Gun Nuts Threaten President Over Something He Hasn’t Even Done

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Look above at the mention of the president and an image of a firing gun from World Net Daily yesterday. Add to that the suggestive title: TRIGGER PULLED TO STOP EXECUTIVE ORDER ON GUNS ‘There’s only 1 way to hold Obama accountable’.

What does that suggest to you?

We haven’t forgotten Sarah Palin taking opponents into her sights right before Democratic Arizona congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords was shot. Giffords was on Palin’s hit list. Gun-owning conservatives have proven to be very suggestible.

Why the threat? What has Obama done now to warrant being assassinated by some gun-toting conservative lunatic?

Turns out to be something he hasn’t actually done.

The Second Amendment Foundation claims it worries that President Obama will announce an executive order “committing the United States to the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty” on Christmas Eve.

The treaty, claims World Net Daily, “requires nations to keep records tracking every transaction involving firearms.”

That’s not exactly what the treaty is about. According to the UN:

The landmark Arms Trade Treaty (ATT), regulating the international trade in conventional arms – from small arms to battle tanks, combat aircraft and warships – will enter into force on 24 December 2014.

Far from being a “small arms” treaty, Article 2 of the treaty specifies:

(a) Battle tanks;
(b) Armoured combat vehicles;
(c) Large-calibre artillery systems;
(d) Combat aircraft;
(e) Attack helicopters;
(f) Warships;
(g) Missiles and missile launchers; and
(h) Small arms and light weapons.

I know we have a well-armed citizenry, but battle tanks, combat aircraft and warships? Really? Is this something Americans need to worry about?

Not according to the UN. The ATT specifies as a principle,

Non-intervention in matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any State in accordance with Article 2 (7) of the Charter of the United Nations

And reaffirms,

[T]he sovereign right of any State to regulate and control conventional arms exclusively within its territory, pursuant to its own legal or constitutional system

For the record, Article 2(7) states:

Nothing contained in the present Charter shall authorize the United Nations to intervene in matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any state or shall require the Members to submit such matters to settlement under the present Charter.

But according to Alan Gottlieb of the Second Amendment Foundation, not only is this is a “small arms treaty,” but it is aimed at American gun owners:

The only way to do that is to set up a national database, and that is what the U.N. wants every country to set up and maintain. We know that’s been one of the objectives of this administration from Day 1 anyway, so under the color of the U.N., that’s what they’re going to try to do.

In fact, the ATT specifically does not include domestic gun sales.

Yet Gottlieb insists,

We knew from Day 1 the Obama administration wanted to push this treaty, but they didn’t want to get gun owners all up in arms before the election and mobilize the Republican base. Based on what he’s done with amnesty, we have reason to believe he’s doubling down on everything that he can’t get through Congress now, and he’s going to do it through executive orders or actions. It’s a case of dictator in chief.

The treaty goes into effect the day before Christmas:

So based on that, it gives him a window to do it now. Christmas Eve triggers the opportunity, in their eyes, where they could do this way below the radar. When everyone is looking for Santa Clause to arrive, they may end up with an anti-gun treaty instead.

Watch the Second Amendment Foundation’s over-the-top ad:

It even turns out what Gottlieb is suggesting is a lawsuit. But apparently, for the folks at WND, it is more titillating to seem to be suggesting shooting the president instead.

Gottlieb says,

We will educate the public, so people understand the threat that an Obama executive order poses to the Constitution. Nobody elected Barack Obama as emperor, but his actions lately suggests he believes otherwise. If he has forgotten there are three branches of government, we intend to refresh his memory.

And the Second Amendment Foundation is not alone in its opposition. It is joined by the National Association for Gun Rights, the International Association for the Protection of Civilian Arms Rights, the National Rifle Association (NRA), the National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF), and The Heritage Foundation.

You would not think these groups would be so opposed to, as the ATT states, “the need to prevent and eradicate the illicit trade in conventional arms and to prevent their diversion to the illicit market, or for unauthorized end use and end users, including in the commission of terrorist acts.”

Apparently their opposition to terrorism is only skin deep. We already know they oppose restrictions on domestic terrorism.

