Shooting Victim’s Father Blames NRA – NRA Says Proposed Gun Study Unethical

Martinez_NRASo Richard Martinez, father of 20-year-old Chris Martinez, who was killed by Eliott Rodgers during his shooting rampage in Santa Barbara, California, that left six dead and 13 wounded, hit the nail on his head when he placed the blame for his son’s death on “craven, irresponsible politicians and the NRA.”

Chris died because of craven, irresponsible politicians and the NRA. They talk about gun rights. What about Chris’s right to live? When will this insanity stop? When will enough people say ‘stop this madness, we don’t have to live like this?’

Two of Rodgers’ six victims were women. When he finally and fatally shot himself in the head, he was found to be armed with three handguns, two Sig Sauer p226s and a Glock 34 – all legally purchased – and 400 rounds of ammunition. According to Mother Jones, three-quarters of all assault weapons and handguns used by mass murderers in this country have been purchased legally.

As Sarah Jones wrote here Saturday, Rodgers went on his rampage because, as he put it, he was tired of being rejected and ignored by women.

Almost two-thirds of the women killed with firearms were killed by their intimate partners. So the very folks blaming women for being murdered because they didn’t protect themselves are also the folks advocating for a no rules, free for all when it comes to gun ownership that clearly and directly endangers women.

And it’s true. This is what Rodgers said before he went on his rampage:

You girls have never been attracted to me. I don’t know why you girls aren’t attracted to me, but I will punish you all for it.

You literally can’t get more unequivocal than this.

So, because Rodgers blamed women, and specifically cited women, Fox News, of course, blamed homosexuality. According to Fox News, Rodgers was actually “angry at the men for not choosing him.”

Dr. Robi Ludwig told Fox News what conservative viewers wanted to hear,

When I was first listening to him, I was like, ‘Oh, he’s angry with women for rejecting him. And then I started to have a different idea: Is this somebody who is trying to fight against his homosexual impulses?’

Was he angry with women because they were taking away men from him? But this is a kid who couldn’t connect, and felt enraged, and wanted to obliterate anyone that made him feel like a nothing.

Fox News, so fair and balanced it prefers to make up facts than pay attention to actual facts sitting there right in front of them.

Because of course, he can’t really be angry because he was a heterosexual who felt rejected by women. It fits more neatly into Fox News’ anti-gay agenda to label him a homosexual instead.

I mean, he killed people. He has to be gay, right? What are homosexuals, according to the conservative meme, but proto-Nazis waiting to establish a new Reich?

In fact, Fox News itself shares a great deal of blame for supporting an pro-death, anti-American, gun-culture agenda. Fox News accused movie mogul Harvey Weinstein of hypocrisy earlier this year for making violent films while opposing the NRA while shamelessly promoting the NRA’s murderous policies.

In fact, Fox News accused the media earlier this month of not talking enough about a decrease in gun violence. The problem is, the study Fox News pointed to as evidence, shows that “Nearly all the decline in the firearm homicide rate took place in the 1990s” and that “the rate appears to be higher in 2011 compared with 2008.” The study stops there. It tells us nothing at all about gun violence in 2012, 2013, or 2014.

The only thing Fox News has not blamed for gun violence is guns.

And talk about hypocrisy: here is Fox News using a study to defend the NRA while the NRA says a study which would determine how many people are actually killed by guns is “unethical.” Now ask yourself why would the NRA worry about something like that?

NRA spokesperson Catherine Mortensen told ProPublica,

The abuse of taxpayer funds for anti-gun political propaganda under the guise of ‘research’ is unethical. That is why Congress should stand firm against President Obama’s scheme to undermine a fundamental constitutional right.

You might remember here what Richard Martinez said about his son’s right to live.

It’s easy to blame television or Hollywood. And it’s convenient. But at the heart of the evil of gun violence in America is the NRA’s rampant embrace and promotion of a gun culture, and Fox News, which lives off ramping up hate and fear. It’s a potent mix.

As President Obama said in the wake of the Washington Navy Yard shootings last fall, he senses “a creeping resignation that these tragedies are just the way it is — a new normal. We cannot accept this. There’s nothing normal about innocent people getting gunned down at work.”

Or anywhere else for that matter. But it is happening regardless, and with increasing regularity. And conservatism’s answer is to blame not guns, not the NRA, not Republican politicians and their increasingly lax gun laws, but liberals. Most mass murderers, they say, are registered Democrats (In fact, so goes the meme, liberalism is to blame for just about every evil in the world).

But this is not true. It is a myth.

