
How crazy is Fox News?
After supporting the Republicans who outed the CIA base in Libya and outed several Libyans working with America, Fox News is now criticizing the slowness of the investigation into the Benghazi attacks. Two months out and we’re “nowhere”, so it’s time to use extraordinary rendition to put the suspects in Gitmo and try a little “gentle persuasion.”
Watch the November 20 edition of Fox News’ America’s Newsroom here via Media Matters:
John Botlon said, “It’s been over two months and there’s been no retribution…”
Republicans like nothing more than primitive retribution. Hang them in the square!
Bolton explains how we are most likely to get the bad guys, “Do that terrible thing that the Obama administration doesn’t like to do, use rendition, to get these people to Guantanamo Bay and try a little gentle persuasion to see what might have happened.”
Bolton, who was the only foreign policy adviser Mitt Romney actually listened to (that should tell you all you need to know about Bolton’s competence), was also the undersecretary of state for arms control and international security under Bush in 2001, and his main job was preventing the proliferation of Weapons of Mass Destruction. He has a well earned reputation for politicizing intelligence and being a very bad diplomat.
You would think that the party that finds itself so concerned with Susan Rice’s approved talking points would have an issue with Bolton, who withheld information that ran counter to his goals from both Secretary of States Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice. But then, if you thought that you would also have to believe that Republicans have values other than politicizing terrorism for profit.
Talk about a different reality. We waited seven years for the Bush administration to get bin Laden and they never did. Bush never got him, wasn’t even that interested in getting him. In fact, Fox supported our invasion of a country unrelated to the 9/11 attacks. We didn’t get Osama until President Barack Hussein Obama took office and finally went after Osama. Bin Laden is now dead, thanks to President Obama, and thousands did not have to die in order to take care of that business.
But now according to Fox, it’s outrageous that it’s been two whole months. Also outrageous: Allegedly, according to Fox, the matter is being treated as a “criminal” matter instead of terrorism, when we all know how well Gitmo works for getting good intel. Bolton suggests that what we really need is some good old torture so we can get the kind of bad intel we got under Bush.
Benghazi gate is dead (as predicted). CBS is reporting, “(T)he Office of the Director of National Intelligence (DNI) cut specific references to “al Qaeda” and “terrorism” from the unclassified talking points given to Ambassador Susan Rice on the Benghazi consulate attack – with the agreement of the CIA and FBI. The White House or State Department did not make those changes.”
It never occurs to Fox/Republicans that they are the people still pushing for the CIA to have released classified information about the attack. The Intelligence community said they deliberately kept the talking points vague because they didn’t know who did the attacks yet and there appeared to be two different attacks (one spontaneous and one planned perhaps). They said it was an act of terror (same as the President said) but that they did not want to say who did it until they had more information.
By all means, let’s imagine how this would have gone under Republican control. Day One: Republican President would have named an unrelated terror group as responsible, most likely one he/she could tie to Iran. Day Two: We invade Iran. Day Three: We out CIA agents, base, and citizens working with the CIA. Day Four: We round up anyone who might know something and commence torturing them. Day Five: Based on the bad intel received via torture, we spend millions of taxpayer money funding our contractor buddies’ “surge” into areas unrelated to the attacks. Year Two: Republican President declares victory prematurely. Eight years later: Republican President announces that the actual terrorists, who are still at large, are not our main concern.
While I’m not against treating terrorists like the scum they are, I am against doing stupid things that don’t work and also violate international law. Torture just happens to be both. Furthermore, the land of the “free” should not have to resort to behaving like the terrorists it allegedly abhors. But of course, we can’t expect the Fox News drones to get that. Gitmo is their idea of “small government.”
The primitive, greedy, nasty nature of Fox News represents well what the Republican Party has become: A cult of knuckle draggers slobbering over the distraction techniques of the elite, including putting a (faux) “Christian” stamp on torturing other human beings for revenge and just plain good times.
Why are they talking when clearly Republicans know NOTHING about going after the actual terrorists? Oh, that’s right — they’re still pretending they are the foreign policy/national security party. The party that brought you Mission Accomplished, WMDs, Valerie Plame, and never got Osama wants to tell this administration how to do things.
The guy who withheld information from both Powell and Condi Rice is now the front man for the attacks on the Obama administration over Rice’s talking points and how to get a terrorist.
Thanks, but no thanks, Republicans.
Note: It’s been three years and seven months since Hannity promised to be waterboarded.




Fedup
Nov. 20th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
If the saying loss lips sink ships is still in existance by the time all these republican talking heads get done including Sen John McCain and the rest of so called Americans we’ll be talking another language. Bolten is about as smart as a rock, but that’s not being fair to the rock. I suppose the torture thing will get picked up by McCain and want to us it on Americans to get answers. These people at Fox can’t believe what their saying. Ha right.
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fedded-up
Nov. 20th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
These bush-wackers just will NOT go away for good, will they? They’ve ALWAYS got something stupid to say. They’re ALWAYS ready to cheerlead for a return to medieval amoral behavior – never ever able to recognize either the shamefulness or the barbarism of their thoughts, words, or behaviors. Personally, I believe that John Bolton belongs in a prison cell, along with a large percentage of the people who presided within the catastrophic criminal enterprise otherwise known as the Bush administration. It seriously offends me deeply that these persons are able to walk freely in the world, let alone get on national television to spew more insane ugliness.