But no matter the level of their opposition, nothing – nothing – excuses the suggestion that the only way to stop the president from doing something you don’t want him to do, is to shoot him.

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79 Replies to “Gun Nuts Threaten President Over Something He Hasn’t Even Done”

  1. The NRA and similar fascist groups has been stirring this up for many years, claiming the UN wants to take over the USA and the big step is to ban guns, which they insist this treaty is all about…”secretly” of course. This goes along with the “Obama is a foreign agent” craziness. He “secretly” works for the UN “secret” agency that has planned to take over the US since the end of WWII when the UN began.

    The NRA and right wing talking heads have been using this scare tactic to rake in HUGE piles of cash from the scared and stupid ever since the 1950’s. This is how Ron Paul made his money, and this is how the righties keep their base enslaved -irrational fear of completely un-real events…commercial paranoia.

    I am a leftist/Labor democrat and a gun owner and I hate the NRA.

  2. This, together with the refusal of the mainstream press to carry the President’s speech, the plan to ban him from giving a State of the Union speech, and the murderousness being ginned up towards non-white people in general, points to a four-letter word that starts with a C.

    No, not that one. Coup.

  3. anyone else astonished at the double standards for the GOP?
    They are going crazy about the fact that he shows compassion to the families of immigrants and is not going to split them apart – they are ranting about this being a nation of laws and that is not the law etc.
    On the other side of the coin they are twisting themselves like pretzels to keep the report about unlawful torture methods of the Bush admin a secret!
    If the methods were lawful why be ashamed?
    The international community knows what we did, it is why we lost allies under Bush.

  4. You are right, reynardine.
    This nation’s Constitutional Foundations are under seige, and a coup is under way.

    Opening volley: Florida, Bush v Gore, Y2K
    Most Recent: Citizens United, Bundy Ranch, and Hobby Lobby .

    It is only a (short) matter of Time until the firestorm rages out of control.

    We are doomed.

  5. These gun nuts are mostly a bunch of domestic terrorists and seditionists. They should be dealt with accordingly, by being arrested, prosecuted, and locked up. Freedom of speech and second amendment rights do not extend to openly advocating for shooting our president. This should never be tolerated in our country.

  6. It could not be more obvious that this is a propaganda move. Even a person with a fifth grade reading level could understand that this treaty has nothing to do with guns owned within the United States or within any signing country.

    There is no accounting for the penis challenged morons that buy into this stuff put out by people who are just taking their money. I can’t put much blame on the groups that are pushing this propaganda because the people who follow them are beyond incredibly stupid. The groups are just doing what they do to make money for a few people. The American free market at work.

    You can bet that these groups understand that their readers will not read or do any research on this treaty on their own. Most of these people don’t even come close to having that capability

  7. Was at a family wedding in Ohio, and my father-in-law was telling us about the neighborhood he has lived in for 50 years. He was very happy to report that he now has “Americans” next door. The previous renters were Latino. So very sad.

  8. Astorix, I prefer to call them Whirled Nut Daily. Gun Nuts are simply not quite human! They are cocktail weenee dicked cowards who refuse to accept reality. I used to play with guns when I was a CHILD!!! As soon as I reached 10 years old I gave my six shooters and holster to a kid on my block.

  9. Jesus Christ almighty…create a problem that doesn’t exist out of whole cloth, blame Obama for it then start a panic.

  10. These are paranoid and delusional idiots. I hope everyone involved with advocating the assassination of the President is in jail.

  11. Shouldn’t the FBI be looking into this. There doesn’t seem to be a very good defense for this one. It’s pretty much advocating for the assassination of the President. There should be real jail time for this.

  12. Decades ago, the NRA was all about responsible gun ownership. Now they are about individuals amassing as many guns as possible to keep money flowing to the manufacturers. Wake up, ammosexuals, it’s just more corporate greed in another form.

  13. I see the article says Gun owners (Well, the article called them “gun nuts”) say it is necessary to kill the president—but I saw nothing in the attributing to anyone a direct threat.

    Also, out of curiosity, do the readers here know that our founders illegally overthrew the government that was over them?

    If you celebrate the 4th of July but believe there could never be just cause to repeat that, then you would be a hypocrite.

    Anyone understand what this means?

