble with each passing month.

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Bluesmurf's avatar

JD Vance is no drumpf. One thing that drumpf has been consistent in is bringing out the worst in people, bringing out the anger, the division, and the hatred. drumpf is also entertaining to these MAGAmorons and says what they want to hear in a tone and manner in which they want to hear it. Of course, now the MAGAmorons have FAFO and a bunch of them aren't liking it so much.

JD Vance does not have this kind of ability, charisma, entertainment value, or ability to bring people together in one big mob of hateful goo. That's another reason the MAGAs have to get the "cheating machine" up and running for the next election. They know in the pit of their stomachs that no one can be drumpf, not even any of his pathetic offspring.

I agree with Bernie that it does not matter who is in charge of MAGA, the stakes are still the same - but higher for them now that they are so obviously protecting rich pedophiles and taking away food and health care from everyone. I do not see anyone in their leadership that has the ability to pull together anything MAGA after drumpf. That leaves the rich to take us all down and if we all get mad enough, all quit going to work, spending money, or otherwise cooperating in how they live, rich people are more vulnerable than the rest of us.

Reminds me of the joke that all we have to do to defeat a mob run by Gen Z is to give them a rotary phone, a stick shift vehicle and the instructions in cursive. The rich do not know how to survive in the dirt - grow and harvest their own food, cook, find water, make it drinkable, make their own clothing and bedding, wash clothes in a creek, build a fire without a fire starter, build anything, raise livestock and fowl for food, kill, butcher, and smoke meat to preserve it where there is no electricity, no toilet, no running water... They'd die! -- I know how to do all those things and more and I am still capable of doing them at this point. You think Musk is? Bezos? Theil? Ellison? Zuckerberg or any of their wives? How about JD Vance? - he might say he's from Appalachia, but apparently that is not true.

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CHRISTINE HOLLY's avatar

Regardless of how BSanders feels, I still don't think Democrats should underestimate ANYONE from the Republican side. I believe the right has a large enough "lunatic fringe" to overcome any thoughtful, intelligent, balanced candidate put forth by Democrats or any other party!

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Sun's avatar
Aug 10Edited

Vance is not even really from Appalachia.

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Joe Blow's avatar

I wish I was on the Kanapali beach in Hawaii with no internet access and a giant macadamia nut shave ice.

I never want to see or hear or read about another republican of any stripe ever again.

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Lux's avatar

The moral rot at the center of this country and it’s entire government, lock, stock, and barrel, from sea to shining sea, are irredeemable at this point. If you believe Democrats, sucking up millions in AIPAC cash are any more on our side than Republicans at this point, I got some bad news. Bernie’s like, IT, and the only reason they aren’t demonizing the hell out of him as we speak, is that he’s got no designs on the presidency, if he did, every Dem and their uncle would be attacking him left and right. Mamdani is the evidence, they’re nothing more than “Republican lite” at this point, look how many vote WITH the fascists, they’re not interested in fixing anything, as long as it don’t negatively impact their bank account, they’re just fine with this.

Just more of the same, “the rich getting richer”, Democrats don’t fail cause they’re inept, they seem inept by design, why would they try to cut their own pay, which is what they’re doing if they help US, so they do just enough to get our vote, but not QUITE enough to actually fix anything. Bah, bring on the revolution before these rich assholes kill us all, I’m disgusted and sick of the whole freaking scam.

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Tia Ja'nae's avatar

Yet Trump WAS a card carrying Democrat for DECADES until he decided to infiltrate the Republican party.

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Lux's avatar

Yup, he was indeed....

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MaeKuykendall's avatar

I concede that the Clintons are part of the culture of $$$, as are the Obamas. I suppose Gore. Our culture has encouraged pay days for fame, and politics creates fame. Few seem to be immune. No more Harry Trumans to be had.

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Gently, Jack Jones's avatar

Yet it’s somehow Bernie’s fault?

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MaeKuykendall's avatar

His wife has a rap sheet as a college administrator. Sanders's role in 2016 has been much discussed so I will quit responding. No chance of reaching agreement on that horrible year.

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MaeKuykendall's avatar

I have a pretty strong dislike for Sanders because I think he gave us Trump. On the other hand this comment is a good one.

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Jeannie's avatar

LMAO

Anyone who thinks Sanders is the reason why we have Trump is incredibly out of touch

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Punkette's avatar

Brava, sister! Agree 💯

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Milton Findley's avatar

Bernie Sanders gave us Trump the First through his grandstanding after losing multiple elections. And I believe that I am personally incredibly in touch, whatever that means. I see nothing to LMAO about. I agree with Bernie about half the time, but...

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Jeannie's avatar

Out of touch statement. Believing that Bernie is to blame for Trump‘s winning is not realistic, but it is probably something the media falsely put into your head.

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Milton Findley's avatar

I watched it happen in real time, along with his half hearted attempt to support Hillary that one time. I will send my money to AOC.

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MaeKuykendall's avatar

Media, huh?

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rbbarbba's avatar

Wrong. As the person above said "I should have listened to Bernie". I did . With the Clinton baggage and Hillary's defenses she was the prototype for okaying bad behavior in government.

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MaeKuykendall's avatar

We needed Trump! No to Hillary! Thank you, Sanders, for your relentless attacks. Trump has reformed American politics for the better!

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Publia's avatar

Thumbs down to you.

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MaeKuykendall's avatar

I guess we disagree.

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Gently, Jack Jones's avatar

Good Lord - blaming one person for trumps ascendancy is myopic and lazy to the extreme! There were many factors, including the centrist Dem leadership and the Clintons with their triangulation strategy that hollowed out what the Democratic Party once was. If we’re going to spend time blaming a Democrat for Stinky, let’s blame the Clintons and decades of tone deaf, Wall Street oriented politicians such as Obama, the Clintons and the horrible DNC leadership

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Milton Findley's avatar

Cause and effect and clearly, he has made at least one convert. Not me though and Trump and Bernie are both populists, and equally dangerous to our place in the world.

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Gently, Jack Jones's avatar

Cause and effect? In reference to what? And where did I say I was a Sanders supporter or “convert”? That’s not what I said. So it’s the fact that you see him as a populist and that you feel populists are dangerous that is the basis for your statements. That still doesn’t explain blaming him for the current situation

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Milton Findley's avatar

He sees himself as a populist as well as the pied piper. Trump is a populist too. Do you see the problem? Alexis de Tocqueville did and wrote a book about it.

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Rick Greenslit's avatar

Bernie speaks the truth.

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