This is the one area that I have a big problem and massive disagreement with the Obama administration. I know, intellectually, why they didn’t go after these criminals – it would have torn the country apart at the seams. At least, that’s what I’ve heard. BUT, I and many, many, many people are sick and tired of such psychopaths being given a free ride. These people are responsible, directly and indirectly, for an awful lot of death and destruction on a global scale. I think it is WAY past time they were made to pay for it.
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Deborah Stuart
Nov. 20th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Glad to see the outlay of what we would have done if Romney had gotten elected. Thank God it didn’t! We need to take things in Benghazi slowly but consistently. That torture would even enter into the equation is preposterous. Didn’t help in 2001 would not help now. We also have to protect the Libyans who helped our Diplomat and consulants as best as they could given the circumstances. The Repubs didn’t think giving them extra security was a priority in Tripoli. It would not have taken them to long to get there by copter, and could have at least quelled the violence that they were experiencing. Possibly could have caught some of the Al Qaida responsible for killing our diplomat and consulants. Who knows, but for them to trample on human rights as they did in 2001 to present in Iraq and Afghanistan is still crimes against humanity. We need to refocus our attention to training the Afghans to secure their country and then get out of there completely. They don’t want America there at all. If they want to destroy one another, let them. I know we have invested alot of money there, but aren’t the lives that we can save of our soldiers more important?
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Mary
Nov. 20th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Bolton another war criminal who should be in prison.
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Reynardine
Nov. 20th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Several high-ranking News Corpse executives have gotten their tallywhackers in a crack in the UK (all right, Rebekah Brook hasn’t got a tallywhacker). When the pie is opened, the birds might start to sing…
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Enjay in E MT
Nov. 20th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Contrary to the GOP Foreign ‘go with your gut’ policy of hitting who ever happens to annoy you -
President Obama believes in finding the guilty
parties involved to punishing them.
Meanwhile the Neo-cons want a Spanish Inquisition
Ver. 2.0 to fact find information.
Sometimes I wonder if they even consider what we could have done with Bush admin. officials (Cheney, Rice & Scooter…) if enhanced interrogation was legal within the US.
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Jonathan
Nov. 20th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Keep it up Gopers. The election was a mandate to reject your schemes and tactics. But you just don’t get it do you? Keep it up, please and you will see an even strong mandate in opposition to the Republican brand and all the games it plays in 2014. You don’t have the tea party helping you anymore,if fact they are hurting the future of the GOP. I couldn’t be happier. Keep it up. To quote our President during the second debate “By all means, continue!”
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The Glenn Beck Review
Nov. 20th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
“The primitive, greedy, nasty nature of Fox News represents well what the Republican Party has become: A cult of knuckle draggers slobbering over the distraction techniques of the elite….”
Damn, Sarah, tells us what you really think.
The problem at Fox is that this is what the bosses want. It’s too bad, too; because an honest, conservative media would be good for the nation. Fox, on the other hand, just makes there viewers come across as misinformed morons. This contributes the the primary success of the worst candidates for Congress and in turn strengthens the case for the Dems. Fox, ironically, is undermining the electoral chances of the Party. And they’re fun to laugh at.
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nomad
Nov. 22nd, 2012 at 2:08 am
Very good observation. Fox News is doing a great deal of harm to any intelligent debate in this country. And an open, honest and informed discussion is the greatest strength of any democratic country.
All of us, left and right, suffer when Fox News poisons the well because no party is perfect and it is essential to have an intelligent and sensible opposition to keep the party in power in check.
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Shiva (Moderator)
Nov. 20th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
I wonder if that torture would work on the people responsible for voter suppression? I wonder if that torture would work on people who send us to Iraq where we lost over 4000 men and wounded well over 35,000?
It seems to me that at least a couple people have been arrested who were responsible for that attack. I wonder if John Bolton was around when the 38 died under George W. Bush in embassy attacks because of his actions? And then we need to dig Ronald Reagan up and grill him about the Marines who died in Beirut
You know, those people that the GOP never said a word about?
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ibwilliamsi
Nov. 20th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
First, what happened in Benghazi was that the R House defunded their protection.
Second, Bolton would give it all up after one eyebrow waxing.
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Tim
Nov. 21st, 2012 at 11:29 am
Do I sense desperation over at Fox.
I can suggest a few ideas about what should be done with Mr Bolton.
Now there is one sad excuse for a human being if ever there was one.
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William
Nov. 21st, 2012 at 12:30 pm
I don’t even need to read this. John Bolton is a total incompetent and majorly hated by the international community. Why this slug gets any attention is beyond me. This is the same guy Bush wanted to make our U.N. Ambassador and everyone knew he had as much of a chance being confirmed as Osama bin Ladin would have. Who cares? This is FAUX news and the Reich’s ridiculous parade of moron clowns.
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nomad
Nov. 22nd, 2012 at 2:12 am
People who had to work with Bolton reportedly found him to be a bully and impossibly arrogant. Some people simply do NOT have the personality, intelligence judgment or character to be in a position of power. Bolton is one of those.
It was the same for Sununu and Palin, both “contributors” to Fox News. Unrespected and unhelpful hacks are a Fox News specialty.
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