    “…That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,…Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes…But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government…”

    Never legal, but sometimes morally correct–an…

  14. Who advocated it? Got names, sources?

    Were the founders ok to overthrow their own government? The crown certainly considered them traitors. Paul Revere’s primary mission the night of his ride was to warn Sam Adams and another that they were to be arrested for treason or assassinated.

    And our founders reacted violently to much less an assualt on the public liberty than what this nation has patiently taken in the last 120 years..MUCH, MUCH less.

    SamAdams1776 III Oath keeper
    Molon Labe
    No Fort Sumters
    Qui tacet consentit
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
    Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges.
    Idque apud imperitos humanitas vocabatur, cum pars servitutis esset.

  15. I know being homeschooled and all but what does the pic on that rag suggest to you? A gun being fired and here is only one way to stop the President. Did you wake up and just decided to be stupid or is it a pre existing condition?

  16. They’ve been doing that since he got into office! Remember Obama came to take their guns away so NRA could make guns more accessible and we let them have their way! They make stuff up to rile up the white gun nut base who then shoot people in mass..in theaters…schools..homes…but we should be afraid of those huge black scary guys! White men can have high powered artillery rifles and even a stand off and stop citizens of Nevada and scare them..where was the military police then?Oh yes..they were white! They can carry guns and they shoot and kill lots of people at once….and people are not to be afraid because their white with a gun! See? You only need worry about young black kids or men who might hurt you with NO GUN!

  17. 1. I am older than the homeschooling era
    2. I am a military officer my education is in engineering and physics
    3. IF it means using force (something the founders did against their legitimate authority–so what is YOUR education, if you didn’t know that?), that does not mean assassination–perhaps they are implying using force to repeat what the founders did–I am not against that , but would like first to try an article 5 convention to remove the power usurped by all 3 branches of the Federal government and restore it back to the states.

    I would say, the current political conflict (arguably a VERY strong conflict) is ultimately between those whose political philosophy is that of Locke, against those of Hobbes and Marx

    I am a Lockean.

    SamAdams1776 III Oath keeper
    Molon Labe
    No Fort Sumters
    Qui tacet consentit
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
    Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges.
    Idque apud imperitos humanitas vocabatur, cum pars servitutis esset.

  18. You do know that they wrote the Constitution so that the power lies with the Federal Government. That’s why they got rid of the articles of Confederation. It is your type that is a threat to our liberty

  19. We are a democracy now, Sam. We overthrew a non-representative monarchy back in your day. Your are paranoid about imaginary issues that don’t exist. We vote our leaders in or out. We don’t do it with guns. Maybe you should realize we are in the 21st century, not the 18th anymore.

  20. As a gun-owning leftist, I can see your paranoia has overcome your ability to reason, like all the other moron-rubes…

  21. When you have an activist president like Obama who has made his ideology known, why are the realists suddenly labelled as “nuts” and “fascists”? I’d say they are living in the real world and preparing for the next assault on rights that will inevitably come from this regime.

  22. Oath keeper. That pretty much sums up why you may have education and still dont have a brain.

    A picture of a gun, the caption this is how to control Obama is not a metaphor. The metaphor is simply your need to protect your guns in all aspects. Including playing dumb

  23. It seems to me I recall something about “No taxation without representation” being on of the primary reasons for revolt. Now the teabaggers simply want “No taxation” period.

    Bastardizing the founders reasons for revolution to suit one’s own desires is simply a childlike temper tantrum.

  24. The right wing Obama haters are too busy in their folks’ attic or basement texting, sexting and yakking to be aware of real news..so much for the sea of digital dummies out there. Becoming dumber and fatter by the month. I’m a third generation Calif. liberal Democrat.

  25. Let me get this straight:

    White guys with guns are patriots and defenders of the oath.

    Black guys with guns are thugs and are to be mowed down.

    Why bring Leonidas “Molon labe” here? entirely different situation, Nobody is trying to get anyone’s gun away, instead somebody is trying to sell more guns.

  26. BS.
    We’re not doomed. We’re winning.
    THEY are doomed
    Euro-Jesus is doomed.
    Wall St. is doomed.
    Because there are more of us than there are of them.