And Rodgers didn’t learn to hate women from Democrats or from liberalism. Only one political ideology in America is teaching young American men that women owe them something, and that is conservatism. The same ideology, by the way, that is not only sowing hate and fear in general but misogyny in particular, that is teaching them that problems can and should be solved with guns.

The NRA, the GOP, and Fox News rant about the “fundamental” right to bear arms while ignoring the fundamental right of Americans to life. And as Richard Martinez said, their right to own a gun does not trump your right to life. Which, you might ask yourself, is in truth, more fundamental?

48 Replies to “Shooting Victim’s Father Blames NRA – NRA Says Proposed Gun Study Unethical”

  1. If you want to see something dirty, check out the way the manosphere has been trolling every Disqus-powered blog that dares even print an article that alludes to misogyny and gun violence– in effect, to this incident at all. They are abusive and then accuse everyone of suppressing their free speech. Last night, one called me a crack addict on a public forum. I cautioned him to think about the possible consequences of such a statement.

    With such organizations of vicious people out there, there can only be more and worse incidents like this.

  2. Fox News has contributed to the uglifying of American society. People are whipped up into a frenzy of hatred for women, gays, blacks and Latino immigrants.

    The loosening of gun laws and let’s call Stand Your Ground what it is: judge Dredd style vigilante executions is going to explode in a frenzy of killing again and again.

    The fabric of America is unravelling, the social contract is dissolving into anarchy as the US drifts towards a siege mentality.

    Underneath it all: Fox News, Alex Jones want a civil war and an ideological and ethnic cleansing.

    You pay alternation to Nazi propaganda and it becomes ever clearer that this is the extremist, right wing direction is going. Fox News is not even pretending to be civil any more.

    Comment author now correct ~ System Admin
  3. I installed Disqus on my blog yesterday, and they provided me with a list of websites in the Disqus community that I might be interested in. One was Breitbart.com. The comments criticizing Mr. Martinez and defending the NRA were disgusting, to say the least.

  4. Over and over again. Manic OCD paranoid losers hug their guns, and shoot at unarmed people like the cowards that they are. Swine! Disgusting narcissist Swine! And we cannot unarm these lunatics? He has it right. When can we stop this madness? Amend the second amendment by sweeping all republicans out of congress and senate.
    Get out the vote for 2014. If you don’t vote in 2014, the blood is on your hands.

  5. I would like to see the victims families of these mass shootings get together and begin class action suits against the NRA and their acolytes. i’d sure like to be on one of those juries.

  6. Let’s talk Constitution: it is true that at the time of the founding of our country, many people owned guns for their own individual use in hunting or protection from wild animals on the frontier, and some owned them in order to take land from native Americans or to enforce slavery. But those facts are not what the 2nd Amendment dealt with. The 2nd Amendment, despite what the Supreme Court now says, had nothing to do with personal safety or hunting or anything else. It was about the protection of the state. It says: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State…” It is about military protection, not a personal right to buy hundreds of round of ammunition in a place where no danger of wild animals or armed insurrection is at stake. If you’re not in a well-regulated Militia, you have no gun rights.

  7. SPLC “Intelligence Report” did a lengthy piece on this particular brand of “hate” in the Spring issue 2012.

    It’s title: “War on Women”(sorry did not link).

    If you reference pages 16,17 AND 18, you will find a list of Misogyny sites.

    What more can I say?

  8. There was a study done in Switzerland on gun ownership. It found the following:

    1. Gun owners were more likely to be divorced than non owners.
    2. Gun owners had lower levels of education than non owners.
    3. Gun owners were more likely to have been medicated by a doctor for depression than non gun owners.
    4. Gun owners were more likely to have been fired from a job than non gun owners.
    5. Gun owners had a lower economic class (lower wages and wealth) than non gun owners.
    6. Gun owners had a higher rate of school drop out than non gun owners.
    7. Gun owners were more likely to be unemployed than non gun owners.

    Conclusion: Gun owners are less educated, and are less likely to be able to get along with other people than non gun owners. Of course these are the very people we want to have guns in the US. Makes a lot of sense.

  9. Even in the Wild, Wild West era of our history, open carry of guns was disallowed in towns. Those who were armed had to turn in their weapons to the local sheriff’s office as long as they were in town. Gun rights organizations, such as the NRA or the OCT, are as demented and vile as their spokespersons and leadership. They do not value life nor do they protect those in harm’s way. It’s all talk, money talk. It has nothing to do with the freedom of every person to live in peace, to pursue happiness, to have the right to live. Just like the (non-)Christians who force their version of (non-)morality and (non-)religion upon us, these gun rights fanatics demand that we kow-tow to their amoral, uneducated, and unethical version of life in the 21st century. The double standards with both such groups is unacceptable and must be eradicated for a civil society to exist.

