What A Surprise! Neocon Warmonger Bill Kristol Wants Thousands Of US Troops In Iraq

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During a panel discussion on Tuesday’s Morning Joe, neocon torchbearer and Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol attempted to make the case that the United States needs to send thousands of troops into Iraq for an indefinite period of time without any clear mission. Essentially, he said that we need to go in and protect the Sunnis, despite the fact that ISIS is a Sunni organization, because Shia factions are now looking to take action against the Sunni population in the country. At the same time, the US needs to take action against ISIS and help re-establish a a stable government in Iraq. Basically, Kristol wants a bunch of US troops to go into Iraq to get into the middle of a civil war with no clear enemy of directive. In other words, create a bigger mess than it it already is, and leave American blood on Iraqi soil.

Kristol’s appearance was on the heels of an article he co-wrote with the American Enterprise Institute’s Fred Kagan on Monday titled ‘What To Do In Iraq.’ In that article, Kristol called for pretty much the same tactics and actions that he advocated for in 2002 in the run-up to the War in Iraq. Back then, Kristol wrote an almost identical piece to this current one with Kagan’s brother, titled ‘What To Do About Iraq.’ Now, 12 years later, Kristol is trying to convince Washington and the American public that we somehow need to listen to him, even though he was monumentally wrong about the aftermath of an invasion in Iraq. However, if we just follow the same advice as back then, it will all turn out really, really well this time.

On Morning Joe, nobody was really having it. While Kristol did find a somewhat friendly voice in the New York Times‘ Nicholas Kristof, and Joe Scarborough said that he feels that some type of action needs to be done, though he isn’t sure what that is, Kristol was taken apart by the tag team of Eugene Robinson and John Heilemann. Robinson started off by showing the contradicting nature of Kristol’s assessment on the situation in Iraq and what the United States should do. Basically, Robinson pointed out that Kristol’s plan was for US troops to stand in the middle and try to separate different factions from warring with each other while taking fire from all sides. Kristol, amazingly, agreed with this take.

Kristol then went on for a couple of minutes about the necessity to send in troops, which even led to an exclamation from Scarborough, who felt that Kristol was talking about 50,000 to 100,000 US troops. Finally, it came to a head when Heilemann stated that Kristol’s plan was “fantastical” and “absurd.” As Heilemann pointed out, there is absolutely no appetite among the American public to jump into another war, especially in a region that proved itself to be a quagmire in the first place. There is no way the President can sell that to the American public. Of course, Kristol thinks Obama, since he isn’t running for re-election and shouldn’t care about approval ratings or public sentiment, should use his “bully pulpit” to do the neocons’ bidding and commit the United States, and tens of thousands of troops, to a war with an undefined mission with no goal in sight.

Below is video of the exchange, courtesy of MSNBC:

 

 

Heilemann, for the most part, is a a Beltway equivocator who tends to lean on the ‘both sides do it’ mentality of the mainstream media. He is as milquetoast as it comes. The fact that he was fired up enough to shoot Kristol’s delusions about the need for more war and deaths of US troops in the name of American imperialism shows just how toxic the idea of war has become with the American public. Hopefully, this will also be the start of a pattern where neocon hawks like Kristol, John McCain, PAul Wolfowitz, John Bolton, Dick Cheney and Lindsey Graham will not be listened to or have their opinions on matters like this taken seriously.

I feel that if you’ve been thoroughly discredited over and over again, as Kristol has re: Iraq, Afghanistan and the whole ‘War on Terror,’ then you aren’t allowed to talk about those issues anymore. And, if you decide to speak up on any of them, you deserve to be ruthlessly mocked and ridiculed.

25 Replies to “What A Surprise! Neocon Warmonger Bill Kristol Wants Thousands Of US Troops In Iraq”

  1. Bill Kristol was one of the loudest cheerleaders for the Iraq invasion in 2003.

    Here’s some of his words that should be drawn on a spent uranium fuel rod and shoved down his throat, that smug, lying weasel:

    “there is a lot of money to pay for this..the oil revenues of that country could bring between $50 and $100 billion over the course of the next two or three years..we’re dealing with a country that can really finance it’s own reconstruction, and relatively soon. (The war in Iraq) could have terrifically good effects through out the Middle East.” Bill Kristol, from a September 18, 2002 column.

    He still doesn’t get it, how much this war cost in lives and how this was Iraq’s resources, not ours. This attempt at colonialism was a dismal, pathetic, sad failure.

  2. Bill Kristol is one of the reasons MSNBC is in the toilet. Such a know nothing and proud of it. I think someone needs to ask the Van Gogh in Texas what should be done. He sits down there painting away while the mess he created has to be cleaned up by Obama.

  3. Billy Boy, please feel free to go fight the good fight. I’m sure that I can get a few people together to pay for your air fare and those other neocons that want my kids to go die in the Middle east. Please, I beg of you, feel free to follow up on your carefully considered opionions, and ‘Effen GO yourself. (Or send your kids if you are way to old to go.)

  4. Kristol is also partly responsible for Palin getting the VP nod and defends her to this day, speaking of dismal, pathetic failures. Chalk up another bright idea!

  5. Bill Kristol and all the rest of the neocon chickenhawks need to talk less and act more. Yes it is time for them all to dress up in uniform and have their rich supporters pay for all equipment and transportation for them to go to fight in Iraq. They need to either put up or shutup.
    Here is what one of our Iraq veterans has to say to all the neocons read it
    http://www.stonekettle.com/2014/06/absolutely-nothing.html

  6. These freaks no longer have exclusive contracts with the cable networks.

    They appear on all of them….