  27. In April 2013, Mother Jones reported that “Between September 11, 2001, and the end of 2012, there were no successful bomb plots by jihadist terrorists in the United States. Jihadists killed 17 people … in four separate incidents during this time, according to data collected by journalist Peter Bergen and the New America Foundation. All four of these incidents involved guns, including Nidal Hassan’s shooting rampage at Fort Hood, which killed 13 people. In contrast, right-wing extremists killed 29 people during those 11 years.”
    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/04/charts-domestic-terrorism-jihadist-boston-tsarnaev
    What will it take for the government and the media to recognize that threats and attacks by mostly white disgruntled well-armed conservatives are acts of terrorism?

  28. Don’t worry Rick, I am very sure the FBI has taken them under control. WE(the people) do not hear of all the attacks against the Pres and there have been many. More against this Pres then any other. Which should cause us all, to hang our heads in shame, at what our country, has become. What has been allowed, by the vote of people who do not read or listen to anything but Fox news and the like. Morally incompetent and unable to reason.

  29. Yes, well, the Constitution these days is pretty much toilet paper–individual rights that are inalienable are pretty alienable these days–and natural, pre-existing rights (the ones that are inalienable) are ignored..and WHY? Because the founders assumed that we have them because they come “from nature and nature’s God,” but when people and the courts support the view that there is no God, well, then there can be no natural rights–and instead we have only what government says we have and we therefore end up abandoning Locke for Hobbes.

    Did you understand all that?

    Of course, I believe in God, natural, pre-existing & inalienable rights, which includes the right to defend ones life, liberty and property–EVEN from GOVERNMENT, which is how we ended up with the Revolution

    SamAdams1776 III Oath keeper
    Molon Labe
    No Fort Sumters
    Qui tacet consentit
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
    Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges.
    Idque apud imperitos humanitas vocabatur, cum p…

  30. You do it with guns when the “vote,” makes no changes and when the three branches work to destroy rights (and not only the Second Amendment right–which in case you don’t know is protected, not granted by it–the right is pre-existing and a natural one)

    The Bill of Rights grants NO rights; it restricts government–its own preamble makes that perfectly clear.

    Confiscating property (including money and therefore time and giving it to others to enjoy or benefit from; telling me I MUST to participate in certain economic functions, or that I cannot on others, makes me a slave and makes such a government WORTHY of being overthrown.

    SamAdams1776 III Oath keeper
    Molon Labe
    No Fort Sumters
    Qui tacet consentit
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
    Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges.
    Idque apud imperitos humanitas vocabatur, cum pars servitutis esset.

  31. Wow!!! Where was this love of the Constitution when your buddy Bush who did commit war crimes and ran roughshod over the Constitution during the 2000’s?
    The Oath Keepers were founded on March 2009
    President Obama took the oath in Jan 2009
    Coincidence? I think not . You just mad because a BLACKMAN WAS ELECTED AND NOT ONE OF YOU POINTY HEADED ASSHOLES CAN POINT TO ANYTHING THAT OBAMA BROKE ANY CONSTITUTIONAL LAW

  32. No, they did NOT write the Constitution so that the powers lie with the Federal Government. Only certain enumerated powers are reserved to the Federal Government; all other powers NOT mentioned or denied to the states or people reside there (10th Amendment). If a power is not enumerated, the Federal government by default is denied that power. So, the constitution does not tell the Feds what they CAN’T do; it tells them what they are ALLOWED to do. For the states, it is the reverse.

    The Supremacy clause:
    “This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.”

    One little part they forget: “which shall be made in Pursuance thereof;”

    If not “made in Pursuance thereof,” it …

  33. Opening volley was Reagan making common cause with Iranians to defeat Carter.

    Traitorous action I think, no?

  34. John, provide facts, please. This is the real world here, not Fox News. It takes more than somebody saying something to make it true.