  10. after the mass killing in Arizona, a right-wing columnist in a local paper came out with the traditional conservative views about these incidents. he even opined that we’d do better to pray for the victims than to advocate for tougher gun laws. i answered him with a letter wherein i agreed with him in part, because, after all, it’s always just a matter of time before another mass-shooting takes place. i never want to see another mass killing, but i’ve always wondered what the NRA’s reaction would be if a lunatic shot up one of their conventions and left mass casualties: would they continue to point out, as they always do, that the only answer to a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun, even tho the shooting in Arizona took place in a state where it’s practically against the law to appear in public unarmed? and still that perp managed to shoot 19 people and kill 6, and the only way he was stopped was when he paused to reload and was then taken down by unarmed bystanders.

  11. Explain how this is the NRAs fault. I have a Constitutional right to own a gun. I need a magazine with 30 bullets to protect myself. What if a group of people try to rob my house? 5 bullets won’t do me any good. Or what if people come to confiscate me guns? I need the bullets for them.

    Now about the 2nd amendment. The people are the militia. We have the amendment to help us protect ourselves against a tyrannical government. We do not know what goes on behind closed doors. Before you says our government would never do that to us, thats what the people in Nazi Germany thought. We should be armed as much as the government. We need to protect ourselves from them. They aren’t our friends.

    Statistically speaking, the more people armed, the less crime. Even if someone tries to go on a shooting spree, they will be stopped by a LAW ABIDING CITIZEN. If everyone has a gun, criminals will be scared to attack someone. Laws will only take the guns from law abiding citizens, not cri…

  12. Bullshit.

    A well regualted miltia is not the people, but the people in the militia. And the more guns you have, the more people will die.

    Someone being shot by a law abiding citizen will usually kill more people then just the shooter. You have been sucked into a black hole by an idiot called Insane Wayne.
    As for your needing 30 bullets in case a “group” of people invade your house, thats hilarious. Do try to get real.

    The NRA could care less about you or anyone else. They shill for the gun manufactures that bankroll the NRA. Grow the hell up

  13. BTW, the people in German were not disarmed. The Jewish people were. The Hitler lowered the age that people could own guns in Germany. You are so sucked in by stupidity that you cant hit the toilet when you take a leak.

    As far as a group invading your house, get real. Grow up. Insane wayne lives for the gun manufacturers not to protect and help you.

  14. Isn’t this Switzerland’s study. Have you been to Switzerland? There is simply no comparison between the way they think and the way we think.

  15. I hope his bathroom walls are painted yellow. When I ran a law office, I made sure mine were.

    By the way, why aren’t links coming up live?

  16. You’re right there is no comparison. In Switzerland they are educated and civilize. Here in the US we are exceptional in the way we value life

  17. You probably fell asleep during class, so here is what you missed:

    (b) The classes of the militia are—
    (1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
    (2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

    The Second Amendment refers to “a well-regulated militia.”The right of the people to form citizen militias was unquestioned by the Founders.

    A. The Federalist Papers, No. 28: Alexander Hamilton expressed that when a government betrays the people by amassing too much power and becoming tyrannical, the people have no choice but to exercise their original right of self-defense — to fight the government.[Halbrook, p. 67]

    B. The Federalist Papers, No. 29: Alexander Hamilton explained that an armed citizenry was the best and only real defense against a standing army becoming large and oppressive. [Halbrook, p. 67]

    C. The Federalist Papers, …

  18. another one who fell asleep during class. Geez!

    (a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
    (b) The classes of the militia are—
    (1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
    (2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

  19. (2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.
    Nothing more than toy soldiers or a gang

  20. So you say the more guns people have, the more people will die. What is your proof? Any evidence? No. Get your head out of your ass and stop watching mainstream media. It is all full of the political agenda.

  21. Number of Murders by Firearms, US, 2012: 8,855

    http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_8_murder_victims_by_weapon_2008-2012.xls

    Gun homicides and gun ownership by country

    The United States has the highest gun ownership rate in the world and the highest per capita rate of firearm-related murders of all developed countries.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/nation/gun-homicides-ownership/table/

  22. Rick, bud you need to go back to school and learn a bit about how not to wrongfully and intentionally miss read and mislead. You obviously have never encountered or lived in a dictatorship. Tyrannical Governments are a Dictatorship whether its under a king queen or a general. That cannot happen in this country. Group and grow a brain. Your hysteria is what causes dictatorships to take control in foreign countries. Your parents obviously never taught you any self control or discipline. Quite mis interpreting everything by dissecting it to mean what you want to hear. Learn to read the whole thing and understand the full intent of the authors.