  7. Hey Kristol, what branch of military service did U serve? Yeah just what I thought:another chickenhawk chickenshit sending others to serve(real men) while you sit on your over privileged ass!

  8. Saddle up there, you pseudo patriotic arm chair chicken shit. Slip on those boots! Load up your M-16. Lead the charge you colossal prick. We’ll be right behind you…next week some time,

  9. I just read a piece at the DB and historically, Iraq was mapped out & created by the British. Why isn’t Iraq THEIR problem?

  10. I have come to the conclusion that they are not stupid, even though you would think so. What we have here is a racket. The war racket.

    Yesterday I posted a op-ed with some crank saying we need this war to help the economy nevermind bridges are falling apart, the electrical grid goes out with a slight breeze. Its war or we are doomed

    Instead of attacking these blood gurgling chickenhawks. Follow the money.

    Not about Iraq because we are not sending the 82nd airborne back in that hellhole which is a religious civil war but this article is a must read about the grift and the greed that these people enjoy and not once is called out about it

    Lemons Aloft
    It’s been a while since we checked into the progress of the F-35, aka The Flying Swiss Army knife, the new Air Force attack fighter
    Read more
    http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/The_Turkey_On_The_Ground

    WKRP Turkey Drop “As God as my witness I thought turkeys could fly
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FXSnoy71Q4

  11. Well it was their problem to such to a degree they bomb them using poison gas to bring them under control. Then to make matters worse they installed I believe someone from Jordan as King so they could control the oil. The rest as they say is history. It has always been about oil. You think that the 1st Bush gave a rats ass about the Kuwaiti royal family when Iraq invaded them which BTW Iraq does have a historical claim for Kuwait. No it was about oil. There was no way the US will let someone control at least 20% of the known oil reserves especially when that person is not an American stooge. So Iraq became our problem because of oil. Nothing more, nothing less

  12. The Proper Way to Interview the Old/New Iraq War Hawks If the Rude Pundit were the host of the great and mighty Meet the Press, the wheezving old man of the Sunday morning gabfests that pretend to serious talk about political shit that actually matters to the actual lives of actual people, and he had as a guest the former Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz, the man who pushed and pushed for the U.S. to invade Iraq back in the day, he might ask, as host David Gregory did, “[W]hat do you do then, as a policy matter now to stop this?” – See more at: http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/?tw_p=twt#sthash.Ka5FNz6E.dpuf

  13. Only if you speak Palinese

    Sarah Palin, on writing notes on her hand during her Tea Party convention speech: “I didn’t really had a good answer, as so often — is me. But then somebody sent me the other day, Isaiah 49:16, and you need to go home and look it up. Before you look it up, I’ll tell you what it says though. It says, hey, if it was good enough for God, scribbling on the palm of his hand, it’s good enough for me, for us. He says, in that passage, ‘I wrote your name on the palm of my hand to remember you,’ and I’m like, ‘Okay, I’m in good company.'”

    “They are also building schools for the Afghan children so that there is hope and opportunity in our neighboring country of Afghanistan.” –Sarah Palin

    “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use.”
    ― Søren Kierkegaard

  14. You are so on the $$$. I went and reread on the defunct(yeah, I believe that too!)”Project for the New American Century” and then wiki “A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm” … how disturbing. The SAME guys since the 90s, do you think the possible cooperation between our U.S. & Iran is their way of dragging them in finally?

  15. Will Mr. Kris told please post a copy of his DD 214?
    Such an expert on the use of military force, this guy!

  16. This is something unexpected
    Glenn Beck Admits “Liberals, You Were Right” On Iraq
    From the beginning, most people on the left were against going into Iraq. I wasn’t…. Liberals, you were right. We shouldn’t have.”

    “Not one more life. Not one more life. Not one more dollar, not one more airplane, not one more bullet, not one more Marine, not one more arm or leg or eye. Not one more,” he said. “This must end now. Now can’t we come together on that?”
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/17/glenn-beck-iraq-war_n_5505424.html

  17. Bill Kristol has been wrong forever…he is a total idiot. Now, he says that we need to double down on the death of 4500 Americans killed in his insane war mongering.
    The truth: every despot we have overthrown has lead to total chaos…

  18. What is happening in Iraq is the latest incarnation of a religious war that has been going on since Mohammed died and Islam divided into two sects (Shiite and Sunni). This latest battle has been almost 100 years in the making, since Britain and France drew the arbitrary borders of Iraq and other countries in their quest to maintain colonial territories, giving no thought to what the residents wished. Should the United States continue this Western hubris and prolong what should be left to the people there to solve is to ensure the continuing anger and violence directed towards the West.

  19. I call him Bill Erroneous. Bill Erroneous Kristol is ALWAYS wrong and knows NOTHING. As does the GOP, Tea Party wing nuts and Palin lovers. Their brains are made of cement. They are pathetic. As for Dick Bold face Liar Cheney, I feel so sorry for the innocent heart that is keeping this monster alive. All the blood Cheney has on his hands, well, I’d want to stay alive as long as possible too. Judgment day for Dick Cheney will be horrible and worse if he keeps on defending his lies and blaming others for the atrocities he caused in Iraq…for the OIL.

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