  35. Wrong. Most of the founder were very much into a centralized government that oversaw the states. They knew the states would be very easily corruptable little nations. Read up on each founder

  36. Oh flying spaghetti monster you really don’t know what the eff you are talking about!!!
    The Supremacy clause: Means that Federal law is the law of the land not states rights or all that BOVINE EXCREMENT they feed you about states rights. See what you did? You picked the one thing in the Constitution that shoots down your argument on states rights. You can make this shit up! LMBAO

  37. I knew you were an atheist– but thanks for the clear demonstration. The short answer is that given that there is a creator God, then everything is dependent upon him–the very natural laws of the universe work as they do because He SAYS so. Our rights come from him. No God, then it is always some form of tyranny. And we certainly are acting like it. Gentleman God is, he lets us act and hang ourselves. I might rebel against a corrupt government–given enough of us, we could even win, but not number could win against the Supreme Being. To him I bend on my knee willingly.

    For the long answer, I only WISH I had the space here to give an Exegesis on Biblical theological texts and tie it to the Lockean philosophy of Natural rights (something you also deny and as an atheist, to be expected,

    Try RC Sproul or his mentor, or CS Lewis (Mere Christianity)if you are interested in understanding God and the relationship to man. A rhetorical statement, really as I know full well you won’t. ‘…

  38. Which god? There are thousands. No rights come from any god. If they did, man couldnt take them away. Stop being such a joke. gods exist only in mens minds

    Tired of your stupidity, move along

  39. Sam Adams..is your God whispering in your ear?

    Don’t hide behind your so called God..don’t even think you could speak for him if he existed..If you think you are speaking for him, you have a profoundly high opinion of yourself.

    Don’t hide behind religion or God, you are using it as a scapegoat.

  40. These same False Patriots have no problem placing us in cages calling them “Free Speech Zones” and claiming they are not violating our first amendment rights.
    Using their logic let us create “Free Fire Zones” where these lunatics can go and play shoot ’em up among themselves.This way they do each other in and we don’t have to see or hear from them happily ever after.

  41. Lol!! Sam Adams..please..don’t even try to bring CS Lewis into your delusional rants!

    Your rants should not even be in the same sentence as CS Lewis!

  42. “Giffords was on Palin’s hit list. Gun-owning conservatives have proven to be very suggestible.”

    You do realize that the lunatic who shot Giffords was a registered Independent, right? Not the same as a Republican. He’d also stopped watching TV, participating in politics, and that prior to 2007, his leaning has been described as very left-wing, quite liberal, and radical.

    Also, if Arizona had been submitting mental health records to the NICS, as has been required by law since the VT shooting, he would not have passed a background check.

  43. Nothing he said even hinted at “shooting the President” and if you recall, Giffords was shot by a Left Wing Nut.

  44. They are worried they might not be able to get great weapons from Germany or AK-47s from third-world countries. Besides, the Second-Amendment-is-the-Whole-Constitution nuts have dreams of owning their own battle tank.
    [WINK]

  45. Mr. SamuelAdams1776..face/palm sigh..YOU are NOT!! older than home schooling Sparky!! “Home Schooling” has been going on since the first cave parents taught their off spring! I think you are 3lbs. in a 1lb. bag sir. Your list of crap at the bottom of your comments I know are meant to impress but they are non-sequitur and are a feeble attempt at relevance.

  46. I think that our “stature” currently in the world community is much worse now than when Bush took office. So, maybe some facts should be factored into your comment.

  47. CA Liberal, so you like registration of ammo, bullet buttons, 10 round mags, only having access to 1/3 the gun choice as the rest of the US.

  48. Palin is a complete idiot. This 3-time illegitimate grandma is a phony and nothing more than a big ugly mouthpiece for the gop’s dirty old man caucus. Pointless as a human. she should never be compared to intelligent, honorable, hardworking, diligent, inspirational Gabby Giffords.

  49. Dear Mr. Gunnut Sam: I understand you’re scared but you are also dellusional. You are against background checks because with your mental state you wouldnt pass, and govt might just take your gun based on your breed of crazy.

    The NRA is counting on making money off of wimps with guns, Scare them into sending us money we reuse to keep scaring wimpy men.

  50. You are oblivious to what is right in front of you. A picture of Obama, a firing weapon and the caption reading “only one way…”.

    How much more blatant can the message be?

  51. These guys live in a storybook world where they’re always the heroes no matter what and deny that they’re intolerant and fearful of what’s different that they may end up killing some innocent guy. which some have, while projecting at the other side and saying things like Obama is trying to start a race war, because it’s much easier then facing reality for them.

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