  23. Yes. Look at texas. More murders per capita then Illinois.

    And yes, more guns more dead. You cant buy that simply because you have been told its criminals doing all the killing. Its not, its your next door neighbors. The people with all the guns. The people that are responsible gun owners right up until they arnt. People who are going to kill you dont buy into “wait a sec, got to get my big long penis extender out” You have been fooled, taken and boon swaggled and Wayne laughs at you every day

    The way to continue a society is not to kill it off. Thank god Europe knows that, at least someone will be left

  24. For the Reasons of Billions made each year from Weapons alone allows mass Murder in this Country of Stupid! I hate this Country.

  25. So which militia was this murderer a member of? I believe the answer is None. The law should require that a person have an order from his or her militia leader stating that he or she is a member in good standing, not mentally ill or prone to private acts of violence, and in need of ammunition for militia purposes. If we had such laws, we might have fewer rampages like this.

    Also, I note that the actual amendment does not say, “Protection from a tyrannical government being necessary to individual freedom…” but rather authorizes guns to protect “the security of a free state.”

  26. Yes, I have been to Switzerland, my husband is Swiss, as are both of my daughters who were born there when I lived there for 8 years (I am fluent in both Swiss German and French) so, yes I do know more than the average American about Switzerland. It is the only country in Europe with a right to bear arms (including assault rifles) similar to the US. Look up the Swiss record on insane wackos committing mass shootings in the country – it compares well to the US. All countries with lax gun control have more gun deaths of innocent people, this is a fact. Study done comparing Vancouver and Seattle on gun violence. Same climate, same culture, same TV channels, same demographics – but Seattle has 100 times the gun murder rate than Vancouver – because Canada has gun control and the US doesn’t. FACT. Deal with real FACTS. The NRA are liars. No one is “safer” with a gun. No one.

  27. I don’t believe for one minute that Bush The First gave the NRA immunity from responsibility in the gun violence that is now plaguing it. President George H. W. Bush TORE UP HIS MEMBERSHIP IN THE NRA when the outlets refused to stop selling arms to mentally damaged people. I tore up MY membership in the NRA, at the exact same time.(I used to teach riflery.) That, was the first and the last time that I agreed with any Bush, on anything at all. So no, I can’t think that Bush #1 would protect the NRA from liability. Maybe that was Bush #2? In any case, whoever ‘protects’ these monsters? That protection can be UNDONE. Vote BLUE, this NOVEMBER, and we can maybe start cleaning out the total charnel house that the NRA has turned itself into, in its haste to dispose of weapons from both Iraq and Afghanistan. Vote BLUE, because not simply your life – but your children’s lives, depend on it!

  28. You should see what the gun nuts call me! LOL – I consider every epithet – as, IMHO, should you – a deep compliment!

  29. We have the ability to get the NRA, those Merchants of Hate and Death, out of our politics. Voting Blue is a great start. Letting our Congresspeople know that you will not vote for them next time around, if they side with the NRA on anything at all: if they stifle votes intended to curb that organization’s excesses, your Congressperson will be gone with the next election.

    And never EVER EVER, vote Republican again. When the Republicans were a bunch of nobodies, America was a happy prosperous country that was the light of the world. Contrast that, to how the rest of the world views us now.

    That’s, what comes from voting Republican.

  30. If an organization doesn’t care for reasonable laws to be passed than they are only out for their own pockets. More isn’t always better. Reporting those who have a tendency towards violence is far from intruding on anyone’s rights unless they are out to do harm. The NRA is becoming ridiculous with their crazy demands. They have lost all sense of what is right and what is wrong. Personally,I do not want to live in a society with strangers walking around carrying weapons in stores,restraunts,churches and schools. Brandishing weapons is not safe either. What if a bad guy grabs a so called good guys gun? It can work out the other way around too. Time the Republicans woke up and remembered that the NRA is not a governing body and they should have very little impact on what the the people want. Even their members want better laws regarding guns,it’s their leaders and wackos on their board like Ted (Poopy Pants)Nugent. If it happened to them it would be different.

  31. Karma’s a bitch and I am just waiting for it to bite the NRA and their followers in the ass. Then all of a sudden something “might” get done.

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